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notification trackball/LED substitute

I am going to be using this trackball/LED notification substitute for a few days to see if it eats battery or FCs: http://www.devasque.com/noled/
Here's the XDA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730692

lpasq said:
I am going to be using this trackball/LED notification substitute for a few days to see if it eats battery or FCs: http://www.devasque.com/noled/
Here's the XDA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=730692
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I've been using this for the last 24hrs without any issues whatsoever.
If there's any battery drain, it's very slight. When displaying black or dark colors, the SAMOLED display consumes next to no power. So when the notification is recieved, the only battery loss would be from the little icon/dot/whatevs moving around.

Do your capacitive buttons stay lit up while using this app? Mine seem to on while the dots are displayed?
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App

apogee82 said:
Do your capacitive buttons stay lit up while using this app? Mine seem to on while the dots are displayed?
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
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yes..capacitive buttons stay lit while notification is pending. but no capacitive buttons stay lit otherwise when noled is active/standby and no notifications are pending.
( i don't miss n1 trackball anymore )

battery drain is nonexistant imho. i didnt even know how much i needed a notification system until after i installed this, and its is perfect, and customizable enough for me.
with this installed on both my vibrant and my ns, the time since last unplugged were 22+ hrs and 31+ hours, respectively.
That is with noLED not sleeping and notification time outs of 3 hours. when there is a notification i have vibrate turned on for 3 short "dashes" every 1 minute until i dismiss.

Is there a way to keep the display always on?

I couldn't find anything on this and was wondering if its possible. I know it will shorten battery life a lot but I would still like it if the display could always be on.

I think the screen will burn in, same as on the note 3
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microdot said:
I couldn't find anything on this and was wondering if its possible. I know it will shorten battery life a lot but I would still like it if the display could always be on.
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use this
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nbondarchuk.android.keepscn

Sideloading the app above might work but I would not expected to say on more than a few hours due to battery life. It is not designed to stay on all the time. Change the screen time out to five minutes and set the wake up Motion and that will help.

highlordkram said:
Sideloading the app above might work but I would not expected to say on more than a few hours due to battery life. It is not designed to stay on all the time. Change the screen time out to five minutes and set the wake up Motion and that will help.
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It's a amoled screen, so black pixels are actually off, right ?
If i use a custom and ultra minimalist clock (2 pixels white on black font, one for hour, one for min) it will use a significant amount of battery if i keep it on ?

I know most of the drain comes from the screen but I wonder if the intensity is at 1 and you have a black background white text how long the gear would last.
At 4 my gear I charge every two days and even then there is a lot of life in the battery.

Baltyre said:
It's a amoled screen, so black pixels are actually off, right ?
If i use a custom and ultra minimalist clock (2 pixels white on black font, one for hour, one for min) it will use a significant amount of battery if i keep it on ?
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while black pixels are indeed off, i believe just waking up the gear itself will consume more battery, just because it stays 'ready' the whole time.

I thought it would be nice if the watch face was visible all the time but didn't think about burn in. It's probably for the best to leave it as is. Thanks for all the replies.

Always On Display with Edge Only

Hi,
I realized that with the Always on Display and with the setting for Edge only, I still see the stars in the background (using the default wallpaper). Doesn't this mean that even more battery is being used than with the standard full screen Always on Display? Isn't it supposed to only use certain LED's on the screen to conserve battery? If so, is it not possible to have the Edge setting on and save battery by disabling the background?

You could try not using one of the built in live wallpapers, that's where the stars come from.
Hope this helps.

Nixher said:
You could try not using one of the built in live wallpapers, that's where the stars come from.
Hope this helps.
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So does anyone actually use the always on display feature? Seems like it wastes alot of battery

Someone will help you

I don't personally, no point using the battery when your not using the phone, I just see if the led is flashing or not.

unholydoragon said:
So does anyone actually use the always on display feature? Seems like it wastes alot of battery
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About 3% to 5% in my experience.

You can turn on AOD feature, but when you put the phone on the desk for a long time without touching it, just put a small piece of paper (sticky paper) over the top of the screen (above the proximity sensor).
That way the AOD screen will be turned off in a couple of seconds.
When you need to check time or notifications, just lift up the sticky paper and the AOD will come back on.
You can save several % of battery using this way.

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You can turn on AOD feature, but when you put the phone on the desk for a long time without touching it, just put a small piece of paper (sticky paper) over the top of the screen (above the proximity sensor).
That way the AOD screen will be turned off in a couple of seconds.
When you need to check time or notifications, just lift up the sticky paper and the AOD will come back on.
You can save several % of battery using this way.
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That, or face down

Weird. Mines on with a custom picture ( I converted to grey scale ) and unplugged overnight i only lose about 3-5% total. I haven't tested without AOD but it can't be using more than 2-3% tops as I'm sure the system is using up most of the battery while I sleep.
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I have a custom AOD and battery life is fine. Its good to glance and see the time without having to pick it up and unlocking.
If your worried turn it off or flip the phone face down. With quick charge on the phone does it really matter?

