I wonder how much space is actually available on a 32gb version after 5.0 is factored in? Anyone with one in hand able to answer?
If I remember correctly Total Usable Storage on the device is 25/26GB (Total Storage available to user and not used up by OS/ART). Not all that bad honestly.
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Here's the scoop, I have a rooted N1 and flashed, Froyo Vanilla AOSP 2.2 for N1, which I picked up from ChrisSoyars Twitter feed. It works wonderful, but my available storage is 152MB....is this correct?? When I bought the phone I had 181MB of available storage or something close to that. I don't have any apps installed and that is why I find this kinda odd>>>>>>I just saw that FB, Google Voice, Twitter and Google Goggles are installed, but this still doesn't look right.
So, though the N1 claims it has 512MB storage we can only use 200MB of it???
And why do I have less now than before??
Can anyone help clear this up for me....
Thank you.
You seem to be getting your jargon confused.
bane126 said:
So, though the N1 claims it has 512MB storage we can only use 200MB of it???
And why do I have less now than before??
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Are you talking about memory or storage? The N1 shipped with 512MB of memory, of which only about 256MB was accessible. With the Froyo update you will have access to all of your 512MB of memory finally.
The 200MB you're talking about seems to be the internal storage. That will be different after updating because different OS images are different sizes. Also your internal space will vary with the size of various application caches. Nothing to worry about.
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You seem to be getting your jargon confused.
Are you talking about memory or storage? The N1 shipped with 512MB of memory, of which only about 256MB was accessible. With the Froyo update you will have access to all of your 512MB of memory finally.
The 200MB you're talking about seems to be the internal storage. That will be different after updating because different OS images are different sizes. Also your internal space will vary with the size of various application caches. Nothing to worry about.
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You actually have your jargon confused
N1 shipped with 512mb RAM and 512mb ROM
The 512mb RAM is not what hes talking about. There is 512mb of storage but only some of that is available to install apps with
storage requires a type of memory. flash memory. -_-
RAM = memory
Flash = memory
As for the question, the 512mb storage is split for system files and applications. you only have that much space for applications
Yeah, flash is technically a type of memory but it's not a good idea to call it just memory without elaboration because by default "memory" refers to volatile memory.
Okay, so now that I am on Froyo I should have 512MB of memory aKa RAM available as opposed to the 256MB of RAM that Eclair was allowed to use?? And the reason I have 152MB of internal storage is because of the OS and the applications are eating into the 512MB of internal storage the phone shipped with??
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Yeah, flash is technically a type of memory but it's not a good idea to call it just memory without elaboration because by default "memory" refers to volatile memory.
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it does not default to volatile memory. its all a matter of context. his context clearly indicated that he was referring to his onboard storage lol
its just that the general population doesnt care to make a distinction haha
bane126 said:
Okay, so now that I am on Froyo I should have 512MB of memory aKa RAM available as opposed to the 256MB of RAM that Eclair was allowed to use?? And the reason I have 152MB of internal storage is because of the OS and the applications are eating into the 512MB of internal storage the phone shipped with??
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yes your exactly right. the storage is split up into chunks. only one piece is dedicated to apps
Thank you for clearing this up.
It seems that there's 1gb for apps.
A question for someone smarter than me: Can/will this ever be able to be increased?? There's all this space available on the internal storage and it seems stupid not to be able to use it....
I am not sure where to find the full 16GB of storage available on the Vivid. When I look at the folder structure I see an sdcard and sdcard2. Sdcard seems to be internal storae and has 8GB available. Sdcard2 is my external SD card. Does anyone knbow where the orthe 8GB of space is? Maybe I am lookin at this wrong and missing something obvious.
I am going to assume you installed apps already? Those will take up part on the phones internal storage. If you have loaded music and videos it is quite possible you loaded them onto the internal storage as well. Also you will never see a Full 16gb worth of storage availability because if I recall correctly it shares some of that storage for the OS.
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I am not sure where to find the full 16GB of storage available on the Vivid. When I look at the folder structure I see an sdcard and sdcard2. Sdcard seems to be internal storae and has 8GB available. Sdcard2 is my external SD card. Does anyone knbow where the orthe 8GB of space is? Maybe I am lookin at this wrong and missing something obvious.
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The phone is using 4gb for apps and 8gb for sd card storage. Obviously you know that we won't get the whole 16gb to use.
