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Howdy folks,
Is there a way to make WiFi calls with the AT&T note 3?
DiscipleDOC said:
Howdy folks,
Is there a way to make WiFi calls with the AT&T note 3?
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That would be called Skype....
Solarenemy68 said:
That would be called Skype....
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There is another way as well. TMo allows for calls via WiFi, and I was just wondering whether or not it was just specific to TMo, or if it was something we could do through AT&T...
I know what you are talking about and no At&t does not provide this service like tmobile does. I forgot where I read it but the article stated that by offering WiFi calling, Tmobile is basically conceeding that their network is not the best and it has flaws in coverage. AT&T does not want to admit that flaw in their coverage. On the other hand I wish At&t had this option as seamless as Tmobile does for buildings that have spotty At&t coverage.
Edit: At&t is starting to offer this feature for some business phones, might only be iPhone. I believe it cost extra too, but not currently on the note 3.
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i think the only other way is to use apps like Viber or Line. But the other person has to have the app too which might not be a big deal to some but I use it all the time and love both apps.
Why not use Google voice? There is an app that will use wifi or cellular data to connect via your gv number.
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I got my N6 (CW 46Gb) from Moto last Friday. I was amazed and exciting at the beginning. However, now I started noticing things that I am not sure if all Nexuses are like that or just mine. FYI, N6 rooted and unlocked bootloader on stock.
1. WiFi will not connect very quick. It will keep trying with "Authentication Problem" couple of times until it connects. It will take a while until it connects.
2. I can't use data mobile while I am on a phone call. I am with Verizon and I do have LTE in my area. I know for fact that I can do that because I used to do it my Galaxy Nexus and S4. (screenshot attached from N6)
3. call sound: the other end sound like "muffle" or "hollow" I don't know how to describe it, but it is not normal and not pure.
Any feedback or inputs would be helpful.
Thanks,
1. i personally dont have an issue
2. first off, you cant use both data and phone calls on verizon, its a cdma carrier. now the possibility exists to use data and voice on verizon, with lte, and only if they rolled out Volte into your area. if not, you can not have both voice and data on verizon.
3. sounds perfect here, and especially awesome when im connected via tmobiles hd calling.
simms22 said:
1. i personally dont have an issue
2. first off, you cant use both data and phone calls on verizon, its a cdma carrier. now the possibility exists to use data and voice on verizon, with lte, and only if they rolled out Volte into your area. if not, you can not have both voice and data on verizon.
3. sounds perfect here, and especially awesome when im connected via tmobiles hd calling.
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Thanks for your reply.
1. OK, mine might be defective unit. I will wait see other users what they say about it.
2. Yes I can use both with LTE device only! I am sure because as I said I used to do it on my previous Nexus on Verizon and Galaxy S4.
3. I try it for several days to make sure before I call it in.
bassil2022 said:
Thanks for your reply.
1. OK, mine might be defective unit. I will wait see other users what they say about it.
2. Yes I can use both with LTE device only! I am sure because as I said I used to do it on my previous Nexus on Verizon and Galaxy S4.
3. I try it for several days to make sure before I call it in.
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only if verizon rolled out volte in your area. and they just started at the end of this summer. without volte, its impossible to have voice and data on lte, for any network. if using a lte phone on tmobile or att(gsm networks), when you make a phone call when on lte, the signal drops to hspa or 3g automatically. as voice calls cant go through lte when not on volte. there is one exception, if you are making an internet phonecall(that doesnt need a phone line).
simms22 said:
only if verizon rolled out volte in your area. and they just started at the end of this summer. without volte, its impossible to have voice and data on lte, for any network. if using a lte phone on tmobile or att(gsm networks), when you make a phone call when on lte, the signal drops to hspa or 3g automatically. as voice calls cant go through lte when not on volte. there is one exception, if you are making an internet phonecall(that doesnt need a phone line).
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Man, look at pic attached. Using my wife's Galaxy S4 on Verizon proving that we can do it on LTE networks. I want to do it with my N6. I should be doing it like any LTE phone. I have an old 3G phone that doesn't do it.
There are only some phones that can use voice and data on Verizon without volte and only because those phones have 2 radios, I can use voice and data on my note 4 but my wife cannot use it on her turbo. The nexus cannot use voice and data without volte.
