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As the title says should I root my moto g?
I am not sure because I got this device a month ago and it is working fine, but I am missing my root apps and ****, and I am worried about the warranty, can I get it back after I root.
I am on dual Sim model 1098
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Your warranty will be void if you unlock bootloader, no matter you root your phone or not.
for now there is no exploit to root phone w/o unlocking bootloader so if you want to root you have to unlock bootloader which will void warranty
I'm going to wait until the "big" update before unlock, root because they have not released the kernel source yet. there's no custom Roms yet either.
no whiners
bhavin192 said:
Your warranty will be void if you unlock bootloader, no matter you root your phone or not.
for now there is no exploit to root phone w/o unlocking bootloader so if you want to root you have to unlock bootloader which will void warranty
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Thank you for your reply, I have decided not to root my phone and wait till custom Roms arrive, I hope that Motorola will do it asap, after the BIG update...
Thank you everyone..
jrny99 said:
I'm going to wait until the "big" update before unlock, root because they have not released the kernel source yet. there's no custom Roms yet either.
no whiners
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One reason to root your phone is to get Greenified and Lion Tamer installed. These two apps combined help get my battery from lasting most of the day to a full day. And I have a 4 hours of screen on time, with hard use.
zerogun said:
One reason to root your phone is to get Greenified and Lion Tamer installed. These two apps combined help get my battery from lasting most of the day to a full day. And I have a 4 hours of screen on time, with hard use.
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Wow really???
Turn I can think of rooting, but losing my warranty would be a big loss...
I have had my phone for about three weeks now and have yet to find a reason that I cannot live without rooting. It runs great, and my battery life is more than sufficient. To void my warranty for very little gan just doesn't make sense to me.
Maybe when there are some decent "Lollipop" custom ROM's I may consider it again. But that will be several months down the road. And by then I will be out of warranty.
Considering that the Kernel Source for the X 2nd Gen just dropped on Github and that the G 2nd Gen will be next, I say why not
I'm very anxious to see what devs will do with the Sources
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I rooted my phone to get screen casting working on my chromecast !! Moto G2 does not support screen casting on chromecast officially !
jadephyre said:
Considering that the Kernel Source for the X 2nd Gen just dropped on Github and that the G 2nd Gen will be next, I say why not
I'm very anxious to see what devs will do with the Sources
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Ohh great news...
I hope they do it asap and the devs will start there work....
Trying to make the Moto G (2nd) act like it's a Moto X is a waste of effort . (IMHO)
It like putting dual exhaust and chrome headers on a "Rice Rocket".
It's just a great little old cheap phone.
I have a low budget phone and am buying a excellent tablet such as the Nexus 9.
kdkinc said:
Trying to make the Moto G (2nd) act like it's a Moto X is a waste of effort . (IMHO)
It like putting dual exhaust and chrome headers on a "Rice Rocket".
It's just a great little old cheap phone.
I have a low budget phone and am buying a excellent tablet such as the Nexus 9.
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What is the problem with rooting the phone and putting a custom ROM on it?
It's not about "pimping" it out, I want features that i'm missing from my Nexus 4 which are purely software and that can not be adequately replicated with crap like Xposed.
Also, I consider Xposed malware as it is essentially a vulnerability (yes, I know, it depends on the Module, but still).
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What is the problem with rooting the phone and putting a custom ROM on it?
It's not about "pimping" it out, I want features that i'm missing from my Nexus 4 which are purely software and that can not be adequately replicated with crap like Xposed.
Also, I consider Xposed malware as it is essentially a vulnerability (yes, I know, it depends on the Module, but still).
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I should of clarified my position better.
The Moto G is the first phone that I haven't rooted.... (yet)
However you can be sure when I get my Nexus 9 I'll be screwing around with all the rom's and features as their made available.
kdkinc said:
I should of clarified my position better.
The Moto G is the first phone that I haven't rooted.... (yet)
However you can be sure when I get my Nexus 9 I'll be screwing around with all the rom's and features as their made available.
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Ah, I see
No harm done then
sent from my Moto G 2nd Gen
I didn't rooted mine yet, but there's a few reasons for me to root:
Ads are anoying as fu*k;
Xposed framework for me is essential;
And a bunch of other apps that i need root to use. I'm just waiting the lollipop to root
Moto G is the first phone I didn´t root right at the start til now and because of this I must say that I never ever thought that there are so many ads! I´t s a headache,all that crap.
