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As outlined by Droid dev Steven Bird: http://stevenbird.info/2010/07/10/the-droidx-security-and-discovery/
I know absolutely nothing about Android development, but here's hoping that another dev here can make sense of it.
I love the confidence.
Even worse news: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...-locked-down-let-me-tell-you-what-i-know.html
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Even worse news: http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/...-locked-down-let-me-tell-you-what-i-know.html
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An "efuse" hardware chip? Wow Motorola!
I like the screen of the droid x, I like the size, but there is no way I could in good conscience buy this phone. Motorola has just slapped the dev community in the face.
Even Iphone doesn't have this BS , i guess Motorola one upped apple by kicking customers twice in the balls.
couldn't they run into some legal issues with this efuse method?
what about women?
ghost77 said:
Even Iphone doesn't have this BS , i guess Motorola one upped apple by kicking customers twice in the balls.
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What we need to do is setup a site called "WeWant2RootDroidX.com" and make all tech blogs in the world link to it.
Well, just an idea.
zedomax said:
What we need to do is setup a site called "WeWant2RootDroidX.com" and make all tech blogs in the world link to it.
Well, just an idea.
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i like it. Lets really get people to notice that Motorola is really screwing with our "Open Source" phones
zedomax said:
What we need to do is setup a site called "WeWant2RootDroidX.com" and make all tech blogs in the world link to it.
Well, just an idea.
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Done deal. Give DNS a few hours to propagate and it's live!
The Droid X is already rooted though. The bootloader is what everyone is concerned about.
E30kid said:
The Droid X is already rooted though. The bootloader is what everyone is concerned about.
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Link to news of root?
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2010...-the-droid-x-may-not-lead-to-a-bricked-phone/
Apparently the original Droid has the same "eFuse". I think we need to reserve judgement until we find out if Moto is utilizing it or not. Just because it's there doesn't mean it's in use.
I was about to say the same thing, this chip is nothing new and doesn't stop you from rooting, get real, they even advertised the ability to root this phone in their ads
cyberhedz said:
I was about to say the same thing, this chip is nothing new and doesn't stop you from rooting, get real, they even advertised the ability to root this phone in their ads
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I don't know if I've seen an ad talking about root, but...
I talked to a device tester today and apparently there is something VERY different about the Droid X bootloader. They had VERY specific instructions from Moto that if the bootloader (MBM) didn't match exactly what they required to send the phone back to have the MBM updated. If it wasn't it would corrupt the phone.
Not sure if this is the same as the "eFuse", but should be interesting to see what happens the first time someone tries to mess with the bootloader.
Sorry for any misunderstanding. I dont have anything that works.
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I have an X and rooting files(I wont say what they are) ready to go, but you know what? Im not gonna be the first person to try this. Im sure someone out there will take the leap off of the proverbial cliff for us. Lets just hope moto didnt cut that persons parachute strings!
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Send them, I will help, i will be in irc, #DroidXRoot
Wow
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Done deal. Give DNS a few hours to propagate and it's live!
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Wow, that was quick!
i hear a lawsuit coming
Legion, Where are you?
This thread will be updated once Note4 is available. This thread will contain all guides and mods pertaining to Note4. Plus,it will have Stock ROMs and will have the root guide.
Looking forward to buying the Note 4 and use this thread as well
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Looking forward to buying the Note 4 and use this thread as well
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Me too
subscribe to this :good:
Looking forward to be using this forum.
very sad to see so many people talking s**t about the note 4.
It might not be a huge difference from note 3 but is definitely a big upgrade from my note 2.
I think everyone expect to have extreme changes in the devices every year and that is not possible anymore.
I think now the upgrade should be every 2 years.
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@mannyvinny good to see you in this section! Let's start working on this device an few weeks.
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@mannyvinny good to see you in this section! Let's start working on this device an few weeks.
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How about I join too
Well obviously some time till I get the device, but till then I can try and help you guys with some things
And @mannyvinny nice thought of having everything in one place.
I'll try to contribute some mods in themes and apps section after the system dump is out and if I get some time
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How about I join too
Well obviously some time till I get the device, but till then I can try and help you guys with some things
And @mannyvinny nice thought of having everything in one place.
I'll try to contribute some mods in themes and apps section after the system dump is out and if I get some time
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Everyone is welcome. Will be buying Note4 ASAP once it get launched.
