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[Q] Which 'version' of the Droid 3 will work the best in Europe / The Netherlands?

At the moment there are known several 'versions' of the Motorola Droid 3...
My question is: Which version is the best for using in Europe / The Netherlands?
I'm using the Vodafone network here in The Netherlands and I want to buy the best version of this device,
which is fully working and compatible with the HSDPA-network out here, which is 14.4Mbps (at the moment)
So which version is best:
1. Motorola XT883, for sale in China
At the moment there is no information about supported networks, standbytime, prices or (sim)locks...
2. Motorola Droid 3, for sale in the USA with supported networks:
WCDMA 850/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1800/1900
HSDPA 10.2 Mbps (Category 9/10), CDMA EV-DO Release A, EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12, HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Standbytime is 300 hours and you can call 550 minutes with it.
Disadvantages of this version:
- It is known that it has got a Verizon-provider(sim)lock
- It supports HSDPA speeds up to 10.2Mbps
- It has got several Verizon bloatware on board
- It has got several Verizon logo's on the outside of the device
Advantage of this version:
- The price, which is only $429,00 if I'm correct
(an unlockcode will cost you about $30 via eBay)
- The (XDA)community, which is probably the best for this version
3. Motorola XT860 4G, for sale in Canada with supported networks:
WCDMA 850/1900/2100, GSM 850/900/1800/1900
HSDPA 14.4 Mbps (Category 9/10), EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12, HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
Standbytime is 240 hours and you can call 580 minutes with it.
What is not known about this version at the moment:
- Will this version have a providerlock / simlock?
- Will this version have providerbloatware just like the Droid 3?
- Price for only the phone, without a contract, is unknown?
Advantages of this version:
- It supports HSDPA speeds up to 14.4Mbps
- It hasn't got several logo's of the provider on the outside of the device!
My own conclusion
At the moment I thinks the Motorola XT860 4G is the best option...
And I'm still waiting for the Motorola XT883 specifications offcourse.. What do you think? Thanks in advance!
Several topics on XDA / Droidforums about using the Droid 3 outside the USA:
-Droid 3 in GSM?
-Droid 3 sim unlock discussion
-Droid 3 unlockable
-Droid 3 Verizon vs. Unlocked vs. China version..?

Wonderful topic/questions, and the answers interest me also, for the same Vodafone network, also in Europe.
I am trying to purchase the Droid 3 from USA, at this time.
Also, from where can we buy D3/Milestone 3 in Europe?

The most important network is WCDMA. It will show for you with H or 3.5G mark.
(HSDPA is showing as 3G Mark.
EGPRS is showing as E or 2G
and GPRS is showing as G or 2G.)
If phone is equipped with it, it should work everywhere in Europe. I am planning also this phone. And Verizon brand marks looks good..
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and where from can we buy it? on verizon they said it can be bought only with a 2years contract...

You can buy it without a contract as well from verizon for $459. I just bought it this weekend.

Unfortunatelly, they did not allow a friend of mine to do so..
So any other online store which sends it to europe?

Even if you can buy it, how do you intend to handle SIM unlocking? AFAICS, third party codes are not yet confirmed to work.
The only chance I see right now is to buy on ebay and to convince the seller to obtain the codes from Verizon for you.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1172521
http://cgi.ebay.com/Unlock-Code-Ver...500?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c5df4bddc
or possibly TURBO SIM?
or perhaps buy it directly from Moto-store, if i were to be in the USA
http://www.store.motorola.com/Motor...dtextbin,subjectbin,color_map,price,size_name

I didn't realize there is already a confirmed third party unlock. Thank you!

its also in the first post of this topic
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/droid-3/158398-droid-3-sim-unlock-discussion.html

So, any of the Canadian or USA version will work fine in Europe? (being unlocked, of course) ?

Just ordered the phone from Motorola store you mentioned above. Have it shipped to Germany with borderlinx. Should work...
Why do you doubt it could work? UMTS band 2100 is good enough for Europe, at least Germany, but I think for most other countries as well. Just the same as with D2G.

