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Just wanted an update. One user said he was charged for tethering however that has never happened with me before, but I haven't tether in awhile. I have never been charged before.
Is anyone regularly tethering, and have you done it lately?
Please let me know as I'm going on a trip soon and being able to tether would be helpful, thanks!.
it is a risk
I tethered many many times over the course of about a full year, so I was shocked to see my tethering charge when it appeared. I had already tethered after that, before getting my bill for the month. I was only charged for it once, in one specific session. Don't think I did anything different. So, even if someone tells you they have never been charged, keep in mind that until it happened to me after a year, I would have told you don't worry about it. Now I NEVER EVER risk tethering.
The risk of being charged may be very small, but the charge you incur could be huge!
You can buy a 500MB monthly data plan for $25. I was charged 100 times that much for 1/3 the data!!!!
mfpreach said:
Just wanted an update. One user said he was charged for tethering however that has never happened with me before, but I haven't tether in awhile. I have never been charged before.
Is anyone regularly tethering, and have you done it lately?
Please let me know as I'm going on a trip soon and being able to tether would be helpful, thanks!.
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Thanks for the update.
When you have the Vogue connected and charging off a usb on a pc, it it automatically tethered when using Android?
I know that on WM, you actually specify that the phone will be used as a modem.
I downloaded some free apps on the Android market, so I hope I won't get dinged........
And what if you have unlimited data?
My package includes Unlimited mobile browsing. Does that change when I go from WM to Android?
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My package includes Unlimited mobile browsing. Does that change when I go from WM to Android?
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Nope I have that unlimited mobile browsing from bell and it works fine with android no additional costs (not sure about tethering I did it awhile ago and it was ok but have not done it lately)
Whew! Thanks for the quick reply. I was downloading some apps from the android store for the past 2 days, and I was playing around with the google map voice nav. All of a sudden, it occurred to me that I might get charged for this!
does anyone still tether with there vogue?
is it still undetectable? i know i used to tether with NFSFANS ROM and had no real problems
is there anything with android that could even report tethering?
i remember NFSFAN had to remove stuff from WM so bell couldnt detect it
also if tethering still good is pdanet a decent choice to do it with?
thanks
dude4 said:
does anyone still tether with there vogue?
is it still undetectable? i know i used to tether with NFSFANS ROM and had no real problems
is there anything with android that could even report tethering?
i remember NFSFAN had to remove stuff from WM so bell couldnt detect it
also if tethering still good is pdanet a decent choice to do it with?
thanks
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The thing about PDAnet(the software component that's part of NFSFAN ROM) was that it was designed to mimic browsing through the phone even if you were actually tethering. That's why the providers can't charge you for tethering since bill you for tethering if all the data incurred was through your phone's browser.
The problem here with Android ROMs is no one has come forward to claim there is a PDAnet equivalent software available. If there isn't one then you have to assume that the providers can catch you when you try to tether. Don't take the risk until there's an official way of hiding tethering activity.
You can use PDAnet for Android...it works fine.
I've been tethering using the stock wireless tether app that's in most Android ROMS. No charges... yet.
No problems
I use Pay as you Go for my vogue, with $10/month unlimited browsing.
This only applies to CDMA devices.
I have tethered a lot with no charges yet.
I use about 500 meg - 1 gig per month on my phone. (streaming radio)
So for $120/year I have unlimited use of my Vogue Android anywhere and can tether my laptop on the road.
dude4 said:
does anyone still tether with there vogue?
is it still undetectable? i know i used to tether with NFSFANS ROM and had no real problems
is there anything with android that could even report tethering?
i remember NFSFAN had to remove stuff from WM so bell couldnt detect it
also if tethering still good is pdanet a decent choice to do it with?
thanks
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This is pretty much why I am still using NFSFAN's rom. Tethering with the unlimited browser plan is key for me, and NFSFAN went through the trouble to encrypt the data. I was hoping after all these years, the same could be said about Android.
nbrennan said:
I use Pay as you Go for my vogue, with $10/month unlimited browsing.
This only applies to CDMA devices.
