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Is Galaxy Gear still worth it after GG 2 announcement?

Hi guys, i have a note 3 and been contemplating on getting the galaxy gear to complement with my phone and utilise in using S Health... now with the galaxy gear 2 variants have been announced, im wondering if getting GG 1 is still worth it as the prices will surely go down... appreciate yoyr thoughts. Ty
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Why not get the Gear 2 Neo? I see NOOO reason what-so-ever to have a camera on a watch anyways! lol

blitzkriegh said:
Hi guys, i have a note 3 and been contemplating on getting the galaxy gear to complement with my phone and utilise in using S Health... now with the galaxy gear 2 variants have been announced, im wondering if getting GG 1 is still worth it as the prices will surely go down... appreciate yoyr thoughts. Ty
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Why would you even contemplate purchasing old techno? The gear 2 should prove a 'better' allroud experience IF IF IF the price is right. The Gear one was overpriced.
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None are worth 300. I got the Gear at 30% off and thats about the price point it needs to be.
Nothing I saw today would lead me to want either of the new gears knowing they run Tizen and how they goofed the Gear launch software. Id say the best bet would be the Gear fit but only in the 149 range.
FWIW the camera on the Gear has been priceless. So many moments that it is more useful than pulling out your phone unlocking and waiting for camera to load.

xManMythLegend said:
None are worth 300. I got the Gear at 30% off and thats about the price point it needs to be.
Nothing I saw today would lead me to want either of the new gears knowing they run Tizen and how they goofed the Gear launch software. Id say the best bet would be the Gear fit but only in the 149 range.
FWIW the camera on the Gear has been priceless. So many moments that it is more useful than pulling out your phone unlocking and waiting for camera to load.
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I agree the camera on the gear is great! With my 1 year old daughter I use it all the time to capture her random moments she has! :good: And no matter what they do with the gear 2 it still will not be as open at the gg1 with full android.

price for the gear watch in my country i can get a bnew at $150 USD. In fact, someone already offered to me tonight. selling at a huge discounted price since he got it as a free bundled with the Note Pro. Do you think it's a good deal? thinking of getting it since i can make use on rooting it and good combo with note 3...

$150 is a great deal,I would jump on that if I were you
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Go get it. After some experience you will decide if. You will get g2. At this pricr you will sell later at least at the same amount of money...
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Just took the bait and so far so good. I get to enjoy now the note 3 combo.
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i like the camera placement on gear 1 more (i do not need video calling).
gear 2 is supposed to run tizen, and this is my biggest worry as of now. i'm not going to say goodbye to my android apps.
i'm happy with my gear 1 and null rom.
it's still the best smartwatch on the market.

xManMythLegend said:
FWIW the camera on the Gear has been priceless. So many moments that it is more useful than pulling out your phone unlocking and waiting for camera to load.
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i actually am not sure the G2 will be as easy to use but i catch all the shots of the kids i use to miss when i would have to pull out my phone from pocket and fire up the camera.

My only concern is whether samsung will provide support and develop new apps for the old gear now? It's not like they seemed to put a lot of effort developing apps for it in the first place! But even in its current form it ticks most of the boxes for me and battery life is pretty decent.
Plus the camera is actually useful and pretty decent in good light.
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xManMythLegend said:
None are worth 300. I got the Gear at 30% off and thats about the price point it needs to be.
Nothing I saw today would lead me to want either of the new gears knowing they run Tizen and how they goofed the Gear launch software. Id say the best bet would be the Gear fit but only in the 149 range.
FWIW the camera on the Gear has been priceless. So many moments that it is more useful than pulling out your phone unlocking and waiting for camera to load.
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Apparently the original Gear is getting updated to Tizen too: http://www.droid-life.com/2014/02/25/galaxy-gear-update-to-tizen/

Love my Galaxy Gear from day one! Use all day, battery isnt that bad for me go easy 2 days! If Tizen means more battery life and same funcions on the watch cool! The only thing that i like more in Gear 2 its dark bezel on black model and lack of the volcano camera on the Galaxy Gear. By the way the camera at Galaxy Gear is actualy prety good... and allways one "the hand" when is need I only use my Note 3 to take important landscape pictures and things like that!
Another thing be able to make phone call with a watch its perfect when driven... i use all the time and dont have to take hands from the wheel

I don't see a reason to move to the GG2. I even see more reason to stay, we got android! Samsung would have to do a hell of a job with tizen for me to run to GG2 or even update to tizen os (like its been speculated)

The GG1 will still have its place and based on the refinements of the Gear2 like water resistance, the G2 will continue the migration of early tech. adapters.
I have a feeling that the real breakout success will be the Samsung Fit. It will likely be stregically priced to capture the segment of the market that are reluctant to tech. but interested in health. Desciding to focus on a limited, but capable level of features, that have demonstrated merit, and still staying reasonable priced, will be a big game changer; Especially in this strange segment of the tech. market where the manufacturer arbitrarily "creates solutions to problems that don't really exist in reality".

