What is the point of the 21 pin data cable? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5

Just got my new S5 (yay!) and see that it comes with a new data cable configuration. I can't find anything that tells what the point of it is. Google was a bust too... Anyone know what the extra pins are used for? I looked at Samsung for accessories and even the HDMI adapter is standard micro usb and does not use the extra pins...

scottmcm said:
Just got my new S5 (yay!) and see that it comes with a new data cable configuration. I can't find anything that tells what the point of it is. Google was a bust too... Anyone know what the extra pins are used for? I looked at Samsung for accessories and even the HDMI adapter is standard micro usb and does not use the extra pins...
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It's used for USB 3.0

scottmcm said:
Just got my new S5 (yay!) and see that it comes with a new data cable configuration. I can't find anything that tells what the point of it is. Google was a bust too... Anyone know what the extra pins are used for? I looked at Samsung for accessories and even the HDMI adapter is standard micro usb and does not use the extra pins...
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This is USB 3.0 which is a faster rate of data transfer from devices like computers to your phone. But USB 3.1 is right around the corner and that is a reversible plug. S5 is becoming old news fast
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Standard usb port adapter

Where is this at for the tab. Has anyone found it yet. I dont know if maybe froyo does not support the usb host mode needed or what. I saw that it was comming and yet cannot seem to find it. It was supposed to plug into the data port on the tab and give you the ability to attatch regular usb peripherals.
Any info is greatly appreciated
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FWIW I saw a USB dock at Home Plus (Tesco for you guys in the UK) the other day for 29,000 KRW. Although I can't be sure, it appeared to be just a USB only dock but it looked like the HDMI dock recently reviewed on here.
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I havnt seen it yet!
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you should try out the Elan Mobidapter, it's a micro SD to USB adapter with integrated USB Host. i'm using the Mobidapter often and im happy with it, but you can only use USB Storages with it. No keyboard support.
BTW: Android itself doesn't have or support an USB Host.
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BTW: Android itself doesn't have or support an USB Host.
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That's not entirely true. Most android builds don't have the necessary usb host support as part of the kernel, but there's nothing to prevent someone from compiling it or adding it in as a module. The Tab is/was supposed to do this OOTB, and based on the pinout information posted elsewhere, there is at least kernel support for determining if host mode should be enabled. With a modified iPod connector from Sparkfun I was able to get the Tab's AccessoryManager process (I think that's what it was called) to see a non-supported device plugged in (externally-powered USB hard drive enclosure), even if it couldn't enumerate it. It could be because I didn't connect the requisite +5V for downstream devices, or because there is no usb_storage module available. More testing needs to be done on this before we write it off completely. Hopefully Samsung will just release their solution(s) sooner than later.
That is what I wish they would do. But im afraid with the tab10.1 it may be put on the back burner
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How did you modify the ipod connector? I have a few ipod/iphone cables lying around but they seem backwards compared to the sgt connector and difficult to modify.
I'm thinking about buying some sgt connectors or cables from china to play with.
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Unfortunately I could not find a supplier of the "mirrored" iPod connectors that the SGT uses. I contacted many China-based component mfgs and none could point me in the right direction for that stupid dock connector. So I got the iPod one from SparkFun, used an xacto knife and small file to grind off the material on either side of the connector that keys it into the mating iPod connector. This allows you to invert it and plug it into the SGT, which then gives you access to all 30 pins. The cheap charging/sync cables that you can get from ebay and the likes only come with 5-7 pins connected, and the rest missing.
3ph15t said:
you should try out the Elan Mobidapter, it's a micro SD to USB adapter with integrated USB Host. i'm using the Mobidapter often and im happy with it, but you can only use USB Storages with it. No keyboard support.
BTW: Android itself doesn't have or support an USB Host.
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you know what sucks? I had a $100 haipad that had a microusb jack and came with a 6" adapter cable. guess what? you could plug in usb sticks, a usb mouse, or a usb keyboard. worked perfectly. mouse had a pointer, keyboard worked without a popup, it was all quite magical.
that was on a 2.1 resistive touchscreen chinese tablet.
why the hell can't the tab to this?

Best OTG?

