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Xposed not working Verizon Nexus 5.1?!

Has anyone been able to get Xposed working on their Verizon Nexus 6 running Android 5.1? I've been trying all day and have searched and searched and followed all the workaround threads and nothing has worked. I cannot get Xposed working. I've tried the SELinux mode changer app, tried the initd script, tried flashing the zip that sets linux to permissive. Nothing is working.
So has anyone been able to get it to work on their Verizon NExus 6? If you did please share what method worked for you..

nicholi2789 said:
Has anyone been able to get Xposed working on their Verizon Nexus 6 running Android 5.1? I've been trying all day and have searched and searched and followed all the workaround threads and nothing has worked. I cannot get Xposed working. I've tried the SELinux mode changer app, tried the initd script, tried flashing the zip that sets linux to permissive. Nothing is working.
So has anyone been able to get it to work on their Verizon NExus 6? If you did please share what method worked for you..
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I don't think it works on any nexus running 5.1.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...PFWlrzDGog1zF1w5w&sig2=ivFa7bsj9rSL1zrdof-SJQ
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Intub8 said:
I don't think it works on any nexus running 5.1.
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...PFWlrzDGog1zF1w5w&sig2=ivFa7bsj9rSL1zrdof-SJQ
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Well crap. I didn't see that article in my searches. I guess i'll just have to wait patiently for it. Lol. In the meantime I guess i'll just find a nice feature filled rom to flash. Whah. That's lame. Thanks for the post tho, at least I'm not fruitlessly trying to get it to work anymore. I'm sure somebody will figure out how to get it working soon enough.

nicholi2789 said:
Well crap. I didn't see that article in my searches. I guess i'll just have to wait patiently for it. Lol. In the meantime I guess i'll just find a nice feature filled rom to flash. Whah. That's lame. Thanks for the post tho, at least I'm not fruitlessly trying to get it to work anymore. I'm sure somebody will figure out how to get it working soon enough.
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Yea that's the price we pay sometimes for the latest and greatest.
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Intub8 said:
Yea that's the price we pay sometimes for the latest and greatest.
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Yeah its cool. I still friggen love this device even without the sdcard slot or xposed.

just out of curiosity what does xposed do that is so great that everybody misses. And I see people are very concerned about getting it back. I glanced at it quickly and it looks like an ad blocker and a couple other features that you can get with other applications. what am I missing?
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DebianDog said:
just out of curiosity what does xposed do that is so great that everybody misses. And I see people are very concerned about getting it back. I glanced at it quickly and it looks like an ad blocker and a couple other features that you can get with other applications. what am I missing?
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Xposed got big because it brought customization to many phones that had root but locked bootloaders. It's a little less useful when you're on a custom ROM but there's a lot of app hacks. I like it to do simple things like save all my Snapchats without notifying people or unlimited skips in Pandora.
Not to mention some of the top devs prefer to work on Xposed rather than ROMs since it isn't device specific. So a stock 5.0.2 ROM with the Gravity Box module has more customization features than most of our current ROMs do. Here's the full module repository:
http://repo.xposed.info/module-overview

DebianDog said:
just out of curiosity what does xposed do that is so great that everybody misses. And I see people are very concerned about getting it back. I glanced at it quickly and it looks like an ad blocker and a couple other features that you can get with other applications. what am I missing?
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Xposed does a heck of a lot more than just block ads. The uses for it are almost endless. It allows almost limitless customization. Everything from UI modifications to, unlimited Pandora skips. It literally gives you all the options of a really really feature filled custom rom while still running the stock rom. Take some time and look through all the xposed modules for it and all the things they can do. That should give you an idea of how much you can do with it.

