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The cold reality of black crush/clipping/pixelation(?)

So, basically, I'm in the market for a new phone. For a long time I've scavenged the interwebs for all the 'needy info'. But we all know that the black hole called the internet is treacherous... Millions of opinions that seem to do nothing else but contradict each other.
The problem we call black crush. It's doing my head in, as I don't know what to believe anymore. Does every GNote suffer from it and how bad is the problem? After the ICS upgrade, that is. Also, where does this problem occur (video playback, photos/ web)? Certain movie formats/codecs (low quality xvid vs h264mkv for example?) I like to watch movies on my phone, so it's a big thing for me.
I'm deciding between the GNote and the Gnex (not sure if the Gnex suffers from the same issue)...
So, bottom line, does every GNote suffer from this problem and how bad is the problem realistically? (A lot of stuff gets greatly exaggerated on the web sometimes...)
Thanks for your time.

In my opinion problem is huge, and yet no fix from Samsung. I'm the same way I love watching movies on the phone especially on gnote's big screen but black crush issue totally ruins it. Everytime there is dark scene I get so distracted by all the pixellations, it's really hideous. Funny thing is I don't ever see this problem viewing pictures (do notice pixellation on wallpapers though) or games, only movies... It's really a shame. I have tried every types of movie formats, nothing works. ICS update did improve color banding but that's about it.
I have heard gnex has same screen issues but I can't tell for sure since I don't own one. If I were you I would get galaxy s3 or wait till gnote2.
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gideonMorrison said:
So, basically, I'm in the market for a new phone. For a long time I've scavenged the interwebs for all the 'needy info'. But we all know that the black hole called the internet is treacherous... Millions of opinions that seem to do nothing else but contradict each other.
The problem we call black crush. It's doing my head in, as I don't know what to believe anymore. Does every GNote suffer from it and how bad is the problem? After the ICS upgrade, that is. Also, where does this problem occur (video playback, photos/ web)? Certain movie formats/codecs (low quality xvid vs h264mkv for example?) I like to watch movies on my phone, so it's a big thing for me.
I'm deciding between the GNote and the Gnex (not sure if the Gnex suffers from the same issue)...
So, bottom line, does every GNote suffer from this problem and how bad is the problem realistically? (A lot of stuff gets greatly exaggerated on the web sometimes...)
Thanks for your time.
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Time for one of those contradictions! I have had Note since last November and never had pixelation issues (black crush) on GB or ICS. I do see some of the greyish wash on shadows, but found that turning off the option for Outdoor Visibility in the video settings solved most of that.
So I am one of the lucky ones, others have had issues and have posted on youtube about the problem.
I watch lots of movies and would recommend the Note. Best thing for you to do is to go to your local phone store and try it. It does seem that some screens are better than others so if you purchase from a local store you can try the phone first and return it if it doesn't work to your satisfaction.

I've had my Note for about a week, and I'm loving it!
About the Black Crush problem I, myself can only see it in low quality files in both GB and ICS. I'm currently watching 720p episodes of Rome and I cannot see any black crush, I also watched a couple of Game of Thrones 1080i files without any problem at all. In fact, I rather watch it on my note screen than my 46" Panasonic Plasma since the colors is so vibrant and everything is super-sharp!
TL;DR Black crush is noticeable on low quality files & youtube clips. Not on high quality files such as 720p or higher nor on, for example The Hobbit trailer on Youtube.

I've read so much about this, yet, I have no problems at all with anything people are describing. I am on Asylum ICS (a CM9 based ROM).

Try viewing this image on your gnote. Most people with black crush issues will be able to see 4-21 with no gradual gradations. 0-3 is pitch black.
On normal screen, you be able to see gradual gradations 1-21, 0 being pure black.
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it might not be on every galaxy note
but its in a lot of them
if watching movies is important to you i wouldnt recommend buying Gnote
until now there are no evidence (video) to prove that the note doesnt have this problem
only people in forums who say they dont have wich is not a solid proof

Never had any problem! As earlier stated it only occurs sometimes with v bad quality media!

max-thamer said:
it might not be on every galaxy note
but its in a lot of them
if watching movies is important to you i wouldnt recommend buying Gnote
until now there are no evidence (video) to prove that the note doesnt have this problem
only people in forums who say they dont have wich is not a solid proof
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Careful buddy! You are bordering on being offensive - saying that those of us that are happy with our video quality don't know what we are talking about.
I watch around 90 minutes of video every week day on public transport and have never had an issue - that's over 200 hours and many TV shows and movies of varying quality - but usually HD - with no conversion.
As I posted above - best to check out the phone at a local store - you can make your own mind up then. I would recommend this phone to anyone that is not concerned about it's size. Each to his own.

I had 4 notes and seen 3 others. These all had black crush. The 2 latest notes made in march this year have a 90 % improvement. During normal use in day or under normal lighting to dim lighting the left side has a gradually decline black. You cannot tell their is an issue. In pitch black it still cuts off at 4. The old notes were clear to see the cut off even during normal lighting. I think they Must have sorted the issue In the newest notes but I could be wrong.
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TempusFudgeIt said:
Careful buddy! You are bordering on being offensive - saying that those of us that are happy with our video quality don't know what we are talking about.
I watch around 90 minutes of video every week day on public transport and have never had an issue - that's over 200 hours and many TV shows and movies of varying quality - but usually HD - with no conversion.
As I posted above - best to check out the phone at a local store - you can make your own mind up then. I would recommend this phone to anyone that is not concerned about it's size. Each to his own.
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sorry man i didnt meant to offend anyone
but as i said i didnt find a solid proof to prove there are no promlems with dark gradients
so, can you please make a video of the galaxy note playing this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPoHPNeU9fc
it will be really helpful for guys like th OP

I have just watched that trailer on mine and it plays fine. I remember on my other notes it was awful and dark scenes were terrible on the same video. On this new note its fine. I will try to post a video later today or tomorrow.

I just watched the Avengers 720p trailer, from youtube down-loader, and i saw none or very little "black crush/clipping/pixelation" , there is a problem with the very bottom of the video, a horizontal line, you would think it was a vhs conversion.
Now this is my second Note, the first one had very bad black crush, large areas of moving and static pure black in dark/shadow areas of movies.
My new note is a newer version than my last one, so maybe samsung is working on the problem behind the scenes, as according to a lot of note owners they denigh there is any problem, and they say this is the first time they have heard of this issue , looks like they dont want a massive recall.
I have heard some note owners have had to swap up-to five time before they get a good note.
John.

