Deciding between the Moto X 2014 and the Nexus 6. I have a preference for the larger screen of the Nexus 6, but also like the idea of the Motorola Value Added Software (Touchless, Car Mode, Moto Voice, etc). Nexus 6 doesn't run this software. Looking for current Moto X 2014 owners to give me their impression of how important/useful the Motorola Suite of Value Added Software is, and how much weight I should give to this in my comparison/decision.
I know we will be a little biased, but you will get a near nexus/stock android experience on the moto X plus the extra useful features that are exclusive to moto devices. The active display notifications and touchless commands really make this a stellar device along with more than sufficient hardware.
The Active Display is great, I use it all the time. Even after the L update I disabled Google's new lock screen to use it instead. It's not as nice looking but the battery savings and ability to see notifications without touching the screen are great, plus it pretty much negates the entire need for the power button to wake it which is really convenient.
Not all of the features are quite as useful as that but I'm glad they're there. The car mode is cool if I get a text while driving as it reads it aloud without me needing to touch it.
moto display is just simply awesome, it's basically life changing from previous 2 phones past couple years:
iphone 4: had to press home button every time just to see if any notification(even jb and put on notification bar app with cydia)
moto g: light was on but i didn't know if it was email or actual text etc, so i still had to click the rocker or pick it up(gravity screen/xposed mod to get these, otherwise pressing power button again)(get like 20 email/day i just simply ignore most and just check once a day at the most)
now Moto x: just wave it or move my phone and see any messaging/call i miss
moto voice: i drive 10+hrs a week routinely and too lazy to put on music sometimes and just listen to musics on radio. I would call on the phone and just ask what music it is and pick it up later when i get back home etc. Without reaching my hand to phone feels alot safer. Send message with whatsapp needs a little simplified as reply or something to get it a little more useful
moto assist: text reading is not bad but i wish they do the same to fb messenger and whatsapp as well, that would be awesome
Active Display its godlike, i love that i just need to pass my hand over my phone to see notifications.
As first i didnt think i would use Voice Controls that much, but there are some situations when its just soo good. Driving, setting up alarms when on bed, etc...
Not to mention the hardware its pretty much top of the line, and the build quality too
But its the extra features that are the highlight of the phone, and what mskes it stand out of the oh so typical high end device
I bought the moto x for it voice control eventhough it isn't available in my language but it is very useful driving
Moto suite is the only reason I'm going to keep my Moto X and pass on the N6. It's that important to me. It changes how I use a phone now and I know I would miss it if I didn't have it. The first time you're in the shower and a phone call or a text comes in and you can have a full conversation with either without having to touch your phone. It's incredible.
Looks like most (so far) find these features more useful than I first thought. Special thanks to those who are putting in detailed impressions (I just pressed the "Thanks Button" for you ). Any further impressions are deeply appreciated!
If the moto specific features are the only thing holding you back from getting a Nexus 6, then go for the nexus 6 you won't miss them all that much as the nexus 6 now has some sort of replacement features via ambient display and always on google now.
I got the moto x considering its price, size and the extra features, fast updates. But in your case I'd recommend the N6 if the price and size aren't a problem
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i just picked up a palm pre the 1st day it came out.witch was the 6th of this month. this is only my opinion oky guys.
Cons :
- no 3rd party apps (yet)
- the alarm sucks but i can say its a lot better then stock alarm for ppc
- the keypad is not as good looking and feeling as the htc ppc(6800-pro)
- no micro sd slot
- cant record videos only takes PIC
- no onscreen keyboard
-- no reset button.(so if you freeze the phone you have to take off the cover and the battery to reset it.)
-- cant do one hand slide to get the keyboard out and need to also touch the screen and help it move up to get the keyboard out.
-- battery life sucks with brightness all the way up and lots of usage it last me 1 to 2 hours only.
