I know this is speculation and rumors are just that rumors, but I was wondering if anyone else here has the feeling that GPE line of devices are ending with the M8. I am asking because one of the biggest selling points of buying the m8 was the GPE conversion. In 2014 it appears that the only GPE device that I am aware of was the m8. There was no GPE from S5, Sony(Z ultra) moto G, nor Asus(I think it was Asus) tablet. I am stuck on whether I should hold out for the m9(If that's what its going to be called)
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also the moto g is nearly like a GPE phone. and just because the other OEM doesn't have GPE converted phones doesn't mean it will end..
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I know this is speculation and rumors are just that rumors, but I was wondering if anyone else here has the feeling that GPE line of devices are ending with the M8. I am asking because one of the biggest selling points of buying the m8 was the GPE conversion. In 2014 it appears that the only GPE device that I am aware of was the m8. There was no GPE from S5, Sony(Z ultra) moto G, nor Asus(I think it was Asus) tablet. I am stuck on whether I should hold out for the m9(If that's what its going to be called)
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First you should read the Forum Rules on posting. Secondly, it is the end of the line for this thread, that I do know, thanks.
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I have 2 Nexus 5's and I sold one and have $ to buy another phone I'm looking @ the Moto x and it looks cool (bamboo wood edition)
I'm wondering what model number should I purchase for T-Mobile and for their LTE and HSPA+ also does the Moto X support all T-Mobile bands?
Secondly who provides the updates to the Moto X, I see so many versions such as America Movil or whatever.. all confusing me does the updates go through the carrier or straight to device like a Nexus?
Third hows the battery life on this thing, I'm talking about screen on time and real world usage!
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I have 2 Nexus 5's and I sold one and have $ to buy another phone I'm looking @ the Moto x and it looks cool (bamboo wood edition)
I'm wondering what model number should I purchase for T-Mobile and for their LTE and HSPA+ also does the Moto X support all T-Mobile bands?
Secondly who provides the updates to the Moto X, I see so many versions such as America Movil or whatever.. all confusing me does the updates go through the carrier or straight to device like a Nexus?
Third hows the battery life on this thing, I'm talking about screen on time and real world usage!
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i just picked up a 32gb developers edition for $250 2 hours ago. I love it. I still have the white nexus 5. I never felt a connection with the nexus 5, its just like a flat brick, this feels much more like the nexus 4, and s. Solid in your hands and ****. I recommend it, but as for the roming portion, I dont know yet, thats what im worried about because the development looks weak as hell in here.
Any recommended roms?
I don't think there is a lot of development for the Moto X because you pretty much already have a stock Android experience with a couple of added benefits that aren't just gimmicks. No bloatware either. Only reason most people root this phone is to install Unicon and Xposed in order to change icons and make visual tweaks without the need for third party launchers or roms.
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Once Motorola stops giving updates, development will increase.
Necessity is the mother of inventions. There is no need for roms at the moment as it is an awesome phone out of the box.
I had similar exp with my previous phone .
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All of above applies only if you have non-AT&T Moto X. If you buy an AT&T Moto X, you will be laughed at. Don't fall for a phone with locked bootloader, never. HTC's fortune started to fall when they put out phones that were unfriendly to developers and hackers. Samsung has started down the slippery slope as well and they will begin to suffer as a consquence. Moto X was a great phone but their myopic decision to cripple the phone with unlockable bootloader for the largest US carrier (ATT) consigned it to the dust bin, it seems.
I'd suggest buying a GSM Developer Edition so you keep your warranty intact after unlocking. This phone with Xposed Gravity Box installed has ended my 4 Year obsession to flash roms entirely. Gravity Box can do almost anything a Rom can do, I even went back to stock on my Nexus 7 with this module and couldn't be happier. Not thinking about the latest Rom or waiting for a new build to try and then have to wipe and setup my phone/tablet again is a blessing.
This is the first phone I've had that I've ever run stock. I'm thinking of unlocking it, just to install xposed, but that's really it.
Even my three Google Experience devices (Nexus One, Nexus S, and Xoom) were all rooted within a day or two of owning them. This phone is just really nice as-is.
-Jim
ill echo what everybody else said. The Moto X is the first Android phone that i have zero desire to install a different ROM. with just root and Xposed, the phone gives me everything i need without forcing me to give up the great features like Touchless Control, Active Display etc...