I should not choose for the Droid 3 if I were me =p
The disadvantages have I mentioned in the first post.
Bloatware, logo's on the phone, not the best HSDPA speeds..
Okay it will work in Europe, but it's not the 'best version' I think..

HSDPA speeds, OK, technically you are right, this is a real disadvantage -- however I doubt I'd really feel the difference, for many reasons ...
Regarding the bloatware, I will get rid of it with another launcher, like Launcher Pro. Just as with D2G.
And the logo is unobtrusive, at least for me.
Of course it is not the 'best version' -- but available NOW.

@CLB-NL, and what do you chose for Europe? Wait for milestone 3 launched for Eu especially?
and what if i buy the D3 without contract? than it should be sim-unlocked?
Any information regarding the Canada version? like..price..sim- blocked??

Something buying a Milestone 2 taught me, is that the US variant (Droid) will get about eleven thousand times more dev support here.

@ rweb: with installing another launcher you still have got the bloatware!
We have to wait for rootacces and then we can delete that crap!
@ bogdan_wrc: personally I think the XT860 4G is the best version to use at the moment of writing this. Offcourse we have to wait for some answers. Simlock, bloatware, price and so on, but it's just my opinion... And we have to wait for the official Milestone XT883 specs also!
@ Sjael: the support is an advantage of the Droid 3, that's true!

CLB-NL said:
@ rweb: with installing another launcher you still have got the bloatware!
We have to wait for rootacces and then we can delete that crap!
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But I do not see it anymore, so I don't mind. It may waste some resources, but I don't think this is very much. At least it works out this way on my D2G, and I asume it we be the same with D3.

It will probably work the same =)
And with the standard launcher you also can 'hide' it.
Just create a Verizon folder with all the bloatware apps and don't show / use it.

rweb said:
Just ordered the phone from Motorola store you mentioned above. Have it shipped to Germany with borderlinx. Should work...
Why do you doubt it could work? UMTS band 2100 is good enough for Europe, at least Germany, but I think for most other countries as well. Just the same as with D2G.
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when i try to buy one, it will only let me use a US address for billing. do borderlinx offer assisted purchasing as well, or am i the only one experiencing this?
trying to order a droid 3 off the US site btw, not a canadian version

International User - Wanna Buy Droid 3

I'm from Bahrain (somewhere in middle east).
I'm a qwerty fan and the droid 3 is the only phone that will suite me.
MyTouch 4G Slide was an option but I don't think I'll get 3G to work here since it doesn't like non-1700 bands.
Is it safe to buy an unlocked version of the droid from ebay? I found some on ebay with bad and good ESNs. but I don't wanna throw $400+ on a dummy unit that I cant use.
The unlocked OEM version is still on pre-order over http://negrielectronics.com and I don't know if the Canadian version is safe to buy.
Will there ever be a Motorola Milestone 3 version anytime soon?

Find a new one on Ebay US, make sure you get the seller to get you an international unlock code and there you have it

Could just buy it from Mobicity like I did?

The normal droid 3 IS available at negri electronics. Some users have reported it working fine in the UK, germany.
We are currently trying to find out whether the XT860 canadian would be the better choise, as it might have better GSM features/performance,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1237302

I bought new xt862 and unlock code from the eBay seller.
But the unlock code was not working..
So I purchased same xt862 and this is working well.
Is it better to buy unlocked phone than buy them separately.

aGoGo said:
I'm from Bahrain (somewhere in middle east).
I'm a qwerty fan and the droid 3 is the only phone that will suite me.
MyTouch 4G Slide was an option but I don't think I'll get 3G to work here since it doesn't like non-1700 bands.
Is it safe to buy an unlocked version of the droid from ebay? I found some on ebay with bad and good ESNs. but I don't wanna throw $400+ on a dummy unit that I cant use.
The unlocked OEM version is still on pre-order over http://negrielectronics.com and I don't know if the Canadian version is safe to buy.
Will there ever be a Motorola Milestone 3 version anytime soon?
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There is a Milestone 3, it's already available here in Brazil.

