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Innocell 3500mAh from Seidio

Aside from this battery and cover completely destroying the sleekness of the Incredible... Is anyone ordering it?
I'm thinking about it, but then again I don't care for the brick look n' feel on a phone.

Nope
Looks horrid.
I own every OTHER battery made for the Incredible (nice strategy ... keep releasing larger and larger). The 1750mah did not do much for me, but the 2150mah is wonderful (especially if you follow the PROPER charging method of: [1] charge with power on, [2] when orange goes to green choose power off, [3] wait for orange to go green again).

is that battery out already? I thought that it wasn't coming out for a while so I ordered the 2150

jdmba said:
Looks horrid.
I own every OTHER battery made for the Incredible (nice strategy ... keep releasing larger and larger). The 1750mah did not do much for me, but the 2150mah is wonderful (especially if you follow the PROPER charging method of: [1] charge with power on, [2] when orange goes to green choose power off, [3] wait for orange to go green again).
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I actually used this charge method on my 1500 ma battery, and it lasts much longer. Moderate usage and I am still at 70% at 5pm in the day. Unplugged it about 7am.

mycomputerisjunk said:
I actually used this charge method on my 1500 ma battery, and it lasts much longer. Moderate usage and I am still at 70% at 5pm in the day. Unplugged it about 7am.
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Quick question. What if you just turned it off to charge it to begin with? Not taking into account if someone uses it as an alarm clock or anything. Just say I turned it off right before I went to sleep.

Nope
the337 said:
Quick question. What if you just turned it off to charge it to begin with? Not taking into account if someone uses it as an alarm clock or anything. Just say I turned it off right before I went to sleep.
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You are free to mess around as you see fit; but the steps are as outlined. Charge with the power on; wait till green; choose power off; wait till green; unplug and enjoy much longer battery life.

Let's try this again. 3500 Innocell
Got 2 of the 3500's and turned back in the 2150 to Verizon. Got the Charger that allows the phone and the spare 3500 to be charged simultaneously. 1st Battery was put in after the light just turned green from charging. This lasted about 36 hours before the message about needing to be put on the charger came back on. By this time the 2nd battery had been charging for about 15+ hours. Plopped it in and as of right now. The battery usage is reporting 48:21:51 Up time Awake time is 8:03:49 and there is 4 segments left of the 10 showing for the remaining battery. This is the kind of performance I am expecting from a battery. I will later perform a hard test on the battery. I will do an all movie time running of the battery to see how long it can last when the screen is on the full time running Movies.

3500 Mah performance Awesome!
Completed the testing of the 3500 Mah down to 4% of remaining power Watched 4 full length movies each over 2 hours. People who take long flights Get ready for fun. Phone at 4% remaining = 1 bar of 10 on battery screen.
Uptime 26 hours 45 min.
Awake time 13 hours 18 min Based on this a single battery would allow only 1 battery to be used for an international flight from Chicago to Hong Kong and still have plenty of battery left to get to a charger. The bad part is this Verizon phone will not work in HK or China. Different frequency from what I have been reading.
Cell Standby 23%
Android System 21%
Display 17%
Phone Idle 12%
Bluetooth 11%
Wi-Fi 10%
Mediaserver 4%
Voice Calls 2%
Rating "Best Battery for the HTC Incredible Power User" A+

Poor Battery Performance

I have had my Galaxy S for a bit over a week now and am pretty disappointed with the battery performance. Most days I take my battery off the charger at 7am and it reaches 15% low battery warning by 1-2pm. I do spend a fair amount of time reading XDA and listening to music. I'm currently running Stock JM1 firmware with no lagfixes.
Here's a list of my apps that I have installed:
http://www.appbrain.com/user/Lokhor/apps-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s
I am running JuiceDefender which I thought would make a big difference and does not. I have also set Tasker to change the Brightness level to 20 (below the safety threshold) when the battery reaches 50% or below, otherwise the brightness is at the minimum (30%).
I have heard that you need to condition the battery so I have been trying to do this but it doesn't seem to have had much effect. Today I used my phone only casually and it's currently at 22% after 12.5 hours. The battery use details show the following:
Display at 56% being on for 2h22m and 13s.
Cell Standby 18% Time on 9h21m, time without signal 13%
Phone Idle 7% Time on 7h33m
Android System 5% CPU usage 23m39s CPU foreground 24s
Android OS 3% CPU Usage 13m 27s
Is this normal? Is there anything I'm doing wrong?
Please help