-- you cant save a file from the net.(i made a ring tone online and send it to my phone it it wont d.l. the ringtone)
-- you can make ring tones on line but only transfer it from your comp to the phone
-- only 3 slides to hold your apps and other icons.( it just get longer down the more you add )
-- copy and past is harder to do. to many steps
-- typing is a bit hard bc its not to conformable to hold and type.
-- takes a long time to charge to full if empty about 1 hour and 30 mins
-- cant change txt tone or any thing ( only ring tones and to contact ring tones )
-- carrying case that come with the PHONE sucks.and if you buy one it will run you around 30 to 60 bucks. but i use my HTC 6900 case for it fit perfect.
-- the phone get hot when charging or using the phone
-- no led lights (can be good or bad if u like the led lights to show if bt is on and the flash like on some htc phone)
-- -- for more info on the phone go to you tube and type in palm pre.( there is LOTS of video of the phone and comparing )
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Pros :
- faster then ppc(htc 6800-pro-6900)
- i can have like 5 to 8 program running and wont be as lagy as the ppc(u can have up to like 3 programs running on some ppc and it be super lagy and have to close it out)to make it run faster
- i like the look of it better look more high tech
- the graphic is great.bright colors and the image seem to look like if u was looking at it on a lap top or desk top
- 8 gb of rom (7GB user available)
- Headphone jack is the 3.5mm size
- love the Touchstone Charging Dock(wireless charger for your phone)
-- you can reset the phone (not freeze) by going to the home screen and go to the palm icon and reset your phone from there(they give you 3 options to choose hard reset, semi hard reset, and reset.)
-- camera works great a lot better then ppc 6800 - pro must of the ppc phone.
-- google maps and sprint nav works and looks a lot better then htc and other ppc phones
-- you can save up to lots of book marks on your phone right now i have 18 book mark with pictures to show what they are.(internet)
-- speaker and call volume is super loud
-- blue tooth connects fast and well. quality is oky bc i have a cheap one only for 20 bucks but i can say it connects and detect it fast.
-- the touchstone wireless charger is amazing no more plugging up the phone unless you are connecting it to your desktop or laptop.
-- it have a auto sensor (kind of like the G Sensor for htc pro) where if you are on the phone it auto turn off the screen and when u move it away from your ear it comes back on and when u put it back it turns off its amazing.
-- they added some cool apps
HTML:
http://www.palm.com/us/products/phones/pre/pre-mobile-applications.html
-- emailing is THE BEST for this PHONE. nothing out there can win when it comes to emailing (yahoo works best) bc you cant get it the instant the sender send it. the others like gmail or hotmail you can set up time for it to check.
-- there is a switch for the phone to put the phone on vibrate or turn the phone off.(on tope of the phone)
-- for more info on the phone go to you tube and type in palm pre.( there is LOTS of video of the phone and comparing )
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that is it guys i think that that is enough info n must of the stuff that we need to know about the phone. pm me if you guys want more info on have question .
[email protected]
Thanks!
Can you post some pics or videos?
Cheers,
Yeah, I played around with it and liked it for a couple reasons and didn't for a couple as well.
The keyboard is not as good as the Pro. And the 8GB makes no sense to me. Every phone should have a Micro SD slot!
I did really like the web browsing. Similar to the iPhone in the sense that it works like going to a real web page and you can easily make it bigger with the 2 finger trick like the iPhone. I will wait and see what others say for a few months before deciding. My Pro lags a bit too much and causes a problem with my yahoo email. Plus it's very bulky unlike the Pre which is very slim and nice.
I'd certainly be willing to give Palm Pre a try later, when there're enough applications, when there is a GSM version (rather than CDMA) available. I hope the second generation has bigger screen and storage. Also hope they release a version without keyboard 'cos I do'nt like physical keyboard (too slow and too limiting and forcing you to only use it in portrait mode. I want the ability to use lots of versions and different layout depending on needs, such as for foreign language input/handwriting) I think it gives iPhone a good run for it's money from the look of it. So, will be keeping an eye on this baby. Like your comment on the speed depsite multitasking so many applications. Great feedback.