Its quite risky buying a droid 3 from ebay.
The issue is that many sellers are claiming the units they are selling are unlocked while they are only providing an unlock code that may not work, then comes the issue of activation.
I contacted Negri support and they said that they don't have a date for unlocked xt860 availability.

msaraiva said:
There is a Milestone 3, it's already available here in Brazil.
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Are there international Brazilian shops available who are selling the Milestone 3?
(Or only via VIVO?)

[Q] Buying this phone in Europe

Hi guys,
I really want to buy the Moto X, but here in Germany the price for a bamboo one with 32GB ist a whopping 600€. And buying the Moto X for 600€, whereas my Nexus 5 costs 250€ less? Yeah no. In addition, the Nexus 6 will probably be cheaper as well, so I just cant justify spending that much money on the Moto X. Does anyone know, where I could get it cheaper (import etc.)? I mean, if I converted the USD price in euros it would cost 450€. Would really appreciate any suggestions

Radixtrator said:
Hi guys,
I really want to buy the Moto X, but here in Germany the price for a bamboo one with 32GB ist a whopping 600€. And buying the Moto X for 600€, whereas my Nexus 5 costs 250€ less? Yeah no. In addition, the Nexus 6 will probably be cheaper as well, so I just cant justify spending that much money on the Moto X. Does anyone know, where I could get it cheaper (import etc.)? I mean, if I converted the USD price in euros it would cost 450€. Would really appreciate any suggestions
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Someone mentioned that they were able to buy the Moto X with a key for motomaker at the Phone House (DE site) with free upgrade to either wood or leather.

floepie said:
Someone mentioned that they were able to buy the Moto X with a key for motomaker at the Phone House (DE site) with free upgrade to either wood or leather.
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Its still 580€...

That's full price of the phone...my att model 16gb was $529 I believe. My wife's new iPhone was freaking $850...Nuts

Does anybody know already - is the unbranded european version of moto x (uk, de, fr..) identical to the pure version? I mean does it have the unlockable bootloader?

piskr said:
Does anybody know already - is the unbranded european version of moto x (uk, de, fr..) identical to the pure version? I mean does it have the unlockable bootloader?
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Yup it is. Only US has different versions due to the carrier stuff. Here its all the pure version

Radixtrator said:
Yup it is. Only US has different versions due to the carrier stuff. Here its all the pure version
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Thanks. Do you know what XT model is European Moto X or which LTE bands are supported? Are there different builds for EU countries like were for previous Moto x? You can't find any useful information on the sellers sites and asking them for help is fruitless. They don't know what they sell.

piskr said:
Thanks. Do you know what XT model is European Moto X or which LTE bands are supported? Are there different builds for EU countries like were for previous Moto x? You can't find any useful information on the sellers sites and asking them for help is fruitless. They don't know what they sell.
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At this moment the pure edition doesn't support European LTE bands. It only supports bands 2, 4 and 17. Motorola said they will unlock bands 3, 5 and 7 soon via a software update. 3 and 7 are the important ones to Germany.

Radixtrator said:
Yup it is. Only US has different versions due to the carrier stuff. Here its all the pure version
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But we still don't if it's pure in the sense that the boot loader is unlockable. Can anyone confirm?

Motorola makes amazing phones but on the other hand it' s full of dirty tricks that annoy its customers. Remember that previous version was different for unlocked USA model, European and even Asian model. Does anybody has already new Eropean Moto X and can confirm that it is XT1095 and not 1094 or 1093 model?

piskr said:
Motorola makes amazing phones but on the other hand it' s full of dirty tricks that annoy its customers. Remember that previous version was different for unlocked USA model, European and even Asian model. Does anybody has already new Eropean Moto X and can confirm that it is XT1095 and not 1094 or 1093 model?
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Huh? 95 pure is USA only. Of what dirty tricks do you speak?