I don't know what others are telling you about conditioning a LiIon battery but you don't have to. LiIon batteries don't suffer from what NiCad do. Some do suggest wearing the battery down to nil and then charging it up again. However, this is pretty bad for the battery and should not be done more than once every 30 cycles. With every LiIon battery I've ever owned I've either trickle charged it or charged it when it wasn't too low and they've all lasted over 3 years. I've never conditioned one.
Anyway, my advice to you is to see how long your battery lasts in standby. Mine could probably last 3 days or more if I don't bother it too much (with sync, wifi and all that good stuff). I find the worst contender for battery drain is the display. The only problem I see with your stats there is that I've played Asphalt5 for around an hour and a half which is quite heavy on juice and it only drains roughly 10%-15%. Then again you're browsing the web so maybe probably worse.

Oh, and when charging your phone, don't use the USB hooked up to a computer as it doesn't stop charging when it's full. Use the wall charger to charge.

no need to worry more
just get this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=733705
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I have had my Galaxy S for a bit over a week now and am pretty disappointed with the battery performance. Most days I take my battery off the charger at 7am and it reaches 15% low battery warning by 1-2pm. I do spend a fair amount of time reading XDA and listening to music. I'm currently running Stock JM1 firmware with no lagfixes.
Here's a list of my apps that I have installed:
http://www.appbrain.com/user/Lokhor/apps-on-the-samsung-galaxy-s
I am running JuiceDefender which I thought would make a big difference and does not. I have also set Tasker to change the Brightness level to 20 (below the safety threshold) when the battery reaches 50% or below, otherwise the brightness is at the minimum (30%).
I have heard that you need to condition the battery so I have been trying to do this but it doesn't seem to have had much effect. Today I used my phone only casually and it's currently at 22% after 12.5 hours. The battery use details show the following:
Display at 56% being on for 2h22m and 13s.
Cell Standby 18% Time on 9h21m, time without signal 13%
Phone Idle 7% Time on 7h33m
Android System 5% CPU usage 23m39s CPU foreground 24s
Android OS 3% CPU Usage 13m 27s
Is this normal? Is there anything I'm doing wrong?
Please help
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I found that charging it whenever it was convenient instead of when it was low would result in a charge that lasted ~24 hours.
I've noticed significant increase in battery life since I started waiting for the 15% charge warning, plugging it in till it was full and then unplugging it. I get 2-3 days of use this way.
I also set my email to only sync between 6 AM and 11 PM. I believe this helps a lot as well.

since we are about this topic, check this out
How to spot fake battery vs. OEM battery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7953322

so if I'm listening to music during the day at work should I have my phone plugged into the wall charger or just let the battery run down?
Last night I took the charger off at midnight when it was full and when I woke up it had only dropped 5%. After reading my emails quickly it was at 93%.

it works fine either way
read this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=769208

I find leaving the brightness on automatic uses up loads of battery. Setting it to lowest seems to make the phone last 24hrs+
I also found that having beautiful widgets clock/weather installed used up a lot of battery for some reason.

I don't use weather because it has to sync every so often to update it which to me is a waste...I'll just look outside. I also leave brightness on the lowest setting wherever I am as the screen is already very bright (why waste battery?).