I have tethered a lot with no charges yet.
I use about 500 meg - 1 gig per month on my phone. (streaming radio)
So for $120/year I have unlimited use of my Vogue Android anywhere and can tether my laptop on the road.
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Are you with Bell? Do you use any apps to encrypt the data?
I'm running chromatic and as of 3 this morning tmobile is blocking my tether. Has this happened to anyone else yet? They want to upsell me to add tethering for 15 more a month and it still has the 5gb cap (Total BS) The built in wired tether and pdanet both aren't working, don't know about wifi tether yet but I'm assuming its blocked too. I found some posts by some g2 users this has happened to. Any one else? I'm glad im paying $30 for "unlimited" data. Aholes.
Thanks!
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Wireless tether aka wifi tether for rooted phones from code.google.com should still work. I've seen other reports of such blocks with market programs.
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They popped me last night. G1 rooted running wifi tether for root users and pdanet. This sucks REALLY bad.
im using tether now to be on xda and facebook. im in new mexico and the only message ive gotten from tmoblie was there were slowing my download speeds for hitting my cap with unlimited data plan lol.
I have a rooted G1, and I usually use wifi-tether or Barnacle. Tried PDANet as well.
I've received 8 text-messages from Tmobile regarding my tethering being blocked. Odd thing was, I was streaming pandora-radio on the phone during a long car drive (~5 hours) while these things beeped away at me. I had tethered earlier for a few minutes to check my gmail.
Later when I tried to tether to check my email, any http requests direct me to an upsell message. However, Remote-desktop still works, FTP still works, and most everything except plain webpages work. Tmobile is asking $15/mo for 200MB of data, with $0.10/MB overage charges ontop of your 10GB "unlimited" plan.
I'm unsure of how they detect tethering. It seems to be based off of bandwidth usage, as there's no way for them to discern whether this is phone traffic or laptop traffic. The other thing that could be a possible giveaway is the number of connections that are open. I'd imagine the laptop has a few things open for windows update, msn messenger and who knows what, whereas the phone has Browser and Lattitude.
Regardless, this is balls.
user agent string
If they are blocking web browser traffic, but not other TCP/IP services like FTP or remote desktop, there's a chance they are fingerprinting non-phone web requests by looking at the user agent string. An interesting test would be whether or not you're able to still make HTTPS-only requests with the web browser on your desktop or laptop. It would take some evil hackery for them to be able to retrieve the user agent string from an HTTPS request.
See 14.43 of the HTTP 1.1 spec for a description of the user agent string.
Got around it by setting up an openvpn on cyanogen 6.1.0. Even if im not using tethering, im still gonna use openvpn for my data traffic, as they are probably using deep packet inspection, which means we no longer have any privacy on tmobiles network.
Im thinking about changing the default port to 443 so as far as they are concerned, im just browsing ssl sites on my phone (port 443 is the default ssl port for web browsing and openvpn uses ssl for encryption).
If you use this method, just be sure to reset you dns to to googles (8.8.8.8) otherwise they can still tell whether or not your tethering based on my experience.
Im seriously considering switching to sprint as i would actually be willing to pay for their tethering, i get 4g in my area and i have a lot of respect for sprint for not capping their 4g.
Maybe if tmobile offered more bandwidth or other features for their 15 bucks a month I would actually be willing to pay for it, but i AM NOT paying for data that I allready paid for. Data is data to them, my cap isnt changing, why should i pay more to pipe my data to my computer.
Correct me if I'm wrong but tethering for $15 essentially removes the 5gb throttled cap. Its the same as Sprint and their $10 fee. The 200mb plan is just a lower tier.
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An interesting test would be whether or not you're able to still make HTTPS-only requests with the web browser on your desktop or laptop. It would take some evil hackery for them to be able to retrieve the user agent string from an HTTPS request.
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Https to mail.google.com works just fine!
funkeee said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but tethering for $15 essentially removes the 5gb throttled cap. Its the same as Sprint and their $10 fee. The 200mb plan is just a lower tier.