Well, it's a long history of them. Browse Motorola forums. Motorola is far to servile to the operators to the detriement of its own customers. Never truely analyzed whether such a policy pays off. I personally believe that their phones could sell better. It's not normal to not reveil significant parts of specifications for different models, weird mess with lte bands, blocked tethering, voip..
And those are only last issues.

[Q] Droid Turbo works outside of the US?

Hi, if i buy a Droid Turbo from Verizon at full cost, will I be able to use it in Central America with a 850 HSDPA band and get good speeds on 3G (1 to 2 mbps)? Or does it just use Edge outside of Verizon?

fba9398 said:
Hi, if i buy a Droid Turbo from Verizon at full cost, will I be able to use it in Central America with a 850 HSDPA band and get good speeds on 3G (1 to 2 mbps)? Or does it just use Edge outside of Verizon?
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The turbo covers hsdpa 850 so it should work fine on 3g. You'd just need to add the correct apn
fba9398 said:
Hi, if i buy a Droid Turbo from Verizon at full cost, will I be able to use it in Central America with a 850 HSDPA band and get good speeds on 3G (1 to 2 mbps)? Or does it just use Edge outside of Verizon?
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fba9398 said:
Hi, if i buy a Droid Turbo from Verizon at full cost, will I be able to use it in Central America with a 850 HSDPA band and get good speeds on 3G (1 to 2 mbps)? Or does it just use Edge outside of Verizon?
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Why not buy the mexican version who is already unlocked and with the correct bands?.

Galaxo60 said:
Why not buy the mexican version who is already unlocked and with the correct bands?.
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Because I don't know when the Mexican version (Moto Maxx) is coming out and probably the price is going to be around $800, that's the price in Brazil while the Verizon version is going to be rough $650

fba9398 said:
Because I don't know when the Mexican version (Moto Maxx) is coming out and probably the price is going to be around $800, that's the price in Brazil while the Verizon version is going to be rough $650
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Brazil and Mexico are really different countries, so also the prices are. The Moto Maxx start to sell on Nov 13, and it will cost the same as the Verizon version. The only version that Motorola would be selling here is the Ballistic Nylon version with 64GB. All the information was from the yesterday's announcement, so I guess it's a better option.
:good:

Galaxo60 said:
Brazil and Mexico are really different countries, so also the prices are. The Moto Maxx start to sell on Nov 13, and it will cost the same as the Verizon version. The only version that Motorola would be selling here is the Ballistic Nylon version with 64GB. All the information was from the yesterday's announcement, so I guess it's a better option.
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Where did you get that info? Can I get a link?

Works great sure . Using it in Italy. LTE perfrct working too.
Best in the world !! Turbo
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fba9398 said:
Where did you get that info? Can I get a link?
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As I wrote before, the information was from the announcement here in Mexico; here you go:
http://blogmotorolalatam.blogspot.mx/2014/11/moto-maxx-elige-vivir-la-vida-sin.html

Youre right and it looks like a great device but how can I get it shipped to the US or in my country, Costa Rica?

Galaxo60 said:
As I wrote before, the information was from the announcement here in Mexico; here you go:
http://blogmotorolalatam.blogspot.mx/2014/11/moto-maxx-elige-vivir-la-vida-sin.html
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You're right and it looks like a great device but how can I get it shipped to the US or in my country, Costa Rica?

fba9398 said:
Youre right and it looks like a great device but how can I get it shipped to the US or in my country, Costa Rica?
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fba9398 said:
You're right and it looks like a great device but how can I get it shipped to the US or in my country, Costa Rica?
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I know for sure that people would be selling them in eBay or a page called "Mercado Libre", that is kind of the mexican eBay. In Mercado Libre they already sell all the newest phones at very reasonable prices; you can always ask to some vendor if he is willing to make international shipping, because some vendors do it and some don't.
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Galaxo60 said:
I know for sure that people would be selling them in eBay or a page called "Mercado Libre", that is kind of the mexican eBay. In Mercado Libre they already sell all the newest phones at very reasonable prices; you can always ask to some vendor if he is willing to make international shipping, because some vendors do it and some don't.
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Actually in Costa Rica we also have Mercadolibre, but here the phones are about $300 to $400 more, with eBay the problem is that the prices of new phones are almost $200 more because its hard to get, I'll definitely look in the mexican mercadolibre but I need around the same cost as the phone, you think that Motorola Mexico would do international shipping?