Can anyone recommend a decent USB OTG that hangs down the side of the nexus 10 rather than sticks out?
Preferably one they've proven to work with an N10.
I appear to have lost my Samsung one I was hoping to use.
Thank you.
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I have this one
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005GI2VMG/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00
Works perfectly with my thumb drives and external hdd. Not only does it work, but the price was unbeatable.
Don't buy one of those $10+ cables as it does the same exact thing as this one.
I might add, you could possibly look into getting one that can charge the device at the same time it's using an external storage device. Unless you're okay with it.
Stickmount works with root on my devices
Nexus Media Importer works without root on my devices
GNex and N10.
Hope this helps!
Confirmed that my OTG cable works.
sunoryjim said:
Confirmed that my OTG cable works.
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Can you still get to the headphone jack with that cable?
Is there any long (length wise) USB OTG Cable?
So I can just keep the flash drive or external drive in my messenger bag and use my phone or tablet LOL.
Also will USB 3.0 work with the devices?
Lumsdoni said:
Can anyone recommend a decent USB OTG that hangs down the side of the nexus 10 rather than sticks out?
Preferably one they've proven to work with an N10.
I appear to have lost my Samsung one I was hoping to use.
Thank you.
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I bought both of these. Both connect with the larger portion of the USB connector towards the screen so they hang down the side of the tablet:
SANOXY Micro USB Host Mode OTG Cable - The connector for this one was flipped from the picture and hangs down the side of my N10.
eForCity Micro USB OTG to USB 2.0 Adapter - This one came just like it was pictured.
Both came from Hong Kong which took about 2 weeks in the mail however they cost just around $1.00 each and with free shipping not much to lose.
I use mine with a elago Mobile Nano II USB 2.0 microSDHC Flash Memory Card Reader and a 32GB card (my 64GB is in my S3). With the adapter in the OTG cable it barely hangs out the bottom and makes it very compact.
I have 2 kinds of OTG cables here, both working perfectly fine with my Galaxy Nexus. However on Nexus 10 when I connect a USB device to the OTG (or connect the OTG cable with a USB device already plugged in) the tablet turns off completly and I have to remove the OTG to be able to start it again.
OK -- Sorry to resurrect a glue'd horse, but does anyone have a link for one that ALWAYS ships the correctly sized (read not too long) OTG adapter? I've already ordered two of the OTG adapters through Amazon but they BOTH have too long of a connector and it basically sits loose in any device. Very lame.
bschrib said:
OK -- Sorry to resurrect a glue'd horse, but does anyone have a link for one that ALWAYS ships the correctly sized (read not too long) OTG adapter? I've already ordered two of the OTG adapters through Amazon but they BOTH have too long of a connector and it basically sits loose in any device. Very lame.
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I'm looking for one as well. The cheap ones from eBay are too long. They work but the connection is loose. Do NOT buy the ones linked below.
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=300803544652
I bought THIS one from monoprice for $1.43 last week its on its way...ill report back when it arrives. Monoprice stuff is usually pretty good quality, hoping it is nice and secure
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008CQKM2U/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
Has anyone tried this? Says it will work with the Nexus 7 so I'm assuming the 10 as well? Would be nice to have all in one.
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egrims said:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B008CQKM2U/ref=cm_sw_r_an_am_ap_am_us?ie=UTF8
Has anyone tried this? Says it will work with the Nexus 7 so I'm assuming the 10 as well? Would be nice to have all in one.
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Just an FYI I e-mailed Juiced Systems to see if this would work with the Nexus 10. Their response is below:
The adapter should work with 4 out of the 5 functions for the Nexus 10(MHL maybe not). I have yet to test it out personally. This is something we will test soon and will post online. The nexus 10 does have an HDMI mini port built into it already. If MHL doesn't work that is because google did not think it was necessary to make it MHL capable when it has an HDMI mini port. The Nexus 7 is not MHL capable either, not sure why they chose to do that. I will keep you posted once the nexus 10 testing comes back.
Thank you
sunoryjim said:
Confirmed that my OTG cable works.
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confirming this one works, and its a really great fit, nice and tight not like the loose too long one.thanks for the link.
productofusa said:
confirming this one works, and its a really great fit, nice and tight not like the loose too long one.thanks for the link.
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Can you still access the headphone jack with this OTG cable?
Can anyone tell me how an OTG cable can be better than another except of the price/length/design ??
Isn't that micro USB to USB cable just a normal cable connecting 5 pins which are either in a bigger or a smaller plug?
Why should such a cable not work (except of the situation that the cable is damaged)?
xeTaiz said:
Can anyone tell me how an OTG cable can be better than another except of the price/length/design ??
Isn't that micro USB to USB cable just a normal cable connecting 5 pins which are either in a bigger or a smaller plug?
Why should such a cable not work (except of the situation that the cable is damaged)?
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I watched a video on how to make your own, if it was correct, they stated that one pin was unused and when it is connected to chassis ground tells the device to go into OTG mode.
So this OTG cable is not just connecting each pin? It's not just an adapter?
Okay then, good to know, thank you
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Can you still access the headphone jack with this OTG cable?
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If you took a razor knife to the strain relief part it would work, as it is you can stress it out of the way enough to fit a headphone jack but it puts a bit too much pressure on the USB port for my liking try it they're cheap!
i see most are using ones with a cable, is there an issue with ones like these?
http://www.overstock.com/Electronic...l?recSet=4e4a53cb-bea5-4a2e-aec6-88ea05c24288
http://www.ebay.com/itm/90d-right-A...160919848094?ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSA:SG:3160
I got 2 of this, works pretty well and sits close to the side of the tablet.
Only 2 issues, the connector itself is long so it's a little loose and it will block the earphone jack.

