"Caller ID by Google" was among my favorite KitKat features, and Google's new "Quick Start Guide" to Lollipop implies that the Nexus 6 isn't getting it: "On Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 only, Caller ID by Google identifies inbound and outbound numbers, even for callers not saved as contacts in the Contacts app." It seems bizarre that Google wouldn't give this feature to the Nexus 6. Does anyone know for sure whether the Nexus 6 has KitKat's Caller ID feature?
Thanks, Alan
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"Caller ID by Google" was among my favorite KitKat features, and Google's new "Quick Start Guide" to Lollipop implies that the Nexus 6 isn't getting it: "On Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 only, Caller ID by Google identifies inbound and outbound numbers, even for callers not saved as contacts in the Contacts app." It seems bizarre that Google wouldn't give this feature to the Nexus 6. Does anyone know for sure whether the Nexus 6 has KitKat's Caller ID feature?
Thanks, Alan
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Its built into the dialer app and it worked on my G3 when I used the google dialer so I don't see why it wouldn't.
Thanks! That's good to know. Yeah, it works on the Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition too. So I don't see why the Nexus 6 wouldn't have it. But it's weird that the manual makes such a deliberate point of saying that it's only on the Nexus 4 and 5.
Alan
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Thanks! That's good to know. Yeah, it works on the Galaxy S4 Google Play Edition too. So I don't see why the Nexus 6 wouldn't have it. But it's weird that the manual makes such a deliberate point of saying that it's only on the Nexus 4 and 5.
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I could be wrong but when it was installed on my G3 it would tell me who was calling even if I didn't know they number. It took some work to install the dialer but it matches up with what you said. If I can find the apk again on my SD card I'll install it and upload some screen shots.
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[EDIT: Linked thread from Nexus 7 (2013) forum: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2531897]
Hi,
I'm the developer of 8sms.
It seems that sms no longer works on the Nexus 7 3G if you upgrade to Android 4.4.
In the past, some people have been able to use sms on their tablets by downloading and installing a third party sms app (such as 8sms). Even though there is no stock messaging app with the ROM (and AFAIK, this is not an official feature), this has generally worked.
However, Android 4.4 KitKat on the Nexus 7 3G takes away this feature.
In Android 4.4, a messaging app must be set as the "default sms app" so it can be allowed to save new messages to the phone's message database. In other words, a messaging app must be the default sms app in order to operate fully.
In the Nexus 5 (and Android emulators), there is a setting Settings » ... » Wireless » Default sms app which allows you to choose your default sms app.
In the Nexus 7 3G, this setting DOES NOT EXIST.
(This is according to what one user of 8sms has told me. )
It seems that the "default sms app" is not supported on the Nexus 7. In other words, you cannot set an app to be the default sms app. That means it is not possible to use an sms app.
Can some other readers confirm this?
If confirmed, this is a LOSS OF FUNCTIONALITY.
You are right. Sms does not work at all on kitkat on my N7 LTE
Even hangout does not have SMS feature
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Agreed, I was the one to originally alert this OP to the issue. Incoming SMS triggers a notification in the tray that leads only to a pop-up dialogue. After dismissing it, the OS does not save the incoming SMS anywhere and installed clients cannot see it.
Same with my nexus 7 LTE. I have tried different sms apps but the outcome is the same with android 4.4 (everything was fine with 4.3.1)
Anyone has a working solution for this ?
i have wifi nexus 7 2012 so cant any thing for sure but i think google changed sms in 4.4 sms are integrated with hangouts so download go sms (i think they have updated their app for 4.4) and report back.
xateeq said:
i have wifi nexus 7 2012 so cant any thing for sure but i think google changed sms in 4.4 sms are integrated with hangouts so download go sms (i think they have updated their app for 4.4) and report back.
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I already tried with Go SMS but no luck...
then try hangout, ur sms might be there as google told us
xateeq said:
then try hangout, ur sms might be there as google told us
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On Nexus 7 the Hangouts App doesn't have such feature...
Even some guy before me mentioned this :silly:
Right, the issue is that the OS builds for Nexus 7 are barring SMS apps from participating in Kitkat's usual way of doing SMS, and there's no default app to rely on.
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It is such a shame... I have not upgraded yet. I use 8sms. I hope there is a way to enable it.
Envoyé de mon Nexus 7 en utilisant Tapatalk
What a mess. Google needs to take a step back and stop trying to force us to use hangouts.
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Right, the issue is that the OS builds for Nexus 7 are barring SMS apps from participating in Kitkat's usual way of doing SMS, and there's no default app to rely on.
