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Here comes THAT thread: Jelly Bean?

Alright, everyone.
My Atrix 2 just died on me. Well, didn't die, the screen cracked open, long story.
Basically, I need a new phone.
However, because the Atrix 2 STILL hasn't gotten ICS, I swore to never return to Motorola. Yeah, it's not 100% their fault that it's taking them so long, but seriously? It's become really annoying.
So I promised to ONLY buy Android products that have the word "Nexus" in their title, phones that get DIRECT updates from Google without wait and without alterations.
Problem is, I was gonna hold out on the Galaxy Nexus since I feel like a new one must be on the horizon.
Then I heard of the Atrix HD, which, like the other Atrixes (Atrice? Atrici?) has a very amazing starting price of $100.
And now Motorola mobile is owned by Google, right?
So, the TL;DR version of it is this:
Is this phone likely to see timely and consistent updates from Google? I know it just came out, but you guys are really great at what you do, so I'm wondering what your predictions are. Is this phone likely to see Jelly Bean at all in the near future?
I'd like to buy a phone that is future proof to AT LEAST Jelly Bean.
Thanks

The updates still come from Motorola. The acquisition doesn't mean anything to the updates. But this is probably one of Motorola's flagship phones now, so it'll have to get at least Jelly bean.
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mugabuga said:
The updates still come from Motorola. The acquisition doesn't mean anything to the updates. But this is probably one of Motorola's flagship phones now, so it'll have to get at least Jelly bean.
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according to what i've read, MB models are midrange, XT models are flagship. Regardless of this being the most powerful at the moment, it's mid range. There will be a Droid RAZR HD that will surpass this quickly with an XT model number.

bimmerd00d said:
according to what i've read, MB models are midrange, XT models are flagship. Regardless of this being the most powerful at the moment, it's mid range. There will be a Droid RAZR HD that will surpass this quickly with an XT model number.
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That can't be right. When the Atrix 4G launched it was the top of the line Motorola phone, the first dual core phone and won best of CES 2011. Anyway I'd have to agree with the previous poster it will eventually receive JB.

From my understanding, any device that runs ICS will be able to run JB

Well the only company that has conformed jellybean on there top of the line smartphones is htc!! And they did that yesterday only!! So i will give motorola few more days before hearing about jelly bean upgrade!! And we should understand only phone that has jelly bean is galaxy nexus!! But since motorola mobile is part of google now so we can expect faster upgrade cycle!! And mostly vanilla experience to!!
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hotrod010 said:
Well the only company that has conformed jellybean on there top of the line smartphones is htc!! And they did that yesterday only!! So i will give motorola few more days before hearing about jelly bean upgrade!! And we should understand only phone that has jelly bean is galaxy nexus!! But since motorola mobile is part of google now so we can expect faster upgrade cycle!! And mostly vanilla experience to!!
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Agreed, coming from a RAZR (yesterday) I'm well aware of Moto's lag time in Android updates. I have to say, though, they did an awesome job with ICS... Took forever, but it's awesome!
I took the red pill... It's the mAtrix for me...
http://android-gz.com

Well hope its gonna be soon this time!!!cant wait for buttery smooth experience!!!
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I'm pretty happy with ICS, so I'm OK waiting a little while for JB. Motorola will probably release it in 6 months, then AT&T will delay it for 6-9 more...not that it's really OK, I wish updates were faster. They need to cut out the carrier-specific modifications!

My wife just today got the new Motorola Atrix HD. So far I think it is a very nice phone and hope she gets great service from it. I to hope that the Jelly Bean update is pushed out for this phone. Only time will tell.

According to this, the Motorola Defy will get JB and it's reasonable that the newest devices will too...
Jelly Bean for the MyTouch 4G Slide, Desire HD, and Motorola Defy
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Just noticed it's a ROM so I'm assuming this is specially made b/c of it unlocked? But here is another quote...
"These devices are all a little older than some would expect to be receiving ports. But if the HTC HD2 can get it, newer devices should be able to as well."

