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Hey guys, i was just searching some cases and accessories for my LG Revolution and i found this: http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-1800mah-extended-battery-for-lg-revolution.html
I was wondering if anyone else ran across this, or better yet, has this to give me some insight on purchasing it or not. Especially with Minecraft Pocket Edition coming out I am going to be doing a lot of 'battery tests'
Edit: Here is a new link with the battery actually in stock! http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUGEN-POWER...ccessories&hash=item5d3074f878#ht_5858wt_1348
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Hey guys, i was just searching some cases and accessories for my LG Revolution and i found this: http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-1800mah-extended-battery-for-lg-revolution.html
I was wondering if anyone else ran across this, or better yet, has this to give me some insight on purchasing it or not. Especially with Minecraft Pocket Edition coming out I am going to be doing a lot of 'battery tests'
Edit: Here is a new link with the battery actually in stock! http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUGEN-POWER...ccessories&hash=item5d3074f878#ht_5858wt_1348
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Anything called MUGEN POWER makes me question it.... same stuff is out there for laptops which are usually junk
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Anything called MUGEN POWER makes me question it.... same stuff is out there for laptops which are usually junk
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That was my first thought... I've seen a researching claiming that Mugen had been passing off batteries with far higher mAH than what they actually claim (as a matter of fact, they stated in many cases, their high mAH batteries were worse than stock).
If anyone goes for this, I'd be curious to see a live study on it.
mugen power? they make honda parts
Dang, was looking for a better or 2nd battery for mine - guess I'll keep looking
Anybody know if the Revolution's battery bay is the same as any of LG's other current models?
Seidio has one of their slightly-denser batteries available with compatibility listed as "LG Thrill 4G/Optimus 3D/LG G2X/Optimus 2X." Capacity on it is 1750.
I obviously can't link to it yet, but I imagine people can figure this out: seidioonline_com/product-p/basi17lgthr.htm
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Hey guys, i was just searching some cases and accessories for my LG Revolution and i found this: http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-1800mah-extended-battery-for-lg-revolution.html
I was wondering if anyone else ran across this, or better yet, has this to give me some insight on purchasing it or not. Especially with Minecraft Pocket Edition coming out I am going to be doing a lot of 'battery tests'
Edit: Here is a new link with the battery actually in stock! http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUGEN-POWER...ccessories&hash=item5d3074f878#ht_5858wt_1348
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They have a 99.9% positive feedback rating. I'll pick one up when I get paid on the 15th and see how it does.
AplMik24 said:
Hey guys, i was just searching some cases and accessories for my LG Revolution and i found this: http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/mugen-power-1800mah-extended-battery-for-lg-revolution.html
I was wondering if anyone else ran across this, or better yet, has this to give me some insight on purchasing it or not. Especially with Minecraft Pocket Edition coming out I am going to be doing a lot of 'battery tests'
Edit: Here is a new link with the battery actually in stock! http://www.ebay.com/itm/MUGEN-POWER...ccessories&hash=item5d3074f878#ht_5858wt_1348
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I think you should go to their official facebook page and check tons of reviews that they post there:
http://facebook.com/mugenpowerbatteries
I use 3300mAh on my Nexus S and I'm happy because the phone lives for 1.5-2 days. Mugen guyes definitely suffer from tons of fakes produced in China.
I'd rather buy 2 oem ones for $20. They're like $11 on ebay. $43 for a battery with 300 more mah? Doesn't sound like the best the best spend of cash personally
I just picked one up. I've been through 2 cycles so far and I'm getting slightly better battery life. The packaging says to go through 3-5 cycles before I'm going to see an increase. I'm going to start carrying 2 batteries as I usually only get about 8-10 hours of battery life and that just doesn't work for me as I use this phone for work and it is not always near a charger. I'll let everyone know as I have more use with it.
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I just picked one up. I've been through 2 cycles so far and I'm getting slightly better battery life. The packaging says to go through 3-5 cycles before I'm going to see an increase. I'm going to start carrying 2 batteries as I usually only get about 8-10 hours of battery life and that just doesn't work for me as I use this phone for work and it is not always near a charger. I'll let everyone know as I have more use with it.