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Everyone is welcome. Will be buying Note4 ASAP once it get launched.
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Though I'm gonna be a bit late due to my last year if school, count me in for any help or other things you find me worthy of
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I'd love the phone, but I'd miss having an unlocked bootloader.
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I'd love the phone, but I'd miss having an unlocked bootloader.
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Someone told me that if you get the TMO version it won't have a locked bootloader, and can be usedon ATT. I'm not sure if this is true, but considering going that route.
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Someone told me that if you get the TMO version it won't have a locked bootloader, and can be usedon ATT. I'm not sure if this is true, but considering going that route.
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Verizon :/ I really am getting tired of it from them tbh. I buy the phone, why should they lock the bootloader. (Yes, I know there are reasons, but still) they are not leasing the phone to me, You buy the device and use it on their network.I am paying for a service. That's just how I look at it.
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Verizon :/ I really am getting tired of it from them tbh. I buy the phone, why should they lock the bootloader. (Yes, I know there are reasons, but still) they are not leasing the phone to me, You buy the device and use it on their network.I am paying for a service. That's just how I look at it.
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I sure understand that thought. But I also understand the carriers not wanting to warranty phones that we hose trying to mess with them.
It's probably too much effort to position themselves to offer an unlock code for the bootloader, which would cost 'loss of warranty'. If they don't have to warranty them, then why should they care?
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I sure understand that thought. But I also understand the carriers not wanting to warranty phones that we hose trying to mess with them.
It's probably too much effort to position themselves to offer an unlock code for the bootloader, which would cost 'loss of warranty'. If they don't have to warranty them, then why should they care?
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probably because so many people lie when they call for warranty service, saying they dont know why their phone suddenly "stopped" working..
Now, what could be done, is to sell an unlocked phone/boot loader, NO WARRANTY AT ALL, and see how many folks buy that model...
Not many I bet..
guys
noob question
how straightforward to root flash samsung notes please?
I hope Skipsoft Android toolkit will be updated and work with note 4 ^^
Did anyone try towelroot yet?
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RiNo808 said:
Did anyone try towelroot yet?
Sent from my Note3 Rocking DynamicKat or my G3
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The vulnerability of towelroot was patched on all kernels deployed after 6th June.
It has very less chances of working.
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daproject said:
Looking forward to be using this forum.
very sad to see so many people talking s**t about the note 4.
It might not be a huge difference from note 3 but is definitely a big upgrade from my note 2.
I think everyone expect to have extreme changes in the devices every year and that is not possible anymore.
I think now the upgrade should be every 2 years.
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im upgrading from my note 1
No one shouts "Give Update!" No one asks "unlock bootloader". No one asks root. maiko1 and jcase not interested in these issues ... So, I can use TURBO for cracking nuts? What about those who have upgraded to 5.1? I did this in order to make the method Unbrick to 5.1 and now I'm left the fool ... But I'm not the only one! I think people would pay for MOFO ROOT and UNLOCK.
I apologize for such a harsh tone, but very disappointing ... :crying:
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No one shouts "Give Update!" No one asks "unlock bootloader". No one asks root. maiko1 and jcase not interested in these issues ... So, I can use TURBO for cracking nuts? What about those who have upgraded to 5.1? I did this in order to make the method Unbrick to 5.1 and now I'm left the fool ... But I'm not the only one! I think people would pay for MOFO ROOT and UNLOCK.
I apologize for such a harsh tone, but very disappointing ... :crying:
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AFAIK, maiko1 is working on trying to find an option to root 5.1. Root Junky was the one who implied that so I believe it.
But there are no guarantees that he can find one. Unfortunately, the bootloader on Motorola phones is getting tougher and tougher to hack. That is actually a good thing for your average user and especially for the business users.
We are a small minority of users - most Android users don't even know what a bootloader is and most want their phones to be secure and not easily hacked. We want the opposite but we are a niche market.
And jcase has repeatedly said he doesn't like people asking him for ETAs and bothering him to crack devices he isn't interested in. So there is no sense in bothering jcase about this - he is well aware of the fact that many of us would love for him to put some effort into hacking Motorola devices but he prefers to stick to the HTC devices.
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AFAIK, maiko1 is working on trying to find an option to root 5.1. Root Junky was the one who implied that so I believe it.