fba9398 said:
Actually in Costa Rica we also have Mercadolibre, but here the phones are about $300 to $400 more, with eBay the problem is that the prices of new phones are almost $200 more because its hard to get, I'll definitely look in the mexican mercadolibre but I need around the same cost as the phone, you think that Motorola Mexico would do international shipping?
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The page in Motorola Mexico doesn't allow to do international shipping, because the address it get is from the CP you enter in the form, I tried with couple of CP from USA and the form was showing cities from Mexico, so I guess the buy is not possible directly from Motorola page.

Galaxo60 said:
The page in Motorola Mexico doesn't allow to do international shipping, because the address it get is from the CP you enter in the form, I tried with couple of CP from USA and the form was showing cities from Mexico, so I guess the buy is not possible directly from Motorola page.
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Is there any information on which are the Latin American countries that will get the phone? Maybe Central America?

fba9398 said:
Is there any information on which are the Latin American countries that will get the phone? Maybe Central America?
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As far as I know, it will be Mexico and Brazil for now, and some other countries maybe next year.

wolfgart said:
Works great sure . Using it in Italy. LTE perfrct working too.
Best in the world !! Turbo
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hello friend, friend where I buy the DROID TURBO ???
thank you

Motorola Moto X 2014 (XT1096) in Central Europe - will be ok?

I want to buy a Moto X 2014 (32GB). But I live in Poland and this phone isn't available in my country. I'm thinking about buying XT1096 Verizon, but I have a few questions:
1. I read that this version haven't block card SIM. It's a true? Can I use my own card SIM (from Poland)?
2. I want to buy phone from this seller . If I choose teak wood or black wood, I will have this ulgy inscription "Verizon" or not? Yes, I know, this is a question for seller, but eBay is a black magic for me and I don't know how do this...
3. Third matter - bootloader. I read in this page - - I will be able to unlock bootloader. Also I read about problems with VoLTE. Phone from link is a VoLTE, or normal version? There will be problems?
4. ROM. I want to have Android 6. But I'm looking AOSP or another pure ROM, because I want to install Xposed. What will be the best?
And what I should know about this version in my situation?

I use it in Europe either and everything works fine.
You can unlock the bootloader and then flash the stock 6.0 of xt1095 (the pure edition), it is very good rom and I used it for half a year.
Just recently I flashed nexus experience which feels much better for me.
You can have xposed on both.
About the ugly 'verizon' inscription , yes you will have it no matter what. This is xt1096, Verizon's version.

Remember that custom ROMs don't support Moto apps such as Display and Voice, which are among this phone's main selling points and do not have any real alternatives

@OrenGazala and @Flipz77, Yours answers are very helpful. Big thanks! I forgot paste link to eBay seller: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Verizon-Unl...hash=item3602a50d3a:m:m5feJrL_YfuqhdKODPEUR0g.
On the picture phone don't have this ugly inscription so I ask. And is this phone 'normal' or VoLTE?

Have you looked at the XT1095 Pure Edition? They are factory unlocked and do not have any carrier branding such as Verizon. I bought mine used on Swappa for a lot less than that link on eBay.
I'm looking at buying another one for a friend of mine who lives in the UK and I'm trying to make sure that the LTE bands will be compatible with his network. It seems that Europe mostly uses 800, 1800 and 2600. The XT1096 has 1800 and 2600 while the XT1095 has only 1800, however my friends network (Three) uses only 1800 and 800 so the lack of 2600 isn't an issue for him, however the lack of 800 could be. But I'm not sure and I don't know how to find out.
Might want to look into what bands your local operator uses in Poland.