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instead of posting "awesome" pictures this phone takes, can we face it that the camera is not one of the best and maybe somebody can help modify some values in order to fix it? if one uses motorola stock camera for example it is obvious that it takes way better pictures than the stock camera our phone comes with, especially in low light environments. thanks!
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persheshhater said:
instead of posting "awesome" pictures this phone takes, can we face it that the camera is not one of the best and maybe somebody can help modify some values in order to fix it? if one uses motorola stock camera for example it is obvious that it takes way better pictures than the stock camera our phone comes with, especially in low light environments. thanks!
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It's not one of the best and neither has anyone claimed it to be the best. It takes decent quality pictures. And frankly for the price it sells it has
a pretty good performace to cost ratio. If you want bette camera's you should look at HTC One, Xperia Z which have better sensors in them.
Picture quality is mostly dependent on sensor used and not much can be done by changing couple of values here and there.
On a side note, Vic Gundotra has said they are planning something big with camera's. So lets wait and watch what they do.
Have you tried using her mode for low light
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[REQ] search before posting
Camera video quality increase (AVC profile high! & level 4) (kernel included!)
Speaker + camera quality.
[TIP] Camera color temperature
NEXUS 4 Camera Issue.. Same as Iphone5
Just because you typed [REQ] at the front of your thread doesn't make it any different than the dozen or so camera threads that already exist.
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Does anyone feel like Nokia lumia 520 camera in low light conditions is better than Xperia ZR ??
Even though we have 13 megapixel, i somehow feel under low light XZR isnt doing that great :/
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Ye i too am very disappointed with the camera..Compared to my previous 8MP Incredible S and 8MP Sensation this is by far inferior.
can only do 9MP 16:9 otherwise make do with 13MP 4:3 and images are very grainy and there is no sharpness at all. would rather have a lagging shutter with good quality images than lag free with noise. the moment you try to zoom.. that's it the whole image distorts.. for my first xperia i am disappointed and thought sony camera would be far more superior than HTC's.
The camera isn't that bad but I agree it isn't the best considering its meant to be Sony's bread and butter. Low light conditions are not as great and may require you to adjust the settings. I know the xperia t and v has better picture quality but I'm sure this could be fixed in a firmware update much like the xperia z had. If you want bad you should try the nexus 4.
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If and when someone upgrades with the 4.2.2 please report what you think of the new camera/drivers
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Settings
Manual settings are far better than the superior settings they gave,
How about focusing?
Any suggestions on the settings for better pictures ?
how do u or what are the so called recommended manual settings?
Manual/Automatic
I have tried various options with very slight changes. It just seems the overall quality is average at best. my sony ericsson T650 3.2megapixel camera from years back produced much better photos than this.
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I have tried various options with very slight changes. It just seems the overall quality is average at best. my sony ericsson T650 3.2megapixel camera from years back produced much better photos than this.
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Yeah right! Such a troll.
Single focus...hdr on, pictures are somewhat better...check these 2 pics...first is far better than second..
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How could you tell, it's two totally different pictures ?
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Yea well..i was jus asking for tips..still the best was the setting I mentioned above..like if u zoom in these pics, first one does not have that noise as second one..i thot thats a factor to compare them..
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Yea well..i was jus asking for tips..still the best was the setting I mentioned above..like if u zoom in these pics, first one does not have that noise as second one..i thot thats a factor to compare them..
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noise depends on the ISO setting usually. a higher setting tends to cause more noise. so u cant compare 2 completely different pix unless u know for sure they were taken under the same lighting conditions, same amount of shake while pressing the camera button, etc.. the auto detection feature may sometimes detect the same situation differently. so it would be better if u take pix of the same subject in manual mode with different settings n then compare them.
also, HDR can cause noise coz it has to take 2 pix in different exposure settings. so if ur hand moves by as less as a millimeter in the time frame required by HDR, there will be a considerable amount of noise. try takin a pic of a moving subject in HDR mode n ull c what i mean
I'm on 4.2.2 and I just tried taking a few pictures indoors on superior auto and they look terrible I'm not sure if it improved from the previous firmware. It's like this camera turns itself into vga mode as soon as the sun goes down. These shots made my old galaxy s2 look like the best camera phone around. I'll just have to play with the settings and find what's best for now. Anyone got recommendations for indoor settings?