My experiences with my SGS have taught me to be conservative with its battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, you eat power like crazy. The best bet is to just top her off whenever the need arises. Personally, I have found that I'm fine just topping her off in the car when I'm driving, so that I start my work day at high 90's, and especially once I've got my morning browsing out of the way, I don't eat a big chunk of battery at any other time.
But yes, if you find you are running low, you can happily just take a half hour to charge from a USB port to give you an extra boost. Alternatively, spare batteries and so forth do the same thing, although it can be annoying if you don't have a charger that will do the phone and a spare battery at once.

im experimenting with apndroid now to turn of 3g then i dont specifacly need it. It comes with an on/off widget. Looks promising so far. 40% at 2300 hour and then i have used wifi a bit, played angry birds and talked for about 2 hours in total.

[Q] 4 hour battery life on heavy non gaming usage

i am getting 4 hours tops of batterylife on my z1
i have maximum brightness auto turned off i have wifi and bluetooth off
i have a live wallpaper
i have skype steam running in the back
it takes 2 hours for it to drop to 50 and 4 hours to 0 from full charge on pretty much full on screen time
is this normal even on that kind of heavy usage

I would recommend using wakelock detector to see what's really soaking up your battery. It's a free application and it's pretty self explanatory. Charge up your phone and use it heavily again and report back to us with your findings through wake lock detector.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda app-developers app

Have push mail on ? My phone was empty very quick before the update .257 but now its much better.
I think if you mean with 4 hours onscreen it is normal otherwise it is not.
Use wakelock detector already mentioned

4 hours on screen time with full brightness sounds reasonable. I can play heavy games for about 3,5 to 4 hours with medium display brightness.
Always keep in mind that the display is the biggest power consumer in modern Smartphones.

OfficerTux said:
4 hours on screen time with full brightness sounds reasonable. I can play heavy games for about 3,5 to 4 hours with medium display brightness.
Always keep in mind that the display is the biggest power consumer in modern Smartphones.
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so the battery really is that bad?
using stamina it drops 20 or so % during the night

Actually the battery with its 3000 mAh is gigantic. And I think 4 Hours of heavy usage with full brightness is ok.
20% over night with STAMINA mode is too much though.

OfficerTux said:
Actually the battery with its 3000 mAh is gigantic. And I think 4 Hours of heavy usage with full brightness is ok.
20% over night with STAMINA mode is too much though.
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i have steam and skype whitlisted in stamina
really dissapointed in the battery life then
i guess theres no such thing as a full day of usage then
is there any smartphone that can handle that?

Do you actively use your phone all day (screen on all the time)?
With medium usage (WhatsApp, Surfing, Some calls) I can go for at least one, maybe two days.

I slept for 10 hours and my battery drained 9% with wifi and GSM on from full charge. your using the stock charger right? charging faster then recommended will reduce the life of the battery and can cause this kind of issue, but the phone is so new i wouldn't expect that to be the cause. I know the stock charger 1.5A. With a 2A charger it is likely the phone will charge at 2A.
Its probably a software related issue your having, but 20% overnight seems like a lot..

crusnikmachine said:
I slept for 10 hours and my battery drained 9% with wifi and GSM on from full charge. your using the stock charger right? charging faster then recommended will reduce the life of the battery and can cause this kind of issue, but the phone is so new i wouldn't expect that to be the cause. I know the stock charger 1.5A. With a 2A charger it is likely the phone will charge at 2A.
Its probably a software related issue your having, but 20% overnight seems like a lot..
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i use the dock charger

zzcool said:
i use the dock charger
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I would something is hitting your phone for wakelocks. 20% over night is a bit high. I know google currents is a know offender so uncheck that if you have it syncing. Try turning off google location access. Turn off gps and nfc. Using you phone at max brightness will always be very draining, leave on on auto unless your outside in daylight or in the car. Facebook is also bad for wakelocks. Any app that is polling for updates will be hard on battery. My experience has been a much improved battery life over my previous devices. On an average work day I leave at 8 and get home at 430, and I usually have 70-75 % by bedtime usually around 30%. I leave most my apps syncing all the time as well. I know the phone is new to you so I would say you might be playing with it more than you normally would.

