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[Q] 4.3 Update Questions

Hi all,
I'm currently on 1.31.651.2 (Android 4.1.2) and just started getting the notifications to update to 3.04.651.2 (Android 4.3). I'm currently Unlocked but with S-On, with TWRP installed. The Stock ROM is rooted for my convenience.
What is the best course of action to get to 4.3? I know I can't OTA without putting Stock Recovery on and I'd like to avoid doing that right now.
From what I'm reading and seeing there is a Rooted 4.3 Odex/DeOdex ROM, but I'm wary from people saying it hasn't worked 100% right. I also am reading that I should do S-Off before doing it (for the radios?).
So what should I do? I'd really like to get onto 4.3 and I'm not certain of the upgrade path at this point. Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated!

MASantangelo said:
Hi all,
I'm currently on 1.31.651.2 (Android 4.1.2) and just started getting the notifications to update to 3.04.651.2 (Android 4.3). I'm currently Unlocked but with S-On, with TWRP installed. The Stock ROM is rooted for my convenience.
What is the best course of action to get to 4.3? I know I can't OTA without putting Stock Recovery on and I'd like to avoid doing that right now.
From what I'm reading and seeing there is a Rooted 4.3 Odex/DeOdex ROM, but I'm wary from people saying it hasn't worked 100% right. I also am reading that I should do S-Off before doing it (for the radios?).
So what should I do? I'd really like to get onto 4.3 and I'm not certain of the upgrade path at this point. Any help or advice will be greatly appreciated!
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You don't necessarily need to update your firmware, nor your radio to update to 4.3
Right now there are 3 android 4.3 ROMs which are buggless.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301672
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470693
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473941
Flashing firmware and radio is OPTIONAL, your phone will work fine even without them
IF you want you can flash only the radio(no need s-off) http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23159073880933335
IF you want to flash the firmware you need to be s-off first. The new firmware contains a new touch driver, so before flashing it you'll need to update TWRP to the latest (2.6.3.0) if you haven't already. The firmware can be found here http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23159073880933456
Note if you update your firmware touch won't work if you install a 4.1.2 ROM, it works only on 4.3 ROMs

elvisypi said:
You don't necessarily need to update your firmware, nor your radio to update to 4.3
Right now there are 3 android 4.3 ROMs which are buggless.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301672
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2470693
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473941
Flashing firmware and radio is OPTIONAL, your phone will work fine even without them
IF you want you can flash only the radio(no need s-off) http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23159073880933335
IF you want to flash the firmware you need to be s-off first. The new firmware contains a new touch driver, so before flashing it you'll need to update TWRP to the latest (2.6.3.0) if you haven't already. The firmware can be found here http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23159073880933456
Note if you update your firmware touch won't work if you install a 4.1.2 ROM, it works only on 4.3 ROMs
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Thanks for the clarification. I wasn't sure what the firmware files were for. I was looking at the stuff in the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467607
I really want to keep a stock rom, and that's stock + root. Since I think I want to flash the firmware file (new drivers yay!) I'll need to do S-Off first. That's exactly the info I needed. I already have TWRP 2.6.3.0 (that's the one part I saw that I could understand and I always like to run the latest anyways).
Really appreciated. Thanked.

Sorry to piggy back, but how can we make sure we are on the new firmware or not? I flashed it but I remember seeing an error in the CMD window and want to make sure it went through ok.

Vic_Vinegar said:
Sorry to piggy back, but how can we make sure we are on the new firmware or not? I flashed it but I remember seeing an error in the CMD window and want to make sure it went through ok.
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PRI 4.38_003
Baseband 1.00.20.0913_3

bigdaddy619 said:
PRI 4.38_003
Baseband 1.00.20.0913_3
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Thanks man. Looks like it didnt work. Going to try it again, flashing the firmware also has the updated radios correct? Or do I need to do both?

bigdaddy619 said:
PRI 4.38_003
Baseband 1.00.20.0913_3
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Hmmm I've got that baseband but my pri is 3.17_003
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For those interested, here's the path I took in full:
1) Installed TWRP 2.3.6 while on old (rooted) stock.
2) Obtained S-Off using revone including getting rid of the tampered flag. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314582 )
3) Installed Full firmware from O.M.J. ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2467607 )
4) Installed Rooted Stock from same URL as Step 3.
5) Reinstalled TWRP 2.3.6 from the TWRP website using fastboot commands.
6) Flashed SuperSU 1.65 from the kit ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2244060 )
I now have 4.3 rooted Stock with the latest firmware.
Thanks to all who commented, but especially elvisypi. I was reading through the O.M.J. thread and saw you answered a lot of my questions in there. My bad for not reading before going and posting. Thanks regardless.

System update break root?!

Ok was just curious if im updating from 4.3 to 4.4 and have phone s-off'd and rooted do i need to return to stock to take the update?! Will root and s-off survive the update?! thanks

Why would you take the OTA if you are s-off?

