Galaxy S as Audio source question - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi there,
Apologies for the noob questions. I'm thinking to grab a cheap Galaxy S to use as an audio player. Therefore if you can help provide some insights to the following would be great:
- Can it output audio to USB DAC?
- If so, what ROM supports it?
- Any special app for maximum sound quality? I heard Voodoo Sound is great.
- Storage issues?
thanks in advance!!!

Hi! Unfortunately it's not possible to use a usb dac with the i9000 to my best knowledge.
However it has a pretty decent wolfson 8994 dac built in. Voodoo sound (now included in CM's dsp manager) takes advantage of that enabling several features, analog gain control, etc.
In case you still want to use your own dac, i'd look for something else:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/595071/android-phones-and-usb-dacs/3870#post_10131100

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Hi All,
Love the forum, and since I have put froyo on, galaxy s is superb.
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Since the 3 button mod, voodo & froyo upgrade it been very smooth.
What i would like to know if i can use the Salaxy s as a high quality media device connected to my Hifi.
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Could i then use a blue tooth keyboard & mouse, and use the USB to a HDMI monitor or mini projector?
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S4 active & Bluetooth APt-x

I recently purchase the At&t S4 active and a pairs of Sennheiser MM-550X,
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in compare to normal Bluetooth which downgrade sound quality to near 120Kbps.
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No need to create two identical threads.

S8 Audio driver - sound altercation without root???