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Thanks, please keep us posted. I'm generally leery of aftermarket batteries since they usually don't work as advertised or worse yet, leak or explode. But if this works well i'd welcome the extra battery life.
x2 dude thanks for checking this out, ill be watching
I wouldn't buy any battery unless its from stock or Seido. I had a non-stock battery that was from ebay. Brand New. It was fried in a week.
so how is the battery life now that you have had it for a while? is the 1800 mah worth it?
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so how is the battery life now that you have had it for a while? is the 1800 mah worth it?
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So, I've had the battery about 2 weeks now. Probably been through about 10-12 cycles (I like to full kill my battery before charging). I'm seeing an increase in battery life, not exceptionally significant, but an increase. I would say about 2-3 extra hours with normal use and a much better idle drain (approx 5-7% per hour)
I would say that it was definitely worth the cost. I still have my other battery and a wall charger for it because when I'm traveling, I will need two batteries for sure (late nights and such). BTW, I'm running Re-Homed with Launcher Pro. I do fair amount of texting, calling, surfing. I have all processes automated on the data side with 2 e-mails being pushed, Facebook, and Twitter. I'm a relatively heavy user of date, almost 2gig per month.
Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
EDIT: Okay, so I was out of town this weekend and I'm thinking I am going to need to get a different phone. Even with the battery, I'm still disappointed with the battery life. If I have a long day and night, my phone has no chance to make it. Really sucks! Not sure what I am going to do, but this won't work. I think the 4g just kills the battery.
ok that sounds good to me... Thanks for doing the trial on this, and I would agree it seems worth the money.. 2 or 3 hours at the end of the day is definitely worth it.
dmtaub said:
So, I've had the battery about 2 weeks now. Probably been through about 10-12 cycles (I like to full kill my battery before charging). I'm seeing an increase in battery life, not exceptionally significant, but an increase. I would say about 2-3 extra hours with normal use and a much better idle drain (approx 5-7% per hour)
I would say that it was definitely worth the cost. I still have my other battery and a wall charger for it because when I'm traveling, I will need two batteries for sure (late nights and such). BTW, I'm running Re-Homed with Launcher Pro. I do fair amount of texting, calling, surfing. I have all processes automated on the data side with 2 e-mails being pushed, Facebook, and Twitter. I'm a relatively heavy user of date, almost 2gig per month.
Hope that helps. Let me know if you have any other questions.
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I did 10 GB in two days last week...Netflix anyone know about cases that support the extended battery?
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Android Power said:
I did 10 GB in two days last week...Netflix anyone know about cases that support the extended battery?
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You're there reason we have tiered data plans
Don't know about cases.
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You're there reason we have tiered data plans
Don't know about cases.
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You're not grandfathered in to unlimited data? Sucks to be you! LOL j/k.
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You're not grandfathered in to unlimited data? Sucks to be you! LOL j/k.
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I had to just recently switch due to a job change. Got what they had.
Today I took my phone off charge at 3.30pm, I'm on 50% with adaptive brightness off. My SOT is 2hrs 10mins, during which I've used WhatsApp, texted, used Chrome, played some music and YouTube videos, and played Temple Run for 20mins. I also have Facebook running, but I haven't used it. It's 7.45pm now, and my phone is at 51% with an estimated time of 5hrs remaining.
So that's 3.5hrs off charge, with about 2hrs SOT time, and I'm on 51%.
Does this sound average for the Nexus 6 or is my battery draining more so than normal?
That sounds way below average. I'm at 49% after 10 hours of heavy use. At least 2 hours internet and 45 min of talk time.
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That sounds way below average. I'm at 49% after 10 hours of heavy use. At least 2 hours internet and 45 min of talk time.
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I have a super hard time believing that you had 10 hours of heavy use or we think heavy use are two different things.
To OP check out the battery life thread in general, could be a variety of rogue apps that are draining in background. If you don't turn things off I'm not surprised if you get around 4.5 hours of SOT
Is there a way to tell how many hours since charge? I just see that I have 12 hrs left
Yes, that is low in my opinion. On similar usage I typically get 6+ SOT 100% to 15%. Probably 75% WiFi, 25% LTE. Auto brightness.
This is about right. On my 3rd nexus 6 and they all exhibited the same behavior. I'm a heavy user as well and lucky if I get 5 hours sot. I had a short stint with a 6+ where I measured bit one day to give me a freakish 9.5hrs when I got down to 4%. I only hope things would get better for the battery as time passes. This is the perfect phone for me in every way except battery life.