So I consider to root just for Adaway. Ok,Titanium and some other apps are not bad to have too.
But is it better to wait until lollipop? Returning to stock seems not to be that easy. For me it´s a hard decision.
rffslow said:
I didn't rooted mine yet, but there's a few reasons for me to root:
Ads are anoying as fu*k;
Xposed framework for me is essential;
And a bunch of other apps that i need root to use. I'm just waiting the lollipop to root
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Really ads are a fuc*king headache, I have been looking for some way to disable ads without root, but there isn't a way, sadly this is one of the things I would root for...
Thank you for your reply..
Wolfcity said:
Moto G is the first phone I didn´t root right at the start til now and because of this I must say that I never ever thought that there are so many ads! I´t s a headache,all that crap.
So I consider to root just for Adaway. Ok,Titanium and some other apps are not bad to have too.
But is it better to wait until lollipop? Returning to stock seems not to be that easy. For me it´s a hard decision.
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kdkinc said:
Trying to make the Moto G (2nd) act like it's a Moto X is a waste of effort . (IMHO)
It like putting dual exhaust and chrome headers on a "Rice Rocket".
It's just a great little old cheap phone.
I have a low budget phone and am buying a excellent tablet such as the Nexus 9.
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You are rich my friend you can buy anything you want, for people like us who only have a budget of 100 to 150 bucks this phone is great, Now for me I won't be able to buy anything phone or tablet till next year ?, I wish I could buy nexus 9, I think it is priced some 28k₹, That's like too much for me right now...
I wish I could have money like you people..
Thank you for your reply...[emoji6]
Since the lg g2 has gotten Safestrap shouldnt the lg g4 get one too? I mean we dont have a bootloader thingy for our device cant we just develop one?
I believe the problem is they cant side step the bootloader the same way as they have in the past. Truthfuly im just waiting on 6.0 before i put any major effort into developing for this phone. I have it pretty tricked out now without being unlocked but just rooted. Once 6.0 comes out i will put much effort into exploiting a loophole in lgs bootloader. This is my first lg phone had no idea it was so dead on the developers side but i see why now. I have been hacking phones since the htc touch before android even existed. Anyways between work and knowing it will shortly be updated to 6.0 im just waiting for that and then i will rip this phone apart. I got this phone for a penny and could care less about it so when i say i will give her hell i mean ill go at it with no worries.
danweb66 said:
I believe the problem is they cant side step the bootloader the same way as they have in the past. Truthfuly im just waiting on 6.0 before i put any major effort into developing for this phone. I have it pretty tricked out now without being unlocked but just rooted. Once 6.0 comes out i will put much effort into exploiting a loophole in lgs bootloader. This is my first lg phone had no idea it was so dead on the developers side but i see why now. I have been hacking phones since the htc touch before android even existed. Anyways between work and knowing it will shortly be updated to 6.0 im just waiting for that and then i will rip this phone apart. I got this phone for a penny and could care less about it so when i say i will give her hell i mean ill go at it with no worries.
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Finally another old schooler!
I miss how much fun it was to hack phones back in the day, and some of the stuff we had to do back then makes Android phone development look simple. Oh man, back when you could do everything just right and still brick the hell out of your phone because htc or palm would sneak in a hardware change in the middle of a production run
I may start a new thread in original development thread. One on the sole purpose of unlocking the bootloader. For those of you with advance coding skills this is a very interesting read and may eventually lead us in the right direction. http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html?m=1
I am currently in the process of pulling our blocks and ciphering through the code. Im not sure if his exact method will work as it looks like they may have reversed engineered his exploit and fixed it. But i believe that the basic concept of going after unlocking the bootloader by manipulating the code itself from tge blockchains will still work we just need to see what has been done and start back tracking to the point of where it can be xploited.