BD619 said:
Why would you take the OTA if you are s-off?
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Can you not s-off after updating? I just bought the phone and coming from a Galaxy S4 im a little lost on HTC One... Or should i just flash the firmware from the bad boyz rom thread through twrp?

Menardo said:
Can you not s-off after updating? I just bought the phone and coming from a Galaxy S4 im a little lost on HTC One... Or should i just flash the firmware from the bad boyz rom thread through twrp?
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You might be able to s-off with firewater...but taking the OTA you will not loose s-off. I would just flash the firmware and a sense 4.4.2 rom if you flash the Full firmware.
If you flash the modified firmware you can flash any rom.

BD619 said:
You might be able to s-off with firewater...but taking the OTA you will not loose s-off. I would just flash the firmware and a sense 4.4.2 rom if you flash the Full firmware.
If you flash the modified firmware you can flash any rom.
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Alright thanks a million... Just making sure if i flash the FULL firmware only 4.4.2 roms can be flashed?

Menardo said:
Alright thanks a million... Just making sure if i flash the FULL firmware only 4.4.2 roms can be flashed?
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As far as I know only 4.4.2 sense roms can be flashed.
Others should work fine if the kernel was updated, as the 4.4.2 OTA came with a new kernel.

BD619 said:
As far as I know only 4.4.2 sense roms can be flashed.
Others should work fine if the kernel was updated, as the 4.4.2 OTA came with a new kernel.
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Appreciate it boss!!! :good: :good: :good:

Hboot and Firmware

If since I've got my phone I am on custom rom. There's no way to get an update on a firmware or Hboot other than being on a stock ROM and received OTA?

for OTA you must have stock rom, recovery, kernel e no root but you can flash hboot and firmware manually via fastboot if S-OFF
p.s. sorry for my english

nisby said:
for OTA you must have stock rom, recovery, kernel e no root but you can flash hboot and firmware manually via fastboot if S-OFF
p.s. sorry for my english
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But by flashing custom rom, I don't update firmware?

no custom roms are based on a version of firmware but don't update your firmware on install. only official HTC OTA update your firmware,hboot,radio,recovery..... but if you are S-OFF you can flash it via fastboot

Gufsl1 said:
But by flashing custom rom, I don't update firmware?
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The ROM and the firmware are seperate.
The firmware usually contains hboot.
Custom ROMs do not include firmware.
The OTA includes firmware as well as a ROM patch and must be flashed together with ROM and Recovery both stock.
You can update the firmware manually.
If you want to flash a modified firmware (e.g., recovery & kernel removed), or a firmware for a different CID/MID/Part number you need S-Off.

BenPope said:
The ROM and the firmware are seperate.
The firmware usually contains hboot.
Custom ROMs do not include firmware.
The OTA includes firmware as well as a ROM patch and must be flashed together with ROM and Recovery both stock.
You can update the firmware manually.
If you want to flash a modified firmware (e.g., recovery & kernel removed), or a firmware for a different CID/MID/Part number you need S-Off.
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Restoring from NAndroid backup is something reliable?

Gufsl1 said:
Restoring from NAndroid backup is something reliable?
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I've never had a problem.

Gufsl1 said:
Restoring from NAndroid backup is something reliable?
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restoring a nandroid will not update your firmware or hboot
theirs 2 ways to update firmware the way HTC does it is with a RUU or OTA update
But since we have s-off you can simply get s-off and flash any firmware you like
look here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506

clsA said:
restoring a nandroid will not update your firmware or hboot
theirs 2 ways to update firmware the way HTC does it is with a RUU or OTA update
But since we have s-off you can simply get s-off and flash any firmware you like
look here >> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2365506
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It did yes... It was a nandroid backup from stock Rogers ... so I just put the stock recovery and everything was working and updating!

What's the Minimum I need to accept OTA Firmware update?

I'm currently S-OFF, Stock Firmware (as shipped, except for hboot, recovery).
And I'm running BadBoys 1.1
I don't want to flash "Modified Firmware" (this time).
What do I need to do let the OTA update come in normally?
I assume I need to flash Stockish ROM (with or without root).
Do I need to relock?
I know there is unmodified firmware as well. I might go that route too.
But I want the most "Official" way to let the firmware be updated. I want to hold off on Harman Firmware just yet.
If a Stock RUU (that included OTA firmware) existed, I'd definitely just use that. I know about the Harman RUU.

I've never personally taken an OTA.
I think all you need is a stock rom and stock recovery.
Not sure if you need to re-lock being s-off.
Btw the unmodified firmware is pulled from the OTA zip.

BD619 said:
I've never personally taken an OTA.
I think all you need is a stock rom and stock recovery.
Not sure if you need to re-lock being s-off.
Btw the unmodified firmware is pulled from the OTA zip.
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Yeah, I know. I ended up doing just that. Being crazy anal for nothing.