Tinderbox (UK) said:
I have heard some note owners have had to swap up-to five time before they get a good note.
John.
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I was one of those. I sent Samsung 6-7 letters and even changed my screen on my 2nd note after 5 days and still had the issue. After 3-4 months of constant talking to Samsung Head Office they agreed to change my note and I got my wife's note on a T mobile upgrade. Both manufactured in March April and these have no issues. I know when I say there's definitely an improvement as I was very active on the Screen Issue thread with my other notes. A screen change will not solve the issue from my experience. They have tinkered something within the note to improve the black crush issue.

Cheers for the extensive input, guys. However, the contradiction is (sadly) also strong with this one. Varying from only HD quality videos will play well, to units that were made before March are more faulty than newer units, to no problems at all...
Perhaps it's wise to state your devices' manufacture date, along with your experiences, to shed some light in this mess, provided by Samsung™.
I feel we still need more input/cowbell...

I think this problems is not as big as people say it is...
Has 2 devices already, both were affected - and honestly i couldn't care less... if you watch decent quality movie, no black crush will disturb you that much.
( yes, i know that some devices might have a huge problem with that, but haven't seen one with it yet )

So is this a problem with the older Notes or something?
I had a look at the image in post number 6 and can definitely see that numbers 1-3 are "missing" and the other numbers are very "samey" but that Avenger video looks absolutely crisp and generally just great. I downloaded the Full HD version to my phone to test it.
Does anyone have a clip that is good for testing this black crush?

andreww88 said:
I've read so much about this, yet, I have no problems at all with anything people are describing. I am on Asylum ICS (a CM9 based ROM).
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+1
never experienced this on any rom ive tried wither
@OP remember: people who are happy dont come onto the internet to say that, but people who are unhappy will rant and rave about the problem
for every one person who says there is a problem, there is 50 that arent affected

I am on my second Note, both have the issue. It is not in your face or really noticable in nornal light, watch a movie in a darkened room and bang its in your face.
Its like there is a big gap between 3 and 4 on the test image with no fade, and when a movie tries to show a shade between the 2 levels the Note does not know what to do, so you get the black and grey blocks ( the closest it can get to the real shade that should be displayed) .

CONTACTMC said:
I am on my second Note, both have the issue. It is not in your face or really noticable in nornal light, watch a movie in a darkened room and bang its in your face.
Its like there is a big gap between 3 and 4 on the test image with no fade, and when a movie tries to show a shade between the 2 levels the Note does not know what to do, so you get the black and grey blocks ( the closest it can get to the real shade that should be displayed) .
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Right, that's what I read a lot yeah: not really noticable in the light, but quite a lot in the dark. And that's exactly where I plan to watch the majority of (HD) films.
The Note in this video is extremely affected, I'd say:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a8aIGeLERg
I really blame Samsung for being such d*ckheads to release an (imo) unfinished device.
Does anyone know if it's the same on the Gnex, since I can't really find the same issue. Other than the purple screen, black splotches, banding. Those are usually really visible when screen brightness is all the way down.

Questions/truthful reviews/test results/comparison/and more 02/"25"/13 Update part2

Questions/truthful reviews/test results/comparison/and more 02/"25"/13 Update part2
Hi guys if you got some questions you can ask me.
(PS my videos are not professional as made ​​by advanced user )
check the post number 4

1. hows the screen?, its been getting a lot of flack.
2. audio quality from speaker and from the headphones?
3. the headphones included, are the standard "Y" headphones or "J" because ive seen them use both styles?
4. when running a lot of tasks does the phone get hot?
5. Is the camera good on a scale of 1-10, also compare it to other phones you have had. maybe post pics?
6. are the flaps a pain?
7. is the led notification light just red and green? or all colors like the galaxy phones?
8. out of the boxes what kinda playstation integration is there?
9.how is the Walkman app? compared to other music apps?

Re: Just got the phone. Any questions ?
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Hi guys if you got some questions Just ask me.
I did 2 videos. Fast unboxing, phone set up., and after full charge will do bench tests.
do you want to see videos ? (sorry they not professional)
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Congrats on getting the phone.Could you show how it performs ( scrolling, zooming in web pages, app launch time, multitasking etc...)
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My video review:
Sony Xperia Z quick unboxing.
Sony Xperia Z set up.
Sony Xperia Z Benchmarking test's
Sony Xperia Z "The bad side"
New
Sony Xperia Z "USB-OTG support"
Update:
Ok Im doing some tests with battery life.
(Battery test is not complete yet., more accurate results will be ready on Monday) And I want to tell you guys for now I can say the battery life with out STAMINA mode is very good.
All day from morning until now I'm using my phone every 5 min. Pictures, videos, internet, games, apps....long story short the phone was on very active use.
(I did so many restarts also)
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Now guys pay attention to grey UI colors (background)
When you put screen at maximum brightness, it begins to seem that black color looks greyish !
But after looking closely you realize that this is dark grey color . You may have at first look a illusion of bad screen. But again it just grey UI. (why sony did that ?!).
Example:
(PS When the first deodex rom will appear, I will make a nice theme for us, witch is will bring much eye candy UI like this: AOSP Jelly Bean theme)
However I took a picture to show you something.
This is a "black" wallpaper from Cyanogen mod 10.1 bootanimation.zip with full brightness at dark room.
As you see dark is not dark enough
Here is some camera comparison.
Night time in nasty foggy/rainy weather:
Nexus S (CyanogenMod):
Zsex (sorry I slightly smeared the picture) :
I also did some cool picture of the device
(Night look)
UPDATE: 02/25/13
Guys I have a bad and good news.
Let's start with the good news.
STAMINA not just a stupid energy mode. It's kind of intelligent scanning program. Witch is tracking all active process.
You will ask me "what do you mean ?"
Example I using BeWeather app. (very nice weather application, very sexy and provides beautiful widgets)
Today I got notification:
Not bad yea ?
Now bad news.
The battery life is bad. Yes guys. More bad than Galaxy S III.
My phone was on charge all night (more than 9 hours). When I woke up I activate STAMINA mode.
I always listening music and surfing the internet when I in bus. (from New Jersey to New York)
The way is around 2-3 hours.
(due to my C6603 model witch is not working with Tmobile 4G, Im using tmobile hotspot)
Long story short I arrived to the work. Check my battery status:
With the same active usage:
On galaxy S3 I got at least: 79-83%
On galaxy note 2 I got at least 92%
So if you see I providing only true info. Where is no bulls.h.i.t.
And another good news
I get a lot of compliments because of this phone. The phone is sexy as f*ck
Regards.
UPDATE:
Ok guys I found something interesting !
We all know about the liquid indicators witch is are generally placed in similar locations (under the battery) These indicators turn red when exposed to water, which can void your warranty.
So Xperia Z also have that "liquid indicators" and its located inside under protective pads.
Rgerads

What's your firmware version?