Like i stated earlier i may open a thread in original development devoted to this and maybe get a meeting of the minds. Like a think tank if you will. If i could get a team together of oldschoolers and new millenniumers and assign a block to be sifted through to groups rather than by myself im sure we could figure this out.
danweb66 said:
I believe the problem is they cant side step the bootloader the same way as they have in the past. Truthfuly im just waiting on 6.0 before i put any major effort into developing for this phone. I have it pretty tricked out now without being unlocked but just rooted. Once 6.0 comes out i will put much effort into exploiting a loophole in lgs bootloader. This is my first lg phone had no idea it was so dead on the developers side but i see why now. I have been hacking phones since the htc touch before android even existed. Anyways between work and knowing it will shortly be updated to 6.0 im just waiting for that and then i will rip this phone apart. I got this phone for a penny and could care less about it so when i say i will give her hell i mean ill go at it with no worries.
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If u need anyy help let me know i can restore most bricks working on qloader brick fix like g2 and g3 but if u need any testing im game
Appears this is where we come to an end with development and rooting. All other g4s have been Rooted on Android m. We just don't have any love for this device. Appears we all messed up when we chose sprint as our carrier. Argh!
Wat, who are you? What makes you think you can make that call? There are people that spent countless hours making ROMs and Developing for the Sprint LG G4 and you think you have the final say?
Quoting what you said just in case you edit you post: "Appears this is where we come to an end with development and rooting. All other g4s have been Rooted on Android m. We just don't have any love for this device. Appears we all messed up when we chose sprint as our carrier. Argh!" with screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/DxsEmvG.png
Not the right way to think, just wait. Have you contributed in anyway to the Sprint LG G4 here on XDA? I sure have with my free hotspot bug (patched on Android M).
I highly doubt Verizon G4 is rooted on m.
In fact I don't think they even have Marshmallow update yet.
what is so appealing in Marshmallow to make one want to upgrade urgently? If you have stable L with root and xposed, why not staying with it. I do not think there is Xposed for M anyways yet, which is the main reason to root this phone.
I am with you. This phone is the most disappointing tech purchase in all my years of existence. I love the camera and removable battery but this phone is just crap and doesn't get much dev love. I beat if the bootloader got unlocked and I can load a true rom on it this phone would be great. I think most of the problems is LG's crappy modifications to android. Every time it get slow, unresponsive, the touch screen lags behind, or a stupid Sprint notification advertisement pops up I want to chuck it against a wall and then jump off a cliff.
I am just using this as a rude awakening to the future. This will most likely be one of the last phones that isn't sealed tight. Guess I need to carry around a clunky battery pack with cable dangling from my pockets instead of a small quick batter swap. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader will become ever more difficult with upcoming phones. The glory days are over I feel
centran said:
I am with you. This phone is the most disappointing tech purchase in all my years of existence. I love the camera and removable battery but this phone is just crap and doesn't get much dev love. I beat if the bootloader got unlocked and I can load a true rom on it this phone would be great. I think most of the problems is LG's crappy modifications to android. Every time it get slow, unresponsive, the touch screen lags behind, or a stupid Sprint notification advertisement pops up I want to chuck it against a wall and then jump off a cliff.
I am just using this as a rude awakening to the future. This will most likely be one of the last phones that isn't sealed tight. Guess I need to carry around a clunky battery pack with cable dangling from my pockets instead of a small quick batter swap. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader will become ever more difficult with upcoming phones. The glory days are over I feel
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I disabled and uninstalled everything I could with sprint software. Haven't had any of their pop ups in months. It seems you bought a phone in one of the bad batches with your lagging screen.
I hate their UI though...
One of the best phones I've had in terms of specs etc. Would be something if I could run CM13 on this one day..
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I don't have Android M on my phone yet....
...so maybe I can keep my hopes up. Sprint didn't give me Marshmallow on my phone. I'm not begging for it either. From what I'm gathering here, you're all good if you're on Lollipop (5.1) Right?
EmSeeMAC said:
I disabled and uninstalled everything I could with sprint software. Haven't had any of their pop ups in months. It seems you bought a phone in one of the bad batches with your lagging screen.
I hate their UI though...
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Yep I had a bad batch phone and it was before Sprint admitted the problem so I sent it to LG. LG fixed my phone but did not replace it. That is probably the big problem. Now I have a phone that is only having lagging problems and since that is subjective and random so not easily repeatable I am screwed.
SeeLaH said:
...so maybe I can keep my hopes up. Sprint didn't give me Marshmallow on my phone. I'm not begging for it either. From what I'm gathering here, you're all good if you're on Lollipop (5.1) Right?
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We do have Marshmallow, but the OTA is taking reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaally long.