In all my previous phones, I've always had root for 2 things. Viper4Android (or ARISE) and Adaway. I can deal with the ads because to get to sites like couchtuner I just use the plethora of available adblock apps for the Samsung browser app. However, I cannot listen to the utter crap audio output of the S8 in its factory unrooted state.
If Viper4Android needs root access to the system partition to bypass the standard linux ALSA driver for sound adjustment, then how does Poweramp bypass it without root? See for yourself. If you use the standard (or any other music player without an EQ) and go into sound properties and adjust the software EQ under Settings --> Sounds and Vibration --> Sound Quality and Effects, the EQ changes the sound. However, if you install and run Poweramp, then when going to this EQ setting, it does not change the sound.
Here's my beef. The Samsung 'system wide' software EQ - when adjusting it, all it's doing is lowering the gain and boosting only that one frequency so your actual volume output is reduced to prevent clipping. On a rooted phone with V4A installed, this does not happen. It truly raises or lowers those specific frequencies. Does the API in Android Nougat prevent anything other than software manipulation? My main use for V4A is to use the "Dynamic System" feature to give more low end boost when the volume is not high, as well as adjusting harsh frequencies. V4A is sheer bliss on the V20. This also works extremely well in vehicles.
Your retort to this is naturally going to be "well just use Poweramp then". The problem with this is anyone that the Poweramp EQ is bound by software and even though it doesn't mess with the volume output, it's effect is terrible compared to V4A. Meaning, the 31hz slider on the EQ boosts around 50hz. The 16khz slider is more around 10khz and the 8khz band - let's not go there.
I'm trying to find out if anyone knows of any other audio application with a built in EQ that bypasses the system EQ Samsung put in the S8 that does not lower gain to try to reach the desired effect. Or suggest anything else I can try? I'm using the S8 with a pair of Westone 4R IEM's and B&O H6 cans. Any audiophile advice is welcome. I just wish I understood this more.
Thanks in advance!
Hey man, I'm in the same boat, and I have tried everything possible on my unrooted S8+, but I can find no substitute for V4A.
I'm using noozxoide-E , and set it to warm/bright, to get some boost where it needs it. I also enabled larger monitors as well.
But I can't find anything that does a clean gain boost or normalize function.
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Best solution I've found to the universally terrible Android audio problems is to get an external DAC. The Dragonfly Black 1.5 is $99 on Amazon and is plug-and play. The bonus is it works literally on any OS (desktop or mobile) and supports all audio formats including lossless. Samsung will try to redirect it to your default audio player app (in my case Neutron) but it works on any audio app you want if you ignore the notification. Basically it's the easiest way to make audio sound good on phones that haven't been rooted (yet). Works great with my Sennheiser headphones and amps the audio too. I just had to buy the USB-A to USB-C cable, which you can buy just about anywhere for cheap. For a phone that costs $800, you'd expect the internal DAC to work better.
Footnote: I bought it at a local Audiophile store on the owner's recommendation. It even works well with the Samsung bundled headphones but is more effective if you have a high-quality audio output. Hence Neutron or a high-quality streaming service.
I been stuck in this boat. Following
fantasticrat said:
Best solution I've found to the universally terrible Android audio problems is to get an external DAC. The Dragonfly Black 1.5 is $99 on Amazon and is plug-and play. The bonus is it works literally on any OS (desktop or mobile) and supports all audio formats including lossless. Samsung will try to redirect it to your default audio player app (in my case Neutron) but it works on any audio app you want if you ignore the notification. Basically it's the easiest way to make audio sound good on phones that haven't been rooted (yet). Works great with my Sennheiser headphones and amps the audio too. I just had to buy the USB-A to USB-C cable, which you can buy just about anywhere for cheap. For a phone that costs $800, you'd expect the internal DAC to work better.
Footnote: I bought it at a local Audiophile store on the owner's recommendation. It even works well with the Samsung bundled headphones but is more effective if you have a high-quality audio output. Hence Neutron or a high-quality streaming service.
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It's funny that you bring up the Dragonfly, because I own one of them - and they are excellent external DAC's! I have always used USB Audio Player Pro and has worked great. The only problem with that is I can't have it plugged in for hours listening to it because it eats away at the battery I already have a hard enough time using. The last time I tried using a Mophie battery pack, it wouldn't power the Dragonfly, so I couldn't do that either. I actually carried spare battery in my wallet and swapped it out midday. It's just a pain is all and was hoping for a better solution.
I think what I really should do is just get a LG Q8 (which was just introduced). It's literally a LG v20 - only smaller AND has waterproofing. My only concern is having to buy a phone overseas without a warranty.
Thanks for your input, though. I'm sure a lot of people haven't thought about this as an option!
joesee said:
It's funny that you bring up the Dragonfly, because I own one of them - and they are excellent external DAC's! I have always used USB Audio Player Pro and has worked great. The only problem with that is I can't have it plugged in for hours listening to it because it eats away at the battery I already have a hard enough time using. The last time I tried using a Mophie battery pack, it wouldn't power the Dragonfly, so I couldn't do that either. I actually carried spare battery in my wallet and swapped it out midday. It's just a pain is all and was hoping for a better solution.
I think what I really should do is just get a LG Q8 (which was just introduced). It's literally a LG v20 - only smaller AND has waterproofing. My only concern is having to buy a phone overseas without a warranty.
Thanks for your input, though. I'm sure a lot of people haven't thought about this as an option!
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Definitely the Dragonfly drains battery if you use the Red. I use the Black because it actually does better with low drain (i.e., portable) headphones. Higher-powered headphones I mostly use at home anyway. The biggest trouble I've had is convincing the S8 to use Tidal instead of suggesting my default audio player (currently Neutron, which at least sounds better than other alternatives I've tried). The advantage to the T-Mobile One unlimited data plan is I can stream lossless audio, and that overcomes a lot of the issues in conjunction with the Dragonfly Black. Oddly enough, the Black seems to *increase* battery life on my Chromebook Plus because my guess is it diverts a lot of the processing effort off the Chromebook's internal hardware. It doesn't have the same longevity on my S8, but I'm considering getting a small C-to-A hub with power throughput for when I'm on roadtrips; that way I can at least charge and listen to music at the same time.
Regarding the warranty, I haven't found that the benefits are really worth it; if you're on these boards and are remotely like me, odds are you'll void the warranty as soon as someone comes out with a way to root the phone. Plus overseas phones are nearly always unlocked (my Chinese-purchased Motorola Defy worked in every country I took it to and could be rooted from the day I bought it).
Quick heads up to my solution.
I got a syncup for $44 brand new from T-Mobile, and put my 6gb free data SIM in it.
I mounted my rooted Galaxy Tab 3 7.0 with a magnetic cd mount, for quick disconnect, so I don't leave it in view when parked. I threw all my streaming apps on it with V4A installed.
Lastly, I installed DIGITS so that all my calls still come through the car's BT just like the music, and obviously I can text as well.
So I now I can stream deezer with V4A running, and it's glorious.
My S8+ is no longer connected to the car, and just sits in the cupholder.
Had to think out of the box
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So this is an interesting turn of events. I dug out my Dragonfly the other day and installed my USB Audio Player PRO (from eXtream Software) and re-installed it. I notice that now they have not only the standard EQ, but also a 5 band parametric EQ. It is an extra $2.99 add on in the application. All in, I think I paid $8 for this app and the add on.
Anyway, this in my opinion is one of the best applications for using an external DAC. BUT - one real nice feature is you can also use the application without a DAC and force the audio through the Android System. So when I pulled out the Dragonfly, plugged my cans in the 3.5mm jack on the S8 and started messing with both EQ's in tandem (without even changing any frequency sliders) I got a MASSIVE boost in gain. This was not software.. it was hardware, because it did not 'compress' the sound to boost the volume like AGC (Automatic Gain Control) found in most audio players. Once I started messing with some of the eq curves (particularly in the parametric EQ) - it is by FAR the closest rival to V4A. In fact, I'd be plenty happy with this solution - IF It worked for all audio apps (Spotify in particular - or even TuneIn).
The biggest point here is V4A can boost the gain and doesn't decrease anything (compress) to get you the adjustments you're looking for on the EQ. The gain adjustment on this Parametric EQ does the same thing. Check it out and let me know how your results are. Really wish there were a way to pipe this through other applications.
That's awesome, good find!
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Audiophile question, Winca S160 -> extrenal Dac?