nicholi2789 said:
Xposed does a heck of a lot more than just... Take some time and look through all the xposed modules for it and all the things they can do. That should give you an idea of how much you can do with it.
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I don't know from what I've read it looks like crack. When you guys don't have it you get all cranky and anxious perhaps I'm better not knowing [emoji85]
Thanks I'll have a second look.
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DebianDog said:
I don't know from what I've read it looks like crack. When you guys don't have it you get all cranky and anxious perhaps I'm better not knowing [emoji85]
Thanks I'll have a second look.
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For me its the little things. Like crappalinks. Don't ya hate how tapatalk does a link hijack? Fixed. Want to use Google voice to text with Swype. Fixed. Hate the stupid "hey dummy, you are using a vpn, that you know, you like installed and set up and launched?" Fixed. Removes a lot of little annoyances that the custom ROM devs are too busy making the **** work to begin with to address.
Also, Gravity Box, lol. The last six months or so of my use of my old S4 was on a Google Edition ROM port. It was by far the best performing ROM, but it also lacked features, kind of like the stock based ROMs here. Gravity Box brought almost all of the features of custom ROMs to the GE ROM.

DebianDog said:
just out of curiosity what does xposed do that is so great that everybody misses. And I see people are very concerned about getting it back. I glanced at it quickly and it looks like an ad blocker and a couple other features that you can get with other applications. what am I missing?
Sent from my Nexus 6
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Xposed is a framework that allows you to "inject" new functions, settings, code into any ROM or app. For example, you may want a custom rom so you can customise your notification quick settings. With xposed, you can install a custom module that will allow that without changing the rom. If no rom has all the features you want, find the feature you want as an xposed module and add it.. Thats what the fuss is about. Its very flexible.,
Here is one of my favourite modules on this device...

What's everyone using to block ads until xposed is available again. Tired of ads popping up in apps and YouTube.

neyenlives said:
What's everyone using to block ads until xposed is available again. Tired of ads popping up in apps and YouTube.
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Have you tried ad away or ad free?

rootSU said:
Have you tried ad away or ad free?
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Actually I found out about adfree and tried it. Still get ads in apps. Of course YouTube still has ads too which I don't expect will be fixed until we get xposed back.

Xposed is awesome and I cannot wait to get it on 5.1. So someone asked what does it do/why use it? There are many reasons.
You want to keep the original OS after root but still want all of the features of cyanogenmod or whatever. Xposed has a lot of them and more. For instance you could set your verizon phone to tether with a click of a button, add a date in the top toolbar, change colors of things, add battery %, get rid of ads, etc. Just tons of awesome things. With my gNex I always just flashed new roms when I wanted new stuff. But with my moto X I wanted to keep the OS and still get those advantages so I used xposed and really liked it. Now with the n6 I again really like the OS so I do not want to flash a new rom so xposed it is (once its working).
I think xposed is the way of the future. No more flashing roms and stuff when you can keep your OS and just add features you want.

I really just use it to get most of the customization I used to get from custom roms without the hassle of having to flash custom roms all the time.

It will come to 5.1 just need a little patience, it didn't take that long to get it on 5.0 and that was a much bigger update.

Threads like this remind of people waiting for cydia on iOS every time there is a new update.
I miss the days when am os update didn't interfere with xposed

md1008 said:
I miss the days when am os update didn't interfere with xposed
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Miss the days? LOL I love the fact your reminiscing about software that has been out less than 2 years on hardware that has been out 6 months. Killing me[emoji23]
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md1008 said:
Threads like this remind of people waiting for cydia on iOS every time there is a new update.
I miss the days when am os update didn't interfere with xposed
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Yes the Android modding scene has changed drastically in the last few years. I remember when I first got into modding Android on my Verizon S3. That was also when xposed first came out. 3 flagship phone generations ago. I remember waiting for the Verizon Jelly bean update. 4.1.2 Hahaha. Gold old days. (only 3 years ago. Lol). We had actual leaked insecure bootloader on the s3. The last Samsung device on Verizon to gave a legit unlocked bootloader. Not the work around line Loki or stupid safestrap on the s5. That's why I quit the Samsung line last year and got an M8. Now I have a Nexus. Quitting Samsung was a good choice though by the looks of it, the S6 in all its variants sucks. If I wanted an iPhone I would get an iPhone.
DebianDog said:
Miss the days? LOL I love the fact your reminiscing about software that has been out less than 2 years on hardware that has been out 6 months. Killing me[emoji23]
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He was reminiscing about Cydia which has been out A LOT longer than two years.