Think you meant 8gb of ROM
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Think you meant 8gb of ROM
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yes thank you ...... !!!!!
eaglesteve said:
I'd certainly be willing to give Palm Pre a try later, when there're enough applications, when there is a GSM version (rather than CDMA) available. I hope the second generation has bigger screen and storage. Also hope they release a version without keyboard 'cos I do'nt like physical keyboard (too slow and too limiting and forcing you to only use it in portrait mode. I want the ability to use lots of versions and different layout depending on needs, such as for foreign language input/handwriting) I think it gives iPhone a good run for it's money from the look of it. So, will be keeping an eye on this baby. Like your comment on the speed depsite multitasking so many applications. Great feedback.
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thank you im trying to tell you guys on how i see it.coming from a HTC lover.
but i can say that i do like the pre also. and i think i will keep the pre untill HTC come up with a GREATER PHONE with multitasking.
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Yeah, I played around with it and liked it for a couple reasons and didn't for a couple as well.
The keyboard is not as good as the Pro. And the 8GB makes no sense to me. Every phone should have a Micro SD slot!
I did really like the web browsing. Similar to the iPhone in the sense that it works like going to a real web page and you can easily make it bigger with the 2 finger trick like the iPhone. I will wait and see what others say for a few months before deciding. My Pro lags a bit too much and causes a problem with my yahoo email. Plus it's very bulky unlike the Pre which is very slim and nice.
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yes the pre should have came with a micro sd slot.that is one of the biggest mistake that they did. and with yahoo email you will LOVE IT bc i have 4 yahoo email account one for personal use other for registering and so on so on.
and when i get a new email it SHOW up on my phone the instent i receive it from the sender its GREAT for emailing GREAT...
To reset the phone without removing the back and the battery do the following.
Hold down the power button and toggle the ringer switch 4 times.
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To reset the phone without removing the back and the battery do the following.
Hold down the power button and toggle the ringer switch 4 times.
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i try it but it didnt work just say turn off / airplane mode ??
Good feedback.
I just bought one on Friday.
The battery thing is a major problem IMO, I charged it all night untill noon the next day, by six the phone was almost dead, BOGUS. Palm is supposed to have a replacement battery coming out very soon. Gonna argue I want one for free.
LET ME PUT MY OWN TEXT TONES!!!
DEFINITELY need an on-screen keyboard.
IMO the speaker could be twice as loud.
Yeah the stinkin thing gets HOT.
Buy the wireless charging doc, using the plug is a PITA.
Web pages load nice and smooth for me, better than the Iphone IMO. The Iphone was always freezing up on me, even with general apps. The Pre is nice and light, although I'm coming from a brick they call an HTC Tilt so anything would probably be lighter. Very bright, clear screen, this I like. I don't need an SD slot, why would I ever fill up 7 gigs on a phone?
Overall I'm content so far.
BEST PART so far, I got drunk the night I bought it and was callin it the Palm Tree.
i like how the pre looks but i love WM
Video of Pre
A video here of how its working on GSM in Vietnam!
http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/...ht-playing-with-gsm-sim-in-vietnam/#continued
On my friends Moto X 2014 when he gets a text missed call etc it shows up on the display. It will start to appear then disappear until you swipe it away. Will the Nexus 6 also do this? All this without even touching the phone.
Not that I have seen. Hopefully when enough developers get their hands on the device, we will start seeing some useful mods. Just give it time.
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On my friends Moto X 2014 when he gets a text missed call etc it shows up on the display. It will start to appear then disappear until you swipe it away. Will the Nexus 6 also do this? All this without even touching the phone.
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that sounds exactly like ambient display.. no?
If you want an app that's nearly identical use dynamic notifications. That's as close as you're going to get to moto display without having moto display.
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On my friends Moto X 2014 when he gets a text missed call etc it shows up on the display. It will start to appear then disappear until you swipe it away. Will the Nexus 6 also do this? All this without even touching the phone.