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All of above applies only if you have non-AT&T Moto X. If you buy an AT&T Moto X, you will be laughed at. Don't fall for a phone with locked bootloader, never. HTC's fortune started to fall when they put out phones that were unfriendly to developers and hackers. Samsung has started down the slippery slope as well and they will begin to suffer as a consquence. Moto X was a great phone but their myopic decision to cripple the phone with unlockable bootloader for the largest US carrier (ATT) consigned it to the dust bin, it seems.
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Samsung has a wider range of customers now that android has developed. It is the iPhones competition and people who are tired of iPhones and iOS look at that competition with on sheet greater specs, camera and a wide array of commercials going against the iPhone people are leaning towards the gs5 vs any other android device. The gs5 has outsold the iPhone 5s in the first weekend of its release. I'm not a Samsung fanboy nor apple fanboy, I've used both ecosystems before I loved iOS but now that android has developed I wouldn't think about going back to iOS unless there's specs and other enticing options to draw me back. I have a macbook air, but I have the moto x and let me get on topic with this one. The moto x is a really great device but I think the op should wait for the successor of the moto x or wait for the "last" nexus device. There's more great devices coming out later on this year and I think he should hold off.
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I remember when I was thinking about getting a Motorola phone a few years ago I found out that it didn't support anyway to output to HDMI. Does the latest flagship Moto X (2014) still not do video out or have that added that feature to the new model?
Spoke to a customer care representative about this, and he confirmed that the new Moto X doesnt support this either
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Spoke to a customer care representative about this, and he confirmed that the new Moto X doesnt support this either
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Darn. Thanks for the quick answer.
I hope the Nexus 6 will have SlimPort since it's based on the New Moto X and the last two Nexus phones had it. The more I research the New Moto X on Verizon, the more it looks like I'll be going with the Nexus instead. I really wanted to get this phone though.
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Darn. Thanks for the quick answer.
I hope the Nexus 6 will have SlimPort since it's based on the New Moto X and the last two Nexus phones had it. The more I research the New Moto X on Verizon, the more it looks like I'll be going with the Nexus instead. I really wanted to get this phone though.
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Slimport is pretty expensive though, unless you have one already that won't be an issue. The Moto X is still a pretty sweet device not many issues with this device, I wanted to go for the nexus 6 as well coming from nexus 5, but the size and the price are a big turn off. If you've set your mind on going with the N6, do visit a store to actually feel it in hand before buying it. I was looking at some 6inch Sony phones when i was making my decision, to get an idea as to what i was gonna deal with and I just couldn't see myself carrying such a humongous device everyday.
Chromecast is the future of video out on Android phones, especially nexus and near-stock versions.
Hi all!
I have a Nexus 5, and I really like it, but it seems like it is almost time to upgrade.
A few questions for you owners and to-be owners:
Is it worth waiting for phones like the One M9, etc,. in your opinion?
Are the black levels really that noticably different on the Nexus 6 when compared to the Nexus 5?
Is it worth waiting for 64-bit and Snapdragon 810 processors?
Is it worth upgrading from the Nexus 5?
Considering Mobile World Congress is under 2 months away, I'm not sure if I should wait. The only other phone I'd likely buy is a One M9 (as the One M8 was the only non-Nexus phone last year with a sizable custom ROM / development community).
That said, HTC's One M9:
Never uses OLED/AMOLED displays
Probably won't use Quantum Dot (which is inferior to OLED)
Might or might not have a better development community than the Nexus 6
Is likely to have a better build quality than the 5
But probably won't have a large display or wireless charging
Might have a Snapdragon 810 octa-core / 64 bit
So - I'm not sure if it's worth waiting the ~1.5 months (1.5 months that I could be using the Nexus 6) to see what might or might not be better than the Nexus 6 based off of speculation for what the One M9 might be like.
Up to you mostly, but apparently, the One M9 will have a Snapdragon 810 (octa core)
Yeah.
I noticed that, but it likely won't have as nice of a screen as the Nexus 6 , which is already plenty fast :-/
But it will probably have nicer build quality and better speakers.
And who knows what it's development community will be like?
Decisions, decisions.
Wait. Either android or the nexus 6 is buggy. Performance isn't great. By the time the m9 is released either android will be fixed or the nexus 6 well be abandoned.