Please help - really wanna change my phone's OS ;(

I bought an HTC Desire 510 few months ago cause my Xperia ARC died (was the best phone I ever had).
Now I am very disappointed with the HTC 510, mainly cause of it's awful operating system bundled by google ALL OVER the place
The user interface is a one big disaster, so much annoying and unnecessary stuff... besides the annoying bloatware (parental control app? srsly?)
I really wanna root this phone and change it's OS to those similar of gingerbreed, cyanogen etc but I don't know how to do this with my current phone
and don't even know what custom operating systems are available for the model I have.
What annoys me about the user interface:
*Often lowers the earphone music volume without my permission then gives me this annoying warning that making it higher will damage my hearing - srsly?
*Screen tends to lower it's lighting and back again by itself while I use the phone
*A button at the bottom of the menu that looks like a "home logo" will open somekind of useless google page each time I drag that button up by mistake.
*Terrible and irremovable Gallery app, not to mention it displays images in uncomfortable way, it also features a slideshow which often plays automatically without me asking it to each time I enter a photo album.
*Poorly made irremovable alarm clock app
*Other forced google apps installed on my phone which i don't use and can't just get rid of
*Bad just bad option of organizing apps, well for me atleast, back on my Xperia ARC I used to organize my apps by "commonly used apps" feature, went great, here it's just wacky, it doesn't do it automatically after you set it to organize the following way. So I find myself surfing through all the useless apps to find the app I need at the app menu.
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?

Sofia_ZARAZA said:
horrific google product
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Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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VigiDroid said:
Perhaps you should buy an iPhone.
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Beggars can't be choosers. Of course this person is trying to be both.

Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I bought an HTC Desire 510
Can anyone give me guidance or recommendation for an alternative Operating System I could replace this horrific google product infecting my phone since I bought it?
I presume this phone would become amazing with a new custom OS, did anyone changed the OS on their HTC 510? if yes what you use and how is it?
Also I know to root this device you first need to unlock the bootloader, is there anything else important I need to know when rooting it?
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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!

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Dude really. Maybe you should have checked out the forums of this model B4 you bought it. That being said, since you say you are unlocked and rooted then doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you. Depending on what you have and with whom there are some pretty good options out there to use. Check it out and start doing it.
Or you could just throw your phone in the lake, buy and Iphone and forget about it. Bam!
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I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
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doing a quick search should get you everything you need to rid yourself of all that is bothering you.
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Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea

Sofia_ZARAZA said:
I actually planned to buy Galaxy 3, heard it was good but also had slow loading problems, then I was offered an alternative of this HTC for the same price and faster working system. It was a spontaneous buy.
And I thought buying an Iphone but changed my mind cause of the "itunes" thing.
Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now?
I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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All I can say (and I never said it was easy) is for you to subscribe to all of the HTC 510 Forums and start reading thru the threads. In your case, the most helpful one being this one..."Help & Troubleshooting" if you can not find answers to your particular questions then I would assume that means we just aren't there yet. This is a pretty new device after all. I wouldnt know about themes being I am on custom ROM and that is not an option. You should maybe go for the Unlock and root your phone method. Try out some of the ROMs available. I believe that will alleviate many of your issues since the stock ROM that came with these units have multiple issues. Many of them are the same ones you are experiencing. I wish you well and Read, Read, Read.
Good Luck

Sofia_ZARAZA said:
Ok, how do I deal with the "menu" thing where I want to authomatically always to arrange my icons by last used but cant right now? I tried themes, but those are so intrusive and full of advertising, well those I tried so far.. (if there are any good ones to recommend I'd give a try) and how about disabling the annoying requests of updates I don't even need? <--(forgot to mention this issue) And how about issues 1-3 I mentioned? any idea how i deal with those then? You talk as if it's so easy, show me then.
About the lake.. better to throw to those who came up with this terrible phone idea
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You should definitely read through the forums if you haven't so far. I have read/skimmed every thread here about our phone and I almost have no questions or concerns except for some ideas for a couple of issues that haven't been brought up yet or just not yet done.
I only use Sense Home or Dodol Launcher and they both don't have the option to sort by last used, check out Nova, Apex, or some other launcher.
As far as the update is concerned, you can follow this post by LarryBoyG, if you plan to stay on stock. I'm sure a custom ROM will be built that includes the update, unless everyone just wants to wait for Lollipop.