I just got the notification a few minutes ago for the update. I'm from Michigan and figured I was one of the last places to get it but I guess not. Newho, I've read that there's gonna be more dev work on our g4 but they were waiting for Android m to come out before they focused their energy to cracking the bootloader. Stay patient as the carriers are getting wise to what our devs have been doing and they try to seal up the phone to keep us out. But when there's a will there's a way and it will happen eventually.
Well I'm hoping for ultrapop marshmallow, lol. The phone stock was fine and ultrapop was perfect for me. Would be nice to have cm in this phone but ultrapop was all I really need.
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esloudan said:
Well I'm hoping for ultrapop marshmallow, lol. The phone stock was fine and ultrapop was perfect for me. Would be nice to have cm in this phone but ultrapop was all I really need.
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Don't think that's gonna happen, as MM security is the reason we don't even have systemless root yet. UltraPop relies on changing the system partition, which the Lollipop boot sequence isn't as strong. in MM as soon as the system partition is changed, it causes hashes and whatnot to change, the boot sequence detects the changes and doesn't allow the phone to boot. I think we'll need an unlocked bootloader for UP-type "pseudo-roms"
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Don't think that's gonna happen, as MM security is the reason we don't even have systemless root yet. UltraPop relies on changing the system partition, which the Lollipop boot sequence isn't as strong. in MM as soon as the system partition is changed, it causes hashes and whatnot to change, the boot sequence detects the changes and doesn't allow the phone to boot. I think we'll need an unlocked bootloader for UP-type "pseudo-roms"
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Exactly. I was able to work-around the system partition in ZV6 because LG security only checked for certain files were present. In ZV8, there is LG security checksum for the whole system partition. Since we have a locked bootloader, we can't modify Kernel without tripping the boot security. I am still going to try to get a modified stock ROM working, or maybe mix of ZV6/ZV8, but have not had much time lately.
Roms for our phone? please tell me where roms are at for our phone. i only see 1. that is still stock. ultrapop
Go to the Sprint Fun and Games app and hit the menu button, then settings, then deselect the box Atuomatically install Zone / Fun & Game updates and the notifications boxes. Super disappointed in Sprint for having this.
centran said:
I am with you. This phone is the most disappointing tech purchase in all my years of existence. I love the camera and removable battery but this phone is just crap and doesn't get much dev love. I beat if the bootloader got unlocked and I can load a true rom on it this phone would be great. I think most of the problems is LG's crappy modifications to android. Every time it get slow, unresponsive, the touch screen lags behind, or a stupid Sprint notification advertisement pops up I want to chuck it against a wall and then jump off a cliff.
I am just using this as a rude awakening to the future. This will most likely be one of the last phones that isn't sealed tight. Guess I need to carry around a clunky battery pack with cable dangling from my pockets instead of a small quick batter swap. Rooting and unlocking the bootloader will become ever more difficult with upcoming phones. The glory days are over I feel
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This phone has plenty of "dev love". Some of the best developers are trying their hand at it. There's a huge bounty for unlocking the bootloader, and plenty of people trying to earn it.
The problem is, until one of them (or the part timers like me) stumble across something that works, we're in a holding pattern. We have something stable that works in Android L with root and xposed framework, and until the bootloader issue is solved, that will have to do.
Be patient, OR hit the general Android development section and LEARN. Do it yourself. Grab the bounty. There's plenty of us doing what we can, even as far as hard bricking our devices and getting them replaced by trying methods that work for other devices. I myself am on my second LS991 from trying a method that worked on the kindle fire where you get into fastboot by nuking laf and still haven't had any luck getting a patched bootloader to stick.
So cool off and have some patience. Some people haven't even had the official OTA roll out to their area yet and you're crying that you don't have rooted M? Grow up.
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agentfusion said:
This phone has plenty of "dev love". Some of the best developers are trying their hand at it. There's a huge bounty for unlocking the bootloader, and plenty of people trying to earn it.
The problem is, until one of them (or the part timers like me) stumble across something that works, we're in a holding pattern. We have something stable that works in Android L with root and xposed framework, and until the bootloader issue is solved, that will have to do.
Be patient, OR hit the general Android development section and LEARN. Do it yourself. Grab the bounty. There's plenty of us doing what we can, even as far as hard bricking our devices and getting them replaced by trying methods that work for other devices. I myself am on my second LS991 from trying a method that worked on the kindle fire where you get into fastboot by nuking laf and still haven't had any luck getting a patched bootloader to stick.