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The Nexus 6 comes with ambient display. When you get a notification it will display you the message and disappear within like 3 seconds. Also of you pick up the device, it will also display the notifications without turning on the screen similar to the Moto X.
You can even say "OK Google" when the screen is off across the room and activate Google Now without ever touching the device.
Given that the architecture is similar to the 2014 X & practically the same as the Droid Turbo, it should be feasible to port it to the N6 IMHO...
I wanted something more durable especially when it comes to water and since I was switching to AT&T the Active was an obvious choice. I've had the phone for a few days now and I'm really pleased with it, especially the camera and battery life. The first day I had almost 4 hours of screen on time which was close to full brightness and still had over 40% battery left. I thought that had to be a fluke or something but it's clearly not. Now to the point of my post, why is this phone not very popular? Why anyone would choose the regular S6 over the Active is beyond me. Does anyone think we'll ever see root on this phone? I'm very pleased with it out of the box but there's a few things I'd love root for. Like why does there have to be a persistent notification telling me I'm connected to wifi. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I couldn't believe it couldn't be turned off.
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I wanted something more durable especially when it comes to water and since I was switching to AT&T the Active was an obvious choice. I've had the phone for a few days now and I'm really pleased with it, especially the camera and battery life. The first day I had almost 4 hours of screen on time which was close to full brightness and still had over 40% battery left. I thought that had to be a fluke or something but it's clearly not. Now to the point of my post, why is this phone not very popular? Why anyone would choose the regular S6 over the Active is beyond me. Does anyone think we'll ever see root on this phone? I'm very pleased with it out of the box but there's a few things I'd love root for. Like why does there have to be a persistent notification telling me I'm connected to wifi. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I couldn't believe it couldn't be turned off.
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What are some of your cons for the device?
I've heard various things about it, such as there's some faint line down the side of the screen on most all models.
Some people claim that the speak on speaker call sucks.
etc etc. Anything you don't really like about the phone that could be most people's gripe about it?
Mine works great. Nothing to complain about...
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I wanted something more durable especially when it comes to water and since I was switching to AT&T the Active was an obvious choice. I've had the phone for a few days now and I'm really pleased with it, especially the camera and battery life. The first day I had almost 4 hours of screen on time which was close to full brightness and still had over 40% battery left. I thought that had to be a fluke or something but it's clearly not. Now to the point of my post, why is this phone not very popular? Why anyone would choose the regular S6 over the Active is beyond me. Does anyone think we'll ever see root on this phone? I'm very pleased with it out of the box but there's a few things I'd love root for. Like why does there have to be a persistent notification telling me I'm connected to wifi. That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen. I couldn't believe it couldn't be turned off.
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First, fingerprint sensor. I need security but entering pin/code every time I wanted to unlock the phone was cumbersome.
Second, is availability at the time of purchase. It wasn't apparently available with carriers in Canada.
Third, popularity, and community development and support. Galaxy s6 has more users, and therefore, more developers working on its rom.
Fourth, availability of accessories due to Galaxy S6 owner population vs Active.
I can overlook all other points, but missing the fingerprint sensor was a deal breaker for me.
For me, the lack of a fingerprint scanner isn't a deal-breaker. I guess I'm 'old school' or something. Though I understand the convenience of it.
I'm on the edge of picking up this phone, but, kind of worried about what type of specs the S7 Active will have and will it be worth the wait.
Currently with the S6 Active, my concerns are:
No Root (not a deal breaker)
Slowness of AT&T updates (not a deal breaker if ODIN is reliable and we can get timely firmware updates outside of AT&T)
Length of time it's taking to get to Marshmellow
Quality of speaker and using the speaker phone (I've heard that it's not too hot)
Lack of accessories (agree with you on this, doesn't seem a lot out there)
What I don't like about S6 Active:
Placement of the audio jack port. Really should be on the bottom, like the S6
No expandable memory option
No removable battery option (Not really a deal breaker if the battery has no issues and will remain effective for at least 3-4 years.)