Motorola Defy is still running on an old modified Froyo kernel, seeing as how they never even got gingerbread.
Quarx ported Jellybean over, however.Motorola has long stopped during about the defy
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Your best bet is a to go for a Nexus device it you want something that is close to being future proof. I kind of know what you are going through with waiting for a new nexus phone part of the reason I didn't drop $350 GNex. The best advice I can say is go with the AHD for now, you can even get one for $50 on contract from best buy or amazon as long are you don't mind going with the new tiered plans.
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The good news is that AT&T isn't forcing you onto the new shared data plans...yet. I figure they'll eventually decide to do that to keep up with Verizon, but for now they look a little better because of it.

SnoMan88 said:
Your best bet is a to go for a Nexus device it you want something that is close to being future proof. I kind of know what you are going through with waiting for a new nexus phone part of the reason I didn't drop $350 GNex. The best advice I can say is go with the AHD for now, you can even get one for $50 on contract from best buy or amazon as long are you don't mind going with the new tiered plans.
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Why do people still think best buy can't keep unlimited plans? Hasn't this dumb rumor been squashed months ago? Sure there may have been some dumb bbym guy that sucked at his job and lost someone unlimited but don't bunch us all in with his uneducated ass. Come see me, I got you on unlimited.
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Why do people still think best buy can't keep unlimited plans? Hasn't this dumb rumor been squashed months ago? Sure there may have been some dumb bbym guy that sucked at his job and lost someone unlimited but don't bunch us all in with his uneducated ass. Come see me, I got you on unlimited.
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Doesn't BestBuy charge you a Restocking Fee if you decide to return anything, especially a phone? Plus certain electronics only have 15 days instead of 30 days to return an item. If this is still true...save yourself the headache and get it from Costco (at their store or online with free shipping) and they give you free accessories (see my post about Costco just a few days ago).
If BestBuy has changed their policy, good but I can't tell you how long it's been since I've stepped foot in their store because of this. It's maybe part of the reason why they're struggling with their stores and trying to hang on to their mobile wireless departments.

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Doesn't BestBuy charge you a Restocking Fee if you decide to return anything, especially a phone? Plus certain electronics only have 15 days instead of 30 days to return an item. If this is still true...save yourself the headache and get it from Costco (at their store or online with free shipping) and they give you free accessories (see my post about Costco just a few days ago).
If BestBuy has changed their policy, good but I can't tell you how long it's been since I've stepped foot in their store because of this. It's maybe part of the reason why they're struggling with their stores and trying to hang on to their mobile wireless departments.
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Totally agree with you!!! i dont buy any thing form bestbuy anymore!!!

OK.. so this thread turned from a JB discussion to Best Buy? LOL. I'm about to pull the trigger on either the AHD or GS3 and am having a tough time deciding due to the JB issue and a few others. From the sounds of most of the comments here, it doesn't appear likely that Moto will offer the JB update, or am I missing something? The GS3 is a nice phone, but the screen on the AHD is far superior and the build quality of the Moto phone seems solid. What do you guys in this forum think? AT&T will sell me either phone for 50% off, no activation fee and a credit back to my account for the CA sales tax too