Multi-functional 4 in 1 Connection Kit

Has anyone tried this accessory with the GN2? Looks pretty useful, just want to make sure it works without rooting.
amazon . com/Samsung-S2-Multi-functional-Connection-Kit/dp/B006MJZOMW/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1353387405&sr=1-2&keywords=Micro+USB+OTG
I have one and it works great. I've only used it for transferring in photos from my digicam and some files from a few thumbdrives, but it's worked perfectly thus far.
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Has anyone tried this accessory with the GN2? Looks pretty useful, just want to make sure it works without rooting.
amazon.com/Samsung-S2-Multi-functional-Connection-Kit/dp/B006MJZOMW/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1353387405&sr=1-2&keywords=Micro+USB+OTG
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I have one. No need to root as stock OTG support is fine, but will not read NTFS.
There are a couple issues I have with it used with Note2:
- it will not act as a dock... it will not charge your phone while it powers memory or USB devices.
- it cannot be used with a case, unless you also buy an extension cable... M/F micro USB
- mine feels a little weak, like it might break off in the micro USB port & is intermittent if moved.
It's easier & cheaper to use a OTG cable unless you need to power USB devices... then you could add a hub. If you use a smart dock, you get charging, 3x USB, audio, HDMI.
For the cost, it would have been nice to have it charge as stated for S2.
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Thanks for the very helpful info!
benchi86 said:
Has anyone tried this accessory with the GN2? Looks pretty useful, just want to make sure it works without rooting.
amazon . com/Samsung-S2-Multi-functional-Connection-Kit/dp/B006MJZOMW/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1353387405&sr=1-2&keywords=Micro+USB+OTG
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Bought it for use with my Galaxy Note and now use it for my Galaxy Note 2.
Works great (yeah, not with a case on unless you have an extension cable), have used it with SD cards, Keyboard, mouse (yup, puts a mouse pointer on your screen!), external hard drive (but you have to plug in power (usb or wall charger) for that), I have even plugged in my Creative USB headphones and they work great! Awesome device.
If I was to make it, I would put a little sturdier plug on it (see other post for "flimsy feel") and make it so it had a VERY short plug (like a 1/4 inch longer) so it could be used without popping the bottom out of my TPU case).
If someone has a link to a SHORT m-f micro usb extender, SHARE please !!
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Bought it for use with my Galaxy Note and now use it for my Galaxy Note 2.
Works great (yeah, not with a case on unless you have an extension cable), have used it with SD cards, Keyboard, mouse (yup, puts a mouse pointer on your screen!), external hard drive (but you have to plug in power (usb or wall charger) for that), I have even plugged in my Creative USB headphones and they work great! Awesome device.
If I was to make it, I would put a little sturdier plug on it (see other post for "flimsy feel") and make it so it had a VERY short plug (like a 1/4 inch longer) so it could be used without popping the bottom out of my TPU case).
If someone has a link to a SHORT m-f micro usb extender, SHARE please !!
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http://www.amazon.com/Juiced-Systems-MHL-Adapter-MicroSDHC/dp/B008CQKM2U/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC
HDMI added, and the short extender you want.
Did anyone tried the version with the hdmi?If it works,it could be a good alternative to official smart dock (100$)
It seems that it doesn't charge the note, as per the reviews, when the usb host is used.
I want something that charges it, to use it in the car, sending video to my headrest screens FROM a USB thumb drive. So I'd need USB+HDMI out, plus charging. That would be great to have. But only playing videos from USB drive WHILE CHARGING it would be enough for me. Although there are dongles for the Note 2 that would allow HDMI+Charging, there is nothing AT ALL in the market that would allow USB HOST+Charging capabities. Not an Android phone, not a tablet (other than Toshiba/Acer with USB ports on the side).
johnko1 said:
Did anyone tried the version with the hdmi?If it works,it could be a good alternative to official smart dock (100$)
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I think MHL will not work because the 11 pin vs 5 pin connector we have like the Galaxy S3
Found this comment on amazon:
This thing is magic! All of these different ports in one simple accessory is brilliant! They don't claim that MHL on this unit works with the Samsung Galaxy S3 and sure enough MHL does not. Everything else does though. Having all of these ports on one small accessory makes the most of any compatible smart phone.
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But if you also use a Micro USB 5 Pin To 11 Pin (4$ from ebay) I guess it would work
SyCoQC said:
But if you also use a Micro USB 5 Pin To 11 Pin (4$ from ebay) I guess it would work
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Yes, I'd think so. Still curious about using the USB host while charging.
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RipplingHurst said:
Yes, I'd think so. Still curious about using the USB host while charging.
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Maybe not, from the Amazon reviews:
cannot charge and use usb device at the same time.
plug in charger and usb device is disabled.
fails on nexus 7 and galaxy note.
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Chances that it would work on the Note 2 are slim I fear.
Anyway I will probably get the older version with the card reader and usb port,it is more portable!
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-S2-Mu...qid=1354305907&sr=1-2&keywords=Juiced+Systems
and when the official smart dock will get cheaper,I will buy it for sure