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The camera is just not very good it seems. Funny Sony is doing many of the other flagshipcameras this year for other companies but can't het their own app upp to par...
I found that moto x camera is faster and I can't see any big differences in quality and the camera JB + with punchfilter normally gives a little more nicety. Off cource perfectly Clear (etc) from playstore does also work good
Hopefully they'll do some wonder in the next update...
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Excellent in daylight!
I found the camera to be quite exceptional in daytime. The stock camera app processes the photos to increase sharpness. The details while zooming in are good in proper light.
However, the noise increases significantly in low light. The picture is fuzzy when zoomed in.
From my experience, Using the HDR mode is the only way to significantly reduce noise. The "Backlight correction + HDR" mode also works quite well.
Funny thing that the ''Night Mode" gave darker images then normal mode for me.
I just had the best camera experience for night mode shots yet.
I changed the settings to normal with auto flash on and HDR off with EV +1.
The pictures were much sharper but requires you to have a steady hand still it's much better. Got the idea off the Xperia Z forum. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2397058
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Maybe it would help....
It seems that funky camera credits goes to Exmor RS sensor which uses a "stacked structure" that layers a pixel section over a circuit section, which removes the need to confine the pixel and circuit section into a tight space that limits the size of each element. By fitting bigger components in the same area, the sensor has a more efficient design that captures a higher quality image. Higher noise too, I'd say.
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/201208/12-107E/
Its the same camera as in S4 so it's most of all the driver/hardware behind the sensor that's not very good. Sony's just not very good putting stuff together. I have had a few and none is spectacular. Well see next generation of soft and updates, hopefully they'll put some effort in. To have a bit nicer photos indoor the same approach as in my S4, hdr is working ok.
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So what you guys think about the ZR's camera. Is it good or not ?! I plan to buy it next few months but consider more about it first.
Depends on your budget and if U really need a wwaterproof phone I'll presume. The camera is not the best but the phone is nice.
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With many people having both phones with latest updates, perhaps someone can do a real world camera test and post images?
I actually own both, just picked up a Nexus 5 a few hours ago. I'll post some pictures under controlled conditions tomorrow or Saturday, maybe.
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I have both and have some sample photos to share. From my tests they are fairly close. In about 60-70% of the photos, the Moto is better. The Moto generally has higher contrast and saturation. The images are often sharper but also have more noise. The biggest difference is the aspect ratio. The Nexus is 4/3 and the Moto us 16/9.
Current galaxy nexus owner with a houseful of toddlers. Debating moto x vs n5. Appreciate the pics, but what about moving subjects? Anyone with some average case snapshot comparisons? What about general thoughts on camera launch speed, autofocus speed, and shutter lag between the two?
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Damm... what a diference @xpersimmon
With this latest updates, I would really appreciate a new compare with top cameras around... like iPhone 5S, S4 and Lumia's...
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I have both and have some sample photos to share. From my tests they are fairly close. In about 60-70% of the photos, the Moto is better. The Moto generally has higher contrast and saturation. The images are often sharper but also have more noise. The biggest difference is the aspect ratio. The Nexus is 4/3 and the Moto us 16/9.
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Is your camera updated on Nexus ?...pictures look washed out. I thought they fixed focus issue and the whole point of OIS is to take sharp pictures
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Is your camera updated on Nexus ?...pictures look washed out. I thought they fixed focus issue and the whole point of OIS is to take sharp pictures
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I am using the latest software on both phones. The moto is 4.4 with camera version 3.1.41.2. The Nexus is 4.4.2. They both miss focus sometimes. I think the Nexus looks even more washed out because the Moto is over processed.
These are all casual snapshots. I didn't frame them exactly the same but tried to get them close. Here are some additional test shots, this time from outdoors. Let me know if you want to see specific examples.
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What about general thoughts on camera launch speed, autofocus speed, and shutter lag between the two?
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Hello Chevlar. The launch speed, shutter lag, and autofocus speed are fairly close from what I can tell. The launch speed on the Nexus may be slightly faster, but it varies. Autofocus accuracy they are both hit and miss. Some shots are clearly not focused accurately on both cameras. I don't have any moving subjects available. The Moto tends to use a higher shutter speed and ISO which would work a bit better if all else is equal.