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This is about right. On my 3rd nexus 6 and they all exhibited the same behavior. I'm a heavy user as well and lucky if I get 5 hours sot. I had a short stint with a 6+ where I measured bit one day to give me a freakish 9.5hrs when I got down to 4%. I only hope things would get better for the battery as time passes. This is the perfect phone for me in every way except battery life.
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You cant accurately measure SOT on iOS so I have a hard time believing this. I have several friends with the 6+ that barely get through the day here at my university, then again I can't vouch for what they do on their phones.
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You cant accurately measure SOT on iOS so I have a hard time believing this. I have several friends with the 6+ that barely get through the day here at my university, then again I can't vouch for what they do on their phones.
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Believe me, on a holiday break without anything better to do you can easily measure it lol
Its incredible battery wise and may be as a phone if you ca stomache iOs, i couldnt.
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Believe me, on a holiday break without anything better to do you can easily measure it lol
Its incredible battery wise and may be as a phone if you ca stomache iOs, i couldnt.
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What I'm staying is unless you have a stopwatch and can reproduce it accurately then it's hard to prove. I'm not necessarily saying your wrong, but it's hard to believe an iPhone is getting that kind of battery life, especially from what I have seen.
Now I'm not saying it's impossible but it's not something you see everyday. Its hard to measure something like SOT accurately without a built in system setting or app monitoring it. You can see why I have doubt's, but I appreciate you posting your experience.
This question makes no sense, as every battery thread. Battery is subjective, there is no such thing as "average" battery life. It all depends on how you use your phone and how your phone is set up. Everybody has their own kind of apps, setups, carriers.
The better signal strength you have in terms of carrier cellular data, the better battery you'll have.
Depending on what you do on your phone determines battery life. Yeah you can have 6+ hours SOT, but if you play games or watch videos then your battery life will be different from everybody else. Does that mean you have "poor" battery life? No, you just put your phone to more heavy tasks that consumed more battery life.
The way I see battery life, if I was able to end the day without my phone going down to 0% then it did its job. If I have problems with battery life, I'm only 15 minutes away from a quick Turbo Charge up to ~60% or get a portable charger if you don't have access to a wall outlet.
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What I'm staying is unless you have a stopwatch and can reproduce it accurately then it's hard to prove. I'm not necessarily saying your wrong, but it's hard to believe an iPhone is getting that kind of battery life, especially from what I have seen.
Now I'm not saying it's impossible but it's not something you see everyday. Its hard to measure something like SOT accurately without a built in system setting or app monitoring it. You can see why I have doubt's, but I appreciate you posting your experience.
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No offense taken at all. Quite the opposite, i completely inderstand where you're coming from. I have doubts myself when someone says they're heavy users on nexus 6 and get 8hrs sot. Everyones usage is pretty unique to them and can shift their sot numbers considerably to either side.
That being said and that i got that out of the way lol, what I meant when i said I had a lot of time on my hand is that i really had a lot of time towaste, that 9.5hrs was spent in one sitting believe or not. Most of it was binging on Netflix and the remainder was browsing on safari. I pretty much use my Nexus 6 the same way where its strictly split between Netflix/yiutube and chrome. Most if it on Wifi.
I didn't install any apps on top of stock in either phone except for google maps on iOS and adaway/titanium/greenify on nexus 6. I use the browser for everything else like facebook etc. And i dont play any games on my phones. May be my sot on the 6+ would've been different if my usage was different, but for my use case and setup the 6+ had the much better battery life.
However i ended up going back to the nexus 6 because its the better phone overall imo. I just need to find a way to improve the battery. I was hoping greenify would help a lot, but it didnt help much so far. My galaxy nexus had horrid battery life BUT the battery was replaceable and that made all the difference in the world, whuch this phone sadly lacks.
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No offense taken at all. Quite the opposite, i completely inderstand where you're coming from. I have doubts myself when someone says they're heavy users on nexus 6 and get 8hrs sot. Everyones usage is pretty unique to them and can shift their sot numbers considerably to either side.