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OK.. so this thread turned from a JB discussion to Best Buy? LOL. I'm about to pull the trigger on either the AHD or GS3 and am having a tough time deciding due to the JB issue and a few others. From the sounds of most of the comments here, it doesn't appear likely that Moto will offer the JB update, or am I missing something? The GS3 is a nice phone, but the screen on the AHD is far superior and the build quality of the Moto phone seems solid. What do you guys in this forum think? AT&T will sell me either phone for 50% off, no activation fee and a credit back to my account for the CA sales tax too
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You strike me as someone who intends on modding ur phone, running roms and other mods or apps that require root so that makes the decision very easy, the GS3. It comes with an unlocked bootloader, root was gained before the phone was even released, the dev support is massive, aftermarket support is amazing, and JB is coming soon! Dont like the battery life? You can use a higher capacity battery if you choose. The camera is lovely! Especially since you're gonna be getting it for half off, that makes it a no brainer!
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Gadgetz.... thanks.. Actually your assumption is a little off base and that's due to me having been an iOS person for the past 4 years. And it's also the reason I'm drawn to Android, and even moreso after having watched the various vids about JB and Google Now.. simply amazing new version of Android.
So if I understand what you're saying, you're recommending I go with the GS3 for various reasons, regardless of me not liking the blue tint on AMOLED screens. And I can understand this to some degree. Also, when you install Nova I thought it only changed the look of the home pages and icons. Are you saying that it completely changes the UI including the notification bar where you can toggle on/off for Bluetooth, GPS, Wifi, etc? Sorry, but I'm a noob. I do like the new garnet red color on the GS3 but all of them are fingerprint magnets as you know. What case and screen protector do you recommend? Already found a high end, class 10 32mb microSD for $35 on eBay.

Potential Moto X Buyer

So I'm a Galaxy Nexus (Verizon) user and looking to get a new phone. I'm looking at getting a Moto X and I have a few questions about it. Mainly in regards to rooting and getting cyanogenmod up and running on it. I don't mind using its stock rom as it seems rather close to stock android, but I'm curious as to how hard is it to root a Moto X on Verizon and getting cyanogenmod on it and keep the special features like the shake to unlock the camera and the voice commands. Also how is the battery on the device (I normally stick to 3G and maybe web surf a bit and look at my RSS feeds through the day not a lot of really data intense apps.) Thanks.

I just got my Moto X a few days ago and found that I enjoyed the experience so much on it that I decided not to root. I have been rooting my phones for a few years and finally found a stock experience that I enjoy.
I don't see a reason why you would want to lose the amazing features that Moto X offers by switching to CM.
You can root the phone (there are guides around the forums for this) and add Xposed modules to modify some parts of the phone, however, any OTA updates will cause some headaches. With 4.4 around the corner for the Moto X I am going to hold off rooting for a while and enjoy what Motorola gave to us.

i.Design said:
I just got my Moto X a few days ago and found that I enjoyed the experience so much on it that I decided not to root. I have been rooting my phones for a few years and finally found a stock experience that I enjoy.
I don't see a reason why you would want to lose the amazing features that Moto X offers by switching to CM.
You can root the phone (there are guides around the forums for this) and add Xposed modules to modify some parts of the phone, however, any OTA updates will cause some headaches. With 4.4 around the corner for the Moto X I am going to hold off rooting for a while and enjoy what Motorola gave to us.
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I'm also a long time rooter/CM kinda guy, galaxy nexus, GS3 etc etc, and I can honestly say that the only reason I would root this thing would be to change the battery icon (aaagh I hate it so much)
But this phone is so so good out of the box, it's just not worth wasting effort trying...although it would be nice to drop a new kernel on it.
Best phone I've had so far.

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I'm also a long time rooter/CM kinda guy, galaxy nexus, GS3 etc etc, and I can honestly say that the only reason I would root this thing would be to change the battery icon (aaagh I hate it so much)
But this phone is so so good out of the box, it's just not worth wasting effort trying...although it would be nice to drop a new kernel on it.
Best phone I've had so far.
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I will eventually root this thing... someday. I would also like a new kernel and I want to have Greenify back and some small customization options, but for now I am going to enjoy not troubleshooting some sort of issue that comes as a side effect of rooting.

I I just switched to the Moto X from the gnex on Sprint. I am very happy with my decision. The battery life is an enormous improvement over the gnex. I have always rooted my devices and installed custom roms, but I am yet to do so on the Moto X. It has a great stock set up. I will likely root once 4.4 is avaliable, but only to get rid of the sprint crap.
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That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.

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That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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Moto Maker allows an option for 32gb, so you could wait for that on Verizon, or the Developer Edition is 32gb but you have to pay $549 for it.