Here are some more shots from today. In these cases the Nexus outperforms in the Roku box, the sculpture. The Moto is better in the sailor painting. The fruit, tree flower, and bricks are similar. On the plumeria the Moto focused in a different place.
In summary:
Moto-X:
16/9 aspect ratio
misses focus sometimes
generally higher contrast and saturation (somewhat over-processed)
somewhat sharper but also more noise
tends to choose higher ISO and higher shutter by about 1/2 of a stop
Nexus-5:
4/3 aspect ratio
misses focus sometimes
lower contrast, a bit "washed out"
lower noise, smoother (more noise reduction?)
tends to choose lower ISO and lower shutter speed by about 1/2 stop.
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I am using the latest software on both phones. The moto is 4.4 with camera version 3.1.41.2. The Nexus is 4.2.2. They both miss focus sometimes. I think the Nexus looks even more washed out because the Moto is over processed.
These are all casual snapshots. I didn't frame them exactly the same but tried to get them close. Here are some additional test shots, this time from outdoors. Let me know if you want to see specific examples.
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The Nexus 5 shipped with 4.4, not 4.2.2. Do you mean you are running 4.4.2?
As for the other poster who asked about launch speed: The Moto X blows the nexus 5 out of the water in terms of speed. The moto X also loves to raise the ISO like crazy to maintain a faster shutter speed, which would be better suited for taking photos of toddlers. The Nexus 5, on the other hand, likes to leverage its optical image stabilization to lower its shutter speed and its ISO, leading to less noisy pictures. This makes it suited for photographing still subjects, but not fast moving ones.You might think to get around this by installing a third party camera app, but the one I have tried (Camera Zoom FX), does not allow changing of ISO to boost shutter speed. The moto X, on the other hand, does have support for ISO adjustments in Camera Zoom FX.
Comparing the shutter speed taken in various pictures the Nexus 5 likes to stay at around 1/30, whereas the Moto X does 1/40 to 1/50.
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Nexus-5:
4/3 aspect ratio
misses focus sometimes
lower contrast, a bit "washed out"
lower noise, smoother (more noise reduction?)
tends to choose lower ISO and lower shutter speed by about 1/2 stop.
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I think it tends to over expose as well (see the blown out whites in the first flower). I have seen this in numerous other Nexus 5 shots as well.
Yes, the Nexus is running 4.4.2. I am sorry about that typo. I corrected it in the post.
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The Moto X blows the nexus 5 out of the water in terms of speed
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What aspect of speed are you referring to? If I use both cameras quickly, the Nexus fires off the shot before the Moto-X. I am not sure if the delay is due to shutter lag, or focus time. The Moto-X does have a burst mode. If you hold the shutter down it will fire continuously at about 2 shots a second. I don't think the Nexus-5 has burst mode (at least I haven't been able to find it).
Top is N5, bottom is X. Moto X has purple fringing still. This is especially apparent around tree branches. Moto X has too much noise and does not look true to life as the N5 in low light scenarios. N5 has much lower noise in low light. In general N5 color is more accurate. I find indoor pictures on the Moto X look plain bad; it fails to capture incandescent light well and produces a fluorescent light instead. The things that drives me crazy is that red looks like magenta on the Moto X and the purple fringing or tint. Camera is updated as it can be on 4.2.2. Moto X fails badly in a warm scene. If anyone can, please take pictures of red objects.
^ Moto X looks horrible in those low light shots
here are few red photos. one with flash, another with HDR
So from what I see here, the Moto X is better at daytime shots, but is TERRIBLE at night shots (which is weird since every ad I see talks about the low light camera).
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So from what I see here, the Moto X is better at daytime shots, but is TERRIBLE at night shots (which is weird since every ad I see talks about the low light camera).
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Moto X colors look purple or pale even in certain day time shots. Pink fringing on foilage is not good. The blue sky always looks better on the N5. 1st one is Moto X , 2nd is N5. Leaves easily more visible on N5 too.
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Moto X colors look purple or pale even in certain day time shots. Pink fringing on foilage is not good. The blue sky always looks better on the N5. 1st one is Moto X , 2nd is N5. Leaves easily more visible on N5 too.