That being said and that i got that out of the way lol, what I meant when i said I had a lot of time on my hand is that i really had a lot of time towaste, that 9.5hrs was spent in one sitting believe or not. Most of it was binging on Netflix and the remainder was browsing on safari. I pretty much use my Nexus 6 the same way where its strictly split between Netflix/yiutube and chrome. Most if it on Wifi.
I didn't install any apps on top of stock in either phone except for google maps on iOS and adaway/titanium/greenify on nexus 6. I use the browser for everything else like facebook etc. And i dont play any games on my phones. May be my sot on the 6+ would've been different if my usage was different, but for my use case and setup the 6+ had the much better battery life.
However i ended up going back to the nexus 6 because its the better phone overall imo. I just need to find a way to improve the battery. I was hoping greenify would help a lot, but it didnt help much so far. My galaxy nexus had horrid battery life BUT the battery was replaceable and that made all the difference in the world, whuch this phone sadly lacks.
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I see, thank you for clarifying your usage. If you want better battery life I recommend trying Franco kernel with Vomer Tweaks. I had 7.5 hours SOT with 25% battery left before I flashed a updated ROM and made a TWRP backup. I could have easily made it to 8.5-9hours SOT, however it was already 2300 and I didn't feel like staring at my screen until 0100 just to see if I could get more SOT. My phone was on all day since 0730 that morning, including time I used Bluetooth for GP music at the gym and some casting to my Nexus Player. Good battery life is possible but as you said everyone is different.
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What I'm staying is unless you have a stopwatch and can reproduce it accurately then it's hard to prove. I'm not necessarily saying your wrong, but it's hard to believe an iPhone is getting that kind of battery life, especially from what I have seen.
Now I'm not saying it's impossible but it's not something you see everyday. Its hard to measure something like SOT accurately without a built in system setting or app monitoring it. You can see why I have doubt's, but I appreciate you posting your experience.
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I see, thank you for clarifying your usage. If you want better battery life I recommend trying Franco kernel with Vomer Tweaks. I had 7.5 hours SOT with 25% battery left before I flashed a updated ROM and made a TWRP backup. I could have easily made it to 8.5-9hours SOT, however it was already 2300 and I didn't feel like staring at my screen until 0100 just to see if I could get more SOT. My phone was on all day since 0730 that morning, including time I used Bluetooth for GP music at the gym and some casting to my Nexus Player. Good battery life is possible but as you said everyone is different.
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Wow that sounds impressive and really all that i need as sot goes. I'll def read up on how to do it and give it a try. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for the replies guys.
Okay, so went to bed, phone was at 79% battery. This morning it was about 74% or so. Been on Chrome checking stuff, it's dropped to about 65% in half an hour. Screen brightness is around 30%. WiFi on, half cellular signal. I'm not doing anything intensive. My SoT so far is 1hr 40mins. Standby time is 12hrs.
So tl;dr - dropped 5% over 12hrs on standby, then 9% in half an hour with the screen on at 30% brightness using mainly Chrome.
I guess am just a little concerned in case I have a defective battery or something. I've alrady had one replacement already due to the camera arriving damaged.
What do you guys think?
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Thanks for the replies guys.
Okay, so went to bed, phone was at 79% battery. This morning it was about 74% or so. Been on Chrome checking stuff, it's dropped to about 65% in half an hour. Screen brightness is around 30%. WiFi on, half cellular signal. I'm not doing anything intensive. My SoT so far is 1hr 40mins. Standby time is 12hrs.
So tl;dr - dropped 5% over 12hrs on standby, then 9% in half an hour with the screen on at 30% brightness using mainly Chrome.
I guess am just a little concerned in case I have a defective battery or something. I've alrady had one replacement already due to the camera arriving damaged.
What do you guys think?
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Sounds about right. 9% in half an hour would give you 5 hrs SOT, and thats about average.
If you were doing Franko kernel with volmer tweaks that would be low. They do a lot to slow processor down and reduce capability to save battery, but you probably wouldn't be able to tell except for the occasional lag while scrolling a web page.
I get about 3.5-4 hours SOT. Seems fine to me. I don't do anything whatsoever to save battery. I keep the screen brightness how I like it.
LordGrahf said:
Wow that sounds impressive and really all that i need as sot goes. I'll def read up on how to do it and give it a try. Thanks for sharing!
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Here is mine so far today. The reboot is from when I updated Franco kernel to r4. I used google play music at the gym and Bluetooth in my car driving to and from the gym and store. Battery life can be as good as you want it to be.