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I haven't updated my N7 to 4.4 yet so this may just be a false hope, but has anybody tried something like the following yet? (root is required)
1. Use TitaniumBackup or other tool to freeze the Simple Message Reciever app, (if 4.4 still has it. It may be called something else now.) This is what shows the message dialog for incoming texts.
2. Install 8sms and set it to run in standalone mode.
If that doesn't work then I would try injecting the MMS.apk from one of the ROMs based on 4.4 AOSP and see if it will take on the role of default SMS/MMS handler.
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I haven't updated my N7 to 4.4 yet so this may just be a false hope, but has anybody tried something like the following yet? (root is required)
1. Use TitaniumBackup or other tool to freeze the Simple Message Reciever app, (if 4.4 still has it. It may be called something else now.) This is what shows the message dialog for incoming texts.
2. Install 8sms and set it to run in standalone mode.
If that doesn't work then I would try injecting the MMS.apk from one of the ROMs based on 4.4 AOSP and see if it will take on the role of default SMS/MMS handler.
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...doesn´t work, either
I wonder if, like the missing tethering feature, it can be restored by unhiding the SMS select menu via a modification of the framework apk?
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I wonder if, like the missing tethering feature, it can be restored by unhiding the SMS select menu via a modification of the framework apk?
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I think this is an avenue worth pursuing.
I don't think Google intentionally disabled sms on the Nexus 7. To me, it seems more like their build scripts doesn't list sms as a feature, and this was just a side-effect.
Unfortunately, I don't have a cellular Nexus 7 so I'm very limited in what I can contribute to this discussion.
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I think this is an avenue worth pursuing.
I don't think Google intentionally disabled sms on the Nexus 7. To me, it seems more like their build scripts doesn't list sms as a feature, and this was just a side-effect.
Unfortunately, I don't have a cellular Nexus 7 so I'm very limited in what I can contribute to this discussion.
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And I do have one but I have no developer type experience.
Have you posted a thread about this on the N7 2013 forum? That might attract more attention too.
So this might be a stupid question, but this has nothing to do with MightyText right? In other words, MightyText should still work since it's not the tablet receiving the sms but the phone right?
@OP, From where you got Kitkat update for Nexus 7 3G. As i haven't received OTA yet also [REF] Nexus 7 Stock OTA URLs doesn't list Kitkat build for 3G version.
Also does this update disables 3rd party SMS for N7 2012 version only or is applicable to current generation N7 as well?
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So this might be a stupid question, but this has nothing to do with MightyText right? In other words, MightyText should still work since it's not the tablet receiving the sms but the phone right?
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Right, MightyText for tablets is just an interface with a phone and does not use the tablet's phone number.
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@OP, From where you got Kitkat update for Nexus 7 3G. As i haven't received OTA yet also [REF] Nexus 7 Stock OTA URLs doesn't list Kitkat build for 3G version.
Also does this update disables 3rd party SMS for N7 2012 version only or is applicable to current generation N7 as well?
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Google has posted stock factory images for KitKat on Nexus 4, 7 (2012 and 2013) and 10. These can be flashed in fastboot, and there are also flashable zips on the forum based on these factory images. Others on this thread have reported loss of SMS on the 2013 version as well.
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Google has posted stock factory images for KitKat on Nexus 4, 7 (2012 and 2013) and 10. These can be flashed in fastboot, and there are also flashable zips on the forum based on these factory images. Others on this thread have reported loss of SMS on the 2013 version as well.
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So that means Google has intentionally added code to block us from using third party SMS apps.
So we can start petition to get messaging working on nexus 7 or wait for developers to find some workaround to send / receive sms.
I believe in 2nd option more
Anyone know if the Nexus 6 will come with active listening similar to that of the Moto X? It's one of my favorite features about the Moto X.
Do not think of the device as Moto X think of the device as nexus...aka PURE AND COMPLETE stock android. So anything you love about the MOto X odd of you finding it on N6 (unless n6) has it own version, you wont see it.
Hope that answer your question
Aw that's a bummer. There are some Moto apps on the playstore. Hopefully they are usable on the Nexus 6.
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Anyone know if the Nexus 6 will come with active listening similar to that of the Moto X? It's one of my favorite features about the Moto X.
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http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
Scroll to the bottom and click "SEE ALL FEATURES." Here's one of the things it says:
OK Google
Easy access to information and performing tasks
Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
Talk to Google on the go to get quick answers, send a text, get directions and more
The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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Other than the ability to set a custom listing phrase, what are the "advanced listening features"?