Mi Mix Screen went out

Hi everyone!
I've been using split screen feature quite often, but when I placed it under sun today with this memory consuming feature, it turned slow and after 5 minutes, the screen went out. Still can hear the rings and vibrations but LED isn't coming back.
Can someone please help me how I can work this around, any shortcuts or hardware DIYs?

naveedzafar said:
Hi everyone!
I've been using split screen feature quite often, but when I placed it under sun today with this memory consuming feature, it turned slow and after 5 minutes, the screen went out. Still can hear the rings and vibrations but LED isn't coming back.
Can someone please help me how I can work this around, any shortcuts or hardware DIYs?
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Looking like it's shut it's self down to stop over heating, put it somewhere cold and hopefully it will come back to life, switch it off first. Did you mean LCD screen isn't coming on?

james1089 said:
Looking like it's shut it's self down to stop over heating, put it somewhere cold and hopefully it will come back to life, switch it off first. Did you mean LCD screen isn't coming on?
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It's working now. I turned on the flashlight (by taking guesses on position of the icon) to drain the battery faster, then when the battery died, I charged it and it worked.
Thanks!

naveedzafar said:
It's working now. I turned on the flashlight (by taking guesses on position of the icon) to drain the battery faster, then when the battery died, I charged it and it worked.
Thanks!
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But why drain the battery. You can switch the phone off pressing the power button 10 to 15 sec.

valerio.tosti said:
But why drain the battery. You can switch the phone off pressing the power button 10 to 15 sec.
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Just tried that. Didn't know that earlier... Lol.

naveedzafar said:
Just tried that. Didn't know that earlier... Lol.
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Hehe it works on every phone.

Brand New Pixel 5, battery seems awful

I upgraded to a Pixel 5 because my Pixel 2 XL was experiencing hardware issues and was going to die. Among them were battery degradation that was leaving me with maybe 3 hours screen on time from a full battery.
The Pixel 5 so far has been barely better. Additionally I went to bed last night with about 79 percent battery, I woke up around 48 percent. I have no idea what's going on but this is fresh out of the box, I got it Thursday like everyone else in the USA. Is this normal? Can anyone suggest how to figure out what's causing this drain?

Morpherios said:
I upgraded to a Pixel 5 because my Pixel 2 XL was experiencing hardware issues and was going to die. Among them were battery degradation that was leaving me with maybe 3 hours screen on time from a full battery.
The Pixel 5 so far has been barely better. Additionally I went to bed last night with about 79 percent battery, I woke up around 48 percent. I have no idea what's going on but this is fresh out of the box, I got it Thursday like everyone else in the USA. Is this normal? Can anyone suggest how to figure out what's causing this drain?
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I loose 4% overnight. Maybe an app is running in the background. Check WiFi for poor connection or background scanning.
Sent from my Pixel 5 using XDA Labs

You might wanna FDR and start fresh. Sounds like something might be hung up from the setup. All reports about battery have been stellar so far.

DAE1964 said:
I loose 4% overnight. Maybe an app is running in the background. Check WiFi for poor connection or background scanning.
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I did have scanning on, so I went and turned them off. I have a Verizon variant, so I can't root. Do you have any recommendations for how to track down a rogue app or service that might be draining the battery?

TokedUp said:
You might wanna FDR and start fresh. Sounds like something might be hung up from the setup. All reports about battery have been stellar so far.
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I did do the setup where you transfer data from your old device. I guess maybe I need to bite the bullet and do it fresh.
Do you know anything about the... I think the setting is called Always On Display or something like that. The setting where when the phone is locked and the screen is off, it always displays the time and notification icons. I had it on my Pixel 2 and it worked great, it's almost necessary for me at this point. I have it turned on also on the 5, but it seems...finicky? At times it shuts off, especially at night. I used to keep my Pixel2 on my nightstand (just laying flat, not on a stand or anything) and the time would be on all night so I could see it at night if I woke up. With the 5 it seems to shut off in the dark. Additionally periodically during the day it sometimes all of sudden jumps to really high brightness, then back down to dim, sometimes it turns off completely and I have to hit the power button or the fingerprint reader to unlock the phone. Even doing the tap to wake doesn't work. Actually that double tap to wake doesn't seem to work at all regardless.
Any info on any of those issues you know about? I've been searching around and I've found basic references to some stuff with that always on display but no direct threads or anything specific.