Gear VR sealed the iPhone 6+ vs Note 4 conversation!

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Yesterday I was with the family and friends when suddenly the conversation got more interesting when a friend placed his brand new iPhone 6+ on the dining table.
So, as expected some guests mentioned how superior it was to many other phones including (dare to say) my trusty Note 4!!! :laugh:
I started laughing but let them talk all their nonsense.
Some asked about the "new" features of his new iphone 6+ and after a few minutes, he started praising about them, but quickly ran out of words.
Everybody was awed and impressed about the new iPhone 6+, taking turns to inspect the new device!
Now it was my turn to talk about the Note 4, so after what seemed like a good 20 minutes of me doing a quick demonstration of almost every cool feature of the Note 4, I managed to convince almost everybody about the Note 4 supremacy, but then I remembered that I had the Gear VR in my car's trunk so I said... "Ok everybody listen, I will close this stupid Apple vs Samsung argument, and I bet there will be no one here that will continue to believe such iPhone 6+ and Apple nonsense after you see and try this".
So I went to pick up the Gear VR, turned on the Chromecast enabled big screen TV, launched the Cast Screen feature on my Note 4, grabbed the Gear VR and popped in my Note 4 into it and started showing off how cool Virtual Reality on the Note 4 really is... Everybody started cheering, nervously laughing, and yelling "my turn, my turn" like a 10 year old waiting his turn to play on the WII.
Everybody started taking turns while others watched the action on the big screen tv!
They were mesmerized to say the least... Totally blown away of this technology, including the pro-Apple people of course!
And yes folks, that sealed the argument of which phone has is superior technology and feature set!
What a great night it was!!! :highfive:

Nice write up-appreciate the story , I'm still on the fence on buying the VR, as I'm just not exactly clear what is does :lol:
I read your review, but I'm confused, do I need a chromecast also (I don't have one), or is that only for TV output?
Also are their movies for the format or just gaming?

Amd4life said:
Nice write up-appreciate the story , I'm still on the fence on buying the VR, as I'm just not exactly clear what is does :lol:
I read your review, but I'm confused, do I need a chromecast also (I don't have one), or is that only for TV output?
Also are their movies for the format or just gaming?
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Thanks Amd4Life!
No, the Chromecast argument was thrown in the conversation because I was showing off the supremacy of the Note 4 versus the iPhone 6+ in streaming live video to a Chromecast while doing Virtual Reality with the Gear VR.
Of course you don't need it at all. The Chromecast can be used to stream whatever is on the smartphone screen to the TV, and since the VR can only be seen by the wearer, this is a great solution for everyone on the room to see what's going on "in there".
I was initially not impressed with the Gear VR idea and was actually thrown off by the price of the Gear VR, but quite honestly (while expensive) it really takes gaming and multimedia to the next level.
The many video reviews and photos online simply does not make justice to what the Gear VR really is, not even words can describe it. You have to experience it to understand it and imagine the possibilities.
As geeky as it is, I truly believe this is the future of entertainment and everyone that have tried it, ends up loving it and wanting to get one.
Soon you will see it on your nearest Best Buy store, I don't know if they will have a demo unit, but really, you will not be disappointed.
Cheers!

I have a 6+ and got a used Note 4 for GF off Swappa, was immediately impressed with the screen, got a Gear VR last week, used it a bit, and just bought a used Note 4 for me too. The Gear VR is pretty impressive for what it costs.
A heads up, Verizon is selling refurb Note 4's for $489 with a full manufacturer's warranty (1 year) on their website, I used that to leverage my seller, since I wanted the Verizon model. Verizon's LTE phones are unlocked, so you can use them on GSM carriers as well as Verizon.

pliablemoose said:
I have a 6+ and got a used Note 4 for GF off Swappa, was immediately impressed with the screen, got a Gear VR last week, used it a bit, and just bought a used Note 4 for me too. The Gear VR is pretty impressive for what it costs.
A heads up, Verizon is selling refurb Note 4's for $489 with a full manufacturer's warranty (1 year) on their website, I used that to leverage my seller, since I wanted the Verizon model. Verizon's LTE phones are unlocked, so you can use them on GSM carriers as well as Verizon.
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Only issue is that verizon and at&t versions are bootlocked.