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I can deal with that, but the low light photos on the X are the worst I've ever seen on a high end smartphone.
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I can deal with that, but the low light photos on the X are the worst I've ever seen on a high end smartphone.
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Yeah it isn't pretty at all no matter how you look at it. IMO, the N5 soundly beats the X in just about every way. It's only close in near/macro shots or so and once I start to take pictures of distance scenes the N5 pulls away. While we're on this topic here's another night shot . All those yellow spots and purple fringing at the edges. Moto X is making the scene much brighter than it actually is.
Here's another example of low indoor lighting. It's not clear to me that the Nexus is better in this situation, but the Moto-X clearly has issues with incandescent lighting. Check out these photos of my calculator. ISO is 640 Moto, 570 Nexus; shutter 1/50 Moto, 1/30 Nexus. Please ignore the dirt
Like I said, the difference in macro shots is much smaller than it is with distant shots. A lot of phone cameras can do good macro shots. Color accuracy is important too besides detail. They need to really come up with a solution to this incandescent problem but maybe it is a hardware limitation that software alone can't overcome.
That last show is pretty interesting, the Nexus looks quite warm and a touch softer. With a little adjusting to post processing and color balance we could be sitting really well with the camera.
Alot of the reviews says, nexus 6 camera experience has been a "hit or miss" from taking a good pic even with HDR on. Would it help to install a new camera app and do some tweakings over it, or better yet use an xposed module (if any) to fix the issue?
I'm a photographer. Here's the thing.
Camera reviews on cell phones are reviewed by gadget freaks, not photographers. They're interested in specs, they think megapixels are important, they don't even mention the important stuff.
Android L is the first OS to have a decent camera api. This will allow the nexus camera - which is only inherently different from the note 4 camera in terms of software - to vastly outperform anything on the market given a good camera app.
This mythical camera app should take advantage of a few things - full manual control. Exposure compensation and AE/AF lock. Auto bracketing. Proper metering, with selections for spot through to matrix. FPS control. Video control with framerate and resolution options, and the ability to manually control or lock exposure and focus. And finally, take advantage of L's .dng output, so we can work on this in lightroom after we're done. I don't trust my $2000 camera to spit out a nice jpg processed the way I want it, I shoot raw, I sure as hell don't trust a phone.
The nexus 6 looks to have some nice hardware. Let the software take advantage of it and you'll be happy.
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I'm a photographer. Here's the thing.
Camera reviews on cell phones are reviewed by gadget freaks, not photographers. They're interested in specs, they think megapixels are important, they don't even mention the important stuff.
Android L is the first OS to have a decent camera api. This will allow the nexus camera - which is only inherently different from the note 4 camera in terms of software - to vastly outperform anything on the market given a good camera app.
This mythical camera app should take advantage of a few things - full manual control. Exposure compensation and AE/AF lock. Auto bracketing. Proper metering, with selections for spot through to matrix. FPS control. Video control with framerate and resolution options, and the ability to manually control or lock exposure and focus. And finally, take advantage of L's .dng output, so we can work on this in lightroom after we're done. I don't trust my $2000 camera to spit out a nice jpg processed the way I want it, I shoot raw, I sure as hell don't trust a phone.
The nexus 6 looks to have some nice hardware. Let the software take advantage of it and you'll be happy.
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Good post. My girlfriend is a photographer but her biggest complaints were:
- The lens should've been bigger (1.5/3 at least - according to her the sheer size of this phone would have allowed for a much bigger lens, even 1.2/3).
- The dual LED flashes would likely overexpose the images due to their placement on the back of the phone. Sure, aesthetically it can look good (depending on your preference) but logically it will risk adding too much exposure to photos. The Note 4, 6+, top Nokia phones with large lenses all have the flashes further away from the lens for example (for good reason).
- The type of flash (LED) wont be as good an xenon flash (or dual). According to her the phone body is definitely thick enough to house the bigger flash; this would reduce noise in the images and provide better lighting/exposure in photos.