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last time I was working the tmobile call-center for T3DS (spring 2010), the cap was 10GB. Although, that was nearly a year ago now. Samson had a lil' checkbox for "throttled" that was enabled at 10GB. perhaps a year and a half ago, maybe two now, they had disabled tethering previousy system-wide. Although back then I had a Motorola Krzr with no data, so I really had no clue what was affected.
The $15 thing is to enable tethering. two days ago it was offering me something around 40-50 dollars for "unlimited" (atop the $30 i pay for unlimited data), and $15 for 200MB (atop of the $30 i play for unlimited data). Of course, you must have a data-plan already in place. Looking at it again today, the page is different. It presents me with a mini terms of service, a button to add this package to my plan to enable tethering. No mention or word of cost.
And, visiting my.tmobile.com like it suggests... there's nothing on the official Tmobile website that I can find for the tethering package.
So, being the typical t-mo customer that I am, I called up the 1-800 number to whine and complain. I mostly want these annoying text-messages to stop. The rep said he could add on the tethering package for me, but I declined. He also offered to hand this over to his buisness group to see if these messages are being sent out in error.
TLDR: If I have to pay $85/mo minimum for smartphone with tethering abilities, i'd rather just give Verizon a call.
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Got around it by setting up an openvpn on cyanogen 6.1.0. Even if im not using tethering, im still gonna use openvpn for my data traffic, as they are probably using deep packet inspection, which means we no longer have any privacy on tmobiles network.
Im thinking about changing the default port to 443 so as far as they are concerned, im just browsing ssl sites on my phone (port 443 is the default ssl port for web browsing and openvpn uses ssl for encryption).
If you use this method, just be sure to reset you dns to to googles (8.8.8.8) otherwise they can still tell whether or not your tethering based on my experience.
Im seriously considering switching to sprint as i would actually be willing to pay for their tethering, i get 4g in my area and i have a lot of respect for sprint for not capping their 4g.
Maybe if tmobile offered more bandwidth or other features for their 15 bucks a month I would actually be willing to pay for it, but i AM NOT paying for data that I allready paid for. Data is data to them, my cap isnt changing, why should i pay more to pipe my data to my computer.
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I've never successfully set up openvpn before, could you assist with this? Or is there a guide you recommend for beginners?
work around
was cut off last night.
tried the "user agent switcher" plugin for firefox to see if they are blocking browsers rather than the tethering itself.
With limited testing, i found several agents that work. iphone 3.0 to name one... Now to figure a way to keep the web looking nice using these agents.
I just received my first text warning and was cut off immediately....the 5gig throttle was already a huge kick to my nuts...now they want me to pay to tether and still be under the same cap?! I hit 5gigs WITHOUT tether...I really don't know how tmo expects to keep any smartphone customers like this...
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The solution to this is very easy;
EVERYBODY needs to call up tmobile and tell them that you were NOT tethering, but changed the USER AGENT ON YOUR PHONE in order to make websites actually work since douchebag websites read that the user agent is for MOBILE and send you to their crippled mobile websites.
dhkr123 said:
The solution to this is very easy;
EVERYBODY needs to call up tmobile and tell them that you were NOT tethering, but changed the USER AGENT ON YOUR PHONE in order to make websites actually work since douchebag websites read that the user agent is for MOBILE and send you to their crippled mobile websites.
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Well... You can call them all you like. Previously working for a tmobile call-center, I can assure you little will be done. If I received the call, I would be opening up samson and checking your usage history. The billing system logs just about every bit of data transfered, although I cant remember if it lists URL's anymore. I would suggest telling them that you were tethering, decline on the upsell offer of the tethering package because you feel your "unlimited data" package actually means unlimited, then you can also tell them that it is interfering with the phones operation by itself even when you arnt tethering, and request some sort of further troubleshooting/ticket creation.
If you say you arnt tethering, but DID tether, we could usually see judging by how many connections were initiated over a period of time... There's only so much an android phone can do at once. Regardless, as a data/tech rep, the next step would be filing a network trouble-ticket and putting in your information for an "engineer" to review over. Theres little (if not nothing) for the follow-up/callback process. At this point I would be telling you an engineer/tech would review over it, and try to end the call by up-selling you a newer phone.