So cool off and have some patience. Some people haven't even had the official OTA roll out to their area yet and you're crying that you don't have rooted M? Grow up.
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LG will not be unlocking any other G4's except the Euro H815.
Hello,
Thank you for your interest in LG mobile devices.
Currently, you can only unlock bootloader for LG G4 for the European market with model number H815.
And we have no plan to support bootloader unlocking for H815T.
If there are any changes to the supported devices, we will let you know via our website.
Thank you.
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DaemeonZane said:
LG will not be unlocking any other G4's except the Euro H815.
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And? That doesn't mean they can't be unlocked by other means. It just means LG will not be providing the binary file for oem-unlock via fastboot. Some of us have already gotten limited fastboot access by willingly destroying the laf partition and using a serial USB connection. Right now I'm working on trying to figure out how to get access to other fastboot commands not available in this limited mode, then it's just a matter of creating a reliable semi-automated process so it's accessible to less technical users, and if no one beats me to it; collecting the bounty on a reliable bootloader unlock and ability to flash recovery and make it stick. (Which, to be absolutely honest ... Though I'm not working with anyone else, I would not have gotten *anywhere* without ideas others have bounced around on these forums that helped me make progress when stuck, so I will contact each of them privately to divide half of the bounty between them if I am first to be able to collect it)
I remember there was some rom development for the moto z play when I had it. There seems to be no interest for this 3rd generation model. Is there something like an uncrackable, locked bootloader that's stopping developers in their tracks or just no interest in kernels and tweaked roms?
Perhaps some, but from what I've seen, (and I've owned Moto X, Z, Z2play and now this one) there's not a whole lot of development. Some, but not much. Probably because the OS is very vanilla and smooth, for one. And two, unfortunately, they are just not very popular devices.
On the Moto X, most seemed to want to just root and use xposed, and stay stock. Otherwise cool proprietary Moto apps and functions were lost. Not available on custom roms.
The fact that downgrading is near impossible without bricking doesn't help either.
Warranty is void when you unlock bootloader on Moto's site and that probably deters many from messing with the device too.
But this phone is very new still, hopefully some development starts up. Just may take more time, cause it's not that popular and not as many own it. Developers may not be buying it cause it's the 3rd generation now and they've seen that it's not that popular in the past. Time will tell.
Oh, and if mod use is affected by custom roms, that would be a huge roadblock too. For many folks anyways.
When do you think root will be available for this phone? That is what I am waiting for before I buy it.
G.I. Jew said:
When do you think root will be available for this phone? That is what I am waiting for before I buy it.
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Probably not until a developer or two get this device and work on it.
Problem is, it's 3rd generation, and developers know that development is quiet on the Z's. Many Moto's really. So they choose a more popular device in many cases.
Hopefully we see some action soon though! Or learn to do for ourselves.
...delete me
Just bought this phone and will see about development, I want to get back into it, the only thing I built before was a kernel for Surnia , development is very different nowadays so if it's not to hard count me in.
Hopefully we can get twrp/root. Viper would be awesome on this phone! Thinking about this phone but I AM NOT GOING TO THROW AWAY HARDWARE WARRENTY TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER. Oneplus 6 looks better but sucks with no fm radio/duel stereo speakers/sd card.
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vq8acsxht said:
Hopefully we can get twrp/root. Viper would be awesome on this phone! Thinking about this phone but I AM NOT GOING TO THROW AWAY HARDWARE WARRENTY TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER. Oneplus 6 looks better but sucks with no fm radio/duel stereo speakers/sd card.
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You won't have root then on this device, if it becomes an option. Have to unlock bootloader, which kills your warranty.
Darth said:
You won't have root then on this device, if it becomes an option. Have to unlock bootloader, which kills your warranty.
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I wonder about this, has there been a case where a manufacturer refused to repair a phone because of warranty root wise?
That is what I am wondering, also. I do not mind them killing the software support. Besides, sounds fony bolony that a person rooting can mess up software that factory reset can't fix. On the other hand, TWRP can brick a phone by flashing things. But if GPS/screen dies, that is not because of TWRP/flashing things, that is because chips have failed aka. hardware failure. What can cause hardware/cpu's failure is bring cpu's up to 100% and leaving there or overclocking them but who would do that? I think a custom ROM is easier on the processors because of all the stock crapware that continues digging for hours on hours for private information making the phone hot. The facebook app is the one that made my phone warm and when I killed it with a root uninstaller, the phone cooled back down.