She also mentioned that even with a 10/10 camera app which does absolutely everything you want, the photo quality will not be much better (maybe the same as or potentially still worse) compared with the Note 4 or even iPhone 6+. Yes the hardware might be similar but the placement of the flash compared with the Note 4 will affect the way the camera captures photos with flash enabled. As, even though TW in Samsung has major issues it does have very heavily optimised camera software which will always improve - better than every camera app that I personally know of.
Front facing camera however will not complete with the Note 4. From demo's , despite being higher MP than the iPhone 6+, the results are worse. I do not know why, it could be down to the quality of the lens in the front but the Nexus 6 FF camera quality isn't much better than the Nexus 5 (it looks the same to me).
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Good post. My girlfriend is a photographer but her biggest complaints were:
- The lens should've been bigger (1.5/3 at least - according to her the sheer size of this phone would have allowed for a much bigger lens, even 1.2/3).
- The dual LED flashes would likely overexpose the images due to their placement on the back of the phone. Sure, aesthetically it can look good (depending on your preference) but logically it will risk adding too much exposure to photos. The Note 4, 6+, top Nokia phones with large lenses all have the flashes further away from the lens for example (for good reason).
- The type of flash (LED) wont be as good an xenon flash (or dual). According to her the phone body is definitely thick enough to house the bigger flash; this would reduce noise in the images and provide better lighting/exposure in photos.
She also mentioned that even with a 10/10 camera app which does absolutely everything you want, the photo quality will not be much better (maybe the same as or potentially still worse) compared with the Note 4 or even iPhone 6+. Yes the hardware might be similar but the placement of the flash compared with the Note 4 will affect the way the camera captures photos with flash enabled. As, even though TW in Samsung has major issues it does have very heavily optimised camera software which will always improve - better than every camera app that I personally know of.
Front facing camera however will not complete with the Note 4. From demo's , despite being higher MP than the iPhone 6+, the results are worse. I do not know why, it could be down to the quality of the lens in the front but the Nexus 6 FF camera quality isn't much better than the Nexus 5 (it looks the same to me).
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A lens is proportionate to the sensor. On top of that? It's a fixed lens. They can make those extremely small when we're talking about phone sensors. There is also no mechanical shutter, meaning the lens can be even more compact. This is why mirrorless cameras have small lenses. This of course goes for cell phone lenses in general, but the reason is there's really no need to put a huge lens on a phone.
The dual LED flashes won't overexpose the image, don't worry. In the studio we use a ring flash - same concept - there are some versions that operate as a regular flash, and there's some versions that operate constant on. You can shoot with either. Studio LED lighting is even becoming a thing now, it's cool because you can control the color temp directly and change the brightness.. it's also always on so WYSIWYG. Either way your flash will operate TTL and will not overexpose Xenon - what a hotshoe flash uses - will just use a lot of energy and drain your batteries. LED is very efficient.
The ring flash appears to be too small to have the "ring flash effect", which is uniform lighting around a subject that is popular in fashion and hides blemishes.. I mean it's like the size of a finger. The source of the flash is too small to produce any meaningful difference between the "ring" flash and the regular samsung/iphone flashes. It's going to look about the same. If you see a difference, it's software.
I am just excited about the RAW support in 5.0. I am okay with an f/2.0 aperture on a device in my pocket. If I needed something better, my DSLR has a 50mm f/1.5 which is only a camera bag away
The problem I'm having with my Nexus 6 is lag. That is, I went into my 9 month old's room, and turned on the light. So, okay incandescent lighting, not too bright, but I wouldn't call it 'low-light', either. My little son is standing up in his crib bouncing around, and every now and again turning and smiling at me. I go for the shot with my nice Nexus 6....and in the FOUR SECONDS it takes for the camera to actually take the picture, he's looked away again. I tried several times. Each time, the camera did NOTHING for a few seconds and then took the shot when the window of opportunity was gone. WHAT THE HECK?!?!?! It didn't even look like it was doing any autofocus hunting.
THIS is very depressing. Anyone know of any camera apps that will actually, I don't know, take the picture when I actually ask it to?
Randy
I'm waiting for devs to work their magic on the camera. It has a great sensor (Sony IMX214) so the potential is there. I really wish they could use the G3's software because its great. Is there a way to make the G3's software work on the Nexus for the camera? It processes images really well and is very fast.