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I hope that the way it is! I now have hands tied and I can not do anything. And I practically one on a 4PDA.ru doing custom for TURBO.
ilia3367 said:
I hope that the way it is! I now have hands tied and I can not do anything. And I practically one on a 4PDA.ru doing custom for TURBO.
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I feel for you but in the future, please do not take OTAs unless you know there is a root method for the newer firmware or unless you are OK with doing without root.
I was the one who tested mofo on 5.0 for the first time so I knew I was taking a risk that if I upgraded to 5.0 it may not work. But I was OK with that because I was prepared to move on to the Nexus 6 if it didn't work. It ended up working so I stayed with my Moto X 2014.
I didn't know that everything will be so bad.
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I didn't know that everything will be so bad.
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Motorola phones have notoriously hard to crack bootloaders. We are lucky we even had mofo. Hopefully maiko1 can come through for us again.
I believe this is the point in phone technology that separates the men from the boys so to speak.... The true genius from the spelling bee champion.... If this doesn't apply to you don't wear it.. But thankful to alls hard work from previous roms cracks hacks toodles!
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Motorola phones have notoriously hard to crack bootloaders. We are lucky we even had mofo. Hopefully maiko1 can come through for us again.
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Wasn't mofo a zero-day exploit? That's like catching lightning in a bottle twice.
gqskrub said:
Wasn't mofo a zero-day exploit? That's like catching lightning in a bottle twice.
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Mofo exploits the last build of KK. I think it was the third or fourth update.
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Wasn't mofo a zero-day exploit? That's like catching lightning in a bottle twice.
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What do you mean by zero-day? If you mean that motorola was unaware of it, well all exploits are zero-day exploits then. I don't think they would release phones if they knew there were vulnerabilities.
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Cobra04 said:
Mofo exploits the last build of KK. I think it was the third or fourth update.
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MoFo also worked on 5.0 and 5.0.2 bootloaders. Just not on 5.1.
I Kept telling everyone that we had a way to get 5.1 on the turbo and not to take the OTA. But I get it you where the kid in the candy store and just needed your lollipop. Look in less than 48 hours I had a system.img rooted and ready to be flashed.
You can try and warranty your phone most of them they send out are not updated to lollipop.
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You can try and warranty your phone most of them they send out are not updated to lollipop.
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Thanks for the offer, but I will hardly be able to use it. I live for some thousands of miles from the USA... I'll wait for MOFO 5.1. I hope that it will happen!
ilia3367 said:
Thanks for the offer, but I will hardly be able to use it. I live for some thousands of miles from the USA... I'll wait for MOFO 5.1. I hope that it will happen!
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Ohhhh.
Sorry I hope you do not take firmware upgrade the same week they come out.
computerfreek274 said:
I Kept telling everyone that we had a way to get 5.1 on the turbo and not to take the OTA. But I get it you where the kid in the candy store and just needed your lollipop. Look in less than 48 hours I had a system.img rooted and ready to be flashed.
You can try and warranty your phone most of them they send out are not updated to lollipop.
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I'm trying that now. Actually not for that reason (my bluetooth isn't working), but I hope the replacement will still be 4.4.4 (highly chance since they cannot update those replacement that's already in the refurbished box )
I want to root at some point but wondering if this security system update will make it more difficult. Most likley since it's a new update nobody might know. Maybe it's been rolling out for a few weeks and someone knows something. Thanks
Edit: I see it's a security patch that I think started rolling out in January or it's a new February one. I still wonder if it will make root more difficult
no, root is still easy. its always the same method
You'll still be able to root after Feb. security update.
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ok thanks =).
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I want to root at some point but wondering if this security system update will make it more difficult. Most likley since it's a new update nobody might know. Maybe it's been rolling out for a few weeks and someone knows something. Thanks
Edit: I see it's a security patch that I think started rolling out in January or it's a new February one. I still wonder if it will make root more difficult
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WTH? This isn't a SAMSUCK phone. This is a NEXUS.
doitright said:
WTH? This isn't a SAMSUCK phone. This is a NEXUS.
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Yeah, from what I read they will put out monthly security patches or at least that's what the article said. There were some vulnerabilities in Android, all Android
jeffrimerman said:
Yeah, from what I read they will put out monthly security patches or at least that's what the article said. There were some vulnerabilities in Android, all Android
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Do I need to spell it out for you?