Vergil117 said:
That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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We're hoping when Verizon gets Moto maker access 32gb will be an option. Right now you can get a 32gb developer version but you'll have to pay full price, ($550) and is only available in a weird white /black combo.
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Vergil117 said:
That's great to hear about the battery and stock ROM. Has anyone used the Motomaker site yet (Mainly this goes out to AT&T owners). I'd like to get mine through that when it opens up for most carriers on the 11th. But I'm curious exactly how does the process goes with activation and such. And I just noticed Verizon only offers the 16gig model is there anyway to get a 32gig model with big red.
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Moto maker is a breeze... You do everything through the website, new line, upgrade or off contact. Much easier than I had anticipated.
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Came from a galaxy "nexus" to the X and love it. I finally did root it and have played with Xposed a bit, and I will probably never flash a rom again. Xposed let's me change all of the things that I cared about on AOKP like having a torch toggle in QS, and statusbar/navbar transparency. To be honest, if I didn't want to enable native tether privileges (still unlimited here), I wouldn't be rooted.
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I am a prior nexus owner and I spent month with the HTC one and then took it back because it was garbage. I have had my x for only a couple of days and I mist say I am EXTREMELY impressed. If you loved your gnex you will love this phone!
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I am a prior nexus owner and I spent month with the HTC one and then took it back because it was garbage. I have had my x for only a couple of days and I mist say I am EXTREMELY impressed. If you loved your gnex you will love this phone!
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HTC One was garbage? Wow.
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HTC One was garbage? Wow.
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I LOVE HTC but I had the one for five weeks and at least 1 out of 4 calls were dropped randomly or my cheek would hang up the call. I loved the look of the one and thought sense 5 was the best sense yet. However due to the dropped calls the phone just did not work for me.
I have talked to others that returned the phone for the same reason

I wouldn't use the HTC one either. The sense UI is rather sluggish (I've used in the past before - HTC incredible and I've used the demo of the HTC one they had the verizon store and it was the same slowness), Not at all a fan of beats by dre/monster cables. And the button layout is kinda eh. Used to having 4 icons at the bottom with the main menu button being near the center.

Vergil117 said:
....but I'm curious as to how hard is it to root a Moto X on Verizon and getting cyanogenmod on it and keep the special features....
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Question for the group... Will rooting alone allow you to install CM? Is CM available to be flashed via safestrap?
I ask because -> http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...cyanogenmod-10-2-experimental-nightly-builds/ and -> http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Xt1060_Info seem to indicate its for Unlocked bootloader or Developer Edition. And since there is no way yet to unlock the non-Dev Edition's boot loader, it further appears its really for Dev Ed only. And all the roms that aren't a leak from Moto in the Developer sections here also state you need a Developer Edition X or Unlocked boot loader.
Vergil117, as far as rooting, JCASE has released ways to root the initial shipping rom version, and the OTA update for the camera fix. So that is easy enough. I have rooted mine, just to tether (I still have unlimited). As with other devices, if you don't have an unlocked boot loader, rooting after new ROM updates are pushed is uncertain.
Like most have posted, I think the X in its stock form is very nice, and I don't find a need to flash a alternate ROM. If you flash to CM, you'll loose the Moto customization like touch-less control, shake for camera, etc.

So I ordered a moto X through the Motomaker software on monday night. It still says est delivery by the 15 but it also says it hasn't shipped. Kinda worried.

Vergil117 said:
So I ordered a moto X through the Motomaker software on monday night. It still says est delivery by the 15 but it also says it hasn't shipped. Kinda worried.
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Same, I got to step 2 on Tuesday morning and that's been it so far. I'm hopeful we'll get our shipping notifications soon so we can get our phones before the weekend. But I know Moto probably got slammed with a bunch of orders on Monday so some of us may have to wait till next week...

Update to the shipping post. I got the fedex info and it should be here Friday yay.

Motorola's update system is way behind. When I ordered mine, over a month ago, It didn't say shipped until the morning it arrived and I didn't get a tracking number until an hour or so after I had already received the device.
But it arrived the day they said it would... I'd rather the info be late instead of the phone
Moto X rocking 4.4

Oh I know the feeling, Fedex was being lazy yesterday with my order. I live in a gated apartment building, the main lobby is like right next to the door to the building. I honestly think they saw the door and said oh no one here and went away. So I had to call them and tell them to drop it off at a fedex store.