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That is what I am wondering, also. I do not mind them killing the software support. Besides, sounds fony bolony that a person rooting can mess up software that factory reset can't fix. On the other hand, TWRP can brick a phone by flashing things. But if GPS/screen dies, that is not because of TWRP/flashing things, that is because chips have failed aka. hardware failure. What can cause hardware/cpu's failure is bring cpu's up to 100% and leaving there or overclocking them but who would do that? I think a custom ROM is easier on the processors because of all the stock crapware that continues digging for hours on hours for private information making the phone hot. The facebook app is the one that made my phone warm and when I killed it with a root uninstaller, the phone cooled back down.
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Actually recent Motos are easy to brick if you do things wrong. Particularly trying to downgrade firmware. Check Out other moto sections, lots of "help I bricked my phone" threads. Many can be fixed by us, but how many don't even try and send it in under warranty?
So that's one definite reason to deny warranty. Though its not directly related to rooting.
I agree. I think they panic and need the phone to work. I like Samsung or Alcatel way of restore the phone to stock. Samsung especially. Turn phone off and plug it into the computer and send firmware to phone. I just wonder why newbies do not read and understand how to restore phone to stock BEFORE touching the phone. They do not ask themselves, "Do I have ALL OF THE TOOLS" to restore phone to factory settings/firmware and "Do I have the firmware". They just want to know how to do mods to phone to see what other tricks the phone can do. Roll over, but DO NOT PLAY DEAD! Crap, "My phone just died". Warranty, where's the warranty card and phone number, now?
vq8acsxht said:
Hopefully we can get twrp/root. Viper would be awesome on this phone! Thinking about this phone but I AM NOT GOING TO THROW AWAY HARDWARE WARRENTY TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER. Oneplus 6 looks better but sucks with no fm radio/duel stereo speakers/sd card.
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Are you a time-traveler who just appeared here naked in the streets, behind a dumpster, with only memories of 2010 in your head?
(Just checking...)
"Viper would be AWESOME on this phone!"
Lolololol-plop.
+ And "TWRP"??
What year *did* the EVO 3D come out anyway?
yourbrotherrex said:
Are you a time-traveler who just appeared here naked in the streets, behind a dumpster, with only memories of 2010 in your head?
(Just checking...)
"Viper would be AWESOME on this phone!"
Lolololol-plop.
+ And "TWRP"??
What year *did* the EVO 3D come out anyway?
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@Darth. If you can translate what the crack pot is saying, thank you. I do not speak pot head, sorry. Not unless he/she/it is infering that he/she/it has just rooted/twrp with viperfx installed?
Hey guys! I have been scouting around for Note 8 help but thought it was time to join myself.
Hopefully if I am able to solve my specific problem or get my questions asked it can help someone else.
Specifically, right now, I picked up and refurbished a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 since I have one currently that is phenominal, and wanted one in the back pocket in case anything happens but it is locked to ATT, which isnt the real problem. The real problem is that it is still on Android 7.1.1 and I would like to get it to Android 9 Pie.
I am unsure of a few things like whether I need all updates between 7 and 9, or if I can jump straight to it. But things of that sort.
It sucks that its ATT locked but I feel its worse that its on old Android since I refurbed it, (fixed screen and replaced with fresh samsung battery) but its being held back in certain functional capabilities. Either way, I am a techy, not yet able to solder, but definitely able to troubleshoot my way around a Windows Blue screen of death.
Looking forward to learnin more!
MethudMann said:
Hey guys! I have been scouting around for Note 8 help but thought it was time to join myself.
Hopefully if I am able to solve my specific problem or get my questions asked it can help someone else.
Specifically, right now, I picked up and refurbished a Samsung Galaxy Note 8 since I have one currently that is phenominal, and wanted one in the back pocket in case anything happens but it is locked to ATT, which isnt the real problem. The real problem is that it is still on Android 7.1.1 and I would like to get it to Android 9 Pie.
I am unsure of a few things like whether I need all updates between 7 and 9, or if I can jump straight to it. But things of that sort.