TLDR: Unless things have changed in the past year, You will only talk to customer-care rep's, and have no chance of getting your concerns to those who have any power over these decisions. However if you do call in, please be polite and patient with the rep. I've called in and informed them that these are being erroneously generated, and they've taken the time to make a ticket for me. (they were, I got 8 of the damned things while listening to pandora on my phone)
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Well... You can call them all you like. Previously working for a tmobile call-center, I can assure you little will be done.
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Not for a single call, but if EVERYBODY called and complained about it, it WOULD be dealt with.
If I received the call, I would be opening up samson and checking your usage history. The billing system logs just about every bit of data transfered, although I cant remember if it lists URL's anymore.
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Go ahead and check the usage history. A smartphone is capable of generating EXACTLY the same data use as a tethered computer.
I would suggest telling them that you were tethering, decline on the upsell offer of the tethering package because you feel your "unlimited data" package actually means unlimited, then you can also tell them that it is interfering with the phones operation by itself even when you arnt tethering, and request some sort of further troubleshooting/ticket creation.
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And that is EXACTLY what you do NOT want to do, because as soon as you do that, all discussion is over.
If you say you arnt tethering, but DID tether, we could usually see judging by how many connections were initiated over a period of time...
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That might have been the case in years gone by, but no longer.
There's only so much an android phone can do at once.
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Huh? The limiting factor here is the NETWORK, not the hardware. It is TRIVIAL to open up dozens of connections for lots of different services on lots of different servers. Just because it is beyond YOU does not mean that **I** can't do it.
Regardless, as a data/tech rep, the next step would be filing a network trouble-ticket and putting in your information for an "engineer" to review over. Theres little (if not nothing) for the follow-up/callback process. At this point I would be telling you an engineer/tech would review over it, and try to end the call by up-selling you a newer phone.
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And once that request has been filed, you don't think that statistics will be run on the nature of the various requests? 200 thousand complaints about this nonsense knocking out normal phone data traffic, you don't think that would be noticed?
TLDR: Unless things have changed in the past year, You will only talk to customer-care rep's, and have no chance of getting your concerns to those who have any power over these decisions. However if you do call in, please be polite and patient with the rep. I've called in and informed them that these are being erroneously generated, and they've taken the time to make a ticket for me. (they were, I got 8 of the damned things while listening to pandora on my phone)
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As I've said, numbers talk. I certainly don't advocate calling up and threatening anyone, but if the numbers are overwhelming, then corrective actions MUST be taken.
Please look at my post regarding T-mobile tethering
[/COLOR]I'm pretty sure I know what T-Mobile did.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26649587#post26649587
OK. I have a 5 line family account on T-Moibile, with the 5th line currently not in use. Its data plan is considered a "smartphone" data plan. Now, my friend just purchaced a Streak7 and I want to put it on that 5th line. He put the sim card in, the Streak can recive text messages, but no internet (keep being redirected to MyTMobile). Called up TMo CS, they said that I cant use that line with a tablet, I have to add a 6th line onto my account as a tablet line. My question is, is it possible to trick the Streak into using the sim card I have for data? I really dont want to have to pay another 60 bucks on top of the over 200 I already pay .
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OK. I have a 5 line family account on T-Moibile, with the 5th line currently not in use. Its data plan is considered a "smartphone" data plan. Now, my friend just purchaced a Streak7 and I want to put it on that 5th line. He put the sim card in, the Streak can recive text messages, but no internet (keep being redirected to MyTMobile). Called up TMo CS, they said that I cant use that line with a tablet, I have to add a 6th line onto my account as a tablet line. My question is, is it possible to trick the Streak into using the sim card I have for data? I really dont want to have to pay another 60 bucks on top of the over 200 I already pay .
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Nope, you have to get a broadband plan. I'm using the $30 plan, which provides 200 Mb of high speed and thereafter EDGE speeds (no limit). I don't use it for much away from WiFi - just traffic and email, basically. I've not gone over 120Mb per month.