Here we go.

Made in China, Unbelievable.. hahaa
I'm going to China next tuesday, Hope I'd get the phone soon too.
and are you German or French to get this phone this quick?
wish it was released world wide at the same time.
did you get LTE one?
Edited:
Oh you're German, just now watched the videos.
I think you paid little bit extra huh.I think it's because for the dock and all.
okay you've got the LTE one too.
Can you upload the benchmark results too?
If you can find 64GB card can you try that out too?

chesterr said:
Made in China, Unbelievable.. hahaa
I'm going to China next tuesday, Hope I'd get the phone soon too.
and are you German or French to get this phone this quick?
wish it was released world wide at the same time.
did you get LTE one?
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Haha!
My one probably LTE
I got this phone from Germany. There it'already available

It is recommended that you put a screen cover over the anti shatter film as the anti shatter film is prone to fingerprints.

spurs1959 said:
It is recommended that you put a screen cover over the anti shatter film as the anti shatter film is prone to fingerprints.
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I will remove shatter crap and will put SGP ultra clean film It will be muuch better

Hey congrats on getting the phone. I wanted to know which color you bought? Also, as it's got glass both in the front and back how many fingerprints does it attract?

So much fingerprints!
Maybe is pre installed film, I don't know but the device is always dirty lol

avetny said:
So much fingerprints!
Maybe is pre installed film, I don't know but the device is always dirty lol
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Do you have the black color?

xX NeOnShK xX said:
Do you have the black color?
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As u see on video Yes black color

avetny said:
As u see on video Yes black color
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Oh sorry. I didn't check out the video yet. Thanks for you reply. Now i am definitely getting the white version. Hopefully fingerprints won't be easily visible on that.

Re: Just got the phone. Any questions ?
avetny said:
I will remove shatter crap and will put SGP ultra clean film It will be muuch better
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After you remove the shatter crap can you confirm that the Sony logo is onto the display or the shatter crap?
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avetny said:
Hi guys if you got some questions Just ask me.
I did 2 videos. Fast unboxing, phone set up., and after full charge will do bench tests.
do you want to see videos ? (sorry they not professional)
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good for u
just i want to know about screen.
1. viewing angles
2. make it warm above 40 C, Hot. and pls inform us about any problem in device performance or any color tint on monitor, like yellow tint of xperia S. cause i had this problem with xperia s it important for me not to have same bad experience
3. and if u can do record video about scratch resistance glass, do something with with key or pen or ...
thanks alot

xX NeOnShK xX said:
Oh sorry. I didn't check out the video yet. Thanks for you reply. Now i am definitely getting the white version. Hopefully fingerprints won't be easily visible on that.
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Finger prints don't show up to bad on the white version, Still spend half my life polishing it though (its to sexy to have any marks!!)

x102x96x said:
good for u
just i want to know about screen.
1. viewing angles
2. make it warm above 40 C, Hot. and pls inform us about any problem in device performance or any color tint on monitor, like yellow tint of xperia S. cause i had this problem with xperia s it important for me not to have same bad experience
3. and if u can do record video about scratch resistance glass, do something with with key or pen or ...
thanks alot
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im also interested in this. Want to know how hot it gets and if it throttles like the nexus 4. And i feel you about the yellow tint/spot, had an xperia s myself
Edit: forgot to ask, how is the call quality ? can you hear them loud and clear when your on a call ? Also battery life how good is it ?

Thin_Bezel said:
After you remove the shatter crap can you confirm that the Sony logo is onto the display or the shatter crap?
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hahaha of course I will conf that ! And I am 100% sure it wil be there