Edit: also I was only on WiFi for 40 minutes and LTE the rest of the time
So I've been pretty unimpressed by battery life so far. Barely getting 3.5 hours
Anyone else getting better?
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So I've been pretty unimpressed by battery life so far. Barely getting 3.5 hours
Anyone else getting better?
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Gonna need more info than that. You talking screen on time? or total? under what settings? full screen brightness?
Yeah screen on time with auto screen brightness. Pretty much on LTE all day. Only disabled bloat apps.
Full day with it, unplugged at 3am and at 8:38pm cst, I am still at 48%. Now I don't use facebook or Tweeter so that helps my battery life. Wifi at work weak and slow so I am on LTE most of the time.
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Same here. Only around 4 hrs with regular use. This device needs root.
Easily getting through a day with the phone. Most of the bloat disabled, moderate usage, Bluetooth/NFC/Wi-Fi always on, though mostly on LTE. I certainly don't expect this thing to last like my Note 4, but I'm pleased with the battery life. I get home with time to spare, and plug it in every night like any other phone, so its all good.
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Same here. Only around 4 hrs with regular use. This device needs root.
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Root doesn't mean better battery life. My nexus 5 had about the same battery and got about the same battery life as my s6. And that's rooted, stock, slimrom, and cataclysm. My G3 has about 500 more mAh than the s6 and I get about 5 hours of screen time. Stock battery was better than cyanogen battery.
It's not 2012 anymore. Root is almost obsolete. It's good for app removal, rooted app functionality, and customization. Even if underclocked and undervolted it doesn't change dramatically. If u want a better battery, buy a phone with a bigger battery. MOST people don't look at their phone for 25% of their awake hours (if avg sleep is 8 hrs.) The s6 will give u 3.5-4hrs of screen time on 14-15 hours of use. That is plenty for MOST users
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Easily getting through a day with the phone. Most of the bloat disabled, moderate usage, Bluetooth/NFC/Wi-Fi always on, though mostly on LTE. I certainly don't expect this thing to last like my Note 4, but I'm pleased with the battery life. I get home with time to spare, and plug it in every night like any other phone, so its all good.
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Same here!
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We badly need root. Rooting my phone has always improved the battery life and performance of your phone.
Battery life today was better I think. Screen-on time didn't even show up in the battery usage list, so i'm not sure how much it used. 20.5hrs since unplugging with 14% left.
This will definitely be a phone I'll have to get rid of after a year. With constant charging and a sealed battery, this device really doesn't have a long life. That's my main concern.
Someone in another thread turned off Enhanced LTE (Voice over LTE) under network settings and saw a much better battery life (or lack of drain).
I am experiencing insane WiFi battery drain. I am foregoing the use of WiFi in the mean time. Seems to help.
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I am experiencing insane WiFi battery drain. I am foregoing the use of WiFi in the mean time. Seems to help.
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Same. I tested mine and the drain is far less with WiFi off all together. No WiFi and I can get 6-7+ sot.
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dont know how true this is. i updated mine and going to see if it does indeed improve battery life.
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Same. I tested mine and the drain is far less with WiFi off all together. No WiFi and I can get 6-7+ sot.
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dont know how true this is. i updated mine and going to see if it does indeed improve battery life.
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I updated the Samsung push service and it seems to have improved battery life for me. I will also try turning off the HD Voice and see how it performs..
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I updated the Samsung push service and it seems to have improved battery life for me. I will also try turning off the HD Voice and see how it performs..
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I updated mine plus turned off Wi-Fi and the hotspots setting in advanced Wi-Fi and battery life has improved. I still see screen as being one of the lowest factors for battery consumption. Our gs6 must have a very battery efficient display. Android os is now my top battery drain. I'm hoping an update to android 5.1 improves the system battery usage. I know it did on my nexus 6.
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if you heavily use it well.. thats pretty normal.. mine can last a day if i don't use it for browsing just sms.. but for calling it would mean smaller life
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So I've been pretty unimpressed by battery life so far. Barely getting 3.5 hours
Anyone else getting better?
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I was getting horrible battery life like you because of cell standby but I disabled enhanced lte and did a cache delete in recovery and now I'm getting almost 5.5 hours of screen on time with brightness set at 25%-50% on WiFi/lte. If you want I have screenshot.