Not enough bands to support international carriers and carrier aggregation support to the fullest by having as many bands possible (Not really a deal breaker, as I'll get a few where I am).
Touch-Wiz. Rather to to some stock android OS rather than have all the crap on the phone. (relates to having a root)
But beyond all of the above, the phone looks really really nice and I'll likely pick it up anyways, for lack of anything better, IMO.
I was thinking Nexus 6P, but it's just too big for me.
Nexus 5X, just kinda of too weak for me. (has less bands than Nexus 6P, actually)
I was thinking just a regular S6, but like the Active design better.
Just bought one,for durability, came from the V10 and loving it so far.
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Well, I picked up this phone(64GB Version). Got it to update to 5.1.1.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but this phone is simply beautiful.
The weighting and feel is also very very nice.
It's a quite zippy and fast phone.
So far, on the whole I'm liking this phone alot.
However some points I've come across. Any suggestions or resolutions welcome.
Minor Dislikes:
Forced to see carrier's name on top-left of lock screen (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I'd prefer to see useful icons on the status bar(left-hand side) during the phone being locked.
Notifications Management
└ In order to remove Heads UP notifications, I've had to download an application like: HeadsOff└ Some applications, in order to see the icon in the status bar, the rectangular static notification remains on the lock screen, wasting screen real-estate. There's no way to remove this static notification from the lock screen without adjusting the settings to remove notifications from the app, and then that removes the icon in the status bar.└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active
Headphone Jack Location (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I still don't see why phone makers are putting the jack at the top of the phone. Many people put their phone in their pocket. The natural insertion direction is the way one is holding it at the time of use, the top goes into the pocket first. Yet if the audio cable/jack is jutting out from the top, it makes it hard to put in the pocket, as well as decreases the life of the cable, etc. (not a deal-breaker, but an annoyance for sure)
Touchscreen SUPER sensitive
└ I've found that the screen is simply overly sensitive to touch and find myself many times mistakenly activating something else, before my finger even touches the screen.└ Currently I do not have a screen protector for the phone, so not sure this will matter.
Other's Pain points:
Speaker Location/Quality
└ While the speaker isn't in the best of locations, I haven't really noticed and sound degradation/quality. It's a mini speaker. We can't expect blasting Dolby 7.1 haha
Active Key easy to press accidently
└ I have not found any problem with this, and I typically don't encounter having this button activated unintentionally with my day to day use.└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active
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Well, I picked up this phone(64GB Version). Got it to update to 5.1.1.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but this phone is simply beautiful.
The weighting and feel is also very very nice.
It's a quite zippy and fast phone.
So far, on the whole I'm liking this phone alot.
However some points I've come across. Any suggestions or resolutions welcome.
Minor Dislikes:
Forced to see carrier's name on top-left of lock screen (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I'd prefer to see useful icons on the status bar(left-hand side) during the phone being locked.
Notifications Management
└ In order to remove Heads UP notifications, I've had to download an application like: HeadsOff└ Some applications, in order to see the icon in the status bar, the rectangular static notification remains on the lock screen, wasting screen real-estate. There's no way to remove this static notification from the lock screen without adjusting the settings to remove notifications from the app, and then that removes the icon in the status bar.└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active
Headphone Jack Location (Not just specific to this phone)
└ I still don't see why phone makers are putting the jack at the top of the phone. Many people put their phone in their pocket. The natural insertion direction is the way one is holding it at the time of use, the top goes into the pocket first. Yet if the audio cable/jack is jutting out from the top, it makes it hard to put in the pocket, as well as decreases the life of the cable, etc. (not a deal-breaker, but an annoyance for sure)
Touchscreen SUPER sensitive
└ I've found that the screen is simply overly sensitive to touch and find myself many times mistakenly activating something else, before my finger even touches the screen.└ Currently I do not have a screen protector for the phone, so not sure this will matter.