Received Lollipop today

Updated the Tmobile 5.0 today, deffeantly tell of the changes. My first problem though was the app updates. They would not up date while the new Google Play Services was updated. I Restarted my phone then unistalled the Google Play Services update to finally get rid of the clash. Just an FYI for yall out there

AUTOROOT
I just rooted my N4 just fine using auto root, also have no problems so far with Philz recovery. Dont know if yall already knew these would be smooth transitions but I didnt lol. Well just some fyis. Have fun with yalls goodnes

Is there a flashable zip on here for this yet? Searched everywhere but can't find one.
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MrCopeland23 said:
Updated the Tmobile 5.0 today, deffeantly tell of the changes. My first problem though was the app updates. They would not up date while the new Google Play Services was updated. I Restarted my phone then unistalled the Google Play Services update to finally get rid of the clash. Just an FYI for yall out there
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Do you have a 0x0 Knox Counter? I'm debating on downloading NK4 and getting COD6 OTA becuase right now it's taking forever to download from sammobile.

KIES
C-4Nati said:
Is there a flashable zip on here for this yet? Searched everywhere but can't find one.
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Use Samsung Kies

good question on the counter, I have restarted my phone and have not seen it, Buuut I did freeze knox though. As far as updating Use Kies took about 10 mins

USB audio?
I got the Lollipop update this morning through T-mobile. It was smooth to update, and I haven't noticed battery issues or anything others had reporter.
However, I was super-excited for Lollipop, because it allows for USB microphones. And I've tried all 5 of the ones I own without success. I tried Samsung support, which was useless. They weren't even aware of the feature.
Do you think it's possible that Samsung or T-mobile bypassed this native feature to Lollipop? I was connecting via OTG cable. I haven't tried mic to powered hub to OTG yet, because I've seen Nexus owners on Lollypop just connect USB microphones via OTG.
I'd be grateful for any advice any of you gurus have out there. I am not rooted or running anything custom. I've been fairly happy with stock. But, like I started with, I was all the while looking forward to this Lollypop update for portable recording via USB. Is there something I'm missing? Thanks.

Downloading as I type...I'm sure I am wasting my time since I been rocking BeanStalk 5.0.2, but my curiosity is making me just give it a look and see how it works. It'll be nice to use the S-Pen features again, but Lollipop without all the bs that samsung and tmo put on there has been nothing short of amazing.

Why have the note 4 when you can have PURE android just like you want with the new 6 inch moto. But whatever guess I will never understand why people will buy a car. Strip it off its goods (rims/system/under the hood upgrades) just to have a classic stripped stock vehicle? I mean already having the features why give then away? I will never understand

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Why have the note 4 when you can have PURE android just like you want with the new 6 inch moto. But whatever guess I will never understand why people will buy a car. Strip it off its goods (rims/system/under the hood upgrades) just to have a classic stripped stock vehicle? I mean already having the features why give then away? I will never understand
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Assuming that you're talking about the Nexus 6/Moto X Pro, there's no need to debate/discuss why I would want TouchWiz on ANY level, which is why I was close to buying a Nexus 6. Honestly though, for me, while the Nexus 6/Moto X Pro isn't a bad phone(they're both really great phones), they lost me with no way to add extra storage or remove your battery if needed. In addition, while I have been running Beanstalk for the last few weeks, I still think the S-Pen is a really great feature to have on the Note 4. There's really no need to go into details about which phone is better, because it will always come down to preference, but in regards to your comment, it's not as stripped down as you present it to be.

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Assuming that you're talking about the Nexus 6/Moto X Pro, there's no need to debate/discuss why I would want TouchWiz on ANY level, which is why I was close to buying a Nexus 6. Honestly though, for me, while the Nexus 6/Moto X Pro isn't a bad phone(they're both really great phones), they lost me with no way to add extra storage or remove your battery if needed. In addition, while I have been running Beanstalk for the last few weeks, I still think the S-Pen is a really great feature to have on the Note 4. There's really no need to go into details about which phone is better, because it will always come down to preference, but in regards to your comment, it's not as stripped down as you present it to be.
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Alright bud. Just saying OK. Don't get like some of the people up in here right away biting haha. Ain't no one saying it with attitude or anything. I just don't get it but now I do ??