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molson8045 said:
There are only some phones that can use voice and data on Verizon without volte and only because those phones have 2 radios, I can use voice and data on my note 4 but my wife cannot use it on her turbo. The nexus cannot use voice and data without volte.
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yours makes more since. Now, have you tried N6 on Verizon LTE and didn't work like Turbo?
Edit: never mind, from Reddit "This was known. Droid Life's test showed no data while on call. There will be an update that will enable VoLTE on carriers that support it, when that goes out, LTE will work while on call on supported towers."
So, it is a matter of time.
Mine has the Authentication problem since updating to 5.0.1
I have to reenter my password
HipKat said:
Mine has the Authentication problem since updating to 5.0.1
I have to reenter my password
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I read somewhere here 5.0.1 fixes that! I was going to manually update mine to 5.0.1
simms22 said:
1. i personally dont have an issue
2. first off, you cant use both data and phone calls on verizon, its a cdma carrier. now the possibility exists to use data and voice on verizon, with lte, and only if they rolled out Volte into your area. if not, you can not have both voice and data on verizon.
3. sounds perfect here, and especially awesome when im connected via tmobiles hd calling.
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You can use data and voice on Verizon. I've done it many times.
bassil2022 said:
I read somewhere here 5.0.1 fixes that! I was going to manually update mine to 5.0.1
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Just the opposite for me. 5.0.1 seems to have caused it, plus connecting to data at boot up seems to take a lot longer
OK so, I don't understand. From Motorola's page:
Americas Model (XT1103)
GSM/GPRS/EDGE (850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz)
CDMA (800, 1900, secondary 800 MHz)
WCDMA (1, 2, 4, 5, 8)
LTE (2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 13, 17, 25, 26, 29, 41)
CA DL (B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-29, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B17, B4-B29)
It says "secondary 800MHz". I know I have the 1103 model, I have the box. Why on earth can the device not use the "secondary 800MHz" to make the call??
Usually the carriers roll out an update to your phone which will allow you to use data while calling. At least that is my impression of big red. I haven't had Verizon in a while so I don't remember exactly but I think it has to do with the volte update that should be pushed out to the N6 for carries that support that and WiFi calling.
HipKat said:
Just the opposite for me. 5.0.1 seems to have caused it, plus connecting to data at boot up seems to take a lot longer
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WiFi issue fixed. I talked custom recovery and Resurrection Remix Lollipop Rom. I loved that rom! Extra optional customizations that makes my N6 fly and special ?
I need to wait for the update to enable using voice and data at same time.
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My gnex does voice and data simultaneously. CDMA for voice and LTE for data.
The Nexus 6 does NOT do simultaneous voice and data on Verizon, yet.
The phone isn't even officially supported by Verizon. Give it some time.
anaphora68 said:
The Nexus 6 does NOT do simultaneous voice and data on Verizon, yet.
The phone isn't even officially supported by Verizon. Give it some time.
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Agree
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Larzzzz82 said:
My gnex does voice and data simultaneously. CDMA for voice and LTE for data.
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As mentioned earlier in this thread, the Galaxy Nexus has two radios. Two radios = two connections.
I don't understand how this is still a question. Lol. It has been stated in this forum that the Nexus 6 is still handicapped on Verizon until Verizon rolls out the VoLTE update for it. Until then, the one radio in the Nexus 6 will only use voice OR data at one time, not both. Older phones on Verizon usually always had two radios for simultaneous voice and data. Newer phones will now usually only have one radio, which I personally think is kind of silly.
Can't say whether the muffled and hollow call quality is a bad unit though. Mine sounds clear.
@ataris_kid... I am well aware that the gnex has 2 radios. My comment was made to drive the point home to someone posting in this thread that it wasn't possible; when in fact it is. Just not with the N6 at this point in time. I just hope that volte on vzw doesn't go the way of the pogo pins on this toro gnex with the N6.
I have a unlocked s10+ with a ATT sim card, when I try to make a call, the HTE network symbol changes to a lower speed and eventually H (edge), however the call does go through?
Just curious if anyone else was seeing this ?
Thanks in advance!
Its normal if you have VoLTE disabled or if it isn't available. You can check in settings > connections > mobile networks and check if you have VoLTE enabled.