It sucks that its ATT locked but I feel its worse that its on old Android since I refurbed it, (fixed screen and replaced with fresh samsung battery) but its being held back in certain functional capabilities. Either way, I am a techy, not yet able to solder, but definitely able to troubleshoot my way around a Windows Blue screen of death.
Looking forward to learnin more!
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Welcome to XDA! As for updating your phone, could you please tell me your model number?
ethical_haquer said:
Welcome to XDA! As for updating your phone, could you please tell me your model number?
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Yeah, sorry for long response time.
For the important info:
Model: SM-N950U
Android. 7.1.1
Build:NMF26X.N950USQU1AQH7
CSC: ATT
I'll monitor more closely so let me know if you need any other info
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Yeah, sorry for long response time.
For the important info:
Model: SM-N950U
Android. 7.1.1
Build:NMF26X.N950USQU1AQH7
CSC: ATT
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Alright, there are two versions of firmware available for your device. One is "branded" and has carrier bloat, whereas the other does not have carrier bloat but might have issues with VoLTE (probably not, but there is a chance). What one would you prefer? Let me know if you have any questions regarding the difference.
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Alright, there are two versions of firmware available for your device. One is "branded" and has carrier bloat, whereas the other does not have carrier bloat but might have issues with VoLTE (probably not, but there is a chance). What one would you prefer? Let me know if you have any questions regarding the difference.
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Thanks for the research and yes I do have questions if its not too much of an issue:
1.) Carrier bloat is like the usual and can just be deleted anyways correct?
2.) In what scenarios (in case everything was working fine with OTA updates) would the phone have downloaded a version without bloat?
3.) Would updating to the non-bloated version cause any issues since the phone is still carrier locked?
4.) Lastly, for the firmware, would I need to download multiple updates until that point or just straight to the firmware?
If not, I can research the answers as I have been on it on and off for a month with research but other than that, you're a god send.
By the way, if #1 is true, I'll just take the bloatware no doubt just to be as safe as possible.
Thanks again for all the help @ethical_haquer
Been busy researching in the Samsung Note 8 ATT threads and I was able to find the answer to number 4 in that using Full ODIN files is a complete flash and different than just an update which requires the previous updates.
The answer to number 3 from what I have seen no. The only thing is that certain features may NOT work such as VoLTE; pretty much you already answered 3 and I was literally too dumb to see that until I started writing this message. *face palm
Question 2 is pretty much inconsequential so don't worry answering that. Its was just curiosity. But for anyone who does see this possibly, my speculation is that NO, the carrier version would never download the non-carrier version. The non-branded update is for those unlocked phones that receive over-the-air (OTA) updates that were not associated with any carrier, in other words buying a phone directly from samsung's website.
For 1, I am guessing it is "Yes" since I was able to do that in the past with all my other phones. But either way it is not a make it or break it so it doesn't matter.
I have been able to find some full ODIN files for the updates I was looking for, so will be attempting my first flash soon. Will be posting all my findings to the thread I was reading just to potentially help anyone else (though rare since this device is getting real old) who has the same questions I had and I can get them up to speed without having to search everything
Just finished flashing the ATT Note 8 to and the Answer to Number 1 is that NO, you cannot Uninstall the bloatware
Again, will post all these findings to the proper thread in after completed
Sorry for the late reply! I would try installing the firmware for the SM-N950U1 (notice the 1). It should work and won't have carrier bloat.
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Sorry for the late reply! I would try installing the firmware for the SM-N950U1 (notice the 1). It should work and won't have carrier bloat.
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You're all good!
I may but I actually have to find one more update I am looking for (Full ODIN FILES). My daily driver note 8 is on N950USQS7DTE5 and it is a T-Mobile Version (though it bein g TMO is inconsequential at the moment. Just thought I might mention it).
That is the update I would like for ATT just so that I know there wont be any differences (or less differences) between my daily driver and this.This is me being picky at this point but isn't the point of life getting what you want? I found one update above that but different bootloader. So for whatever reason may happen, no going back.
What I currently flashed to was N950USQS3BRA8 so it's still on Android 7.1.1 but I did this just to test to the process (my first flashing). Now I am ready.
So I will look for that then flash it and update as usual
Just found, or couldnt find, that ATT has the same update so will just go with what I have. Close as I can get