Absolutely love my VR. Bought it for movies and sooooo glad I did. It will play your mp4 movies with no problem. It will also play your home movies you make with your camera.
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Bestbuy has Moga Power A Bluetooth Controller for $23.99.

I believe this is an in-store price because it is more online. This is supposed to be an excellent controller for use with the GVR. It's normally $59.99. Not all stores carry this so check online before venturing out. Here's the SKU: 1883244.
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is there a link or ad showing its that much in store?

sfld said:
is there a link or ad showing its that much in store?
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I just bought it for that much in the store about an hour ago. Here's the web link for the online price. If you are hesitant please call ahead for pricing:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/power-a...ices/1883244.p?id=1219066387956&skuId=1883244

From what I've read, B-mode is best for non Moga games.

mitchellvii said:
From what I've read, B-mode is best for non Moga games.
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Did the inventory checker work for you? Im trying on the website but its not even populating how it usually does with all the locations

sfld said:
Did the inventory checker work for you? Im trying on the website but its not even populating how it usually does with all the locations
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Yeah it did. They have changed that lately. You may have to re-enter the zip code again manually.

Called my Best Buy and they said it's been discontinued so it can only be bought in store. Bummer
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Called my Best Buy and they said it's been discontinued so it can only be bought in store. Bummer
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Probably why it's a good deal. You don't have any in stores near you?

Checked and called within 50 miles near me and they've all said the same thing. I even showed them your post and they said they've discontinued it. :/
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probably not going to show inventory online but might luck out by going and walking through the store, what section do they keep them in? gaming? or cellular

Well they may be mistaken about the discontinue as they have them advertised for sale online and my best buy had 4.

sfld said:
probably not going to show inventory online but might luck out by going and walking through the store, what section do they keep them in? gaming? or cellular
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They usually have a small hook of them by the phone cases and an end display between console games and computer accessories, depending on store layout. Your best bet would be to go for the Power Pro (same generation, but "premium") on Amazon or somewhere that has it discounted. It is far more comfortable and still fits into the Gear VR bag by propping it in the area meant for the Sammy one.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/power-a...ices/1883244.p?id=1219066387956&skuId=1883244 <- That is what comes up for the SKU. They are $36.99 and it is the Moga Hero, so chances are they will not price match based on a rumor. Usually discontinued items are marked or regular price on the site, not on sale.
The Hero line is known for being problematic. They do some interesting things with the buttons, such as sending out buffer codes. It is not something you may see as an end user, so long as the apps you use it with have accounted for use with the Hero.
If the controller didn't work for you, that may work to your advantage. Before returning it, it is a good idea to contact Moga. Moga doesn't do recalls, they discontinue the controller and then do warranty replacements for a similar item. They have done the same thing with their console controllers and you can buy a $30 PS3 controller and with one phone call a week or so of waiting, come out with a $60 Xbox controller.
My thoughts on the Hero are not based on experience with the Gear VR specifically, they are based on experience with designing the controller interface for an emulator. Moga releases a general plug-in for Unity, so chances are using it with the Gear VR exclusively will never present the issues. The plugin for Android as a whole requires you design a separate interface just for the Hero, which unless you use their SDK, is when you begin to notice the eccentricities.

twistedumbrella said:
They usually have a small hook of them by the phone cases and an end display between console games and computer accessories, depending on store layout.
You're better off waiting for a sale on the Power Pro or praying it's broken out of the box. Moga tends to cut all ties to discontinued hardware, but their warranty repair is to replace it with a current model.
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What?!
Mine works fine and for $24 is a steal. I really can't be worried about "continued support". I mean, it's a controller - how much support does it need? You turn it on, you press the buttons, boom boom. Don't think I'll be calling support for a walk-through. *SMH*
My BestBuy had 3 flavors, the Pro, an iPhone model and this one. They sold them in the mobile section. The Pro version was very expensive and not on sale. The online inventory thing did show they had these in 3 stores in my region.
The problem with "waiting on a Pro version sale" is waiting on a Pro version sale. Are you willing to wait months (if ever) just to save a few bucks on a controller? Kind of ridiculous plan assuming you actually want a controller anytime soon.