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I was getting horrible battery life like you because of cell standby but I disabled enhanced lte and did a cache delete in recovery and now I'm getting almost 5.5 hours of screen on time with brightness set at 25%-50% on WiFi/lte. If you want I have screenshot.
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I can vouch for this myself. I was getting pretty bad drain to the point where I was about to return the phone.
The cache wipe seemed to work wonders. Along with deleting and reinstalling google play services (I searched google play services in chrome, clicked the link and jninstalled reinstalled uodates , then did cache wipe)
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Battery life seems great to me.
My battery life has been excellent with SOT around 6 hours with a full days use, unless I actually talk on my phone. I noticed many people talk about SOT but when I see their battery screenshots, I don't see much talk time. When I use my phone for an extended period of time, over 1.5 hours, it really seems to drain my Note 5 down. I saw the same issue on my S6, and I'm wondering if this has anything to do with VoLTE or is this just normal and I never noticed. My talk time drains the battery at almost the same rate as SOT.
Does anyone have similar experience? Is this related to VoLTE taxing the battery more than CDMA when actually talking? Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thanks!
So I bought the new S21 Ultra on the pre order the day it was announced. I was one of the lucky ones to get early so I could leave a review.
Coming from a Note 10+ that I had for a year and a half, I was really excited for the S21 Ultra, but was really disappointed with the battery life. I've had the phone for 5 days now and since the very beginning I've not been able to use the phone for the whole day on a single charge. It's been giving me screen on times comparable to my Note 10+ (4/5 hours) which is a much older device, but I thought maybe this was the way all S21 ultra's were behaving, just not very good battery life.
BUT, yesterday all the youtubers started to publish they're videos comparing batteries with older S devices and Iphones and their S21s were doing amazing, giving them screen on times of up to 13 hours!
I contacted support but they said this would be normal as my phone was still learning user patterns... but I'm not sure if that would affect it as bad as it is at the moment.
Also, I installed accubattery which is not 100% reliable but compared it to my note 10+ and it seems that battery health is even lower that my Note (95%)! Which I've had for a year and a half!!!
What do you guys think? Should I send the phone back? I'm really concerned that I just spent all this money on a new phone for it to be so bad with battery.
Try disabling all power management.
In Developer options>standby apps all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is running.
Google Play Services, Backup Transport and Framework are known hogs.
Disable all the bloatware, turn off auto sync for gmail, turn off all feedback.
You'll need to sort it out and optimize it. Took me months to get my 10+ sorted out. Fortunately it's running on Pie so I had more diagnostic options.
Returning is a thought as 5G may have been poorly implemented and another source of power drain. I think everything after the 10+ 4G both hardware and OS are train wrecks... I see very little incentive to "upgrade".
Maybe post screenshots that aren't below 5 kilobytes. Lol. I'm guessing you have an Exynos variant?
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So I bought the new S21 Ultra on the pre order the day it was announced. I was one of the lucky ones to get early so I could leave a review.
Coming from a Note 10+ that I had for a year and a half, I was really excited for the S21 Ultra, but was really disappointed with the battery life. I've had the phone for 5 days now and since the very beginning I've not been able to use the phone for the whole day on a single charge. It's been giving me screen on times comparable to my Note 10+ (4/5 hours) which is a much older device, but I thought maybe this was the way all S21 ultra's were behaving, just not very good battery life.
BUT, yesterday all the youtubers started to publish they're videos comparing batteries with older S devices and Iphones and their S21s were doing amazing, giving them screen on times of up to 13 hours!
I contacted support but they said this would be normal as my phone was still learning user patterns... but I'm not sure if that would affect it as bad as it is at the moment.
Also, I installed accubattery which is not 100% reliable but compared it to my note 10+ and it seems that battery health is even lower that my Note (95%)! Which I've had for a year and a half!!!
What do you guys think? Should I send the phone back? I'm really concerned that I just spent all this money on a new phone for it to be so bad with battery.
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It's too early to judge the battery life, also accu battery app is not good at all, it's not accurate as your own phone's batterymeter.
Also, you need a week or so to make sure the phone get optimised according to your usage.
Does your phone have Exynos 2100 or Snapdragon 888?