Other's Pain points:
Speaker Location/Quality
└ While the speaker isn't in the best of locations, I haven't really noticed and sound degradation/quality. It's a mini speaker. We can't expect blasting Dolby 7.1 haha
Active Key easy to press accidently
└ I have not found any problem with this, and I typically don't encounter having this button activated unintentionally with my day to day use.└ Some applications like Accu Radio won't show the player controls on the lock screen. No matter what combination of notification settings are used. (Not really the phone's fault but..)
Fingerprint Scanner Lacking
└ While the Active doesn't have a fingerprint button to scan fingerprint to unlock the phone, I thought Samsung had some models that used the actual screen to do this. If so, the option would be nice to have on the Active
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Add another dislike:
Samsung Touchwiz and how it handles, doesn't allow handling of LED definition.
Unfortunately, Samsung, in their infinite wisdom, have blown up their Touchwiz and made it virtually impossible for applications like Lightflow, to define custom LED colors for applications.
The best that can happen is that some 'workaround' by the author of Lightflow can be used, but that just leaves the Badges and Notifications icons on the status bar for you to clear out manually, after reading your email or messages.
Price to pay to have any control over LED.....
Just one more reason I want root....
So I'm coming from a 5X that had a nice RGB LED, I was able to set different colors for different apps and could tell from across the room what if any notifications I had - no need to look at it for more than a second or 2 or pick it up or anything. I could then respond accordingly: White - email, probably just spam ignore it; Green - text, get to it when not busy; Pink - tinder, drop the baby and run for the phone.
With the x4 I seem to have taken a step backwards - the screen lights up with the clock and an icon for whatever notification (but I have to be standing right by the phone to see the specific icon). But the bigger issue is it only lights up once when the notification comes in - I really don't need to know I have a notification when it comes in (I heard the chime or vibrate) but I would love to be able to walk away from my phone, glance at it and know if I missed anything without having to pick it up. I'm not sure a world where I have to move my phone every time I come back to it could be considered convenient.
From what I have seen online it described the phone has breathing (pulsing every now and then) when you have an active notification, but this was earlier Moto models - I get just one notification at the time it comes in and nothing else ever. Unless I move the phone - which brings me to the 2nd issue, the sensitivity of the motion sensor, I can have the phone on my desk or couch cushion next to me and just placing a remote down near it or typing the phone is constantly lighting up (even when I don't have a notification) I have the Approach for Moto Display turned off and it definitely has to be moved, but just the tiniest of amount - I get the feature is designed for people that want to grab the phone to see the time and not have to turn it on, but there is a huge difference between the slight vibration from typing on a keyboard next to it vs. actually picking the thing up.
If Motorola/Lenovo is going to want people to embrace Moto Display at least make it so it isn't constantly flashing away for no reason.
Anyway are my experiences the norm? While I would love to be able to turn the motion sensor off for Moto Display my big issue is lack of persistent notification notifying without any interaction from me.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x4/themes/app-frontflash-notification-v1-7-t3740066
Yea, it's working "as intended". It was a poor choice really to disable the notification LED from the phone. I think it's fine on Amoled displays that can have the breathing without affecting battery life too much, but it's not the case here.
Although I generally like the high sensitivity of the Moto Display. I leave the aporoach feature disabled, and everytime I go by my phone when it's in a table or something I just push it slightly to check the notifications, it's way more convenient than to use the power button and gives more information than a RGB LED.
Thank you both, yes I did some more digging and seems like they did away with the 'breathing' feature.
I'll try that front flash app,
This whole thing just seems a little poorly thought out - disable the breathing so as not to reduce battery life, but make the user pickup the phone periodically which decreases battery life.
I get if they want to do something different than a notification LED but not everyone wants to pick up there phone every X minutes to see if they missed something.
Least I now know when it periodically turns on the Moto Display its not to remind of a current notification its just the stupid motion sensor being way to sensitive.