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The problem I'm having with my Nexus 6 is lag. That is, I went into my 9 month old's room, and turned on the light. So, okay incandescent lighting, not too bright, but I wouldn't call it 'low-light', either. My little son is standing up in his crib bouncing around, and every now and again turning and smiling at me. I go for the shot with my nice Nexus 6....and in the FOUR SECONDS it takes for the camera to actually take the picture, he's looked away again. I tried several times. Each time, the camera did NOTHING for a few seconds and then took the shot when the window of opportunity was gone. WHAT THE HECK?!?!?! It didn't even look like it was doing any autofocus hunting.
THIS is very depressing. Anyone know of any camera apps that will actually, I don't know, take the picture when I actually ask it to?
Randy
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Do you have HDR+ enabled? If so that's why your focus takes so long. It's taking 3 pictures in a row and is great for still images. I find the camera with HDR+ off plenty fast.
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On another note is raw format already being supported on the 6 or is it coming in an update. I'm no photographer but I'm extremely pleased how well the camera functions. I've only had nexus devices. The last phone I had with a decent camera was the Nokia n 5
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Do you have HDR+ enabled? If so that's why your focus takes so long. It's taking 3 pictures in a row and is great for still images. I find the camera with HDR+ off plenty fast.
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On another note is raw format already being supported on the 6 or is it coming in an update. I'm no photographer but I'm extremely pleased how well the camera functions. I've only had nexus devices. The last phone I had with a decent camera was the Nokia n 5
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No, HDR+ was NOT on, nor was the flash. I just wanted it to snap the stupid picture with as little muss n fuss as possible
I extracted the lib files and camera apk/odex from my g3 is there anything else I would need to make it work? I can get the framework from my system files if needed. I want to see if this will help the camera at all considering it had a lot of potential.
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I extracted the lib files and camera apk/odex from my g3 is there anything else I would need to make it work? I can get the framework from my system files if needed. I want to see if this will help the camera at all considering it had a lot of potential.
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Let us know how it goes
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No, HDR+ was NOT on, nor was the flash. I just wanted it to snap the stupid picture with as little muss n fuss as possible
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Then something is broken on your phone. Completely stock N6, not even root let alone disabling encryption, without HDR+ or Flash... the phone takes pictures within half a second every time.
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Let us know how it goes
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It's still FC's even after I moved the camera.apk and camera.odex into the system/app and I wrote over the Nexus's libs with the G3's. I'm not sure why its FC's maybe I can install the framework.apk from my G3 and see if that works.
Try some low light shots....
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I'm a photographer. Here's the thing.
Camera reviews on cell phones are reviewed by gadget freaks, not photographers. They're interested in specs, they think megapixels are important, they don't even mention the important stuff.
Android L is the first OS to have a decent camera api. This will allow the nexus camera - which is only inherently different from the note 4 camera in terms of software - to vastly outperform anything on the market given a good camera app.
This mythical camera app should take advantage of a few things - full manual control. Exposure compensation and AE/AF lock. Auto bracketing. Proper metering, with selections for spot through to matrix. FPS control. Video control with framerate and resolution options, and the ability to manually control or lock exposure and focus. And finally, take advantage of L's .dng output, so we can work on this in lightroom after we're done. I don't trust my $2000 camera to spit out a nice jpg processed the way I want it, I shoot raw, I sure as hell don't trust a phone.
The nexus 6 looks to have some nice hardware. Let the software take advantage of it and you'll be happy.
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Any chance for Slo Mo video (at least 120fps) with this "mythical camera app"?
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Try some low light shots....
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I found this thread after searching for a better camera for my n6. Realized after reading your post that it is the low light shots that suffer from severe shutter lag. Pics in good light are perfect. Ugh. My original moto x Dev. Took awesome pics compared to this low light garbage
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I found this thread after searching for a better camera for my n6. Realized after reading your post that it is the low light shots that suffer from severe shutter lag. Pics in good light are perfect. Ugh. My original moto x Dev. Took awesome pics compared to this low light garbage
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The pics are great when you are in a very well lit place. The moment you start to lose even a little light (semi lit), the camera really struggles. I'm very disappointed to start, but I'm going to stay patient and wait for Google to fix this.