The m8 was a beautiful device. Sense is also very close to stock android and pretty damn snappy. I was on the same boat when my upgrade came in December. I honestly just didn't want to wait u until March for unveiling then maybe april/may for purchase. Newer, better phones will always be released so you would have been asking yourself the same question when the m9 came out (should I wait another 5-6 months for the new nexus).
The m9 will most likely be gorgeous, if they base it on the m8. I've just gotten used to larger displays. A sub 5.5 inch display just isn't cutting it for me. The biggest pro is the 810 chip and whatever power saving abilities it will have. Performance wise, it might clock higher but even the n5 can handle everything you throw at it (app wise).
Definitely buy a nexus 6...nothing better than to have an untouched Google edition android phone..totally ideal for rooting and modifying highly.. Unlike the htc one..it has sense ui..and lots of security.. It wud give u a hard time... They both also have great specs no lag
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It is a tough decision. If the nexus 6 had micro SD slot I'd drop the note4. But alas, it does not, but the note4 has many advantages over the nexus6. And of disadvantages. I wish Samsung would drop the physical buttons in favor of software navigation already. I hate touchwiz but it is tameable and the note4 is just about perfect minus the home and physical buttons. I longingly look at the nexus 6 and wait for the next manufacturer to mish mash the best of both the note4 an nexus 6. If the m9 or hima has a 5.5" screen like rumors say I would probably go for that. The m8 and sense were much more tolerable than touchwiz. I am gonna keep my m8 and it's status as my everything goto media player unless the hima blows it out of the water.
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Definitely buy a nexus 6...nothing better than to have an untouched Google edition android phone..totally ideal for rooting and modifying highly.. Unlike the htc one..it has sense ui..and lots of security.. It wud give u a hard time... They both also have great specs no lag
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Thanks for the replies so far.
The thing is, the One M8 does have an admirably large development community - the Android Development subforum has ~80,000 replies! Almost matching the growth of the Nexus 5 development community over time. Since I use custom ROMs anyways, having a pure Google experience shouldn't be a problem with such a huge community (that, again, will likely have many custom ROMs based off of pure Android). I believe the developer versions HTC sells come with the bootloader unlocked, so security shouldn't be an issue.
That said, you do make good points!
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It is a tough decision. If the nexus 6 had micro SD slot I'd drop the note4. But alas, it does not, but the note4 has many advantages over the nexus6. And of disadvantages. I wish Samsung would drop the physical buttons in favor of software navigation already. I hate touchwiz but it is tameable and the note4 is just about perfect minus the home and physical buttons. I longingly look at the nexus 6 and wait for the next manufacturer to mish mash the best of both the note4 an nexus 6. If the m9 or hima has a 5.5" screen like rumors say I would probably go for that. The m8 and sense were much more tolerable than touchwiz. I am gonna keep my m8 and it's status as my everything goto media player unless the hima blows it out of the water.
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Thanks for the input.
How are you liking your M8? How is your battery life? How do you think the screen compares to the Note's AMOLED?
One thing to keep in mond about the M9 is that there very possibly won't be a Google Play Edition of it since all signs are pointing to the GPE arrangement being ended.
The M8 has good developer support but as of late we have seen HTC really crack down on development. They have blocked S-Off on most 4.4.4 models and CM has a hard time especially with audio. It looks like the M8 will be the last of the great developement period for HTC unless they pull a fast one for us.
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One thing to keep in mond about the M9 is that there very possibly won't be a Google Play Edition of it since all signs are pointing to the GPE arrangement being ended.
The M8 has good developer support but as of late we have seen HTC really crack down on development. They have blocked S-Off on most 4.4.4 models and CM has a hard time especially with audio. It looks like the M8 will be the last of the great developement period for HTC unless they pull a fast one for us.
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Could you elaborate on this? What is the implication of this on using custom ROMs? Does it mean that if HTC finds a way to permanently block S-Off in future versions we won't be able to use custom non-Sense ROMs?
Agree, best advice if possible.
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Wait. Either android or the nexus 6 is buggy. Performance isn't great. By the time the m9 is released either android will be fixed or the nexus 6 well be abandoned.
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The m8 was a beautiful device. Sense is also very close to stock android and pretty damn snappy. I was on the same boat when my upgrade came in December. I honestly just didn't want to wait u until March for unveiling then maybe april/may for purchase. Newer, better phones will always be released so you would have been asking yourself the same question when the m9 came out (should I wait another 5-6 months for the new nexus).