UMI ZERO new flagship! 2GHz MTK6592T, 5" OGS FHD 1920x1080, Gorilla Glas 3

UPDATE, here my user unboxing of the UMI ZERO.
MEGA 3D Gaming
UMI ZERO, Inside the phone / Disassembly & How to remove battery
UMI ZERO, Super AMOLED Screen Comparison with the LG G3 & Lenovo S850 (Black values)
UMI ZERO with Android 5 Lollipop
UMI VOIX earphones test
Camera Samples/Tests: (firmware UMI v3.01 - f/1.8)
http://peecee.dk/uploads/112014/IMG_20130101_132417.jpg
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More info about the UMI ZERO here at UMI
http://www.umidigi.com
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UMI ZERO: Review
The UMI ZERO is currently one of the most Anticipated smartphones from China. The last two months it has been hyped on the Internet and on a lot of channels, and with the UMI ZERO, UMI wanted to start on a new era and create something new. The UMI ZERO comes with top specifications like Super AMOLED display, Double-sided Gorilla Glass 3, Rapid Charging, 2GB RAM, Camera with aperture f/1.8, the MTK6592 Turbo CPU and is only 6.4MM thin. So in terms of hardware the UMI ZERO is in front, but how will it do in real life?
I have now tested the UMI ZERO for about 1 week to see how the performance is. Note, that the UMI ZERO that I tested is a demo unit with beta software (UMI.V3.01), so the final version could be even better once the firmware is better optimized.
First impressions
When I received the UMI ZERO, the first thing I noticed was the amazing big box and packaging that the phone comes in. It was not just a boring standard box, but a box with a really nice sharply design which fits the ZERO perfectly. In the past I have seen similar on other phones from Xiaomi and OnePlus One.
The first thing I saw when I opened up the box was a big silver Z. At first glance it looked like metal, but it turned out to be some kind of case that you can use to protect the UMI ZERO.
Design & look
The phone itself feels really premium. It is totally made of metal & glass and kind of heavy (in the good way) in the hand, there are no real plastic parts on the phone, and the metal "superbody" together with the double-sided Gorilla Glass III glass makes it feel really high-end and expensive. Some could be a little anxious about the double-sided glass, as it probably would not survive a drop from a higher distance. When the screen is turned off, the phone looks totally black - it has this kind of "Stealth-Look" to it, that makes it look cool and mysterious.
The screen with 1920x1080 pixels on the UMI ZERO is providing a sharp colorful picture, and black is really deeply black and will not use any power. So it is easy to see that it is using an original full hd Samsung Super AMOLED screen. While I tested the phone it was a pleasure to use the screen and both text and graphics were always really good to read/watch.
Unfortunately, the UMI ZERO has no notification LED. And when you receive a SMS, or you have a missed call. You are not able to see that in any way. I would have liked a notification LED in the top of the phone, or maybe a solution where the touch buttons would flash to notify you. Also the touch buttons could be a little brighter in my opinion. UPDATE: You can use the 3 touch buttons light as a notification! with the app called "LG Touch LED Notifications" it just requires ROOT and works great on the ZERO.
ROM & UI (UMIZERO.V3.01)
The UMI ZERO comes with a ROM based on 4.4.2 KitKat, the UI looks very stock (like Vanilla Android) with only small optimizations and changes made by UMI. Inside the settings I also found a Powersaving & Extreme Powersaving mode and the brightness control support "economic brightness" that should save some battery. I did not find any features like Off-screen gestures or double tap to wake, that many other China phones today offers but I believe that the final UMI ZERO ROM will have more features, and that the limited features on mine is because of the beta ROM.
Performance
Inside the UMI ZERO we find the MTK6592T Octa Core chip-set, where T stands for "Turbo". Normal Octa Core phones run with 1.7Ghz, while the Turbo version runs with whole 2.0Ghz. While I used the phone, it was very smooth in the UI and the overall performance was good. Regarding 3D gaming, it also performed really good, and games like Modern Combat 5 ran smooth with the highest graphic settings without any lag. In Antutu 5.1 the UMI ZERO scored 31200 points which is significant better than on other standard Octa Core phones.
The 13 mega-pixel camera (20 mega-pixel interpolated) provides some nice pictures, most pictures I shot with the UMI ZERO were sharp, with good contrast/colors and with minimal noise or blur. The auto-focus is fast and precise. I would definitely say that the camera is above the normal standard that we find on many other china phones.
The GPS is really fast on the UMI ZERO when your outside and have an open sky. It only takes some few seconds to get locked on the satellites. I found that the Voice & WiFi reception is pretty standard, not really better or worse than on other phones.
Sound quality
I was pleasantly surprised by the good sound-quality (from the ear-piece) when I spoke with people using the UMI ZERO. The sound is very loud and clear, and it is easy to hear the part in the other end. Regarding the speaker on the back, it was also good and loud and perfect for gaming, but when the phone was laying top-down on a table, the back-speaker would be a little blocked and the sound would because of that, then be a little lower.
Battery
During my test with the UMI ZERO, I only experienced good battery-life. Inside it has a 2780mAh mah and it can easily last a whole day or more with normal usage. And with the Extreme Powersaving mode enabled I am sure it can last even longer. The Rapid Charger feature is also a very nice thing, and is possible because the charger is on 2,4A. You could say that the rule is, that the charging time up to 80% is about 1 minute for 1%, so 20 minutes would charge the phone about 20%.
Verdict
If you are looking for a stylish phone made of high-end materials and with some good specifications, and the price is no problem. Then the UMI ZERO would be a very good choice. In my opinion, the UMI ZERO delivers good performance & build-quality above the normal standard on the market and really worth the extra money.
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Specifications:
- 5 inch OGS FHD 1920×1080 pixels (Original Samsung Super-AMOLED)
- Gorilla Glass 3
- MT6592T (8 core MediaTek) 2GHz clock frequency
- GPU Mail 450 mp4
- 2 GB of RAM
- 16 GB of internal memory;
- Battery capacity 2780 mAh with quick charge
- 13-megapixel rear camera with an image sensor: Sony Exmor RS f/1.8
- 8-megapixel front camera
- Dual Sim Dual Standby
- Bands: GSM 850/900/1800/1900 and WCDMA 850/900/1900/2100 3G
- Android 4.4 KitKat firmware
- Quick charge technology from Texas Instruments
- 137,37 x 66,36 x 6,4 mm
- Powersaving / Extreme Powersaving
- Comes Pre-ROOTED
- Antutu Benchmark score: 30.000
- Air Gestures: Yes, but you need to get close to the sensor
- Google Cardboard works: Yes
- Gyroscope built-in: Yes
- Photosphere works correct: Yes
- GPS: Works fast and good
- Network & WiFi: Works good on my device (3-4 pins in reception)
- See sensors supported here: http://peecee.dk/uploads/122014/Screenshot_2014-12-02-09-36-40_big_thumb.png
UMI ZERO Battery Disassembled (Normally you can NOT open the ZERO or remove the battery!)
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i heard it use the same screen with Samsung Galaxy S5, is it really?

watalee said:
i heard it use the same screen with Samsung Galaxy S5, is it really?
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Yes ZERO adopts Samsung's Super-AMOLED. The display is a AMOLED display with an integrated touch function. It has a touch-sensor (on-cell) over the display. Compared with a conventional screen, it is 1.2mm thinner. Self-luminous also means 10% lower consumption. High static contrast ratio and high transparency also makes the color brighter and crisper - with an 178°wide visible angle.

Very good mobile phone, hope the price is not too expensive.

After a long time of waiting. UMI has now released the official specifications for UMI ZERO (source UMI).
What we can see from this, is that the UMI ZERO will be a true high-end smartphone with a lot of power, a big battery and a really good screen.

To your information, I just saw this on UMIs page.
UMI is also now giving away a free UMI Zero to 1 fan.
UMI Give Away Time (only from 20/10-5/11). Win a free UMI Zero read more here http://www.facebook.com/umicommunit...6381240861590/372876502878730/?type=1&theater on the UMI facebook page. And they also have a special 50% off offer here http://www.umidigi.com/About/SpecialOfferActivitives/

Just waiting patiently... But could have been 3Gig ram and 4G lte.
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Jeffylaw said:
Just waiting patiently... But could have been 3Gig ram and 4G lte.
Sent from my UMI C1 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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Yes but I think then the price would have been too high also. Under normal circumstances 2GB should be enough. 4G would have been nice, but not all places you can even use 4G LTE yet.

Ye you are right... Hope also the camera will live up to the hype too cos my umi c1 camera is a crap...
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Post #1 is now also updated with my unboxing video. So far the device is stunning, camera seems also to be very nice, sharp pictures. But need to test it some days before I can say more about it.