powered otg cable for chromecast

sorry if this question has been asked already but i looked around and cant find a answer. other than building your own, where can i buy/order one in the US? I want to root my new chromecast but cant find one. a link would be greatly appreciated
dcmbullet said:
sorry if this question has been asked already but i looked around and cant find a answer. other than building your own, where can i buy/order one in the US? I want to root my new chromecast but cant find one. a link would be greatly appreciated
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http://www.miniinthebox.com/usb-fem...msung-galaxy-s3-i9300-and-others_p504487.html here you go m8
bormeth said:
http://www.miniinthebox.com/usb-fem...msung-galaxy-s3-i9300-and-others_p504487.html here you go m8
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are you sure this is the cable needed to root the chromecast? i appreciate the help
Here's another one that's 20c cheaper.
usb-female-to-micro-usb-male-micro-usb-female-otg-cable
Amazon, eBay or even mom-and-pops electronics store, if you can find one nearby, should have it. Or the guy with computers/electronics in the last row of your local flea market may have one....
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Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I had read that if you have a simple powered usb hub, that will work also?
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pdaddy said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I had read that if you have a simple powered usb hub, that will work also?
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i would also love to know if this is true because i can always find one of those
dcmbullet said:
i would also love to know if this is true because i can always find one of those
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A powered USB hub should work Just test it out, the worst thing that could happen is that it will boot stock image, just pull the power to stop it.
Hey guys.
I'm in NYC for a few days and I'm looking for an OTG cable, powered or not. At best buy and at radioshack they look at me like I'm asking for the impossible. I'll be in towns until Tuesday, and I'd like to ask if anyone knows a store where I could buy this cable.
Thanks in advance.
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loplo said:
Hey guys.
I'm in NYC for a few days and I'm looking for an OTG cable, powered or not. At best buy and at radioshack they look at me like I'm asking for the impossible. I'll be in towns until Tuesday, and I'd like to ask if anyone knows a store where I could buy this cable.
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Sorry to say, I have yet to see a powered OTG cable in a retail store, even my geeky local "has a majority of stuff Monoprice carries" store does not have this particular type of cable.
If B&H Photo/Video has these in stock, it should work (but it'll cost more than getting the OTG cable on eBay)
Pioneer DJC-WeCAi 2.6' DJ Controller Cable - $29.00
Neutrik NAUSB-B USB Female Type-A to Type-B Converter - $5.21 (If you can find an equivalent that's not designed for panel mount, all the better)
Comprehensive On-The-Go USB A Female to Micro USB B Male Adapter Cable (4") - $2.99
-OR- NTW USB Type A Female To Micro USB Type B 5-pin On-the-Go (OTG) Pigtail Adapter - 4" - $5.99
-OR- StarTech Micro USB Male to USB OTG Host Adapter Female (5") - $5.99
$37.20 or $40.20 (if you go with a more-expensive OTG adapter) plus tax...
more expensive than the Chromecast itself but everyone has priorities.
Connections would be:
Pioneer cable RED A (flat) end --> Chromecast wall power adapter
Pioneer cable BLACK A (flat) end --> USB OTG adapter cable
Pioneer cable B (square) end --> USB A-B converter --> plug your USB Stick in here
USB OTG adapter cable --> Chromecast
You might find the right parts to get this cheaper, you just need to plan it out in your head. I was just sticking with stuff B&H has since they're in NYC.
Thanks,
I was planning a visit to B&H, but now it became mandatory.
I'll try the one from #3. I could wait until I get home, but can't leave NYC without rooting or bricking my Chromecast, in my hotel room.
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loplo said:
Thanks,
I was planning a visit to B&H, but now it became mandatory.
I'll try the one from #3. I could wait until I get home, but can't leave NYC without rooting or bricking my Chromecast, in my hotel room.
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Just so we're 100% clear, you'll need 3 total pieces to make it work - the Pioneer cable, the USB A female to B female adapter, and one of the OTG cables.
I also hope you've already checked your serial number against the rootable serial numbers and you know that the hotel's TV may not have HDMI enabled, and even if it does, its WiFi probably won't allow Chromecast to work.
If you brought your own wireless router, then you only have to deal with the TV though. Actually, if possible, I would take everything you need
with you to B&H. If you explain what you're trying to do, they might let you borrow an input on one of their TVs - then you won't have to worry about the hotel TV being locked, unless you already know it's not.
Good luck!
Just to add these cables are usefull for more than just hacking a Chromecast.
I use one to connect Hard Drives to my Xoom (Tablet) since my ROM supports OTG.
Sn are 3920 3921 3922, this shouldn't be a problem. Ref cables I'll take a look at the links later at the hotel. Thanks for your input.
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USB 3 to Gigabit Ethernet