NEXUS IS A DEVELOPER'S PHONE. NOT A LOCKED OUT PHONE FOR RETARDS.
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Do I need to spell it out for you?
NEXUS IS A DEVELOPER'S PHONE. NOT A LOCKED OUT PHONE FOR RETARDS.
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I'm with you, we should protest and have a sit in in front of Nexus hehehe. The article was specifically addressing Nexus phones. Or did you not believe there was a patch for our phones? I guess the Nexus is still mildly retarded hehe
hxxp://www.techtimes.com/articles/121547/20160106/january-android-security-patch-for-android-6-0-1-marshmallow-now-live-factory-images-also-available.htm
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Do I need to spell it out for you?
NEXUS IS A DEVELOPER'S PHONE. NOT A LOCKED OUT PHONE FOR RETARDS.
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If a locked out phone is for retards, then who uses an iPhone
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I'm with you, we should protest and have a sit in in front of Nexus hehehe. The article was specifically addressing Nexus phones. Or did you not believe there was a patch for our phones? I guess the Nexus is still mildly retarded hehe
hxxp://www.techtimes.com/articles/121547/20160106/january-android-security-patch-for-android-6-0-1-marshmallow-now-live-factory-images-also-available.htm
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Go buy a samsuck or apple. Better fit for you.
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Go buy a samsuck or apple. Better fit for you.
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hahahahhahahahaha funny cool guy . Considering I've been rooting android for years and never used a iphone or samsuck it's probably not the case but please feel free to mail me yours, sank u buddy. Did the article not spell it out for you that Nexus 6 will be getting patches?? But I don't trust the sytem either man, lets go find that server hosting that site and push it over heheh
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hahahahhahahahaha funny cool guy . Considering I've been rooting android for years and never used a iphone or samsuck it's probably not the case but please feel free to mail me yours, sank u buddy. Did the article not spell it out for you that Nexus 6 will be getting patches?? But I don't trust the sytem either man, lets go find that server hosting that site and push it over heheh
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to answer your question a little better.. why is it easy to unlock the bootloader and root any nexus? its because google decided to give us a gift with the nexus one.. the gift, fastboot oem unlock. google has made any nexus easy to root, for no other reason except its much easier. do you think google will take it away from us? i dont, as thats part of the magic that makes a nexus. actually, they did it because of all the app developers AND modders/rom developrs, so they could use their nexus to make us apps and to improve the whole nexus experience(yes, on occassion google picks code written by our xda developers and adds it into nexus devices). so leaving it easy to root also gives google more coding options. yea, i really dont think googles gonna change that.
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Go buy a samsuck or apple. Better fit for you.
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to answer your question a little better.. why is it easy to unlock the bootloader and root any nexus? its because google decided to give us a gift with the nexus one.. the gift, fastboot oem unlock. google has made any nexus easy to root, for no other reason except its much easier. do you think google will take it away from us? i dont, as thats part of the magic that makes a nexus. actually, they did it because of all the app developers AND modders/rom developrs, so they could use their nexus to make us apps and to improve the whole nexus experience(yes, on occassion google picks code written by our xda developers and adds it into nexus devices). so leaving it easy to root also gives google more coding options. yea, i really dont think googles gonna change that.
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Thanks, yeah I was wondering if it would make it more difficult but knew they would never eliminate it. No point in updating if it's gonna even cause a small extra step but glad it was nothing. I just put on a different rom that took out most of the apps I don't need and says will have better battery life and that seems to be the case. Thanks again
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If a locked out phone is for retards, then who uses an iPhone
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the beauty of open source.
Someone in China make all G8, G8s, V50 rooted yesterday, without breaking the phone. Sorry for I don't know how it works.
The guy is the moderator of a forum in China, which is about LG phones since years ago. In the past he always help to unlock, root and make ROMs for LG phones, but now this guy count on this to make money and just sell phones he polished, refusing to tell how.
Anyway, I'm going to buy his phone now, G8 is quite a good phone, I really hope a guide to root can be made soon.
King Kaer said:
Someone in China make all G8, G8s, V50 rooted yesterday, without breaking the phone. Sorry for I don't know how it works.