The m9 will most likely be gorgeous, if they base it on the m8. I've just gotten used to larger displays. A sub 5.5 inch display just isn't cutting it for me. The biggest pro is the 810 chip and whatever power saving abilities it will have. Performance wise, it might clock higher but even the n5 can handle everything you throw at it (app wise).
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Yes, I've always been a phablet user, older eyes need bigger displays, I started on the HTC HD2, then HTC Sensation, followed by AMaze, Followed by Samsung G4 then G5 then note 3, to LGG3 to Nexus 6 and Note 4. AS you can see, I like Phablets which to me seem small in my hands. As the previous poster said, The Nexus 6 with Lollipop is incomplete and has it share of bugs and imperfection, especially in options and settings. So many things you may take for granted on other devices turn out to be features of said device and not standard usability. I am waiting for the big update later this month or next to see what is added or addressed and what is considered a feature. A lot of press as claimed not much in the way of features or settings, or usability is going to be addressed because it is the way google as chosen to go. Unreal that they think the ambient notification helps deaf people more than a blinking LED, but that is their position. I disagree with their thought process and find it hard to believe that somehow the new notification system makes it easier to tell what you have received. To me it makes little sense but I am used to the old fashion LED system and may be biased in my thinking.
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Definitely buy a nexus 6...nothing better than to have an untouched Google edition android phone..totally ideal for rooting and modifying highly.. Unlike the htc one..it has sense ui..and lots of security.. It wud give u a hard time... They both also have great specs no lag
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I have yet to get a phone that was unrootable if you needed to have root for some reason. In fact, now that I have the nexus six, it's the first phone that I have not rooted yet, only because I feel the phone should do most of the things I like without rooting and at that point root it to use titanium back up.
Most ROM's solve the performance issues by disabling decryption, right?
That said if HTC will actually stunt ROMing on the One M9, I might simply just get the Nexus 6. Nothing annoys me more than having to wait months upon months because a company decided that developers shouldn't develop.
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Most ROM's solve the performance issues by disabling decryption, right?
That said if HTC will actually stunt ROMing on the One M9, I might simply just get the Nexus 6. Nothing annoys me more than having to wait months upon months because a company decided that developers shouldn't develop.
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That was the first thing I did was disable the encryption. Ive had absolutely no issues with performance whatsoever. This is the fastest phone I've ever owned. I came for the HTC m8. I don't know what's your carrier is but I'm verizon and I know things are getting tougher and tougher to unlock as far as bootloaders and even root. Just look at the Samsung devices on Verizon they are so locked down and i may be wrong but I'd be surprised if the new HTC m9 achieves s off for Verizon. I'm at the point now where if I can't have an unlocked bootloader and an easily rootable device I'm going to go ahead and switch to an AT&T SIM on straight talk and continue to buy devices at full retail as I have been doing. . The only reason I've stuck with Verizon is because I work in a steel building in the only reason I get signal is because there is a Verizon tower on the company property in the back and I still hardly get any signal inside.
Great topic
This is same question I've been considering for a while too. I actually like HTC's skin (not nearly as much as Stock Android but still) and I'm sure it'll get plenty of development. But Stock Android is too good to resist.. and so are timely updates.
There's also the chance that future non-Nexus Android phones will be more locked down.
All in all, I want to see what the M9 brings to the table.
am a little bit of a htc fan boy as you can see in my signature i have the nexus 6 at the moment and i love it if you look around online the note about the snap 810 being serious throttled and having way bad over heating issues and the rumours that its going to be delayed just wont go away as the snap 810 is in the lg flex 2 and even our nexus 6 beats it in antutu and i was planing on getting the m9 instead but went with the nexus 6 as i dont really want to be the beta testers for qualicom and pay £550 for the privilege lol
If me I will wait for m9 or z4
It truly depends on what you want from a software perspective. No non-nexus devices development community ever compares in size to a Nexus Development community. OEM devices are notoriously difficult to get AOSP working well on, so if you want AOSP, Nexus devices are best for that.
I've really been enjoying my HTC One M7 since converting it to full Google Edition (GE). I really didn't want an M8, since I'm fine with my M7. I was hoping the M9 would have a Google Edition, but it does not seem that will be happening. All Google Edition devices have been discontinued.
So I'm thinking, I may just wait till later this year, for whatever new Nexus phone drops and get it. I'm really preferring vanilla Android, but will miss the IR Blaster and other special features of the HTC One line.