MrCopeland23 said:
Updated the Tmobile 5.0 today, deffeantly tell of the changes. My first problem though was the app updates. They would not up date while the new Google Play Services was updated. I Restarted my phone then unistalled the Google Play Services update to finally get rid of the clash. Just an FYI for yall out there
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Can I ask how you did that? I upgraded from BeanStalk to stock Lollipop via Kies, but I'm getting force closes on gapps services. Can barely use the phone they are coming in so frequently. What did you do to uninstall gapps and how did you get the correct version installed?

nano303 said:
Alright bud. Just saying OK. Don't get like some of the people up in here right away biting haha. Ain't no one saying it with attitude or anything. I just don't get it but now I do
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No attitude here, everyone is entitled to their opinions. I am certainly not hating on you for what you're saying and personally, in many(maybe most) aspects, those are flat out better phones than the Note 4. I just installed this bs lollipop so now as I type, I am flashing back to BeanStalk. The lack of a removable battery i could live with, but the expandable storage is a necessity for me, the only reason I am staying with the Note 4 since most phones that are coming out are converting to that style.

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Can I ask how you did that? I upgraded from BeanStalk to stock Lollipop via Kies, but I'm getting force closes on gapps services. Can barely use the phone they are coming in so frequently. What did you do to uninstall gapps and how did you get the correct version installed?
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You do not need to install gapps on stock ROMs. They are included. Installing them as a zip will break them. So, factory reset (or fresh install), and don't flash gapps.
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You do not need to install gapps on stock ROMs. They are included. Installing them as a zip will break them. So, factory reset (or fresh install), and don't flash gapps.
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Hey. Thanks for the reply. I actually didn't install gapps over the stock ROM. Not sure what it didn't like installing over Beanstalk. I did a wipe before I installed via kies. Anyway, I resolved by doing a factory reset, like you said. Did two actually. All is well now, thanks.

Presuming no Xposed framework will ever be available for Android N or later...

Presuming no Xposed framework will ever be available for Android N or later, what hardware would you buy today? I will not run an Android version without Xposed (due to the need for XPrivacy). Therefore, I seek opinions on the best available, future-proofed hardware to run Xposed. For example, it seems I should still be able to buy a new OnePlus 3T, nuke the Nougat it presumably ships with, and "upgrade" down to Android 6 w/ Xposed. I doubt that path will be an option with later hardware releases.
What's the best, cutting edge Xposed-compatible hardware—presuming I might still be running it 5 years from now?

None.
Also hardware isnt the issue. Software is.
A one plus will stipl run great after 5 years.
But probably new security issues will arise and there won't be bug fixes to those things from anyone.
Maybe there will be other alternatives to exposed, but personally speaking, my current nexus 6 wipl be my last smartphone.
I will either not use one in the future or simply continue using this phone until it dies.
Appart from being utterly disgusted by the regression of technology (removable batteries gone, headphone jacks gone, lack of support),
I also cant stand the privacy issues.

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I disagree, unless you were making a reference to Wirth's law. My Nexus 5 crawls today in comparison to how it ran years ago, and I'm constantly short on RAM when I wasn't in the past. Most of this is the bloat caused by apps. It will help, of course, that the OS wouldn't be upgraded.
A one plus will stipl run great after 5 years.
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I also perform the hardware repair on my N5 myself, so that's a factor. Things like battery replacement come into play after years of use.
But probably new security issues will arise and there won't be bug fixes to those things from anyone.
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That's effectively where I'm at now. The OTAs won't apply, and I don't care enough to go through the gyrations to update the OS with the patches.