Saw a video that otg not supported? If true then a very big No for me...
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Waiting for your full review of the phone and it's retail price is quite high though.

Jeffylaw said:
Waiting for your full review of the phone and it's retail price is quite high though.
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Yes the price is high, but it is because the phone is made all in metal and glass. There are almost no plastic parts on this phone. So the materials are of high quality. So far I am impressed with the camera, it is clearly much better than on many other Chinese phones I have tried. Also the screen is a joy to look at with the Super AMOLED FHD. Unfortunately, The phone doesn't support OTG, according to UMI it is because of the fast charging technology that the phone uses via the micro USB port, they could not combine it with OTG.

Who needs a quick recharge on just 27380mah battery? I was considering this but without otg I'll look at a better and complete phone else where!

Great unboxing video!
Would it be possible for you to post some sample pictures taken with the camera?
Also - does it have a separate LED for notifications, or it uses the bottom buttons? If it's the buttons, then I assume it doesn't allow any customization in color or pulsing?
Thank you!

JankyLV said:
Great unboxing video!
Would it be possible for you to post some sample pictures taken with the camera?
Also - does it have a separate LED for notifications, or it uses the bottom buttons? If it's the buttons, then I assume it doesn't allow any customization in color or pulsing?
Thank you!
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Thanks I have added some camera samples now to post #1. Unfortunately there is no LED for notications or in the buttons. But they may make something for the buttons if it is possible, UMI are still working on the software, it is not final yet.

The pictures look good. Although the ones with the helicopter - are the colors correct? Aren't they actually more saturated?
The buttons don't even light up when you have a missed call or a message?

JankyLV said:
The pictures look good. Although the ones with the helicopter - are the colors correct? Aren't they actually more saturated?
The buttons don't even light up when you have a missed call or a message?
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My lamps in the ceiling, are spots with cold temperature light, I think that's why the helicopter looks like that. With warm light or normal daylight it would have been more colourful. As told, my phone is currently using a beta software - and it has no kind of notifications after a call or sms, so I think they will release a much better software/ROM in the final version with this, let's hope so.

The quick-charge function is really as good as advertised?
I'm looking for a new phone, and my main concerns are the camera and good GPS.
GPS on mediatek devices are usually.. Well.. Not that good How about this one?

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OP, have you tried rooting the umi zero and whats the application memory size?

Anyone Else Disappointed with Gear Image Quality?

Having spent way too many hours trying to perfect my own DIY HMD, I thought I'd found the solution: I could just buy a Note 4, buy a Gear, and be done with it ( at least until the Rift is released).
Got my Gear today, and ... I can't get over how poor the image quality is. It's not the Note 4 screen, which is fine, it's the lenses on the Gear. When I look at a screen capture on my HMD (using the Note 4 as a screen), and then look at it on the Gear, the same image seems drastically different: zoomed in, with pixels the size of baseballs drowning out all sense of immersion. I tried a 1080p video on the Oculus Theater ... it was so pixelated it reminded me of watching videos on my old psp ...
In every other respect the Gear beats my DIY HMD hands down, but in this one--I would argue very important area--it absolutely does not.
Am I the only one who had this experience?

I agree with you that the image quality is still not good enough to replace mediums like a TV or monitor. This is for sure one reason why it will not find mass adoption right now. You must understand that this are really early days of consumer VR now and until today there is no "real" consumer ready HMD on the market.
ad. Gear VR lenses:
They really could have used better optics but then the price would be not "consumer friendly" then - also the DK2 lenses are crap in my opinion but it seems the market for good vr optics also just have been awaken.
I remember my first VR experience was with a homemade cardboard-design HMD using good lenses from high grade binoculars. They were heavy (as glass made) and the achieved FOV was not really great but it was crystal clear and nearly zero SDE. When i got my DK2 i was really disappointed to see this big pixel party! But realizing what a great FOV and the right software can achieve (a kind of presence) i knew we have to go for great FOV if VR should be a new medium and not only a image/movie viewer.

Thanks for the detailed response!
I think Samsung/Oculus tipped the balance WAY too far toward FOV at the expense of SDE.

Haints said:
Thanks for the detailed response!
I think Samsung/Oculus tipped the balance WAY too far toward FOV at the expense of SDE.
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Personally I prefer a larger FOV, and think you get the best experience with the foams removed (only have some on my nose). Would never choose a smaller FOV just for slightly less of a SDE as that would totally kill the immersion for me. Hoping for 4K full RGB screens in two years time.

Agree with you
I for one absolutely agree with you. got mine 2 days ago and yeah the experience is nice but the image quality is fuzzy or blurry, it would be nice if someone can mod a lens on to the Gear VR to sharpen the quality.
my question: is this issue addressed in the upcoming drift in 2016?
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Having spent way too many hours trying to perfect my own DIY HMD, I thought I'd found the solution: I could just buy a Note 4, buy a Gear, and be done with it ( at least until the Rift is released).
Got my Gear today, and ... I can't get over how poor the image quality is. It's not the Note 4 screen, which is fine, it's the lenses on the Gear. When I look at a screen capture on my HMD (using the Note 4 as a screen), and then look at it on the Gear, the same image seems drastically different: zoomed in, with pixels the size of baseballs drowning out all sense of immersion. I tried a 1080p video on the Oculus Theater ... it was so pixelated it reminded me of watching videos on my old psp ...
In every other respect the Gear beats my DIY HMD hands down, but in this one--I would argue very important area--it absolutely does not.
Am I the only one who had this experience?
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To be very very honest, Im not disappointed about it at all. The tech is really young, the Note4 was only compatible with the innovator and development editions of the hardware. I cant comment on the quality improvement between the devices. But with a Note5 and a consumer version, Im getting exactly what I thought id be getting. Very bleeding edge technology that hasn't even gotten off the runway but is far ahead than anything else on the consumer market today.