Don't see it under those options, thanks for the reply !
zerokewl22 said:
Don't see it under those options, thanks for the reply !
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Maybe your carrier doesn't support VoLTE yet, are u from the US?
This is how it looks on my phone.
hektsepulveda said:
Maybe your carrier doesn't support VoLTE yet, are u from the US?
This is how it looks on my phone.
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Yes I am in the US, carrier does support VoLTE, however I have an unlocked device ? maybe that might be why I cant see it ?
zerokewl22 said:
Yes I am in the US, carrier does support VoLTE, however I have an unlocked device ? maybe that might be why I cant see it ?
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Ask your provider to re-provision VoLTE setting to your SIM. Also sometimes you may have to wait for an update for he settings to get applied. Happened to me on my S7. Carrier had activated VoLTE but phone s/w didn't support it. After an update, everything worked.
data is limited to H or 3G (if you are lucky) during calls
thats normal as the phone is using bandwidth for voice calls and cannot offer same data speeds
4G is all about data transfers so you would never really make a call over 4G it will always be over H
ATT doesn't allow VoLTE on the unlocked version. You will need to flash the carrier rom to enable it.
Appreciate everyone's feedback, I spoke to my carrier, and they (Level 2 Tech.) claimed that they (ATT) and Samsung were working on a device performance update, but were not sure of the release time, I will see if they can address this issue, else will need to reflash with carrier rom
tim2london said:
data is limited to H or 3G (if you are lucky) during calls
thats normal as the phone is using bandwidth for voice calls and cannot offer same data speeds
4G is all about data transfers so you would never really make a call over 4G it will always be over H
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Wrong
lazard said:
ATT doesn't allow VoLTE on the unlocked version. You will need to flash the carrier rom to enable it.
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I recently switched to ATT and I have VoLTE on my S10e unlocked exynos. Had it on T-mobile too. I have a VoLTE switch under Connections>Mobile Networks. Snapdragon maybe different, but it definitely works on a stock unlocked device.
Chronzy said:
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I recently switched to ATT and I have VoLTE on my S10e unlocked exynos. Had it on T-mobile too. I have a VoLTE switch under Connections>Mobile Networks. Snapdragon maybe different, but it definitely works on a stock unlocked device.
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Maybe read and try to understand before jumping
YOU CANNOT HAVE 4G connectiond during voice calls
tim2london said:
Maybe read and try to understand before jumping
YOU CANNOT HAVE 4G connectiond during voice calls
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I have LTE during voice calls. Your phone/carrier may not give you this option, but others have it.
At&T doesn't fully support unlocked phone learned that the hard way when i bought my 1st unlock note 8. Internet was slow same signal your getting H+ no wifi calling it was a mess returned it and bought an At&t note.
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I recently switched to ATT and I have VoLTE on my S10e unlocked exynos. Had it on T-mobile too. I have a VoLTE switch under Connections>Mobile Networks. Snapdragon maybe different, but it definitely works on a stock unlocked device.
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Did you get your s10e exynos from that ebay deal?
Chronzy said:
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I recently switched to ATT and I have VoLTE on my S10e unlocked exynos. Had it on T-mobile too. I have a VoLTE switch under Connections>Mobile Networks. Snapdragon maybe different, but it definitely works on a stock unlocked device.
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Curious, what made you go for a Exynos phone? I thought they were inferior to the SD versions and LTE bands missing for the USA
skyrocketeer said:
Did you get your s10e exynos from that ebay deal?
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I got it from eBay yes. Not sure exactly which deal you're talking about.
Micky 22 said:
Curious, what made you go for a Exynos phone? I thought they were inferior to the SD versions and LTE bands missing for the USA
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Future custom roms, root. The exynos version isn't missing any LTE bands that I know of. I get great coverage and speed. I don't know how they are inferior to SD. Performance and battery life are good.
Unlocked U1 devices will not get VoLTE or VoWifi with AT&T. Some have had luck flashing the AT&T firmware and CSC on prior generations, but there wasn't a guaranteed way to make this work.
If you need these features, youre best off buying the AT&T branded version, or buying an international phone that enables VoLTE without requiring carrier validation. (Which will likely work)
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Maybe read and try to understand before jumping
YOU CANNOT HAVE 4G connectiond during voice calls
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If your provider supports VoLTE, then you can as voice is transmitted as VOIP call via LTE network. You should see VoLTE icon next to 4G icon if your provider supports it and is provisioned to your SIM card.