Pure

Maybe I'm the only one who doesn't get it but I'm trying to order a Pure edition 2014 model on Motorola site but then it asks me to choose AT&T or Verizon. I thought pure edition was basically good for any carrier. Am I wrong do I have to pick carrier when buying Pure? Thanks.

AFAIK pure edition is when you choose T-Mobile version. It will work with at&t but won't work with Verizon. Its the only one without carrier branding and their apps, that's why it is called as a pure edition.
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On that page under "Choose Your Plan Type" you have to select unlocked without a contract. Then the Pure edition will be an option.

Thanks. Just tried selecting it and get message saying "the 32gb version with color selected not available for t-mobile at this time"
Guess that means sold out. So Pure will work with t-mobile and att right? I just have to wait for the t-mobile version to become available?

mario24601 said:
Thanks. Just tried selecting it and get message saying "the 32gb version with color selected not available for t-mobile at this time"
Guess that means sold out. So Pure will work with t-mobile and att right? I just have to wait for the t-mobile version to become available?
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Yeah, it comes with a T-Mobile sim but works just fine on AT&T. I'm using mine on AT&T so I can vouch for it.
They are out of stock with some color choices it seems. I want to send mine back for a different color combo but they are out of stock of the black fronts with 32gb. Hopefully they'll be back in stock before my exchange window is up.

_MetalHead_ said:
Yeah, it comes with a T-Mobile sim but works just fine on AT&T. I'm using mine on AT&T so I can vouch for it.
They are out of stock with some color choices it seems. I want to send mine back for a different color combo but they are out of stock of the black fronts with 32gb. Hopefully they'll be back in stock before my exchange window is up.
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Thanks. Lte and mms all working fine on att?

mario24601 said:
Thanks. Lte and mms all working fine on att?
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Yep! Everything works perfectly. Just put your sim in and run with it.

Really glad I'm not the only one who was confused by that. Unfortunately I made the mistake of ordering the AT&T version and had to return it and re-order a Pure edition. Got it all worked out and am now happily running an unlocked, rooted Pure Edition on AT&T.

Tried to order OPO, couldn't get through so just ordered Pure X. Can't wait to get it. Hope positive reviews are accurate and really hope negative reviews are not that true. I'm moving up from Nexus 4 so I'm thinking should be a significant jump up. Even ordered sim cutter to chop my AT&T sim down.

mario24601 said:
Tried to order OPO, couldn't get through so just ordered Pure X. Can't wait to get it. Hope positive reviews are accurate and really hope negative reviews are not that true. I'm moving up from Nexus 4 so I'm thinking should be a significant jump up. Even ordered sim cutter to chop my AT&T sim down.
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I had the OPO and sold it after 3 days. Trust me when I say this- you did the right thing by going with the X. It's in a class all its own. And coming from the Nexus 4, be prepared to be blown away. Taking all factors into account, the X is the best device currently available, IMO.
Why the sim cutter though? Just go to AT&T and get a nano sim.

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I had the OPO and sold it after 3 days. Trust me when I say this- you did the right thing by going with the X. It's in a class all its own. And coming from the Nexus 4, be prepared to be blown away. Taking all factors into account, the X is the best device currently available, IMO.
Why the sim cutter though? Just go to AT&T and get a nano sim.
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Thanks that's good feedback! I'm looking forward to it. I opted to cut my sim because I have att service through straight talk so a new sim is $15 or so.

_MetalHead_ said:
I had the OPO and sold it after 3 days. Trust me when I say this- you did the right thing by going with the X. It's in a class all its own. And coming from the Nexus 4, be prepared to be blown away. Taking all factors into account, the X is the best device currently available, IMO.
Why the sim cutter though? Just go to AT&T and get a nano sim.
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I just cancelled my OPO pre-order to go with this.
I'm paying more, but I just didn't feel happy with the size jump from Nexus 5 to OPO. I really just wanted an upgrade to my Nexus 5 to do me for the year.
Hope the development scene picks up for this, with us having a pure version.