EDIT: Note that if you already own the S7, you DO NOT have to use a contract - the prices are the same. So I'm on a month-to-month plan.
Now, browsing the XDA forums, ive seen that folks with the Galaxy Tab can get this to work by hiding or deleting the "efs" folder on the root of the device. This causes the Tab to send a generic IMEI number to the carrier and gets it listed as a phone, not a tablet. Can something similar be done on the Streak?
I hope so,I would try it.
problem is, there is no EFS folder anywhere. And yes, it is rooted, we used Root Explorer to search.
if im not mistaken I think efs could also be stored deep in memory, where our unlock code is hidden
The streak, and likely streak 7 dont store device specific data that way I think (in /efs like samsung devices)
I assume the IMEI is stored in the same location as the Service tag. This area is a non-paritioned data structure in the nand. There are no tools to write to it, but obviously the rom itself can read from it.
The only known method if writing to it is via a jtag restore, which as there's no clean jtag dumps it just resets everything to 000000 and breaks a lot of stuff. Weither or not it can be written to without jtag, noone's bothered to document it. The unlocker tool likely reads out of this and that's how it works, but they obviously wouldnt freely give out the details or else you could do it yourself for free. Changing the IMEI is likely similar.
Also keep in mind changing the IMEI is ILLEGAL in most places, I would be surprised if XDA would allow talk of intentionally changing the IMEI. (Fixing after a bad wipe it is entirely different from intentionally changing it)
How about in case if I use a Unlocked DS7 on Non T-Mobile like ATT.
I believe in this case IMEI Change would not be required, but call functionality would be needed right?
How to enable Call Functionality in this case?
sorry to jump in guys, but basically your saying that I can't just take my existing sim (with data plan) from smartphone and put it in the DS7 and get internet/3G data? If so, is this true for all unlocked tablets, i.e. galaxy tab, HTC flyer, Huawei IDEOS S7, etc... thanks in advance, was planning on getting an unlocked tablet.
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sorry to jump in guys, but basically your saying that I can't just take my existing sim (with data plan) from smartphone and put it in the DS7 and get internet/3G data? If so, is this true for all unlocked tablets, i.e. galaxy tab, HTC flyer, Huawei IDEOS S7, etc... thanks in advance, was planning on getting an unlocked tablet.
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With T-Mobile it is certainly true. You can only use a broadband SIM card and plan. I don't know about other carriers with an unlocked S7.
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thanks steve for the info. then there's really no point in getting any 3G tablet unless u buy a separate tablet data plan, right? I'm with T-Mobile.
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thanks steve for the info. then there's really no point in getting any 3G tablet unless u buy a separate tablet data plan, right? I'm with T-Mobile.
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Yes. The reason for the 3G is to use when away from WiFi. It is nice to have the web connection when out and about.
If you already own the tablet you don't need to get a contract - so you can cancel anytime. The costs are the same. I'm on the $30 plan which nets 200 Mb, then slows down the data speed. I use mine with Wifi for a lot of my heavy duty surfing, and mostly use the 3G for google maps, email, etc. when out of the house.
If your phone supports tethering then you're still better off doing that.
Unless you have a small tab like a s7 then you'll likely be carrying a phone around too, with a small tab it's more situtational but it still applies. And as wifi tabs dont depend on carriers, they tend to update faster and more often.
If you're consistantly away from wifi and dont have your phone on you then yea this is a good use of a cell enabled tab, but otherwise it mainly means having a 2nd line on your account.
How often are you gonna bring it around without any other way of data?
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If your phone supports tethering then you're still better off doing that.
Unless you have a small tab like a s7 then you'll likely be carrying a phone around too, with a small tab it's more situtational but it still applies. And as wifi tabs dont depend on carriers, they tend to update faster and more often.
If you're consistantly away from wifi and dont have your phone on you then yea this is a good use of a cell enabled tab, but otherwise it mainly means having a 2nd line on your account.
How often are you gonna bring it around without any other way of data?