I have been on T-Mobile for past 2 years and have never used VoLTE mad Wifi calling. I always switch them off on any new phone... Just wanted to see why it is important for so many and if I am missing anything by switching them off...
ram4ufriends said:
I have been on T-Mobile for past 2 years and have never used VoLTE mad Wifi calling. I always switch them off on any new phone... Just wanted to see why it is important for so many and if I am missing anything by switching them off...
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No VoWifi is really a deal breaker for some people that travel international or go to areas where the cell signal is bad "inside apartments" or non existent but they have access to WiFi.
docfong said:
No VoWifi is really a deal breaker for some people that travel international or go to areas where the cell signal is bad "inside apartments" or non existent but they have access to WiFi.
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Just curious..Does Wifi calling allow incoming calls as well on Wifi when there is no cell signal? Or just outgoing calls?
ram4ufriends said:
Just curious..Does Wifi calling allow incoming calls as well on Wifi when there is no cell signal? Or just outgoing calls?
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It allows everything in and out as well as text and MMS just like you have a full cell signal even though you might be in China in airplane mode with only wifi active. Welcome to 2019!
docfong said:
It allows everything in and out as well as text and MMS just like you have a full cell signal even though you might be in China in airplane mode with only wifi active. Welcome to 2019!
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That's awesome.. didn't know that.. I am planning to buy the India version and use it on T-Mobile.. not sure if it will have those 2 features... It at least has VoLTE for Indian carriers, so I assume it should work on T-Mobile also....
ram4ufriends said:
That's awesome.. didn't know that.. I am planning to buy the India version and use it on T-Mobile.. not sure if it will have those 2 features... It at least has VoLTE for Indian carriers, so I assume it should work on T-Mobile also....
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At this point I wouldn't buy anything till others try it first. There is no guarantee that an India version will do VoLTE or VoWiFi on a USA carrier.
ram4ufriends said:
That's awesome.. didn't know that.. I am planning to buy the India version and use it on T-Mobile.. not sure if it will have those 2 features... It at least has VoLTE for Indian carriers, so I assume it should work on T-Mobile also....
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I could be wrong. But I do believe that the VoLTE ability is carrier specif. Phone manufacturers have to be on the approval list and be able to use the correct bands. In the United States, I also believe that the manufacturers have to pay to be put on that list. I believe it was another thread in this forum that stated something along the lines of 250k (but don't quote me). EU and Asia's markets are handled differently.
(LINK TO OTHER THREAD: https://forum.xda-developers.com/rog-phone-2/help/wifi-calling-rog-2-t3966575/page3) <--Carries and answers some of these questions.
docfong said:
It allows everything in and out as well as text and MMS just like you have a full cell signal even though you might be in China in airplane mode with only wifi active. Welcome to 2019!
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My office here and in Philly have serious T-Mobile signal issues, but since it’s blanketed with WiFi, not an issue. No VoWifi makes the device useless as a phone in those places, where my iPhone XS and Razer Phone 2 work fine.
Wanted to ask if anyone with a USA model rog 2 tried att Sim card and did it work with att? We already know t-mobile doesn't list those options. This way we can all go search for phones that will suit our needs.
My US model will be delivered either Saturday or Monday and I use AT&T. Will post my results then.
I just talked to support again, and they said no VoLTE or VoWifi on Tmobile, Verizon, or AT&T, or any American carrier. They have no plans to enable it. The suggestion was that I leave them a complaint, so I did so via their form on Asus.com as well as Facebook.
The problem is AT&T is shutting down their 3G service this year so if VoLTE isn't enabled we can't make voice calls.
TawkinTrash said:
The problem is AT&T is shutting down their 3G service this year so if VoLTE isn't enabled we can't make voice calls.
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As is TMobile, from what I understand. You should be able to make calls, but it will default to EDGE, IIRC.
Cellendril said:
As is TMobile, from what I understand. You should be able to make calls, but it will default to EDGE, IIRC.
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Ok I just tried to confirm and got info they're not shutting down 3G just yet. We still have a few more years.
I guess that's good we'll still have calls but isn't good because there's no reason for VoLTE.