zzcool said:
i have steam and skype whitlisted in stamina
really dissapointed in the battery life then
i guess theres no such thing as a full day of usage then
is there any smartphone that can handle that?
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I suspect that steam / skype will be preventing the phone from ever going to sleep.
I would suggest capping the max frequency of the cpu to quite slow or setting the governer to a conservative level (an app could be forcing the cpu to stay at a high frequency most of the time which will just drain the battery in no time)
However this usually requires a custom kernal or at least root which isn't very well developed on the Z1 yet.
If you can run a wakelock program that also logs the time spent at each cpu speed ... that would help people help you ...
As for any phone being able to handle it, unlikely the battery is relatively large but so is the screen, most phablets have only a fractionally bigger battery.
Only a full blown tablet will get you a much bigger battery that might be able to last you twice as long.
I typically go 3-4 days between charges on the .257 firmware without stamina mode and paired to a smartwatch 2.
I used to get 3 days on the 534 firmware with stamina mode! (i work in an area of very weak signal so i get 25% no signal time over a battery charge)

Inaccurate battery %??

After charging my battery fully to 100%, I unplug it from the charger and without even turning the screen on, the battery drains to 92% within one hour. I check the battery stats and there are maybe only a couple wakes during this time.
Sometimes, the battery shows a certain percentage longer than others. Example, my phone will be on 65% longer than it would be on 60%.
Battery still gives me a solid 2 days usage with about 3+ hours screen on time. The service menu also says that the battery is good.
Is there a way to get the battery reading to show more accurately?
Thanks,

Hope I could Help You
For your battery problem, I guess you could try calibrating it. And also try to install "Greenify" along with "Clean Master or 360 Security" and try to close all running apps before turning off the screen. I also turn on Stamina Mode when the battery is at 100%, in an attempt to further save battery life. And the result has been kinda meh, but well, battery drains about 1% per hour. It lasts about a day and half with light usage. In my case, light usage being, browsing, youtube videos for about 2 hours, listening to music, social networking and taking some pictures
Squatrack Curler said:
After charging my battery fully to 100%, I unplug it from the charger and without even turning the screen on, the battery drains to 92% within one hour. I check the battery stats and there are maybe only a couple wakes during this time.
Sometimes, the battery shows a certain percentage longer than others. Example, my phone will be on 65% longer than it would be on 60%.
Battery still gives me a solid 2 days usage with about 3+ hours screen on time. The service menu also says that the battery is good.
Is there a way to get the battery reading to show more accurately?
Thanks,
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jeseunpark said:
For your battery problem, I guess you could try calibrating it. And also try to install "Greenify" along with "Clean Master or 360 Security" and try to close all running apps before turning off the screen. I also turn on Stamina Mode when the battery is at 100%, in an attempt to further save battery life. And the result has been kinda meh, but well, battery drains about 1% per hour. It lasts about a day and half with light usage. In my case, light usage being, browsing, youtube videos for about 2 hours, listening to music, social networking and taking some pictures
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Hey,
im using greenify (my phone is rooted). Battery is quite good for me though. I get about 3 days with light usage. I start charging my phone again when the battery gets to anywhere between 10-20%.
I read that maybe its better not to let it get so low?
I have no wake locks either.