It is normal. In my opinion the Moto display on the new Moto are not as sensitive as older models like the Moto x pure. You were able to literally wave your hand over the screen to see notifications and time and battery level. However I still love the active display. But I also miss the notification light. But because of the active display they felt like their was no need for led notification. The Moto x4 is still a great handset with features that many people actually use like active display. I have used Samsung and Sony and lg and always had issues. Since the Moto x first came out and bought it I have never had issues with hardware or software. Sure the updates may take a lifetime however Motorola in my opinion is the bear handset for me in terms of quality. It helps tho that even with Android one or Nexus out their that Moto has almost near clean stock of Android than any other manufacturer.
I can see the argument for not needing a LED when MotoDisplay would 'breath' and periodically show the notifications, but now they have done away with that it seems like an LED would really help. That being said I am trying to adjust and get into the habit of nudging the phone when I come back to it.
Hi guys
I am currently using a Z5 since its release in September 2015. Now I want to buy a new device.
I think about buying the Xperia 10 but I am struggling a bit. How do you like this phone? Is it worth an "upgrade". What about performance? Is it comparable or even better than my Z5's?
My Z5 has stereo speakers in the front. The Xperia 10 has one speaker at the bottom. How does it sound like?
My Z5 got a new mainboard, camera and battery in 2017.
I like the fact that it has the fingerprint sensor on the side. I don't like it on the back.
Thanks for your advice.
Hey, I was just in your shoes. Unless your z5 is annoying you too much, I'd avoid getting this phone and wait for next gen. Here's my experience.
Had the z5c, and got fed up with slowing performance and battery life, and replaced camera lens last year (build up of film causing blurry images) only for it to require another replacement less then a year later again. I bought Xperia 10 and likely will trade up for a 5g phone within the year.
I can deal with the long length. But 21:9 is just unnecessary. I don't need cinematic Netflix experience on my phone. I don't like seeing black bars now on all YouTube videos since hardly anyone uploads into that ratio. I could enjoy the split screen but it's gotten complicated to activate in Pie.
I bought this phone because: price, side button unlock, familiar OS (which was not correct, Pie is way different). Here's what I can't get used to:
No longer simple to move current app into split screen (recent apps button removed in android Pie), no way to get do not disturb activated from volume rocker (must create and use a shortcut which is inconvenient when I'm in meetings), finger print sensor is no longer on power button (separate on Xperia 10) which leads to accidentally unlocking in my pocket if my hand in holding my phone, no longer possible to change long pressing home button to activate preferred Duckduckgo search.
I'm tolerating the phone. But I refuse to buy anything more expensive and don't like the girthy phones from nearly every other company. And not buying Apple (have an apple for work phone and hate it)
Hope this helps
roobs123 said:
Hey, I was just in your shoes. Unless your z5 is annoying you too much, I'd avoid getting this phone and wait for next gen. Here's my experience.
Had the z5c, and got fed up with slowing performance and battery life, and replaced camera lens last year (build up of film causing blurry images) only for it to require another replacement less then a year later again. I bought Xperia 10 and likely will trade up for a 5g phone within the year.
I can deal with the long length. But 21:9 is just unnecessary. I don't need cinematic Netflix experience on my phone. I don't like seeing black bars now on all YouTube videos since hardly anyone uploads into that ratio. I could enjoy the split screen but it's gotten complicated to activate in Pie.
I bought this phone because: price, side button unlock, familiar OS (which was not correct, Pie is way different). Here's what I can't get used to:
No longer simple to move current app into split screen (recent apps button removed in android Pie), no way to get do not disturb activated from volume rocker (must create and use a shortcut which is inconvenient when I'm in meetings), finger print sensor is no longer on power button (separate on Xperia 10) which leads to accidentally unlocking in my pocket if my hand in holding my phone, no longer possible to change long pressing home button to activate preferred Duckduckgo search.
I'm tolerating the phone. But I refuse to buy anything more expensive and don't like the girthy phones from nearly every other company. And not buying Apple (have an apple for work phone and hate it)
Hope this helps
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Thanks. I already decided to buy the Pixel 2 XL.