Here is a screenshot for the apps:
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OTB I was showing 9GB Phone memory, 4GB Internal storage and 3.15GB left on my 32GB microSD card.
Hmm now that I actually went back and looked I do see what you mean. When connected to PC the available storage is 8.83 GB. What you need to remember is that Sense takes up an extraordinarily large amount of space compared to say Stock Android or pretty much any other version of Android out there. So my guess is once we see a CM7 or an Optimized Sense Rom we won't be able to access more than what we have right now. Kinda does throw you for a loop though when they "Say" 16GB worth of Internal Storage and Don't include an SD Card to compensate for the "Lie".
SGS2 has 16GB and you get 11.3GB. Not to mention a reset doesnt wipe the 11.3GB while the Vivid does wipe its 8.83GB.
So I am not sure that Sense takes up that much more space than touch wiz.
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Thanks for the responses guys. I realized after I posted that I hadn't even looked at the data partition. I expected a certain amount of spece to be eaten up by the OS but not 8GB. It makes much mor sense now.
The internal space is actually partitioned into three: 3GB for apps, 8GB as "sdcard", and the remaining 4GB are a system partition.
I currently have the HTC Sensation 4G (TMOUS). It has 1GB of internal storage that was just for Apps and the OS, IE it was not user accessible (unless you had root). Then you had your MicroSD for the usual user and app data storage stuff.
From what I have read there are not two internal storage drives on the One, so I was wondering if the 32/64GB drives are partitioned?
The reason why I'm asking it that I am trying to talk myself into the 32GB model, but if there is 26GB of available space on the 32GB and 1-1.5GB of that will be apps and OS then effective the available space is reduced to ~24GB.
SykesAT said:
I currently have the HTC Sensation 4G (TMOUS). It has 1GB of internal storage that was just for Apps and the OS, IE it was not user accessible (unless you had root). Then you had your MicroSD for the usual user and app data storage stuff.
From what I have read there are not two internal storage drives on the One, so I was wondering if the 32/64GB drives are partitioned?
The reason why I'm asking it that I am trying to talk myself into the 32GB model, but if there is 26GB of available space on the 32GB and 1-1.5GB of that will be apps and OS then effective the available space is reduced to ~24GB.
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Not quite sure what you are getting at but the 32gb model is of course 32gb. The quoted accessible space is what is remaining to the user after the operating system and included apps are installed and can be used for whatever you wish (app. data, media etc.). This will not be reduced by the operating system as it is in a separate part (partition?) of the storage.
bobsie41 said:
Not quite sure what you are getting at but the 32gb model is of course 32gb. The quoted accessible space is what is remaining to the user after the operating system and included apps are installed and can be used for whatever you wish (app. data, media etc.). This will not be reduced by the operating system as it is in a separate part (partition?) of the storage.
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Perfect, thanks.
Do you know the size of the app/OS partition?
bobsie41 said:
Not quite sure what you are getting at but the 32gb model is of course 32gb. The quoted accessible space is what is remaining to the user after the operating system and included apps are installed and can be used for whatever you wish (app. data, media etc.). This will not be reduced by the operating system as it is in a separate part (partition?) of the storage.
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That's simply not the case here. The 32gb partition is used by os and apps. Actually, the available space right after unboxing is approx 25gb
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My Note is still going strong, but I have a permanent notification about lack of storage space, and the phone runs slowly.
The version of Android is 4.1.2 - would switching to KitKat reduce the amount of space required? I heard they tried to make it compatible with cheaper phones with less built-in storage space?.
I don't have many non-essential apps installed by now, and I have them on the SD card where possible. It seems that the Google Apps are now so big that they are taking up all the space.
My phone is rooted - if I switch to KitKat I guess I should be able to add the option to install to SD back in.
If KitKat is a good idea, and I want to keep S-Pen functions, which would be a fast rom to use?
In Storage Settings how big does it say your storage areas are?
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In Storage Settings how big does it say your storage areas are?
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Total space 1.97GB
Available 125MB
USB Storage Total space 11.07GB
Available 1.99GB
SD Card Total space 3.97GB
Available 1.54GB
Switching ROM won't change it. But you can repartition to increase the internal storage size. You'll have to backup everything though because it will all be deleted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642299
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Switching ROM won't change it. But you can repartition to increase the internal storage size. You'll have to backup everything though because it will all be deleted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2642299
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Thanks, looks good I will check it.