Sharpshooterrr said:
Maybe post screenshots that aren't below 5 kilobytes. Lol. I'm guessing you have an Exynos variant?
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Sorry about that ahaha changed it now
nightoo said:
It's too early to judge the battery life, also accu battery app is not good at all, it's not accurate as your own phone's batterymeter.
Also, you need a week or so to make sure the phone get optimised according to your usage.
Does your phone have Exynos 2100 or Snapdragon 888?
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Mine has the Exynos 2100. I was just going off from videos like Mrwhosetheboss. He got 8 hours of screen on time. And he probably tested it when he got the phone no? And I'm litteraly getting half of that... and not even pushing my phone to the limit like he did on his video. I mainly use social media apps and YouTube.
I suggest doing a factory reset before you think about sending the phone back. Also, initially, be careful about what aps you install - try going with a minimal number of aps so you can get an idea of how the battery does when there are no aps that might pull from the battery - after a few days, add all of the aps you have been using (while avoiding any that might be a battery drain) and try for a few more days to see if you are seeing improved battery life. Good luck - hope it all works out for you.
Geekser said:
I suggest doing a factory reset before you think about sending the phone back. Also, initially, be careful about what aps you install - try going with a minimal number of aps so you can get an idea of how the battery does when there are no aps that might pull from the battery - after a few days, add all of the aps you have been using (while avoiding any that might be a battery drain) and try for a few more days to see if you are seeing improved battery life. Good luck - hope it all works out for you.
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Reloads -never- find the root cause and many times even if the problem is "fixed" it eventually returns.
Exceptions; old loads, software induced bootloops, viruses, and major firmware updates.
Expect issues with the 5G devices from poor hardware implementation. No fix for this.
I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
leoking3 said:
I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
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How much with screen off is it sucking down?
If more than 1% @ hr with AOD on it's probably Google and cloud crap running in the background.
You can optimize it to improve performance.
It's easier to do this with Pie though; Q and 11 take away critical tools and use scoped storage which wastes cpu cycles.
Get Karma Firewall and a package disabler like this one;
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
www.packagedisabler.com
Regardless of the model or OS version most carrier phones will need to be optimized for good battery life and optimum performance.
My 10+ was a hot running bandwidth hungry hog until I toned it down. Today it's hard to believe it's that same machine.
You are right, I agree with all you said. It is kinda sad though, as for instance, my ex Asus Zenfone 7 Pro had an absolutely mindblowing battery life, without any tweaks. I just used it. With all the hype around the S21 Ultra, I believed it again. The only Samsung I used with good battery life was S20 FE 5G.
Will give it a go with what you say though, thanks.
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Mine has the Exynos 2100. I was just going off from videos like Mrwhosetheboss. He got 8 hours of screen on time. And he probably tested it when he got the phone no? And I'm litteraly getting half of that... and not even pushing my phone to the limit like he did on his video. I mainly use social media apps and YouTube.
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Well, i believe what you are saying about battery life, but what i have seen so far is promising, i mean when S21 Ultra with Exynos 2100 beats iphone 11 Pro Max and 12 Pro Max, i guess that's a good sign!! But for sure, we use our phones in different way than each others because maybe you use it with 4G/5G enabled almost all the time while these tests are just using Wifi and maybe without any SIM card which means the battery consumption will be minimum at this part.
I have S20 Ultra with Snapdragon 865, i get like an average of 6 hours SoT and if S21 Ultra Exynos gives me the same SoT, i'll be happy!!
SOT is not everything...we travel, we move, you cant accept a phone that gives you 12 hours of standby in total. This is bs and useless, you cant rely on such a phone.
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You are right, I agree with all you said. It is kinda sad though, as for instance, my ex Asus Zenfone 7 Pro had an absolutely mindblowing battery life, without any tweaks. I just used it. With all the hype around the S21 Ultra, I believed it again. The only Samsung I used with good battery life was S20 FE 5G.
Will give it a go with what you say though, thanks.
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My AT&T 10+ was not real bad (or good) the first few days. After enabling power management it went to hell.
Eventually I disabled all power management and one by one tracked down the hogs.
Because of dependencies simply disabling and/or turning off say Google Transport and Google Framework isn't enough, firewall blocking Google Play Services* then clearing data on all 3 periodically finally stopped this hog dead in its tracks. These will run in the background when the screen is off stealing power for nothing. Sometimes the Google apks are misreported as other Google apks presumably because of the interlinking dependencies.
