I am close to pulling the trigger on the MotoX2. However, I have one lingering issue that I need help with. Because of a disability, Always On Voice Input (OK Google) is very important to me. However, I am concerned with reviewers who have characterized Moto Voice as a "hack" (sometimes unresponsive, inaccurate, and a delay when needing a "handoff" to Google Voice). One reviewer who tested OK Google with the MotoX2 and N6 described the MotoX2 as being 1.5 times slower than the "pure" Google Voice implementation on the N6.
Having now verified that disabling Moto Voice on the MotoX2 causes instant on (from screen off) to no longer function (even under Lollipop) has left me with a dilemma.
I NEED Always On OK Google, but really don't want the size of the N6. So, I'm looking for input from MotoX2 users who regularly use Always On OK Google.
In general, I want to know, have the reviewers exaggerated the problems with Moto Voice? In day to day use, is Moto Voice accurate/responsive/quick "enough" when "handoff is needed? In addition, do users feel that the other features provided (specifically by Moto Voice; not the other Moto added features) is a fair tradeoff for the inherent delay when Google Voice is needed (i.e. would you trade them for the "pure"/faster Google Voice?
Any and all inputs/impressions are greatly appreciated!
Sounds like what you've read and researched is fairly accurate. Moto Voice responds well when you're clear and direct. Don't mumble and you won't have a problem. The delay is due to the handoff to Google Search. However, you can use either Moto Voice or Google Now. Both work well. The Moto X is a fantastic device. I don't think you'll be disappointed.
As far as I know the delay comes from the hack that Moto had to implement to overcome the android limitations in the area of "always listen". Im not sure about it but my assumption is with lollipop it should be faster due to the fact that it's already built in into OS
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I use Moto voice on daily basis. My day starts with "how's the weather today"
It is about 80% accurate, with my Indian accent. Considering that you have a better accent than i do you will be just fine.
That being said, you need to be in a fairly silent environment.
Does the delay bother me? Yes. Will it stop me from using moto voice? Heck no!
I integrated moto voice with commandr and tasker ad use about 20 tasks on regular basis so i am kind of addicted to moto voice. Apart from that i use moto voice for placing a call and texting, as a matter of fact it recognizes my friends' names(also indian) really well.
I would recommend you to go ahead and buy IF you believe you can use it a FAIRLY QUITE environment.
Thanks all for your inputs so far! Any further impressions will also be helpful!
@roaringcrown, I will be using it mostly from screen off, so I am tied to Moto Voice, as there is no support (even in Lollipop) for Always On with stock Google Voice.
@blinkin, it's my understanding that Moro Voice will still be required with Lollipop (for Always On), and hence, still the delay
@Prash8429, glad to hear it has decent accuracy even with your accent!
Thanks again to all. Looking forward to other impressions!
Moto X Voice Commands and Gesture on 3rd Party Home Launchers?
I have a quick question for user here on XDA. Can someone tell me if the 2014 Moto X Voice and Gesture command will continue to work from sleep/idle mode if I install a 3rd party home launcher? Or is this function specific to the stock launcher provided by Motorola on this phone? Thanks
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I have a quick question for user here on XDA. Can someone tell me if the 2014 Moto X Voice and Gesture command will continue to work from sleep/idle mode if I install a 3rd party home launcher? Or is this function specific to the stock launcher provided by Motorola on this phone? Thanks
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I have had no issues with other launchers whatsoever.
Thanks for the update. I like the launcher I am using now and didnt want to have to stick with stock launcher just to use all the moto features...
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I have had no issues with other launchers whatsoever.
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Using Nova Launcher Prime with no issues....
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I have read all about how Samsung "might" be providing a way to allow us to deactivate VLingo for another voice App which as you all know is NOT possible at present.
I love my GNote but the simple act of trying to initiate a call via my Voyager Pro+ BT headset is SO UNRELIABLE it renders voice dialing while driving totally USELESS and a real issue for me.
How are other GNote users fairing with this? Am a one of a few users with notable issue, using VLingo or are the many others out there who find this App very inconsistent. I come from MS Voice Command and although it had a limited set of commands compared to VLingo, Googe Voice Search, Voice Talk BUT at least it worked reliably AND did not need access to the cloud to do such mundane tasks.
I saw this thread today:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344194&highlight=vlingo
but have never dome any ADB mounts before and I cannot believe that we Android users have to struggle with such a basic funtion.
HELP!