Hello people,
I'm new here (and to Android in general) so if this is the wrong part of the forum, I apologise.
I have a Winca S160 installed in a 2012 VW Tiguan – it’s generally OK, although I’m disappointed it can’t play FLAC audio files.
I’m a bit of an audiophile so about to invest in upgrading the speakers and adding a real amp to the car, however I’m still stuck with the source being a generic android tablet with very little consideration to sound quality…
(I know I could get a dedicated head unit but I need Waze and the parking camera)
So I’m thinking what if I got an external USB DAC (Schiit Modi 2, Fragonfly etc) and then connected the DAC’s outputs to the amplifier etc? That would supercharge the sound quality, no?
That way the S160 acts as a transport (basically a fancy hard drive for the music files), and sends bitstream to the DAC that then renders the music.
The question is that possible? I’m not too familiar with Android in general, but I know there are DACs that work with it.
So hypothetically, if I added a USB dac, will it then act as the soundcard for the S160 and send all sounds through the DAC? Will this mean I could still use the steering controls to change the volume, skip tracks etc? Is it possible to do? Do you see a problem with this?
Any thoughts or ideas are welcome, thank you!
Mouse123 said:
Hello people,
I'm new here (and to Android in general) so if this is the wrong part of the forum, I apologise.
I have a Winca S160 installed in a 2012 VW Tiguan – it’s generally OK, although I’m disappointed it can’t play FLAC audio files.
I’m a bit of an audiophile so about to invest in upgrading the speakers and adding a real amp to the car, however I’m still stuck with the source being a generic android tablet with very little consideration to sound quality…
(I know I could get a dedicated head unit but I need Waze and the parking camera)
So I’m thinking what if I got an external USB DAC (Schiit Modi 2, Fragonfly etc) and then connected the DAC’s outputs to the amplifier etc? That would supercharge the sound quality, no?
That way the S160 acts as a transport (basically a fancy hard drive for the music files), and sends bitstream to the DAC that then renders the music.
The question is that possible? I’m not too familiar with Android in general, but I know there are DACs that work with it.
So hypothetically, if I added a USB dac, will it then act as the soundcard for the S160 and send all sounds through the DAC? Will this mean I could still use the steering controls to change the volume, skip tracks etc? Is it possible to do? Do you see a problem with this?
Any thoughts or ideas are welcome, thank you!
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I just installed the winca s310 and the audio is normal which is not very satisfying to be honest and still searching for a way to fix that.

Limit the max sample rate to 48kHz?

Hi, is there a way of limiting the sample rate to 48kHz in Android 10 (AOSP Rom)?
I'm using a USB-C to headphone dongle and according to the developer, Viper4Android doesn't support a sample rate greater than 48kHz, so my current driver status is abnormal. Note that my bluetooth headphones work fine.
In system/etc, I have a audio_policy.conf, but not an audio_policy_configuration.xml ( https://source.android.com/devices/audio/implement-policy )
Any alternative ways of limiting the sample rate would be much appreciated.
The mixer in Android downsamples everything to 44100Hz anyway, so that is probably not the issue.
It won't ever go past the above value other than the case where you use an application that creates a pass-through between the DAC (whether that is the internal one by Qualcomm or an external dongle one) and the output, thus offering bitperfect quality
Dariusdd said:
The mixer in Android downsamples everything to 44100Hz anyway, so that is probably not the issue.
It won't ever go past the above value other than the case where you use an application that creates a pass-through between the DAC (whether that is the internal one by Qualcomm or an external dongle one) and the output, thus offering bitperfect quality
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Thanks for your response - do you have any other ideas why viper doesn't work?
Absolutely none, it's old and unmaintained as far as I remember. I am unsure of the compatibility of the newer fork of it as well. Good luck getting it to work
I mean you can try jdsp
Yeah James DSP does work actually, but it's missing a few features. It seems the only way of fixing this issue is using a passive headphone adapter, which aren't that common on amazon at least.

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