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I'm waiting for devs to work their magic on the camera. It has a great sensor (Sony IMX214) so the potential is there. I really wish they could use the G3's software because its great. Is there a way to make the G3's software work on the Nexus for the camera? It processes images really well and is very fast.
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The G3 is the best camera on a phone because of the hardware.. not sure if the software has much to do with it because I've switched camera apps on that phone many times and the pics still come out amazing
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The G3 is the best camera on a phone because of the hardware.. not sure if the software has much to do with it because I've switched camera apps on that phone many times and the pics still come out amazing
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The G3 uses the IMX135 sensor while the Nexus uses the IMX214 which is a better sensor. So in theory the Nexus 6 is capable of better photos if the software can back it up. The G3 still uses the lib's and framework from LG no matter what camera app you are using from what I understand.
Anyone know anything about the Slo Mo capabilities? Im wanting to buy the N6 but the Slo Mo feature is really important to me. Hopefully it is possible with the sensor which everyone seems to regard as a pretty high quality sensor.
Hi all. I jus bought this phone, it's great and all, but camera didn't deliver as expected. Moved from LG G3 to Z3 compact, and camera is of lower quality it seems. Some people say that superior auto mode takes better pictures, some say that manual mode take better pictures. I'm not specially interested in detail, it is obvious that 20mp shots do have a lot more detail than 8mp superior auto shots. I am specially interested in noise, sharpness and colour balance. Most of my pics are shot in low light without flash (at home, in the office, in pubs and coffe shops, etc). What mode does deliver less noise and more acurate colours? Manual or Superior auto? I have mixed results in my testing. Thanks allot
cornel.atomei said:
Hi all. I jus bought this phone, it's great and all, but camera didn't deliver as expected. Moved from LG G3 to Z3 compact, and camera is of lower quality it seems. Some people say that superior auto mode takes better pictures, some say that manual mode take better pictures. I'm not specially interested in detail, it is obvious that 20mp shots do have a lot more detail than 8mp superior auto shots. I am specially interested in noise, sharpness and colour balance. Most of my pics are shot in low light without flash (at home, in the office, in pubs and coffe shops, etc). What mode does deliver less noise and more acurate colours? Manual or Superior auto? I have mixed results in my testing. Thanks allot
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Maybe you can find some answers in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/stock-camera-google-camera-t2892515
charliebigpot said:
Maybe you can find some answers in this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/stock-camera-google-camera-t2892515
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I have read this post, it's about stock camera app vs google camera. I am interested only in stock camera performance, not google camera. Thanks anyway
Manual is always better if you know what you are doing.
For indoors or night shots, noise is inevitable unless you use a tripod (at ISO 100/200) and/or your subject is not moving (handheld ISO 400/800). YMMV, increase ISO by a step if what you take is blur.
Auto takes night shot at around ISO 1600-6400 when not using flash.
For accurate colors, use manual white balance. If your scene has lots of neutral colors, then auto wb should reproduce accurate colors.
I use Auto Superior most of the time though, because composition and capturing the moments are more important than noise.
Overall I am happy with this camera considering its size, but it could be better as I believe the software is holding it back.
Pretty much everything is better than Superior Auto mode on this camera in my experience, but I also find the 20MP manual mode tends to waaaay oversharpen images. It's especially evident on high-contrast edges and can ruin many landscape shots.
Superior auto always seems to choose entirely the wrong settings. I've found it almost impossible to take artificial-light indoor portraits, for example, because they always come out blurred whatever scene mode and flash mode I use.
I'd like to pile on. As frustrating as the 2013 Moto X camera was, it's auto functionality, even if it was too aggressive, was much more effective than this one seems to be. I've enabled the 20MP Superior Auto hack but have yet to try it out. Not too hopeful. I wonder if the Moto X camera app is extractable?
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I'd like to pile on. As frustrating as the 2013 Moto X camera was, it's auto functionality, even if it was too aggressive, was much more effective than this one seems to be. I've enabled the 20MP Superior Auto hack but have yet to try it out. Not too hopeful. I wonder if the Moto X camera app is extractable?
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The thing is that even if you're able to port the Moto X app, chances are very big that the app won't be able to use all libs, etc. So in other words the ap still won't work to it's full potential.
Sent from my D5803