Remember this: 100$ ..................... if you want something better, the next step is 600$ and only in march.
Also, this is technically not even an official 1st gen device. It's a slightly better draft than the slightly better draft of the previous editions. I think oculus and samsung partnered to use Galaxy users as a sort of Beta test. This technology obviously is the future, but as of now, its still a foetus. I have a Note 5, one of the most powerful smartphones in the world, and yet, the VR uses 98% of the phones performance. The battery drains within 1h practically and it generates so much heat it would probably keep your coffee warm in winter.
I bought one of the best rated VR headsets on amazon as a gift for my nephew, it cost me half of what my GearVR cost me, and it doesnt even come close to offer what Samsung does. The ONLY thing it does better, it it has almost no light leak. Thats also the only thing i can ***** about the GearVR, i would have liked a black background around lenses and thicker padding around face, or at least, an extra strip of padding we can patch the light leaks (also a carrying bag would have been nice even if it was cheap).
This GearVR sould have been called the "Early Bird Edition". We all are early adopters, I can tell you one thing, for 100$, I have impressed 100% of the people that put the headset on, and not only impressed, amazed. And 3 weeks later, i'm still being impressed by the new thing I find I can do, explore or play.
As for the pixels, it would take an 8K screen 3 inches from our face to not see them. I didnt know this until recently when the app froze on me but out the the entire screen realestate, only a very small portion is used for a majority of content. So yeah, that 1080p content you are watching, not exactly trueHD
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I might have made it a bit small, but not by much.
P.S. Not a big fan of the super mega studio adult films, but they have actually some of the highest quality videos out there, there are some samples floating around, its quite impressive.

Over the moon with mine, can watch full length movies with ease Tonto being one of them, battery no problem here with an s6 edge plus, but use mine on wifi only usually, and I have facebook blather and g+ disabled, and nothing polling ,email etc. all on manual , usually use unit at 4 to 5 on its brightness slide ,not aware of any light leak in my experience.
Everyone without exception who has tried it is blown away, I own my favourite phone anyway and then this appears, an accessory for $99 with this level of experience, if you are fortunate to be able to afford it without neglecting your life and dependants needs.......who wouldn't . If apple had released this exact same item with their logo ,the media would have eaten it alive with cream and the public would too, and, when they do, they will, we all
know this is in its infancy, but its a great place to be, the next advance in screen resolution will nail it, when your looking at a 25 foot screen with the clarity of a samsung big tv quality ,you, entertainment wise, have arrived.
plus, keep em like new guys, when it comes time to upgrade, this will practically sell your phone for you...maybe. lol.

Love mine too. Have had it since the day after Thanksgiving, and still using it a lot daily. There is a "screen door effect" to it, but the resolution is still clear and bright on movies. I put on some 3D movies last week, and they look great, and are easy to watch. Games like Herobound and Gunjack are also stunning and extremely fun with a controller to play. Samsung Internet browser is great, but don't count on all content to be great quality. There are some good 3D video samples on Youtube through the browser though. Also just looked through some Experiences in the Oculus Video app tonight, like going to the Electric Daisy Carnival. Again, quality of that video not great, but still a fun experience to see what it would be like to be there.

SDE is overpowering and both sides of the screen out of focus - in my experience. Its a cool toy but nothing I would use for any length of time. This is with the Note 5.
That being said, the tech should probably be good in a year or so.