The guy is the moderator of a forum in China, which is about LG phones since years ago. In the past he always help to unlock, root and make ROMs for LG phones, but now this guy count on this to make money and just sell phones he polished, refusing to tell how.
Anyway, I'm going to buy his phone now, G8 is quite a good phone, I really hope a guide to root can be made soon.
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Please report back when/if you receive the phone.
Edit: And, could you link to the forum that this guy is at?
King Kaer said:
Someone in China make all G8, G8s, V50 rooted yesterday, without breaking the phone. Sorry for I don't know how it works.
The guy is the moderator of a forum in China, which is about LG phones since years ago. In the past he always help to unlock, root and make ROMs for LG phones, but now this guy count on this to make money and just sell phones he polished, refusing to tell how.
Anyway, I'm going to buy his phone now, G8 is quite a good phone, I really hope a guide to root can be made soon.
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Please report back when/if you receive the phone.
Edit: And, could you link to the forum that this guy is at?
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The form is http://www.lgbbs.com/ but seems has no useful threads now. I will show you the phone when I get it.
Are you sure about V50? Cuz on that site I cannot find it...
Inerent said:
Are you sure about V50? Cuz on that site I cannot find it...
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I can confirm this as I saw his moment about the rooted V50. Teardown is required to root V50 and he can change the RAM to 12G and the storage to 1TB, quite crazy!
His main purpose is to sell rooted and modified LG devices.
wilkie0 said:
I can confirm this as I saw his moment about the rooted V50. Teardown is required to root V50 and he can change the RAM to 12G and the storage to 1TB, quite crazy!
His main purpose is to sell rooted and modified LG devices.
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wtf man!?!
KanBorges said:
wtf man!?!
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He changes the ram an storage with heat gun special machine. Your phone must be there. Not interested in this method of root.
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hello, for a couple of days looking for the possibility to get root permissions but unfortunately I can't find solutions. I currently own a LG G8s ThinQ (LM-G810EAW). I find only previous root permissions to this smartphone. Thanks a lot for the collaboration
there is no possibility at the moment the bootloader is not yet released by LG
but we have good results with the G8S. In ADB mode there are some instructions what to do to unlock the bootloder
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He changes the ram an storage with heat gun special machine. Your phone must be there. Not interested in this method of root.
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I don't really care much about the RAM or the storage. But how can you achieve root by messing with the phone internally?
Inerent said:
He changes the ram an storage with heat gun special machine. Your phone must be there. Not interested in this method of root.
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Agreed. I'm not interested in root where I have to ship my phone off somewhere or buy phone from someone.
The mint (unrooted) V35 I have (but not using) is because someone on XDA offered to sell me theirs -- so they could buy rooted V35 from China. A few weeks later, they updated me on their progress -- said the rooted phone they received from China not nearly great condition like the one they sold me.
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KanBorges said:
I don't really care much about the RAM or the storage. But how can you achieve root by messing with the phone internally?
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Some low level bypass or something where you mess with the circuitry. It would negate the IP68 rating, taking it apart like that.
I have on root G8,too
I have on root G8,too
JohnLance117 said:
I have on root G8,too
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Where's the proof?
wilkie0 said:
I can confirm this as I saw his moment about the rooted V50. Teardown is required to root V50 and he can change the RAM to 12G and the storage to 1TB, quite crazy!
His main purpose is to sell rooted and modified LG devices.
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It seems he can unlock BL officially and root V50 and G8 even without tearing down the phone. I guess he got some tools or files from LG company.
wilkie0 said:
It seems he can unlock BL officially and root V50 and G8 even without tearing down the phone. I guess he got some tools or files from LG company.
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So make an app or a way to do it, and charge for it. I'll do it.
Shtiff1 said:
So make an app or a way to do it, and charge for it. I'll do it.
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I'm sure the V50 community would have no issue in creating a bounty for whoever unlocks/roots the V50. I'd put money down now!
KanBorges said:
I'm sure the V50 community would have no issue in creating a bounty for whoever unlocks/roots the V50. I'd put money down now!
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I'll do it for the LM-G820UM! ?
V50 here, will donate something like 50 usd
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I'll do it for the LM-G820UM! ?
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V50 here, will donate something like 50 usd
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I'll do $100 Maybe we can set something up through PayPal or something.
Up! Maybe I'll add 100 also. V50 Korean here.