What do you plan to do?
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I've really been enjoying my HTC One M7 since converting it to full Google Edition (GE). I really didn't want an M8, since I'm fine with my M7. I was hoping the M9 would have a Google Edition, but it does not seem that will be happening. All Google Edition devices have been discontinued.
So I'm thinking, I may just wait till later this year, for whatever new Nexus phone drops and get it. I'm really preferring vanilla Android, but will miss the IR Blaster and other special features of the HTC One line.
What do you plan to do?
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I personally prefer Sense over GPE but in you case you could stay with HTC and use AOSP roms?
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I personally prefer Sense over GPE but in you case you could stay with HTC and use AOSP roms?
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Not the same. No OTAs directly from the source. And they are not as good as GE or Nexus IMHO. Because they were not built by the OEM in concert with Google. I used to play with them, but that's why I started going GE and Nexus. It's just not the same.
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Not the same. No OTAs directly from the source. And they are not as good as GE or Nexus IMHO. Because they were not built by the OEM in concert with Google. I used to play with them, but that's why I started going GE and Nexus. It's just not the same.
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Well in that case, Nexus is probably the way to go but like you said, no IR
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Not the same. No OTAs directly from the source. And they are not as good as GE or Nexus IMHO. Because they were not built by the OEM in concert with Google. I used to play with them, but that's why I started going GE and Nexus. It's just not the same.
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How about a OnePlus One or any Moto X should do it, their the most boring phones i have seen along with the GPe.
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How about a OnePlus One or any Moto X should do it, their the most boring phones i have seen along with the GPe.
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I am leery if of the OnePlus One support given some articles, but the Moto is a good recommendation to keep in mind. I will seriously consider it in my decision.
I am in a holding pattern for a new phone as I want to wait for the 820 SoC phones later next year. In the mean time I figure I would get a used phone that can keep me busy. I'm basically looking for something that is stable and with good custom ROM support (as I like to play around). I've narrowed it down to the Moto X 2014 and the LG G3 (verizon versions). I just got Moto G's for my youngsters and I remembered how much I liked the Moto phones. The LG G3 seems to have more official ROM support but I am put off by it's size (5.5) whereas the 5.0-5.2" screens are my sweet spot. I also generally tend to prefer AMOLED screens to IPS.
So my questions is basically how do XT1096 owners feel about their phones and the ROM support? I would particularly like to hear from anyone that has also owned the LG G3.
Thank you
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I am in a holding pattern for a new phone as I want to wait for the 820 SoC phones later next year. In the mean time I figure I would get a used phone that can keep me busy. I'm basically looking for something that is stable and with good custom ROM support (as I like to play around). I've narrowed it down to the Moto X 2014 and the LG G3 (verizon versions). I just got Moto G's for my youngsters and I remembered how much I liked the Moto phones. The LG G3 seems to have more official ROM support but I am put off by it's size (5.5) whereas the 5.0-5.2" screens are my sweet spot. I also generally tend to prefer AMOLED screens to IPS.
So my questions is basically how do XT1096 owners feel about their phones and the ROM support? I would particularly like to hear from anyone that has also owned the LG G3.
Thank you
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I purchased an used Moto X 2014 XT1096 to replace my original Moto X 2013 Developers Edition. I can't speak for the custom ROM availability for the LG G3 but you can check the two developement sections in the Moto X 2014 forum to see what there are. I know there are a few for the XT1096 but not as many as for the other variants (XT1095/1092/etc.). I am going to try CM13 soon on mine. If you really want to play with ROMs then I would go for one of the more popular phones with better custom ROM support.
I did not answer your questions regarding custom ROMs as I tend to stick with the stock ROM and use other enhancements like Xposed modules or a custom launcher. I also like to use the Moto features which may not be available in other custom ROMs. I do plan to at least try CM13 though.
To be able to install ROMs make sure that you purchase a Moto X 2014 that is already bootloader unlocked. If you can't find one then make sure you purchase one that is on 5.0 or earlier version of the OS. Version 5.1 and later cannot be bootloader unlocked. I purchased mine on SWAPPA.
I bought a used 1096 from eBay 3 weeks ago. Been a Samsung owner all of my Android life, I got tired of Samsung's slow updates. I like this phone, have CM13 on it and runs great. Rooting is a little tricky, used mofo to root and sunshine to bootloader unlock