I hope dev picks up for the X too. I was able to get student discount so if you can get it, saves you $50.

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Thanks that's good feedback! I'm looking forward to it. I opted to cut my sim because I have att service through straight talk so a new sim is $15 or so.
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Audioboxer said:
I just cancelled my OPO pre-order to go with this.
I'm paying more, but I just didn't feel happy with the size jump from Nexus 5 to OPO. I really just wanted an upgrade to my Nexus 5 to do me for the year.
Hope the development scene picks up for this, with us having a pure version.
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You guys are both going to love it. I have a Nexus 5 too, and it's a decent upgrade. Both phones are incredibly fast, but the Moto X is a much more elegant device.
@Audioboxer- What kind of development are you hoping for? The general consensus with last years Moto X was that the stock software was so good, that no custom ROM was needed. The 2014 Moto X is even better; I can't imagine why someone would want to flash a custom ROM. Not to mention the fact that you would lose the great Motorola features with a lot of ROMs. For me, stock ROM + Xposed is perfect.

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You guys are both going to love it. I am have a Nexus 5 too, and it's a decent upgrade. Both phones are incredibly fast, but the Moto X is a much more elegant device.
@Audioboxer- What kind of development are you hoping for? The general consensus with last years Moto X was that the stock software was so good, that no custom ROM was needed. The 2014 Moto X is even better; I can't imagine why someone would want to flash a custom ROM. Not to mention the fact that you would lose the great Motorola features with a lot of ROMs. For me, stock ROM + Xposed is perfect.
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I'm more so interested in seeing some kernel development (always helps with battery), for the reasons you posted (especially with Android L).
Guess I'm a bit sad this is a 2,300mah battery, but with an AMOLED screen it should be better than the Nexus5.

Audioboxer said:
I'm more so interested in seeing some kernel development (always helps with battery), for the reasons you posted (especially with Android L).
Guess I'm a bit sad this is a 2,300mah battery, but with an AMOLED screen it should be better than the Nexus5.
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2300mah seems small, but I can get 6+ hours screen time on my Moto X which is pretty good, IMO. It gets better battery life than the N5 so it's an upgrade regardless. In the Moto X's case, I'd rather it have the battery it has, than a larger one requiring the phone to be thicker.

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2300mah seems small, but I can get 6+ hours screen time on my Moto X which is pretty good, IMO. It gets better battery life than the N5 so its an upgrade regardless. In the Moto Xs case, Id rather it have the battery it has, than a larger one requiring the phone to be thicker.
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Sounds good
I just need to decide on the basic black back piece or black leather...
How grippy is the black resin? Or is it slippery?

Audioboxer said:
Sounds good
I just need to decide on the basic black back piece or black leather...
How grippy is the black resin? Or is it slippery?
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It's a tough decision. I have the regular black back, but I'm considering swapping it for a leather one. My buddy just ordered his leather one, so I'm gonna wait and see his and then make my decision. I'm just concerned that the leather will get damaged over time.
The regular back is nice and grippy. It has a great soft touch coating on it.

_MetalHead_ said:
It's a tough decision. I have the regular black back, but I'm considering swapping it for a leather one. My buddy just ordered his leather one, so I'm gonna wait and see his and then make my decision. I'm just concerned that the leather will get damaged over time.
The regular back is nice and grippy. It has a great soft touch coating on it.
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Think I'm going to go with regular. Just in case the leather does wear badly.
The Moto X UK site has a sale on for 24 hours today as well Must be fate! Haha.

Noticed that Cyanogenmod didn't really take off on the original Moto X. I'd hope with this years having modern specs we'd at least see Cyanogenmod popup in here for our Pure Editions :good:

[Q] trade S5 +$200 worth it?