Thanks to ryououki for the offer, we will await your testing and we will be here if u need any help
I seriously don't understand a U.S model, yet no volte? That's just dumb. Wtf?
I can tell you right now it wont work, Its a sick phone but I'm sending it back because of this. Asus screwed up with no VoLTE, no VoWiFi, and only a 1080p screen IMO. Maybe next time they will get it right. I hope the OnePlus 7T and the 7T Pro has it... Crazy!
Just read this for T-Mobile:
Due to lack of VoLTE support you won't be able to place and receive calls including 911 calls in some buildings and some outdoor areas where 2G GSM and 3G HSPA+ signal (marketed by T-Mobile as "4G") is too weak or non-existent while LTE band 12 is available
Great info so far , just need someone to try it with att sim for confirmation.
So far we know,
Tmobile no go on volte or wifi call
Verizon works on data only no calls or txt just like rog one. Cdmaless option unclear at this moment .
Att no test yet
I have a US model on AT&T and can't get VoLTE yet.
I talked to AT&T support and they said there's no compatibility yet.
The IMEI doesn't come up in their system as a known device.
I have at&t and a USA version of the phone, I can confirm as well that the phone drops to 3g when making voice calls.
This is really really bad because at&t plans to shut down their 3g in 2021, that means no voice calls after that. Asus USA knowingly selling a $900 phone that cant make a call in 2 years is borderline fraudulent.
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I have at&t and a USA version of the phone, I can confirm as well that the phone drops to 3g when making voice calls.
This is really really bad because at&t plans to shut down their 3g in 2021, that means no voice calls after that. Asus USA knowingly selling a $900 phone that cant make a call in 2 years is borderline fraudulent.
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I have to agree. Its just dumb.
Someone needs to see if something like this can work.....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/how-to/wifi-calling-volte-mi-9-t3917887
There has to be options somewhere we can atleast get VOLTE working. Yes root will be mandatory, but i am ok with that. I might order one from amazon. Whats the return policy for phones on amazon? Anyone know?
I believe there were reports that VoLTE was working on Tencent models?
We really need to look into making a custom rom for our phones for the US carriers.
Did you try dialer codes *#*#VOWIFI#*#* and *#*#VOLTE#*#*
How ridiculous. This is how you ruin a near perfect phone.
stealthj said:
I believe there were reports that VoLTE was working on Tencent models?
We really need to look into making a custom rom for our phones for the US carriers.
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I did more research, it seems to be more on the AT&T side than on the Asus side of things. Barring a few well-know phones like the Pixel 3, most BYOD Android devices on AT&T in general don't get VoLTE, including unlocked versions of Samsung Galaxy devices that are not purchased through AT&T. It looks like AT&T does not enable VoLTE for device models with IMEIs that it does not recognize (i.e. doesn't have AT&T certified ROMs), because they are afraid of getting fined by FCC for non-E911 compliance which requires the carrier to certify E911 support on all handset/firmware when on VoLTE. My guess the Tencent models with VoLTE working are somehow whitelisted by AT&T ad-hoc or they are working on Non-U.S. carriers. So it is more of an AT&T problem than an Asus/ROM issue. (though there may be ROM hacks to ask the handset to force VoLTE even if AT&T doesn't advertise the capability during protocol handshake).
Since this is a much bigger issue than just the ROG II phone, hopefully they have a plan to white list all BYOD Android devices for VoLTE when they sunset 3G. Otherwise AT&T would stand to lose a good chunk of revenue from those who migrate over from other carriers with BYOD phones, say a Galaxy phone with a T-Mobile ROM. You simply can't even offer a BYOD plan if you don't have voice call working for most of the BYOD Android devices.
suzook said:
I have to agree. Its just dumb.
Someone needs to see if something like this can work.....
https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/how-to/wifi-calling-volte-mi-9-t3917887
There has to be options somewhere we can atleast get VOLTE working. Yes root will be mandatory, but i am ok with that. I might order one from amazon. Whats the return policy for phones on amazon? Anyone know?
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I'm pretty sure their return policy for phones is the same as all other goods. I bought and returned the original ROG phone last year through Amazon, considering doing the same with ROG II unless there's a breakthrough on providers and features with custom ROMS/etc.
Yea that's pretty dirty to whitelist the Tencent version but not the US model.