Try using Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker.
Developer options>running apks/cache can also yield clues. With an unrooted phone there's some serious game playing to track this garbage down.
Anything app that's cloud or carrier is bad... lol.
Disable all feedback and syncing except for texting; manually sync gmail.
*needs to be unblocked occasionally for gmail to download and for Playstore (another apk you should disable/firewall block when not using).
Try disabling 5G if you are not using it, for some ppl SmartThings drain a lot of battery but you should see that app in log. Can't wait to get mine, also E2100 and coming from Note 8. Was rly looking to have a 2 day phone.
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Try disabling 5G if you are not using it, for some ppl SmartThings drain a lot of battery but you should see that app in log. Can't wait to get mine, also E2100 and coming from Note 8. Was rly looking to have a 2 day phone.
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That's a thought that's worth a try.
From what I've read even disabling 5G doesn't completely stop it's parasitic battery drain.
Maybe the latest generation chipsets are better but early 5G was poorly implemented giving a marginal speed increase on most phones of 20% when available.
Is this on the snapdragon or exynos variant?
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I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
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So, 15% drain in 2.5 hours with nearly an hour of SOT. 15% is about 1/7 as a fraction. Now, 7 * 50 / 60 = 5.83 hours of SOT and 2.5 * 7 = 17.5 hours total. My Note 10+ (S20 Ultra on order!) doesn't do any better and NEVER did. If I use my phone for 6 hours a day (of SOT) it's pretty much done for.
I think people are being way too picky these days - just complaining to complain. If you really want I'm sure you can tune your phone so it gets 3 days on the battery. It'll suck and not do much of anything but, sure, you can do it. I've got a smartwatch and the same thing applies. I can tune it so it works for two weeks on the battery or I can actually use the thing and get 2-3 days. I choose 2-3 days and have stuff I want to use. I'd rather my phone be reactive and tell me when I've got emails, etc than to get super long battery life and basically have an inert brick in my pocket. I have a cellphone so I can use it for stuff. If that makes the battery not last long, oh well. If it can get 5-7 hours of screen time while also lasting through the day, great.
My 10+ draws roughly 1%@hr* with AOD on.
SOT draw varies between 9-12%@hr
Roughly 10%@hr watching vids on Samsung internet with surfing on Brave being the highest usage.
I consider it fairly optimized at this point.
*4300 mAh battery with little degradation.
No 5G running on Pie so not scoped storage either.
Figures are from a charge range of between roughly 40-65% as I rarely charged beyond 70% or discharge deeper than 30%.
Actual usage be more if I had started at 100% because of the power density difference through the power range ie 1% at 20 is far less watts than 1% at 100%.
A/V=watts. Less voltage means less overall mAh per % plus the additional losses due to voltage stepup power conversionas you dip towards 30% The closer to 100%, the higher the voltage with more available mAhs per battery% as well as less stepup voltage power converter losses.
A phone's wattage and V+'are constant so as the battery voltage decreases it draws more current ie mAhs.
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So, 15% drain in 2.5 hours with nearly an hour of SOT. 15% is about 1/7 as a fraction. Now, 7 * 50 / 60 = 5.83 hours of SOT and 2.5 * 7 = 17.5 hours total. My Note 10+ (S20 Ultra on order!) doesn't do any better and NEVER did. If I use my phone for 6 hours a day (of SOT) it's pretty much done for.
I think people are being way too picky these days - just complaining to complain. If you really want I'm sure you can tune your phone so it gets 3 days on the battery. It'll suck and not do much of anything but, sure, you can do it. I've got a smartwatch and the same thing applies. I can tune it so it works for two weeks on the battery or I can actually use the thing and get 2-3 days. I choose 2-3 days and have stuff I want to use. I'd rather my phone be reactive and tell me when I've got emails, etc than to get super long battery life and basically have an inert brick in my pocket. I have a cellphone so I can use it for stuff. If that makes the battery not last long, oh well. If it can get 5-7 hours of screen time while also lasting through the day, great.
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You are also right, but , when you used something that does both keeping you up to date, and having a brilliant battery life, then it becomes disappointing when you change it for one that doesnt.