Hey all!
Curious for this of you using the Nexus 6 if you're happy with it, pros and cons, etc.
I have Craigslister wanting my Galaxy s5 plus $200 for his Nexus 6.
From everyones experiences over the last few months, if you were me, would you make the switch?
is it worth the switch with that cost involved?
or am I better off sticking with my S5 for now?
Just curious if the Nexus is as good as the reviews say it is and if it's worth an already great Android phone plus some cash,,,Thanks!!!

I'd do it. I upgraded from the S5 and have never been more happy. Will never buy another Samsung phone again. Pure android is enough reason for me.

I really can't comment on the monetary side as I have no idea what you paid for your S5, but do I think the N6 is a better phone, for sure. It's pure Android and Android L is as good as it gets. This is the first Android phone I've owned that I've not wanted to install a custom ROM onto and only feel the need to root for a few useful apps. The only downside for you is the camera in some ways will be a step back. Yes, it has OIS and daylight photos turn out perfectly fine with the N6, but it isn't the greatest when it comes to low light photography. Could this improve in the future? Sure, we've seen other Android phones get camera updates that were quite significant. The speakers will be a huge step up from the S5. Their loud, very loud and that goes for calling also. You won't be having any issues when it comes to ear piece volume when it comes to making calls.
I will warn you, the phone will feel massive in your hand when you get it. I had doubts about even keeping mine when I bought it since I have smaller hands. After about a week, I got the hang of operating it one handed when I need to. It's a bit of a stretch to reach the opposite end of the keyboard, but you get the hang of it.

Vaxick hit all the right points. The part about the custom rom is subjective though. I prefer custom roms and the latest ota hasn't psyched the memory leak that is in lollipop. Most custom roms include it already.
As far as the price, the s5 is $609.90 right now with a retail price of $660 according to t mobile. So that person is ripping you off with the price, you're better off just buying a nexus 6 that is new from the play store or from Motorola or your carrier and sell the s5 by itself.
Plus, I don't really trust buying from other people without any sort of third party protection. It's very easy for someone to report the phone stolen after they sold it to you for a couple days and then your phone is rendered useless when you paid for it.
Youre better off just selling the s5 and buying a nexus 6 from somewhere more reputable.
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Thanks for the input! On a side note, I always meet the person at a carrier brick & mortar store to run the IMEI and everything to make sure it's all legit. I'm a 2 thumber when it comes to typing and owned a Note 4 a couple months back I think I can used to the size. Def want to get into Lollipop and want a more pure experience than TW gimmicks. If the camera can hold up to the G3 I had (which I though was really, really great) I think I may take the plunge. I'm not due an upgrade and can't really shell out the whole $650 right now, so I may take a little hit on the cash and go for it. Thanks again.
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cadorette said:
Thanks for the input! On a side note, I always meet the person at a carrier brick & mortar store to run the IMEI and everything to make sure it's all legit. I'm a 2 thumber when it comes to typing and owned a Note 4 a couple months back I think I can used to the size. Def want to get into Lollipop and want a more pure experience than TW gimmicks. If the camera can hold up to the G3 I had (which I though was really, really great) I think I may take the plunge. I'm not due an upgrade and can't really shell out the whole $650 right now, so I may take a little hit on the cash and go for it. Thanks again.
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Well either way, if you're going to be trading up your S5 + $200.... thats more than $650 in value if you think about it.
Motorola and depending on what carrier you have, they have financing options where you can pay it off in monthly intervals.
Even if the IMEI did checkout, they can call up their carrier and report the phone stolen days later. There's been numerous nightmare stories on Reddit and XDA where they've purchased a phone from a meetup via Craigslist and then days later the phone was blacklisted. From that point onward, you're pretty much out of luck as you have no "proof" that you actually bought the device other than your word.