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http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/
Scroll to the bottom and click "SEE ALL FEATURES." Here's one of the things it says:
OK Google
Easy access to information and performing tasks
Even if your screen is off, you can say "OK Google" on devices with digital signal processing support such as Nexus 6 and Nexus 9
Talk to Google on the go to get quick answers, send a text, get directions and more
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In regards to the texting thing. I hope they fix it to use GV number with hangouts. With the nexus 5 if I use voice commands to send a text it uses my carrier number. Same with virtually every other app that sends stuff auto via text messages,
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The nexus 6 will respond to 'Ok Google' when off. It says so right on the Android L features page.
It won't have any of the advanced listening features.
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This is already available with the Google Launcher on my S4 (so long as the phone is charging). Time will tell if this is available on the Nexus 6 from idle when it's not charging.
I've tried to set a voicemail number on my phone, but it will not save.
I've tried going to Voicemail > Setup > Voicemail Number, entered the number (1416) and then clicked ok.
The phone closes the dialog without displaying an error, but the voicemail number still reads as <Not Set> and the voicemail notification still says "Voicemail number unknown", though clicking on the option again shows 1416 already filled.
Any suggestions on how to fix this issue?
make a contact as voicemail, enter the number, save. done.
oh, and ignore that setting, its probably not for your provider.
I did that, and I can call from the contact of course.
Issue is I get the voicemail notification, and when I click on it it just takes me to the setup menu.
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I did that, and I can call from the contact of course.
Issue is I get the voicemail notification, and when I click on it it just takes me to the setup menu.
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That`s an issue with all Nexus`s. Don`t know of a solution
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That`s an issue with all Nexus`s. Don`t know of a solution
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Seriously? They've left that as an unresolved known issue for this long?
Since the "Phone" app isn't on the play store, am I correct in assuming that it's part of AOSP? or is it Google made?
If it's AOSP I'll go write up a bug report, I did some searching over there earlier, but didn't see anything. Wanted to make sure I wasn't just being dumb before I submitted a bug report.
I don't have this issue
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Seriously? They've left that as an unresolved known issue for this long?
Since the "Phone" app isn't on the play store, am I correct in assuming that it's part of AOSP? or is it Google made?
If it's AOSP I'll go write up a bug report, I did some searching over there earlier, but didn't see anything. Wanted to make sure I wasn't just being dumb before I submitted a bug report.
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Wasn`t able to change the voicemailnumber since the Nexus 4 till the N6. Never had an issue on Samsung or LG phones.
The firt time i had the notification i had to set it but now its stored permanently. Im on stock unrooted 5.1.1
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The firt time i had the notification i had to set it but now its stored permanently. Im on stock unrooted 5.1.1
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First i thought it was a problem of my ISP but it works on LG, Samsung and WP phones so its a specific Nexus issue i guess. Somehow i always get the message: Unable to change the voicemail number, contact your provider. Have that on the N4/5/6.
From what I'm seeing this seems to be a problem with the dialer on vanilla android, on non-US carriers. Maybe you guys can provide some extra info to validate this theory.
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First i thought it was a problem of my ISP but it works on LG, Samsung and WP phones so its a specific Nexus issue i guess. Somehow i always get the message: Unable to change the voicemail number, contact your provider. Have that on the N4/5/6.
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Wasn`t able to change the voicemailnumber since the Nexus 4 till the N6. Never had an issue on Samsung or LG phones.
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LG/Samsung: That fits my theory - they have their own dialer apps.
Error on N4/5/6: Was this in Europe? I've seen several posts about European users having this error message. Please let me know the carrier/country.
Edit: Netherlands on T-Mobile?
So maybe this problem only occurs on stock phones on certain carriers in certain counties?
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The firt time i had the notification i had to set it but now its stored permanently. Im on stock unrooted 5.1.1
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I'd guess you're probably in the states on a major carrier - can you verify?
Edit: Looks like you're in the UK. Still curious about the carrier though.
Im in uk on o2
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Hi,
I have galaxy note 5 with android version 6.0.1.
When someone calls me, the phone will display both the name & number of the caller. I'd like to hide the phone number when somebody calls me and display the name only. Just like the iPhone.
I've searched a lot but I couldn't find a solution. I'll really appreciate your solution on this.
Regards
Perhaps you need a custom phone app other than the native one.
alamiry said:
Hi,
I have galaxy note 5 with android version 6.0.1.
When someone calls me, the phone will display both the name & number of the caller. I'd like to hide the phone number when somebody calls me and display the name only. Just like the iPhone.
I've searched a lot but I couldn't find a solution. I'll really appreciate your solution on this.
Regards
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this feature is provided by service provider.