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You are correct of course. But there are other considerations. The screen on a 7 inch tablet is way bigger than my 4.3 inch HD2; Google maps is really nice on the larger screen. Also, tethering uses WiFi on both the phone and the tablet, causing both to deplete the battery faster. Last, T-Mobile phones ( or at last the ones I have had) do not support simultaneous voice and data. It is a matter of personal choice, needs, and cost.
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You cant do simultanious voice and data? That's strange.
On the battery issue, apparently from what i've heard the s7 isnt particularly amazing in that department. Using wifi is still cheaper then 3g for battery, it's a bit more balanced out by draining both devices less vs draining one quickly.
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You cant do simultanious voice and data? That's strange.
On the battery issue, apparently from what i've heard the s7 isnt particularly amazing in that department. Using wifi is still cheaper then 3g for battery, it's a bit more balanced out by draining both devices less vs draining one quickly.
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I forgot to mention the last one : My S7 is much more efficient in 3g mode than when connected via WiFi. The battery lasts much longer. But yes, the battery is not good. Supposedly the upgrade to honeycomb will help with this.
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I'll just have to take your word for it then as I dont actually own a s7, but the normal case is (depending on the usage) wifi is more efficient because it can finish downloading and idle faster.
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I'll just have to take your word for it then as I dont actually own a s7, but the normal case is (depending on the usage) wifi is more efficient because it can finish downloading and idle faster.
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I hope I was clear. WiFi is faster data transfer, but the battery lasts longer on 3G only. The thing that uses the battery is the WiFi modem, which does not idle. One can adjust settings to turn it off when the screen is off, but otherwise it runs all the time - unless you want to manually turn it off and on.
Also, i forgot to mention that the S7 won't connect WiFi to an"ad hoc" device. Some cellphones make their teathering that way. My HD2 won't work with the S7 for this reason. I have heard that some cellphones will work.
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What OS are you using on your HD2? I assume it's some build of android, CM7 mabye?
Yea the Streak family (S5/S7/Venue) dont do ad-hoc connections, but at least the S5 can tether in AP mode and not ad-hoc mode. If I had a S7 it would be able to wifi tether that way. just throwin out my 2ยข.
I cant check 100% but I beleve at least the S5 on wifi disables cell data on 2.2.x. For a brief moment when it's connecting to the AP both the wifi and cell data icons are visible but data dissappears once it's fully connected. As the S7 cant do calls you could completely disable the cell radio if you tether. Though if you're tethering sporadicly you'd still have to constantly turn tethering on/off on your phone anyway.
At this point I believe I'm just thinking out loud for whoever else is reading.
It's likely a sliding scale with [wifi-only <--------> data-only] and it really depends on how you use it. It's clearly not black and white and if you (the hypotheical reader, not you specificly stevedebi) think that it's only one or the other you're clearly wrong.
At least on my old iphone3g the cell radio was so power hungry, even leaving wifi on constantly (including idleing) saves a huge amount of battery vs using cell. Leaving wifi constantly on doubled effective idle battery life. But clearly S1 snaps and tegra2s are more efficient the other way around. (or close enough and technically the t2 requires an external radio so it's dependant on that)
On my s5 the most efficient way is: use wifi when available, turn wifi off when idle and 3g elsewhere. As my usage is mainly large bursts and little streaming I believe this is the most efficient for my usage (which is just web browsing, i use gps too but I cache maps ahead of time).
From the other threads, the cell radio is the most power hungry part on a s7 you can turn off. (and strangely this is even more true for the wifi ones, it's still 'on' and drains power but clearly there's no radio).
Of course this doesnt take the tethering phone into account, but at least when i tether my laptop to my s5 it really doesnt drain the battery much. The phone in tether mode doesnt process anything, it's merely relaying. If it was any other tab then the s7 you could likely even charge it actively if you're using it long enough to sit down. (though it'd look really silly, but 8.9-10.1" devices have huge batteries, the s7 not so much)
Off topic-rambling aside:
If it was me in your position I would merely tether all the time as I use at&t, as they charge an inordinate amount for tablet data. It's much cheaper to have a single (largest available) phone data plan instead of a small phone and small tab data plan. Ultimately which ever is the better deal is just as huge a factor as battery life on either device. (as apparently tmo has much better rates)
I'm using the stock wm Rom. I don't use android on this phone.