mitchellvii said:
What?!
Mine works fine and for $24 is a steal. I really can't be worried about "continued support". I mean, it's a controller - how much support does it need? You turn it on, you press the buttons, boom boom. Don't think I'll be calling support for a walk-through. *SMH*
My BestBuy had 3 flavors, the Pro, an iPhone model and this one. They sold them in the mobile section. The Pro version was very expensive and not on sale. The online inventory thing did show they had these in 3 stores in my region.
The problem with "waiting on a Pro version sale" is waiting on a Pro version sale. Are you willing to wait months (if ever) just to save a few bucks on a controller? Kind of ridiculous plan assuming you actually want a controller anytime soon.
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I prefer not to run out and buy something because I saw one thread about it on xda. That is how you end up with $200 in hardware that you have to post all over xda bashing. It is better to be absolutely sure it is the device you want, not just the one that was on sale. Whether or not you want to be impatient is your discretion. I am only providing the info I found through a lot of research before I bought the Moga Power Pro that has stuck with me through three devices.
Other cheap but extremely well-rated controllers that do not require special software:
http://www.walmart.com/ip/22099651?wmlspartner=wlpa&adid=22222222227017417372
http://www.gamestop.com/android/acc...6-idroid-con-bluetooth-game-controller/106526
http://buy.thegameklip.com/
And here is the Hero Power with a regular price of $33 on Amazon. Obviously you aren't missing a great sale if you wait a week to see if the other one goes on sale first.
http://www.amazon.com/POWER-MOGA-Pro-Electronic-Games-Game/dp/B00FB5RBJM

Thanks for links. Those are all significantly more expensive than the model discussed in the OP and the last one isn't even a controller at all, it's a clip.

T-Mobile Video Calling Update

http://newsroom.t-mobile.com/issues-insights-blog/video-calling.htm
Samsung Galaxy S6 edge+ and Samsung Galaxy Note 5 now have T-Mobile Video Calling available through simple software updates, while the Galaxy S6 and Galaxy S6 edge updates will be available next week.
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Hopefully this will also bring Samsung Pay, RCS and some of the other enhancements seen in later builds on Sprint and other carriers.

So this means next Sunday night 11:59PM pacific time

Actually the advanced messaging excites me more than the video calling does.
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Just a speculation but I'm thinking since T-Mobile announced the advanced messaging features a couple months ago this update may only be that since the development and testing would of taken some time. I'm probably wrong but I kind of see the advanced messaging update coming and then if not on just before the 28th for the update Sprint received a few days ago to coincide with the Samsung Pay launch. Of course they may have bundled all this together but we wont know that till sometime next week.

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Just a speculation but I'm thinking since T-Mobile announced the advanced messaging features a couple months ago this update may only be that since the development and testing would of taken some time. I'm probably wrong but I kind of see the advanced messaging update coming and then if not on just before the 28th for the update Sprint received a few days ago to coincide with the Samsung Pay launch. Of course they may have bundled all this together but we wont know that till sometime next week.
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I'm not sure what you're exactly trying to say, but in any event, Samsung Pay has already begun rollout, Advanced Messaging and Video Calling are standard on GS6E+ and Note5... The testing is done, we're getting it all.

I'm not sure what you're exactly trying to say, but in any event, Samsung Pay has already begun rollout, Advanced Messaging and Video Calling are standard on GS6E+ and Note5... The testing is done, we're getting it all.
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I'm not saying we arnt gonna get all the features like advanced messaging or samsung pay and the UI changes I'm simply suggesting unless samsung bundled it all into one massive update we may only get the advanced messaging update next week and the one with samsung pay and all the other goodies either on or just before the 28th launch in the US. But since there is no proof that this update contains anything more then the messaging features we will just have to wait and see.

I guess I'll have to enable VoLTE in order to use this... I'll have to decide between features or battery life.

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So this means next Sunday night 11:59PM pacific time
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I'm wouldn't get your hopes up for a Monday release since it's a holiday and I read by the end of the week so I'm thinking wed-fri release time frame.

Goods new!!!
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i hope these come with various system updates, primarily improving the battery life so its on par with ATT's S6

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I'm wouldn't get your hopes up for a Monday release since it's a holiday and I read by the end of the week so I'm thinking wed-fri release time frame.
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I meant next sunday

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I meant next sunday
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The info in the first link posted to the thread posted on the 3rd of last week says our phones will get it this week.

Does anyone know about when they release the updates is it early morning/afternoon/evening or is it sporadic and just have to keep checking? Hoping it comes tomorrow I'm excited to see if it has all the stuff sprint got a week ago.

Darn nothing today hoping for tomorrow!

I checked for a system update a few minutes ago and got this weird message.
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I checked for a system update a few minutes ago and got this weird message.View attachment 3467219
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LOL because everybody including myself is checking it every 30 minutes

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LOL because everybody including myself is checking it every 30 minutes
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Also a victim of this haha.