James_Watson said:
Perhaps you need a custom phone app other than the native one.
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Any idea what it is. I've tried alot free and non free. Non of them worked!
Impossible there is no solution !
nick17s said:
this feature is provided by service provider.
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No I'm not talking about the service provider. In the iPhone if someone calls you you will see only the name of the caller that you have saved, while in Android will show both the name and phone number! And want to hide the phone number.
I've attached 2 pictures to give you more understanding.
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I think it must be phone app which determine whether to show only the name or both the name and phone number.
Anyone can advise which app may I use?
No is getting displayed on Call screen not in the dialer app, so I don't think so any app will be able to change it.
I boat the galaxy note 7 and also has the same limitations. Really disappointing.
I'll be really glad if someone can develop a specialized app and I'm willing to pay for this is favir.
I'm just curious why the Note 8 has to use only OK Google and can't use Hey Google for waking up Google assistant. I really liked it when the option became available for my Note 5. Now its gone.... is it maybe because of Bixby? Doesn't seem like it would be the reason because we had S voice on the note 5 and they never conflicted.
I don't remember the option to be able to use "Hey Google" instead of "Ok Google" on my Note 5. But then again I never really used Google Assistant.
I just looked at my Note 5, I don't see that option, was that able to be changed using the Retrain Voice Model option? If yes, that option is still there on my Note 8, just in a different menu.
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I don't remember the option to be able to use "Hey Google" instead of "Ok Google" on my Note 5. But then again I never really used Google Assistant.
I just looked at my Note 5, I don't see that option, was that able to be changed using the Retrain Voice Model option? If yes, that option is still there on my Note 8, just in a different menu.
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Nope when you retrain the voice model, it only accepts OK Google....trust me.
gregcapps said:
Nope when you retrain the voice model, it only accepts OK Google....trust me.
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Yea its aggravating. Too bad it couldn't be like the gear s3 and train it to wake up on whatever command you want.
I'm following this thread... I was thinking that the 'hey google' option was now available with the upgrade to Android 8.
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I'm following this thread... I was thinking that the 'hey google' option was now available with the upgrade to Android 8.
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Nope. Irritating.
@Venom0642 do you have any idea why there's no option to use the hey Google wake up command for Google assistant on the note 8. Makes no sense to me. It's a more advanced device yet somehow it can't handle that?? Yet the Note5 could?
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You should be able to. However I'm using a Pixel 2 XL that might make a difference
I'm guessing it's because they don't want it confusing "Hey Bixby" or their marketing team think they need to keep some sort of distance between the two assistants.
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I'm guessing it's because they don't want it confusing "Hey Bixby" or their marketing team think they need to keep some sort of distance between the two assistants.
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Well....it worked with Svoice just fine. The wake up command for Bixby is "Hi Bixby" which can't be customized either. Which is also a step backwards from Svoice, because I could set the wakeup to anything I wanted on my Note5.
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In the same boat. After some stumbling here and there, I guess this option is device specific and only enabled or available on certain "select" devices which allow or would prompt to install the latest limited version of g-assistant.
https://assistant.google.com/platforms/phones/
Surprising to see Samsung Note 8 being a dominant white elephant in the room is casually ignored.
Even Samsung guides us to use the "Ok google" hotword as of now
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00077672/
https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-set-up-use-google-assistant-galaxy-note8/
Keeping fingers crossed.
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In the same boat. After some stumbling here and there, I guess this option is device specific and only enabled or available on certain "select" devices which allow or would prompt to install the latest limited version of g-assistant.
https://assistant.google.com/platforms/phones/
Surprising to see Samsung Note 8 being a dominant white elephant in the room is casually ignored.
Even Samsung guides us to use the "Ok google" hotword as of now
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00077672/
https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-set-up-use-google-assistant-galaxy-note8/
Keeping fingers crossed.
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The s9 recently got the "hey google" as a wake up command..... so here's hoping it comes soon since the note 8 follows the s9 in some respects.
HyperEscape said:
In the same boat. After some stumbling here and there, I guess this option is device specific and only enabled or available on certain "select" devices which allow or would prompt to install the latest limited version of g-assistant.
https://assistant.google.com/platforms/phones/
Surprising to see Samsung Note 8 being a dominant white elephant in the room is casually ignored.
Even Samsung guides us to use the "Ok google" hotword as of now
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00077672/
https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-set-up-use-google-assistant-galaxy-note8/
Keeping fingers crossed.
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Just fyi, I've finally got the hey google hot word to work. I'm on CRJ3 currently. I had retrain the voice model. I tried just saying Hey Google on the last two and now it works great.