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Gotta switch but, I was wondering if 2 things are available in wp8 for sprint. 1- Is there any restriction for downloads and is there free Internet sharing. I realize this question is redundant but I keep getting different answers.
I can't speak for Sprint specifically, but in general...
The restrictions for downloads (I assume you mean things like "apps over 20MB must be downloaded over WiFi" or some such thing) should be the same as on WP7. In theory it's possible for us to override those restrictions, although I don't think anybody has yet written an app to do it.
The built-in "Internet Sharing" feature works exactly like it does on WP7. If your Arrive is allowed to do it, your Ativ S Neo will be too.
thanks
Let me explain. Sprint charges for WiFi hot spot usage. With Leads rom on my arrive I am able to use internet sharing for free. I guess my main concern about a switch is whether I can do this still for free. Thanks
If you don't see anything here, its because it hasn't been found yet. I'm trying to find the same for Verizon, but LTE has made a mess of things. The Android gurus won't help either...
I hope a internet sharing/hotspot solution is available for Sprint.
I'm eligible for upgrade March 1st, and was going to get the Ativ S Neo just for a change of pace. Been using Android for 3 or 4 years now, the last windows phone I had was a Touch Pro 2.
Not a deal breaker, but I do use hotspot fairly regularly to get around works firewall...
Some people are experimenting with partially-customized ROMs for the Ativ S (no idea if they've gotten to the Neo yet; it's relatively new). Those *might* support the kinds of changes needed for free tethering.
Alternatively, you may be able to use wired tethering for free via the Diagnosis app. I can (my plan includes tethering at no extra cost, but it is capped; when I use wired tethering it doesn't report any tethered data usage).
GoodDayToDie said:
Some people are experimenting with partially-customized ROMs for the Ativ S (no idea if they've gotten to the Neo yet; it's relatively new). Those *might* support the kinds of changes needed for free tethering.
Alternatively, you may be able to use wired tethering for free via the Diagnosis app. I can (my plan includes tethering at no extra cost, but it is capped; when I use wired tethering it doesn't report any tethered data usage).
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CDMA Tethering has changed these days. They have built in "entitlement checks" to see if your eligible for tethering. I went to one of the Verizon device threads and asked but no luck.
The device username is the only thing listed. On another note, Verizon's USB modems seem to talk directly through a Networking Adapter instead of a normal modem. Their VZManager might need looked at more.
Sprint might be different OTOH.
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Anyone know how to unlock the hotspot? I have the S10+ Sprint variant.
I would love to know this too. I have tried a few methods that worked in the past (on my Galaxy S8) but no luck yet. I have the S10 Sprint variant.
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I would love to know this too. I have tried a few methods that worked in the past (on my Galaxy S8) but no luck yet. I have the S10 Sprint variant.
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PDANET will allow sharing and is working fine with my unlocked S10+.
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PDANET will allow sharing and is working fine with my unlocked S10+.
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Thanks! I will give it a try later today. Couple of questions though:
Is there a way (using tasker maybe) to start pdanet/tethering when the phone connects to my car's bluetooth?
Should I enable the "Hide Tether Usage" option for sprint (it says its only needed for certain carriers)?
Also FYI to other Sprint users, this is blocked on the Play Store (I didn't even know apps could be blocked based on your carrier until now). But you can download the APK from pdanet.co/install
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Thanks! I will give it a try later today. Couple of questions though:
Is there a way (using tasker maybe) to start pdanet/tethering when the phone connects to my car's bluetooth?
Should I enable the "Hide Tether Usage" option for sprint (it says its only needed for certain carriers)?
Also FYI to other Sprint users, this is blocked on the Play Store (I didn't even know apps could be blocked based on your carrier until now). But you can download the APK from pdanet.co/install
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I use the hide tether option not sure about using tasker as I mainly use it with my Surface so I just crank it up when I get to the office. It works flawless usually 20-40 gigs per month.