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Honor has recently been putting out some great new phones. Their budget lineup currently consists of the Honor 7X and the Honor 9 Lite. The Honor 7X is one of our favorite budget phones right now, and has even become the best selling phone in the Amazon unlocked phones category. The Honor 9 Lite has just recently launched in India and is quickly gaining traction due to its super low price.
If you own either of these phones, this is your chance to win a Google Home Mini. Leave a short review in the comments of this article, detailing what your thoughts are on your phone so far. Talk about the camera, performance, battery life, display quality, or anything that you feel is noteworthy.
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A beauty behold !
It's been eight days I BOUGHT it
USED it for alot of time until now.
COLOR is Midnight Black (personally wanted this, although other colors were tempting too)
Things that necessarily require mentions:
Network Bands (4g,3g,2g)
The network strength is perfectly fine, the signal doesn't fool. It correctly takes the receptivity to the exact extent needed, you wont loose any even in remote areas. If an iphone user has a network strength like one bit in his notification bar, you too are having surely. So, here network isn't a problem with this phone.
The Weight
In today world, we could be of carrying any weights, but when it comes to the phones, the weight really matters. If it's above 180g, boy, take it in written, so much pain in hand, soo much when talking calls, soo much in holding it straight infront. Soo much in pocket too. This phone instead is only 149g, which is excellently lightweight. The utmost benefit would be for people who waited for a phone which had good specs and stands equal to others of its range aswell. For the lightweight phones preferring people, finally the wait is over
Body Built
A strong phone doesnt mean an awesome phone. A weak phone doesnt mean poor quality. Firstly, one should know there is no such thing like strong or weak in phones of major brands. It is purely specs that decide to the needs of people and make phones accordingly. This phone has Severely flaunting looks. Totally an eye catcher. The glass back is soo beautiful & makes you want to look at it rather than looking at the screen most of the time
Display Screen
The 18:9 ratio is more than you can ask for in this phone. I mean, you are getting a 428ppi screen, what more do you want expect that huge clarity and detail in this price range and phone screen This looks more crisp than the any other budget phones, i guarantee you baby, its 428ppi, you donno how good the screen gets when its 428. Most of the phones were 403ppi and looked already good enough. This is much better now.
Platform
You are not in line, like before a person or after a person. You are right next to each other, like holding hands. Which means, you are in such a thing called " Happiness comes in all sizes and quantities :victory:." Because, its HiSilicon Kirin 659 in all the phones of the honor budget class range. Which would benefit you highly in performing without causing any complexities. Games are good to play, if one knows how to tweak better, then it's kickass
Memory
4GB and 64GB, is more than enough and perfect. You wont require more for this processor and budget.
Camera
This is the core purpose of this phone. Damn, the photos are soo good, sooooo good that you will for the first time find yourself have a true "Wow" reaction on your face when you snap them. Selfies are great aswell. People mentioned alot in the comments session in major sellers websites that the nighttime shots are horrible in the rear camera. You should know one thing, you aren't carrying a DSLR or HandyCAM, its your phone. its primary utility was to communicate. You are wrong to expect it to do well in a lowlight location. Not even a DSLR with a flash can be capable of better picture quality. Even professionals use heavy lights for the good feel in a photo when movies are made. So, a phone you are expecting to do this night capable photography job is totally a myth. Think once, there is no point of expecting some heavy landscape photography over night. Even James Cameron would shoot his film in the day with soo expensive cameras. If still you arent happy then when it's night time you want to snap something, its not phone you require, that's surveillance camera you need to carry with yourself having night vision lens :laugh:
Sound
That's loud. You will be totally fine with it. Just as loud as it can fit in there. Music has clarity and crispness, bass isn't an element for music through speakers, earphones does the job well if someone needed bass.
Software
The Android 8.0 is soo well designed, it would understand your interests. Even would show you few that you wouldn't have imagined to find them in phone. There are all the modifications possibly existing in every popular custom ROM readily available in this honor phone stock ROM itself. The settings hold various toggles to change according to your liking. Below they are listed...
Huawei ID It takes care of backing up all the contacts, messages, calender and necessary stuff to the cloud provided by Huawei.
Wireless & Networks Lte, VoLTE configurations can be modified, data usage with specific networked apps is added advantage.
Apps & Notifications Apps to uninstall or disable, enable is available. Default apps, App twin & notification mods such as network meter, etc are here too.
Battery setting In this option, there is a power saving mode that can give you more than 4days standby if stuck to only few basic utilities with the phone.
Display setting Eye Comfort which can exchange color of screen to cool, warm feel. Screen resolution modification which is only in honor that enables to reduce screen density which can result in great power save.
Storage setting You get around 52GB free out of 64GB internal space. The RAM Management is nice too. There is always somehow 2.4GB RAM remaning in 4GB available though around 13apps are in the multitasking window. The software of honor does the RAM allocation very well for tasks processing.
Security & Privacy Fingerprints soo fast (0.25sec), file safe to hide files, App lock, Screen Pinning.
Smart Assistance setting Double tap to wake screen or lock screen.
System setting inside here, there are data transfer, backup & restore, reset, update, etc.
Themes These look soo beautiful and give a punchy look to the phone.
The Magazine Lockscreen This is the best part of the phone when you unlock, the pictures are soo beautiful that just by looking at them, your mind strikes at wow which really is relaxing and refreshing all the time you want them.
Navigation Buttons the onscreen buttons can be exchanged places from right to left which is way convenient for southpaw's.
Battery & Power Consumption
The moderate usage of phone can last a whole day, from 100% in the morning, you can use the phone till next day until same time u charged if you are only on 4g data usage and checking messages, attending calls, by then your battery will be around 10%. In the night, the percentage of drop in non usage is only 2% which is super less. The charging time is alot, but there's something honor's very concerned about, it takes alot of time to charge because, the module of charge input itself is designed by honor in such a way it takes charge slowly (Not to mistake as snail slow) to not spoil the battery life. Hence, this doesn't heat up phone very much. It keeps cool and does its job CooL without messing around. It takes 2hrs15min for full charge. This is same with many mobiles, almost 2hr15min is common with most mobiles.
Wifi, bluetooth, GPS, OTG are all working flawlessly too.
Frankly speaking, cost is soo low, quality we get is really good, more than pleasing for the price we pay for.
Mentions that need to be considered:
I know the camera in our phone is enough capable to get the exact software enhancements i find in HonorV10 Camera app. I clearly see honor is trying to limit these enhancements for the sake people would fall dull that they invested double the price and got exactly the same software loaded in half priced model (which is ours). Sure, many people might question this out. But, Please, middle class people require somebody to bother them. It's us who suffer the loss or gain equally and still keep calm without having no other choices rather than to convince ourselves we cant get more, nobody cares. The rich complain, they sue, you bother them. We request, we ask things soo much, we are many & loud but unheard (-_-) , you have established soo well in our country market this time, the what we have lost (beauty, power, feel ) in xiaomi phones, we found in yours. Your phones made us feel alive. I felt soo good looking at my Honor 9 Lite, it was worth all the effort you put on. I didnt even buy a Xiaomi phone for myself until date, i felt like us were being played by that company. It didnt feel good. They sold cheap stuff with good software tweaks. It was Hugo Barra who designed software, only because of this Xiaomi phones were a hit. You lagged at it alot in the past until Honor 6X. I never bought any Xiaomi device, i loved the Honor 4x, but found there were no updates. But this time you came superawesome into the market, your software is wayyy better than Xiaomi in looks and feel, all that it finally require is bug fixes, proper tweaks to utilize the whole capacity of the hardware, you do everything from scratch and created us this antique designed masterpiece phones. You should be proud. All you require is massive tweaking in the software, thats all. The processor's are superb, the screen buttersmooth, sound clear crisp and loud. Its the tweaking that's missing. I really wish honor this time you keep alot of effort in giving us customers in the country who bought your phones a huge happy smile. Ask how?? Here's how, we like gifts, gift us like 2 or 3days before festivals an OTA update that solves all the bug issues in our honor phones and then look at the news, scroll down, check the comments session. You would be very well liked. We'd then even feel honored to have had you bothering us and all together. Straight outta heart, we would be TRULY overjoyed that you did care for us this time on.
Dear Honor,
The world is a happy place for as long you, atleast hereafter consider to help us better .​​