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Vaxick hit all the right points. The part about the custom rom is subjective though. I prefer custom roms and the latest ota hasn't psyched the memory leak that is in lollipop. Most custom roms include it already.
As far as the price, the s5 is $609.90 right now with a retail price of $660 according to t mobile. So that person is ripping you off with the price, you're better off just buying a nexus 6 that is new from the play store or from Motorola or your carrier and sell the s5 by itself.
Plus, I don't really trust buying from other people without any sort of third party protection. It's very easy for someone to report the phone stolen after they sold it to you for a couple days and then your phone is rendered useless when you paid for it.
Youre better off just selling the s5 and buying a nexus 6 from somewhere more reputable.
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Gs5 isn't worth that much, its worth around 350 max and with gs6 coming soon, going be tough getting rid of it. op that's a good deal for you.
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Marshmellow coming in January 2016

It will probably take longer for vzw versions, but at least we know the order it is being released as well as approximate time.

Wonderful, us VZW guys aren't even on the list. Thanks Obama

I guess there is no love for the Galaxy Note Pro. At least my S6 Edge is getting it.

85gallon said:
I guess there is no love for the Galaxy Note Pro. At least my S6 Edge is getting it.
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I feel ya, I have a Galaxy Tab S 10.5.

Is the UK the same?

Sooooooo any updates on this?

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Sooooooo any updates on this?
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I haven't seen anything further. But I did install the free Marshmallow theme from the theme store.

One of my friends received Android 6.0 on his Boost Mobile LG Stylo today. Not bad for a $179 phone!

i see marshmallow has been out for a bit now for the s6 edge. how is there no tar for those of us who would like to try it out?
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It has not been released by Verizon yet.
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giobotta said:
i see marshmallow has been out for a bit now for the s6 edge. how is there no tar for those of us who would like to try it out?
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Google does the update and then sends it to Samsung for testing. IF Samsung decides the update is worthy and fits into their business plan for the life of the phone, they will test the update and correct things that are specific to the S6. IF that is completed then they send the update to Verizon, who in turn, decides if it fits in their business plan and the planned end of life for the product. If Verizon decides to pass it along then they update the code with their specifics and then they release it to the phones.
All of that has to go good before we knaves might see an update.
Unfortunately Android updates and timeline does not fit into the end of life plans for phones by the carriers. That is why we usually only get one or two updates.

Just saw this while searching online tonight.
http://www.mobipicker.com/galaxy-s6-s6-edge-s6-edge-s5-note5-note-4-android-marshmallow-update/
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It is no February 1st no Marshmellow

You guys know it's Marshmallow... with an A, not an E... right? Seems like something spell check should have warned you of...

Don't suppose anyone's heard anything for us VZW guys in terms of getting any updates, have they? About to list my phone on swappa and try to get something else... Not having root access or the ability to even really play with my phone is making this phone kinda boring to me. That and i'm not as much of a fan of the edge screen as I thought i'd be

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Don't suppose anyone's heard anything for us VZW guys in terms of getting any updates, have they? About to list my phone on swappa and try to get something else... Not having root access or the ability to even really play with my phone is making this phone kinda boring to me. That and i'm not as much of a fan of the edge screen as I thought i'd be
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If you do get a new phone I strongly suggest you get the Nexus 6. A bunch of support and you can unlock the boot loader and get any ROM you want it's awesome. I've been loving mine!

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If you do get a new phone I strongly suggest you get the Nexus 6. A bunch of support and you can unlock the boot loader and get any ROM you want it's awesome. I've been loving mine!
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Yeah it's a catch between the nexus 6 and the turbo 2 if I decide to move away. The turbo 2 in terms of hardware is slightly superior, but unfortunately it seems like it's suffering the same fate as my current phone
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spadz93 said:
Yeah it's a catch between the nexus 6 and the turbo 2 if I decide to move away. The turbo 2 in terms of hardware is slightly superior, but unfortunately it seems like it's suffering the same fate as my current phone
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Yeah so I've heard. Definitely would recommend the Nexus 6 as I'm using it right now and its amazing but its your choice. Price wise its pretty cheap too. Got mine for $225 on swappa

Starting to roll out from Samsung. Verizon will likely take forever to send it out though....

Another bit of a tease http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/02/16/samsung_starts_marshmallow_upgrades/