I can't try it on this line anymore my plan now has 50g hotspot included I'm like an ESN swap it to one of my other lines and test it later
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PDANET will allow sharing and is working fine with my unlocked S10+.
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What settings are you using? I can't get it.
Flash U1 firmware.
is PDAnet available in google play store? Its been way too long for me on android and looking to get this working on my Sprint Samsung S10+. any help is appreciated. thank you!
I see the link up there to download, PDANet works okay but its annoying how it changes hotspot wifi name so I have to find the new network and enter a new password each time. Hoping for a much better solution in the future.
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What settings are you using? I can't get it.
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No certain settings check WIFI Direct Hotspot (new!), hide tether usage then click the WPS button and then click connect on the desired device.
I miss the days when we almost always had root on android devices
hey all, been looking for a solution for this for a bit and havent gotten anywhere. Tried PDANET but seems to just come up with a corrupted connection if I try to connect normally. Cant install the desktop app to try and connect that way as im needing this on my work laptop. Also trying to avoid rooting...
I have an unlocked S10
Missing that easy shortcutmaster hack from my S8
Has anyone found out a way yet? Using 6 0's as MSL still doesn't allow access to change APN's. PDANET wifi direct us slow.
You could always just pay for it with your carrier and enable it the right way in the stock settings, no? You pay almost a grand for a phone, but are too cheap to pay the extra $10 for the hotspot option? LOL
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You could always just pay for it with your carrier and enable it the right way in the stock settings, no? You pay almost a grand for a phone, but are too cheap to pay the extra $10 for the hotspot option? LOL
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In the end I'll pay less than $380 to lease this phone. I don't know of an unlimited hotspot for $10. We pay almost $400 for 5 lines and it seems like the bill just keeps going up. Too cheap? No just tired of paying them more than they deserve, signal is great at home, where I need the hotspot, damn near useless everywhere else in town.
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In the end I'll pay less than $380 to lease this phone. I don't know of an unlimited hotspot for $10. We pay almost $400 for 5 lines and it seems like the bill just keeps going up. Too cheap? No just tired of paying them more than they deserve, signal is great at home, where I need the hotspot, damn near useless everywhere else in town.
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If you are home then you don't need a hotspot, or are you just trying to steal unlimited data from your cell carrier and run your home on it rather than pay for home internet?
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If you are home then you don't need a hotspot, or are you just trying to steal unlimited data from your cell carrier and run your home on it rather than pay for home internet?
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The only options for internet where I live are satellite or a dish shooting from a mountain. Both are god awful expensive ($120/m for 600KBps) and slow. You seem to keep jumping to a conclusion that I'm cheap, they want $24,000 to run cable less than half a mile. From experience, Sprint is fine until you hit 1tb, they aren't stupid, I'm sure they know what I'm doing. I didn't ask for your opinion on what I should or should not buy. I'll take it as you have no information on how to enable the hotspot, thanks for your input.
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If you are home then you don't need a hotspot, or are you just trying to steal unlimited data from your cell carrier and run your home on it rather than pay for home internet?
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Who cares what someone wants to do with their services. Help out the OP by giving them some information or don't comment at all. If you were in his position you might do the same. I know I would since the last time I used dial up speed for home internet was back in 2004.
Op something I might recommend depending on your ATT receiption at your home. Active a Cricket (ATT MNVO) on their Unlimited extra plan and pop the Sim into a cheap $50-100 unlocked international phone and you can use Hotspot for free. The plan is $60 and I've seen people ok Reddit saying they've used up to 300+ GBS with no issues.
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The only options for internet where I live are satellite or a dish shooting from a mountain. Both are god awful expensive ($120/m for 600KBps) and slow. You seem to keep jumping to a conclusion that I'm cheap, they want $24,000 to run cable less than half a mile. From experience, Sprint is fine until you hit 1tb, they aren't stupid, I'm sure they know what I'm doing. I didn't ask for your opinion on what I should or should not buy. I'll take it as you have no information on how to enable the hotspot, thanks for your input.
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I'm terribly sorry to hear that... I've got fiber and it's $100/mo for 1GB speed...