It's the best you can get for the price with some small compromises
Let's start with not so good stuff before we get on to the great stuff!
I've got the 3GB variant and Midnight Black Color, I'm using it now for about 23 days.
Memory Management - Well the RAM/Memory management on this device is very aggressive, Here's how I was watching some dope stuff on YouTube and few Minutes in and I got a call and was talking for about 15 - 20 Mins and after the call ended, I was hoping the youtube app will be in the same state I left it! But, no The app was closed completely and I had to relaunch the app again, and also if you are running music in the background you get this stupid notification saying the app is running in the background and drains battery which can annoy anyone!
Hopefully, they will fix these in future software updates.
And (Not sure whether it's the Memory management or the app's problem), I'm running NOVA Launcher as default After 2 or 3 days, it automatically switched back to the default Launcher, well this only happened twice and after that, I didn't face this problem anymore, I thought it was worth mentioning.
Camera - Well the only thing that I felt weird was with the rear camera when I switched to Portrait mode or Wide Aperture mode It Changed the Resolution to 8MP, but the same with the front camera it was 13MP and there is no option to switch to 13MP, and maybe that's why most of the Tech YouTubers say the front cam of this device is good then the rear.
And also I wish it had EIS hopefully, in future software update we will get it!
It would really help the video quality!
Well, that's the things that annoyed me the most, now let's get to the good stuff!
Design and Build Quality - Well, you might have heard a lot about this, but the device screams Premium, They have nailed the design with this device, it's absolutely gorgeous and It's really light to hold tho, some people may like it, and people like me may want a heavy device (Personal preference).
OS and UI - Well it's really smooth didn't have any lag issues or any of such kind, it's snappy and didn't face any heating issues or so, the only thing is RAM management which I mentioned it earlier and apart from that, it's really good.
Battery and charging speed - I could easily get through a day, I have no complaints about the battery it's really good and I'm happy with it. From 20% to 100% the charging time it took was somewhere around 1hr 15 mins to 1hr 40mins, which is reasonable for a 3000mAh battery, it doesn't support fast charging but I don't think that's an issue as I can get a day's worth of battery and I have no complaints about it, But I did wish it had a Type - C port, it's fine not a big issues but it could've had a Type - C
Speaker and Headphone output - The speaker is loud and clear, there is no Distortion at full volume, there is a bit bass which you can feel and its' good but a finger can cover it and the whole sound can be lost, that's the only issue and that's the issue with all mono down facing speaker.
And for the headphone output, I don't own a premium headset, I have a cheap one and it worked fine with it, it was loud and clear.
Call and Network - Call quality was really good, No issues Tried with Jio, Vodafone and BSNL didn't face any issues, the receiver was able to hear me clear and loud and the data was also at a good speed and with 4G it didn't affect the battery much as I thought it would, Wifi Bridge is one of the really cool features and it works really good.
and Finally
Camera - Well I've already told the problem I faced apart from that I don't have any issues,
It focuses really fast and also takes photos really fast, it's super snappy! I really loved the quality of images that I got in this price segment.
The Pro Photo and Pro Video mode are really good if you know to use them well, There are several other modes The food mode is also good and Timelapse is awesome.
Well, the front cam in portrait mode does fail sometimes to recognize people's face if there are more than 2 persons in the shot, it just happens sometimes and not every time. And I wish it had a Slo-Mo Mode tho.
The images are of really good quality tho, good enough to post on Social Networking sites.
Conclusion - I think it worth the money I paid, It does have some minor issues which can be fixed via Software Update apart from that it's a really good device and I'm Lovin it.
PS - I had actually added images and since I'm a new member XDA doesn't allow new users to post links.

Not very impressed with the Honor 9 Lite.
I did online research and read lots of review on the Honor 9 Lite.
What convinced me was a comparison some reviewer did with his current daily driver, a 1+3t, and was, as he put it, 'pleasantly surprised'. Since my current daily driver is also a 1+3t I relented and bought one, the 3+32GB version.
After using the Honor 9 Lite I don't think it comes anywhere close to a 1+3t. Now I appreciate and understand that it is cheaper than my 1+3t (even at its current value) but I'm not very impressed, especially with the way EMUI 8 completely rapes Android stock ! I knew this going in but never realised to what extent EMUI restrict customisation.
Let me give examples.
1. First thing I always do with every phone i buy is disabled all apps I don't need/use. Some of the apps on the Honor 9 Lite are cooked in and without root cannot be disables, frozen or removed; e.g. Files, Huawei Mobile Service, Themes.
2. Next thing is to replace any homelauncher with my favourite 'Nova'. Well as soon as you do this on the 9Lite you get a pop-up message stating something like 'changing home launcher uses more battery'...What ? Anyway you can force it through and then just change the default home launcher to Nova. Then some of the EMUI widgets, like weather, don't work anymore. That's ok, I expected that, what I did not expect is for it to show up as available but when you try to add it to your homescreen you get a FC and Huawei launcher is back, in effect removing your default launcher you just set.
3. Huawei badges also obviously don't work under Nova; again as expected.
4. Next I fired up Chronus widget so i can get a replacement for the now non-working Huawei weather service (which at least you can disable). Chronus now does not update the alarm. So you set an alarm in clock but Chronus does not pick up the changee unless you go into chronus change something and save it. This was even after i loaded up Google clock and set alarm through that.
All the above works flawlessly in my Oreo based 1+3t.
5. Lag..yes it is a lot worse than my 1+3t, now like i said because of the price difference i did not expect the Kirin659 to be on par with the Snapdragon 821 but the lag difference was much more noticable on the Honor9 lite than i expected.
6. Since Nova was basically non functional I had to return to Huawei's own launcher.
7. No way of hiding status bar. By the way I also tried play store apps, like GMD Full Screen, but it did not work properly.
8. Battery life is one day on normal use.
9. Cameras are acceptable but no better than my single camera 1+3t.
Conclusion:
Not impresssed, it looks great, weight is spot on for me, size is also great so is the screen brightness, but everything else is nothing special and that EMUI8 man, it just restricts you from most customisation which is the reason we all love android. If i wanted restrictions i would have gone for an iphone.
Why should i have to unlock BL and root to be able to do simple things like use full immersive mode. I'd like to keep android pay functioning so don't want to unlock,root and battle with magidisk to hide root. I just want control back of my phone.
Anyway, thought i would put this together outlining my experience with the Honor 9Lite, hopefully yours will be better and find acceptable.

Well, I bought this device as my ex-device was quite old enough(I was using grand 2 as my daily driver).Next,when I was searching for new devices,I was looking for a device which is better in all aspects(camera,looks,sound,performance,signal quality) and also in a moderate price.Then I stumbled across Honor 9 Lite.It was the old phone in my budget range which was able to cater to my demands.It looks gorgeous as ever.The glass body,its colour (I got the Sapphire blue one) and its modern looks with minimal borders made me order the phone without even checking for other details(I already knew it supports 4G and fingerprint sensor) .When I got the phone,I found that it is not too heavy but is indeed slippery due to glossy back,so I applied the cover to increase friction and to prevent falling .
These are the following pros and cons of the phone I found:-
PROS
1.Camera->Both the front and back cameras are awesome and can even capture good amount of detail even in low light condition.Maybe the 4 cameras(2 in pairs does the trick)
2.Android OS->Being latest is the best.This device packs with Android Oreo which many 2017 flagships like S8(they got it but Samsung removed the OTA update) haven't recieved properly
3.Processor->I haven't heard about this processor's name earlier but was shocked by its insane frequency(greater than 2 Ghz) so I decided to do an Antutu benchmark and found that this processor's performance is comparable with Snapdragon 625.
4.Display->Display is awesome.Nothing to say about it
5.Battery->Battery life is a bit-tad low (It lasts 9 hrs for me),so I need to charge atleast once a day.No fast charging support and no USB C was a dissappointment
6.Storage and Ram management-Plenty of Ram(3 GBs) and storage(around 22 GBs),so no complaints there