Anyone know if any of these adapters work through the dock?
Was thinking of getting this as it does mention Android but that's not very specific or doesn't really mean much
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10314&cs_id=1031403&p_id=11195&seq=1&format=2
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Anyone know if any of these adapters work through the dock?
Was thinking of getting this as it does mention Android but that's not very specific or doesn't really mean much
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?c_id=103&cp_id=10314&cs_id=1031403&p_id=11195&seq=1&format=2
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http://www.amazon.com/BobjGear-Ethernet-Ultrabooks-ChromeOS-Included/dp/B007RTACDM?tag=twnene-20
did some googling to see if it was possible, and this one will work. first review said you can use it through settings without an app. The one you posted should work the same way.
Thanks for the reply, that was my thought so I ordered it anyway.
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In case anyone was wondering, this just got delivered.
I plugged it into the Dock and right away in the notification it says Ethernet port is detected. I plugged in a cable and it works right away.
Now I can get internet in our crappy other offices.
Very happy especially for $15.
Sleeepy2 said:
In case anyone was wondering, this just got delivered.
I plugged it into the Dock and right away in the notification it says Ethernet port is detected. I plugged in a cable and it works right away.
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Is this the adapter from Monoprice, or the one from Amazon?
EDIT: Actually, I just noticed that the one on Amazon is 100M rather than 1G ethernet, so I assume you went with Monoprice.
elborak said:
Is this the adapter from Monoprice, or the one from Amazon?
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Monoprice
Only $15
You need to stick to something with the AX88772 chipset. The AX88178 might work - mixed danswers around the web on that one. Definately don't get anything with the SMSC LAN7500 chipset either. Stay far away from the AX88179. I bought a StarTech with that chipset and it did not work in any Android device I have.
Finally I bought the one Asus makes one for $19.99 on Amazon - has the AX88772 and works just fine (the Asus connect dock for the TF201/300/700's has that chip in it too so I knew it would work - took mine apart to find out what was in it).
Sleeepy2 - Is that adapter USB 2.0 or USB 3.0 ?
The reason that I asked - on monoprice.com written USB 3.0 and the the color of socket - really blue.
But on ebay from the same seller USB 2.0. From Amazon - BobjGear-Ethernet - USB 2.0
Cadstar - Same things, I bought from Gigabit usb 3.0 - chipset AX88179 - working with Win 7..8 and linux , but not android and Asus tf701
Not really sure, any idea how I can check?
1. The type A connection (the "standard" USB connection that plugs into your computer), should be blue, like: media.bestofmicro.com/USB3-SuperSpeed-external-storage,4-B-252875-13.jpg
2. Speed. You really can feel it if you copy few giga via cable.
Well it is blue and it seems fast. The sticker on it also says USB 3 so I will go with yes it is
Thanks, I intend to buy.
Maybe someone will be useful.
My old Trendnet TU2-ET100 h/w: 3.0 (AX88772 chipset) works great in our device!
Speed ​​Ethernet even slightly higher than over WiFi

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