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I disagree, unless you were making a reference to Wirth's law. My Nexus 5 crawls today in comparison to how it ran years ago, and I'm constantly short on RAM when I wasn't in the past. Most of this is the bloat caused by apps. It will help, of course, that the OS wouldn't be upgraded.
I also perform the hardware repair on my N5 myself, so that's a factor. Things like battery replacement come into play after years of use.
That's effectively where I'm at now. The OTAs won't apply, and I don't care enough to go through the gyrations to update the OS with the patches.
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Agreed I have Nexus 5, Redmi Note 3, Redmi Note 4, Moto G5 Plus, Mi5 at home
Nexus 5 feels ancient now though I love the form factor and the occasional times when it runs smooth off late
Im guessing EMMC might be degrading

Then I should buy more Android Phones, at least one for shopping, one for apps at sixes and sevens. I am in China and most of the apps don't want to obey the rules...
Plus: less pleasure for personalizing

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Please keep on topic and refrain from xposed lifespan assumptions , the OP is asking for a different opinion
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you pretty much already have my suggestion.... a OnePlus 3T. since you seem to need xposed (imho, just move on) all new phones will obviously be shipping with android 7.xx+, the 3T is the best phone to get. i doubt there will be an update to xposed so eventually you will need to update and its obvious that later android version will have superior memory management to make use of the 3T's memory.
if by chance, xposed does somehow live you will still be left with a great phone that is only further made better by whatever android version is available. a few weeks ago i helped several classmates switch ROM's. they all bought 3T's due to my recommendation. all are very happy. i suggest you get one while they are still available. i hope this helps! cheers!

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Thanks.
since you seem to need xposed (imho, just move on)
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Well, I *need* XPrivacy and not only is that dependent on Xposed but I subsequently found out that development likely won't support anything later than Marshmallow. So, that's where I'll be indefinitely until someone replicates that.
they all bought 3T's due to my recommendation. all are very happy. i suggest you get one while they are still available. i hope this helps! cheers!
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It does. Thanks. The largest concern is battery replacement, as it seems there are no genuine replacement batteries. Maybe that will change in a few years, though.

Well, I *need* XPrivacy.......
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well, if privacy is your concern their are many apps that can help. your familiari with AFWall+ so there's that. you could also use Island by Oasisfeng. i mostly use it to hide my friends titpics and my snapchat, kik accounts but the app will eventually be able to do so much more.
i dont know what type of privacy concerns you have but a firewall should be enough unless your either a spy or just paranoid.
The largest concern is battery replacement....
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you can find parts for this phone with an easy google search. i purchased a replacement screen for a friend that accidentally dropped her 3T from a balcony at school.
i truly suggest you move on to N. soon there O will be released and with it so many worthwhile features. if your lucky enough to get the chance to use it i suggest you do and not pass due to the lack of xposed. while i agree that xposed is great, its not worth passing over on updating to a better android release.
btw, now that there has been more info on the 1+5, i suggest you wait. give island a try and then i hope you go for the 1+5. cheers!

droidbot1337 said:
well, if privacy is your concern their are many apps that can help. your familiari with AFWall+ so there's that.
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In addition to XPrivacy, I'm already using AFWall+, AppOps Xposed, and an always-on VPN.
you could also use Island by Oasisfeng. i mostly use it to hide my friends titpics and my snapchat, kik accounts but the app will eventually be able to do so much more.
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Cool, I'll check it out for consideration to be added it into the mix. Thanks.
i dont know what type of privacy concerns you have but a firewall should be enough unless your either a spy or just paranoid.
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A firewall is necessary but insufficient due to in-band privacy leaks. I require XPrivacy to intercept calls and feed apps fake data. There is really no substitute for Xposed for this type of approach; you may remember PDroid and how clunky that was.
you can find parts for this phone with an easy google search.
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Hm. I was unable to find a genuine OnePlus 3T battery. I found a few obviously counterfeit batteries from dodgy ebay vendors, but I would certainly appreciate it if you could point me to a source for a genuine new replacement battery for a 3T.
i truly suggest you move on to N. soon there O will be released and with it so many worthwhile features.
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Thanks for sharing your perspective, but I'd rather not have a smartphone than to go without XPrivacy or its equivalent. I certainly need XPrivacy a lot more than I need some new UX. I already disable all the "cool" creepy google **** like google now cards and I deny the google app access to my mic & location (well, location services is disabled altogether, but you get the point). My smartphone on MM does what I want it to do, and I really don't need it to do anything more—especially if it comes at the cost of losing the fine-grained control over apps one has via XPrivacy.