Umm.. IMO, 10-20% is okay. I usually charge the phone when the battery gets around 5%. I read somewhere that charging battery too early can affect the battery's overall standby time (reducing it). It's better not to let the battery reach 0% though.
I had that happen with my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 earlier. I once let the battery dip all the way to 0% many times. After a few charge cycles, I found out that the battery was dead and wouldn't charge at all so I ended up buying a new battery :-/
Umm.. Coming back to our Z1's, could you try putting the phone in stamina mode everytime the phone is kept on standby mode? This boosted my battery life a lot I even put my phone on stamina mode throughout the whole night yesterday to test the battery life again, and when I switched on in the morning, I saw that the battery had dipped by just 2% (standby time of 7 hours). I'm really confused how your battery drops so fast, 100% to 92%.
Could you try calibrating the battery and then putting it in Stamina Mode while on Stanby and tell me the results? I hope I could help :fingers-crossed:
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Hey,
im using greenify (my phone is rooted). Battery is quite good for me though. I get about 3 days with light usage. I start charging my phone again when the battery gets to anywhere between 10-20%.
I read that maybe its better not to let it get so low?
I have no wake locks either.
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jeseunpark said:
Umm.. IMO, 10-20% is okay. I usually charge the phone when the battery gets around 5%. I read somewhere that charging battery too early can affect the battery's overall standby time (reducing it). It's better not to let the battery reach 0% though.
I had that happen with my Samsung Galaxy Note 2 earlier. I once let the battery dip all the way to 0% many times. After a few charge cycles, I found out that the battery was dead and wouldn't charge at all so I ended up buying a new battery :-/
Umm.. Coming back to our Z1's, could you try putting the phone in stamina mode everytime the phone is kept on standby mode? This boosted my battery life a lot I even put my phone on stamina mode throughout the whole night yesterday to test the battery life again, and when I switched on in the morning, I saw that the battery had dipped by just 2% (standby time of 7 hours). I'm really confused how your battery drops so fast, 100% to 92%.
Could you try calibrating the battery and then putting it in Stamina Mode while on Stanby and tell me the results? I hope I could help :fingers-crossed:
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Yeah i could try to calibrate it. Im a little confused on what you do to calibrate the battery (ive read way to many opinions on this). Can you please tell me the steps.

Squatrack Curler said:
Hey,
im using greenify (my phone is rooted). Battery is quite good for me though. I get about 3 days with light usage. I start charging my phone again when the battery gets to anywhere between 10-20%.
I read that maybe its better not to let it get so low?
I have no wake locks either.
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Yeah i could try to calibrate it. Im a little confused on what you do to calibrate the battery (ive read way to many opinions on this). Can you please tell me the steps.
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I used this to help me - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024867

battery dead or?

Well bought this phone back in mid 2017,and because of sickness I haven't used it that much at all.
I charged the battery 11 times so far and was keeping the phone in a desk drawer.
A month ago I noticed that the phone won't turn on,so I plug the charger on and charged the battery to 100 %.
I supposed that the phone was on,I didn't turn it off,and the battery left to 0% and shutdown the phone.
I really can't say how long it was on 0% (suppose like maybe a month).
Today I noticed very bad battery results.
Batterylife with GSam Battery Monitor is around 12 h only.
Was the "bolded text" the reason that battery died or the reason was not using the phone for 2 years?
Is there a software to check the damage of the battery?
I installed accubattery pro but for some reason doesn't offer me Health status of battery.

paparazzo79 said:
Well bought this phone back in mid 2017,and because of sickness I haven't used it that much at all.
I charged the battery 11 times so far and was keeping the phone in a desk drawer.
A month ago I noticed that the phone won't turn on,so I plug the charger on and charged the battery to 100 %.
I supposed that the phone was on,I didn't turn it off,and the battery left to 0% and shutdown the phone.
I really can't say how long it was on 0% (suppose like maybe a month).
Today I noticed very bad battery results.
Batterylife with GSam Battery Monitor is around 12 h only.
Was the "bolded text" the reason that battery died or the reason was not using the phone for 2 years?
Is there a software to check the damage of the battery?
I installed accubattery pro but for some reason doesn't offer me Health status of battery.
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I would give the battery a few full cycles to see it that sorts it or yes, the battery it would seem is on its last legs. I don't know what app to recommend as an alternative though. (My battery is 23 months old and still performs as it did when I brought the phone)

I would drain it to 5% (maybe 1%) then charge it to 100% (without using phone while charging) a few times.
Then see how it goes. Afterwards charge phone from 20% or 15%.

Ok.I will charge it to 100% and report you with results with duration time on battery and you tell me how bad is it

GSam Monitor:
Battery Life: 3d 19.9h (5h 26m active)
Screen On:3h 40m (1h 17m Max)
In Android: battery estimated battery life: 2d 1h