Same error here. One can only hope they're readying the servers for a launch tomorrow.

Anyone else get the samsung internet app update that made the icon round its like they are teasing us haha.

Any mention of a stage fright patch in this release?

R.i.p samsung

​I like touchwiz, i like its look, i like to do some modifications on it
i hate it because it isnt open source. i hate it because it is made by samsung. I hate samsung because they dont give a fck for their customers who Spent a lot of money to buy their high end device
If u dont understand what kind of bull**** i am talking about look at this post at sammobile
http://www.sammobile.com/2016/08/20...first-generation-galaxy-tab-s-to-marshmallow/
Low end class galaxy tab 4 8.0 rocks with5.1.1
We stuck on 5.0
Edit 22.aug. http://www.sammobile.com/2016/08/22...ion-galaxy-tab-s-despite-its-previous-claims/ they play a game with us
ThEy did the same for note 3 neo lollipop update. samsung gulf said no update for note 3 neo but it actually got the update 15months after Lp release lol
Edit2 23.Aug. http://www.sammobile.com/2016/08/22...e-original-galaxy-tab-s-will-get-marshmallow/
Tab S MM User manual spottet

I still do not accept that as the final answer. I won't accept it until the end of September or Samsung says it themselves and not some Facebook branch off.
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i was about to buy s7 edge but no thanks. Samsung killed another high quality product.

noxarcana said:
I still do not accept that as the final answer. I won't accept it until the end of September or Samsung says it themselves and not some Facebook branch off.
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I wouldn't hold my breath for a Samsung announcement about the devices they are not going to update.

Samsung will not update the Galaxy S7 to Nougat as well:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/01/trust-no-one-samsungs-twitter-support-reps/
Ha.
Joke aside I'm not surprised by this, Sammobile said the Tab S would received MM no later than early August and we are already approaching September.

GoldExperience said:
Samsung will not update the Galaxy S7 to Nougat as well:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/08/01/trust-no-one-samsungs-twitter-support-reps/
Ha.
Joke aside I'm not surprised by this, Sammobile said the Tab S would received MM no later than early August and we are already approaching September.
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SamMobile didn't say we WOULD get it in August. They stated they believe it was most likely. I'm not really holding my breath for the update anymore, but I'm also not giving up entirely until September has come and gone.
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well as expected from samsung we wont be getting MM .

what a bad news

Well I think we need to look at porting more roms to this device rather than just sitting on our hands.....I know that we have some very smart member here now lit the porting games begin........

Dang...I just bought a Tab S too... Why does it say "first generation Tab S's"? I thought there was only one generation. If not, could someone list which models are old and which are new. I have a SM-T707A

I am not going to lose my sleep over this. I use my Tab S as a portable TV screen, and for that purpose it works just fine, even with Lollipop. It has the latest versions of Fox, NBC, AMC, HBO, Netfix, Uverse, Youtube, as well as some other streaming apps. It runs the MX Player which plays pretty much any video format.

openupitsdave said:
Dang...I just bought a Tab S too... Why does it say "first generation Tab S's"? I thought there was only one generation. If not, could someone list which models are old and which are new. I have a SM-T707A
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I believe they mean the Tab S is the first generation, the S2 is the second generation, etc.
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Posted this in the "Android M not coming to Tab S" thread too, but I just got this from Samsung Live Chat.
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Sorry for any offence please don't take it that way that is a bit vague of answer from Samsung chat plus it says all products which is not correct

suburbadroid said:
Sorry for any offence please don't take it that way that is a bit vague of answer from Samsung chat plus it says all products which is not correct
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That's true, but it also isn't outright claiming we're not getting it. I took it as all Tab S products since that's the device we were talking about.
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yeah your right man, ive just looked at the other thread you pasted the chat into and i agree with the other guy only time will tell

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yeah your right man, ive just looked at the other thread you pasted the chat into and i agree with the other guy only time will tell
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That's why I'm not giving up on my small sliver of hope until September has come and gone. Once that happens; we'll have our official answer.
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Agreed I'm still hanging in there too. Me and my gf both have the tab s and it really does need it

Screw the samsung if we dont get the MM this tablet deserves it...it will be my last samsung tablet and i also will buy a new nexus instead of next years galaxy s8...i know it wont matter to them but they are not getting my money anymore...

tommaazz said:
Screw the samsung if we dont get the MM this tablet deserves it...it will be my last samsung tablet and i also will buy a new nexus instead of next years galaxy s8...i know it wont matter to them but they are not getting my money anymore...
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You're right man!