Hijacking the thread, since you posted some nice alternatives. What about us that can't live without Amplify and Greenify?

FenrirMX said:
Hijacking the thread, since you posted some nice alternatives. What about us that can't live without Amplify and Greenify?
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Greenify doesn't require Xposed to work, just for the "boost" features. It works just fine on my 6P running 7.1.2, which means I have no Xposed.

another thread hijack since someone mention xposed module alternatives
can someone create a thread specifically list down all the alternatives for xposed modules? I am switching to S8 which is nougat only so I need to find alternatives for my xposed modules
- app settings: no alt
- appopsxposed: no alt
- boot manager: no alt
- nekosms: samsung default messaging app block feature (although not as complete)
- rootcloak: magisk
- xtouchwiz: manually deal with csc xml

Garock said:
another thread hijack since someone mention xposed module alternatives
can someone create a thread specifically list down all the alternatives for xposed modules? I am switching to S8 which is nougat only so I need to find alternatives for my xposed modules
- app settings: no alt
- appopsxposed: no alt
- boot manager: no alt
- nekosms: samsung default messaging app block feature (although not as complete)
- rootcloak: magisk
- xtouchwiz: manually deal with csc xml
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Does Magisk directly replace Rootcloak? Doesn't Magiskhide only hide Magisk, not root?

ldeveraux said:
Does Magisk directly replace Rootcloak? Doesn't Magiskhide only hide Magisk, not root?
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Magisk hides its root.

josephcsible said:
Magisk hides its root.
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Right, not SuperSU though.

ldeveraux said:
Right, not SuperSU though.
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not sure but I thought magisk hide will also hide root from other apps
but you're correct, magisk hide needs magisksu and cannot work with supersu

Root or Not Root that's the question

Hi together,
I am wondering which benefits I can expect from rooting my device.
One thing that comes to my mind is having an option to use face unlock for older unlock APIs.
What do you guys think?

Tirade incoming...
I'm probably in the minority, but I won't buy a phone I cannot root. The idea that the phone that I paid $1000 for up front is under the control of other companies seems wrong to me. I have full control over my computers... my ISP doesn't tell me what I can run on it and can't force me to use their DNS; Microsoft doesn't tell me that I'm breaking a EULA by running admin programs; my bank's website doesn't refuse to load because I'm running a lot of browser extensions that can modify the page. Google says they respect that people want control over their phones but they also say they respect app creator's wanting to run on an unmodified device. I throw those companies to the wind and don't look back. If only Google would stop blocking access to things and requiring us to use root to gain them back. They give and take features almost constantly and it often feels like a losing battle.
Ideology aside, there are so many small things that can be done through rooting. The next best alternative is either awkward or non-existent. I could name them off, but each thing on their own is easily dismissable is about preference. But if I had to use a phone that had none of my modifications/tweaks, I would be fairly unhappy. I don't think you'll understand the difference until you're actually changing your phone significantly as a whole then have to consider going back. A lot of things you won't know you even wanted until you find that they're possible... and a lot of things you'll look at and not even care about, despite them being popular to other people. That's what rooting is to me. Choices and options... in a world where Apple and even Google think that less is more.
I think if you're willing to experiment and put a significant amount of time in doing so, you should dive in and find out what you like. But if you're on the ropes about it, then you might not get into it.