Morpherios said:
I did do the setup where you transfer data from your old device. I guess maybe I need to bite the bullet and do it fresh.
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Not too sure about AOD, I just went with defaults. But last night, my first with the P5, I unplugged at full charge and 7 + hours later it was at 100%. That's never happened but it was face down and on DND. Nonetheless, check out this thread, download the app, non root needs certain permissions, and let it run for a day or so. It should show you what you need to know.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809

Did you make sure to charge the phone to 100% before using it??? These lithium ion batteries need to be charged to the max if you want them to last. My pixel 5 wasn't even fully charged it was somewhere around 65% out of the box. I would leave it charging for a half hour or so once it hits 100% just to be sure.

I mean.. this is mine.

jobhax said:
I mean this mine.
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That looks similar to my first day of use. Excellent battery life so far.

jobhax said:
I mean.. this is mine.
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That's incredible. Next time include all 3 screens please. I could get 12 hours of on screen time all on wifi. Let's see you get that on 5G.
Real world battery is best.

I'm seeing great battery life like many others.
I started using AccuBattery Pro. How accurate is the estimated capacity given by the app? Anyone have any experience?
For me the app is estimating battery capacity to be 4,490mAh which is obviously way above the advertised capacity.

Coming from a worn out pixel 2xl this 5 is fabulous the battery is great. I accidentally left the flashlight on for an hour and it barely drained it. The battery is exceeding my expectations. Screen on time at 5 hours and I'm just at 49% with 10 hours remaining. I'm satisfied for sure

Also on Verizon, but no issues for me. Battery life has been amazing, I didn't charge last night (unintentional) and I was going until this afternoon, with mostly light usage. I've never experienced something like that before.

So in case anyone is interested in this, I actually have a hardware defect that was discovered by a user on reddit.
Link Here
The gist is that the proximity sensor is (i think) detecting that something is up against it all the time. This creates issues with things such as the phone screen not turning on when you pull the phone away from your ear when on a phone call, Issues with tap to wake and lift to wake not working, and Ambient display/always on display (whatever it's called now) constantly changing brightness and/or shutting the display off completely. Literally the phone could be sitting there on the table and all of a sudden the always on display goes to max brightness, then down to dim, then up, then shut off completely. I assume all this craziness is hitting the battery hard.
I am trying (although frustratingly) to get Verizon to exchange it for a new phone. My phone acts exactly like in that thread. There's a proximity sensor app that will detect when something is near it and change color. Mine is solid colored and won't change unless you press on the glass near the sensor. Just in case anyone else has this issue come up, there it is.

I'm at 5 hours of screen on time and 17 hours use. The battery is exceptional and I can dedicate more time to work online because of it.

It sounds like you have ported a troublesome app over from your old phone to be honest. I think a factory reset would fix it.

pemz82 said:
I'm seeing great battery life like many others.
I started using AccuBattery Pro. How accurate is the estimated capacity given by the app? Anyone have any experience?
For me the app is estimating battery capacity to be 4,490mAh which is obviously way above the advertised capacity.
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Mine says 3,900mAh and hasn't changed for two weeks, which irritates me. Battery life is... okay.

Curious
I'm losing apprx. 6-10% while I sleep. seems a little excessive compared to other testimonies. I have to usaul social media apps, messeging apps no gaming, no AOD.
Any insight is appreciated.
I aslo did the FR with copying from older phone as suggested in the thread.

Morpherios said:
So in case anyone is interested in this, I actually have a hardware defect that was discovered by a user on reddit.
Link Here
The gist is that the proximity sensor is (i think) detecting that something is up against it all the time. This creates issues with things such as the phone screen not turning on when you pull the phone away from your ear when on a phone call, Issues with tap to wake and lift to wake not working, and Ambient display/always on display (whatever it's called now) constantly changing brightness and/or shutting the display off completely. Literally the phone could be sitting there on the table and all of a sudden the always on display goes to max brightness, then down to dim, then up, then shut off completely. I assume all this craziness is hitting the battery hard.
I am trying (although frustratingly) to get Verizon to exchange it for a new phone. My phone acts exactly like in that thread. There's a proximity sensor app that will detect when something is near it and change color. Mine is solid colored and won't change unless you press on the glass near the sensor. Just in case anyone else has this issue come up, there it is.
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I have most of the issues that you describe and yet my battery life amazing. Still v frustrating though.

czm said:
I have most of the issues that you describe and yet my battery life amazing. Still v frustrating though.
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I just finally got my replacement last night from Verizon. Too early to tell if it fixed my battery issues because I had to set everything up and such. But If you have those issues, I would get a replacement. That's a faulty phone.