I learned my lesson on my old EVO 4G about accepting OTA's.
I lost root for a while until a new method opened up.
Patience is everything.

Since you're S-off you can just install the stock Android recovery, then accept the OTA. You'll retain S-off but lose root. You can then root again by installing a custom recovery and flashing the SU binary in recovery. Honestly, though, Captain Throwback's firmware will get you where you want to be without the hassle of doing everything I listed above.
Sent from my HTC device

Yes, and no...for Sense enhancements, you get to check them out first without waiting for a stock rooted rom or a custom rom running the same base. Matter of preference, I guess.

AarSyl said:
Yes, and no...for Sense enhancements, you get to check them out first without waiting for a stock rooted rom or a custom rom running the same base. Matter of preference, I guess.
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Right. I personally prefer to wait for a stock rooted ROM based off the latest update, and separately install the corresponding firmware package.
Sent from my HTC device

Magnum_Enforcer said:
Right. I personally prefer to wait for a stock rooted ROM based off the latest update, and separately install the corresponding firmware package.
Sent from my HTC device
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Meh...to each his own. It depends on what the update contains for me. For example, I had no interest in waiting for a stock rooted Sense 5.0 rom when it was finally released for the LTE.
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[Q] Firmware update without S-OFF by switching back to StockRom and Update?

Hi everybody.
my HTC one has Viper 5.8 running with S-ON and i like it that way.
I never updated the Firmware since i moved from the 4.2.2 stock rom. (i have nandroid backup of the stock rom)
I am a bit scared doing S-OFF "just" to update firmware, hboot and radio, I know it should be easy to do, but i just don't want to.
So i thought that maybe i can flash back to the stock rom, then make the offical HTC update to 4.3 sense 6 (should also flash newest firmware right?) and then unlock the bootloader again, flash twrp and custom rom again.
Would that work? Is there something i have to pay attention to?
thx for any help!!!!

sancho777 said:
Hi everybody.
my HTC one has Viper 5.8 running with S-ON and i like it that way.
I never updated the Firmware since i moved from the 4.2.2 stock rom. (i have nandroid backup of the stock rom)
I am a bit scared doing S-OFF "just" to update firmware, hboot and radio, I know it should be easy to do, but i just don't want to.
So i thought that maybe i can flash back to the stock rom, then make the offical HTC update to 4.3 sense 6 (should also flash newest firmware right?) and then unlock the bootloader again, flash twrp and custom rom again.
Would that work? Is there something i have to pay attention to?
thx for any help!!!!
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Since you don't want S-Off, that is your best option. I would follow closely @Mike1986 [GUIDE] Complete Flashing Guide | Rooting | Going Back To Stock it is for those who are S-On.

Thanks, I will follow the guide.
But I have one more question:
Can I do the official HTC update from the htc stock rom while I still have custom recovery and bootloader unlocked?
Can't find any any info if there is any risk involved not changing back first to stock recovery and bootloader relocked before doing the update.
I guess recovery will be overwritten by the official update?!?

You need stock recovery and locked bootloader to take updates

SaHiLzZ said:
You need stock recovery and locked bootloader to take updates
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you don't need a locked bootloader to get an official ota update,however,you do need to flash a stock recovery !!.
I went through the ota update method to update my firmware as for some reason my htc one wouldn't s-off and I felt that it wasn't running as it should on custom roms with the old firmware.
I started off with a flashable zip -4.06.1540.2,developer edition then ota updates,always doing a nand backup of rom.
always pull the stock recovery image from the ota before updating...
i'm now running 5.11.1540.9 firmware and all custom roms are running good...
if you google 4.06.1540.2 dev edition flashable zip you should find it,if not,i can upload it too somewhere for you...
an official htc ota update changes your firmware and installs a stock recovery..
its a bit long winded this way,but,it was the only way for me !!

markb63 said:
I started off with a flashable zip -4.06.1540.2,developer edition then ota updates,always doing a nand backup of rom.
always pull the stock recovery image from the ota before updating...
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First thank you for sharing your experience.
When you say "zip -4.06.1540.2,developer edition" then you mean the rom, correct?
Why would you pull the stock recovery from the OTA before updating? What would be the consequence of leaving it in?
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so i would download the odexed stock rom from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48111304
and afterwards flash the according recovery.img, correct?
i guess it is no problem that my phone (and their for the bootloader) was not a developer edition

sancho777 said:
First thank you for sharing your experience.
When you say "zip -4.06.1540.2,developer edition" then you mean the rom, correct?
Why would you pull the stock recovery from the OTA before updating? What would be the consequence of leaving it in?
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yeah,it's a full flashable rom,that can be installed by custom recovery,when I say pull the stock recovery,i mean copy it to a folder on your pc,always best to have the matching recovery for your stock rom.