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Tirade incoming...
I'm probably in the minority, but I won't buy a phone I cannot root. The idea that the phone that I paid $1000 for up front is under the control of other companies seems wrong to me. I have full control over my computers... my ISP doesn't tell me what I can run on it and can't force me to use their DNS; Microsoft doesn't tell me that I'm breaking a EULA by running admin programs; my bank's website doesn't refuse to load because I'm running a lot of browser extensions that can modify the page. Google says they respect that people want control over their phones but they also say they respect app creator's wanting to run on an unmodified device. I throw those companies to the wind and don't look back. If only Google would stop blocking access to things and requiring us to use root to gain them back. They give and take features almost constantly and it often feels like a losing battle.
Ideology aside, there are so many small things that can be done through rooting. The next best alternative is either awkward or non-existent. I could name them off, but each thing on their own is easily dismissable is about preference. But if I had to use a phone that had none of my modifications/tweaks, I would be fairly unhappy. I don't think you'll understand the difference until you're actually changing your phone significantly as a whole then have to consider going back. A lot of things you won't know you even wanted until you find that they're possible... and a lot of things you'll look at and not even care about, despite them being popular to other people. That's what rooting is to me. Choices and options... in a world where Apple and even Google think that less is more.
I think if you're willing to experiment and put a significant amount of time in doing so, you should dive in and find out what you like. But if you're on the ropes about it, then you might not get into it.
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To make that clear. I rooted every android phone I owned up to now. There has been always a thing that bothered me about the stock ROM.
But this time I feel like everything is working out of the box. (Except face unlock for ing, which sux)
I get your point and you are totally right. But I'm not sure if I want to change so much and having to update on my own and other things is to much work for me.

SeppGoPro said:
To make that clear. I rooted every android phone I owned up to now. There has been always a thing that bothered me about the stock ROM.
But this time I feel like everything is working out of the box. (Except face unlock for ing, which sux)
I get your point and you are totally right. But I'm not sure if I want to change so much and having to update on my own and other things is to much work for me.
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I hear you. Rooting used to be fun and easy but it's more work than I want to deal with at this point.
Sent from my Pixel 4 XL using XDA Labs

It takes me longer the download the stock image to do updates with than it takes me to re-root the phone after the update. I wonder why it seems like a lot of work to you.
PS. My broadband ISP is slow....

jljtgr said:
It takes me longer the download the stock image to do updates with than it takes me to re-root the phone after the update. I wonder why it seems like a lot of work to you.
PS. My broadband ISP is slow....
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It takes more time, which you actively have to spend. It's not like ow there is an update. Ok install done.
You have to go through all steps. You have to e.g. change settings in build.prop again. Flash kernel or what ever.
One example with rooted and problems with apps I'm always unsure if it's due to root or due to the rom. Stuff like this.

I don't have to do either of those things. My build.prop changes are systemlessly handled by a Magisk module that just works as soon as I'm rooted again. YMMV.
I've spent more time writing in this thread than my monthly process takes. If you don't have that time, then fine. You've answered your own question?

I've rooted all my devices except the pixel ones. There's absolutely no need for me to root a pixel device, everything is working as I want out of the box. That's one reason that development for the pixel 4/xl is nearly non existent.

ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!

dave5777 said:
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
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Yes this would be the only reason for me.

first reason finger face
second reason motion sense..
now on android beta 2.5 not rooted

Why choose android if you are going to use a limited system?
If i could live without root i would just go iPhone way

fuarkgl3 said:
Why choose android if you are going to use a limited system?
If i could live without root i would just go iPhone way
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Cause the limited system will do what most people need it to do

dave5777 said:
ROOT! #1 reason Fingerface for fingerprint only APIs, other than that I agree the Pixel phones don't need any modifications. I hope the Pixel 5 will bring back the FP, face unlock sucks with a mask!
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Pull it down for half a sec.

Mackay53 said:
Cause the limited system will do what most people need it to do
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Again. If you are going to use a limited system why choose android over iOS?
I don't understand your reply

fuarkgl3 said:
Again. If you are going to use a limited system why choose android over iOS?
I don't understand your reply
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Because many people like what Android has to offer over iOS, simple. Rooting isn't as useful as what it used to be

Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...

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Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
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From what I've been reading it's going to be hard to get Google Pay to work with root. I only use root to bring back the 2 button gesture using a Magisk module. I don't know if it's worth it anymore.

xtravbx said:
Does google pay work currently root? Magisk hide?
Or is that out of the question now...
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Google pay works right now for me and I'm rooted running 11 beta 2.5.

fr0st420 said:
From what I've been reading it's going to be hard to get Google Pay to work with root. I only use root to bring back the 2 button gesture using a Magisk module. I don't know if it's worth it anymore.
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I want to root so I can run ProtonVPN (or any VPN really) alongside Adguard. You can't run them side x side without root....
Admittedly a little sick of the whole big brother thing, so wouldn't mind obscuring my traffic a bit.