I have been debating buying a Moto X for some time. I keep missing the Dev edition before it sells out (twice now) and I have really been having a hard time with this. I'd like to know what your overall impressions are as well as your input on some various features.
For background, I'm currently using the G2, which I like very much, but the Touchless control, active notificaitons, Moto Connect, Trusted BT devices, and Moto assist features are a big draw for me.
So my questions:
How do you feel about the build quality (overall as well as any defects with your device)?
Do you like the screen? Anyone coming from a 1080p device feel that they are kind of missing out?
Touchless control - Do you use it and if so, do you find it useful?
Active notifications - Do you like this feature more than a dedicated LED? Do you find that you miss notifications or that the screen doesn't come on when you'd like?
Moto Connect - Anyone using this regularly? Does it work well?
Trusted BT Devices - Is anyone using this to bypass pin lock on a corporate account? If so, what device are you using (Pebble smartwatch, jawbone, etc) and how is it working for you?
Moto Assist - How is that feature working for you? Do you find it indespensible, or just nice to have?
Camera (post update) - Anyone with the camera update care to elaborate on how you feel about the X as a camera now?
I know that's a lot of questions. You don't have to answer them all. Just weigh in where you have input. I have read all the reviews and I'm trying to gather some real world commentary on these features and the device as a whole before I pull the trigger.
Thanks in advance to anyone who replies.
Build quality is excellent in my opinion. Coming from a HTC ONE I don't miss 1080p one bit especially with the gained battery life from a lower resolution screen. Motorola connect is my favorite feature so far. I've never had an issue with it. Active display is a game changer. Overall it's the best device I've used to date. You won't regret getting one.
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Build quality is excellent in my opinion. Coming from a HTC ONE I don't miss 1080p one bit especially with the gained battery life from a lower resolution screen. Motorola connect is my favorite feature so far. I've never had an issue with it. Active display is a game changer. Overall it's the best device I've used to date. You won't regret getting one.
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I use Motorola connect a lot too and it is one of my favorite features. but for some reason it doesn't like my contacts and contact pictures. for most of my conversations it only shows the phone number. I don't know why. some of the contacts display picture and name. others just display the number.
1. perfect
2. cant tell the difference, like the video rendering better than what ive seen to date on any android
3. very useful, im doing all my texts and calling without using my hands
4. love this one, cant go back now to not having it
5. downloaded the chrome extension, great
6. not using this
7. use it for driving, plays pandora when i start driving without touching anything
8. happy now, happier in "very soon" as motorola stated today
9. dont wait, get it, its a GREAT phone
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I use Motorola connect a lot too and it is one of my favorite features. but for some reason it doesn't like my contacts and contact pictures. for most of my conversations it only shows the phone number. I don't know why. some of the contacts display picture and name. others just display the number.
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Mine used to show only numbers on most contacts and names on a few. The last few days it seems to have been corrected lately as I'm seeing all of my contact names. I did swap out my first x(white) for the black one and when I set up moto connect on the new one the contact names now show. Maybe if you delete and re add the chrome extension it would work? Just guessing though.
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Mine used to show only numbers on most contacts and names on a few. The last few days it seems to have been corrected lately as I'm seeing all of my contact names. I did swap out my first x(white) for the black one and when I set up moto connect on the new one the contact names now show. Maybe if you delete and re add the chrome extension it would work? Just guessing though.
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Does Motorola Connect use much battery?
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Does Motorola Connect use much battery?
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I don't believe it uses a lot of battery. It didn't on mine. I started using moto connect but it seems still in its beta stages. If you like moto connect I might suggest trying the mightytext app. They have been doing the text from computer stuff for a lot longer. I was using it previously and switched back to this until moto connect becomes more reliable. The contacts sometimes appear for some people. i had it both ways. Reinstalling at one point made them all appear. But I don't like the pop-out windows much.
Differences/similarities between connect and mightytext:
1. both use a chrome extension and have pop ups in the bottom right corner of your screen
2. MT pops up an individual conversation between you and the other person while I believe the connect just pulled a pop up of all of your text (this was one of my biggest issues)
3. MC lagged more with me when sending texts and then marking that it had sent texts in comparison to MT
4. MT has a webpage that has all of your text on it while MC does a pop out from the chrome extension button that when you click anything else not in the box it goes away. But you can click the pop out button there so MC will make a different window, but it seems to reload messages when it does this
5. Sometimes when viewing the texts from the chrome extension pop out and the actual pop out window in MC they didn't match
6. sometimes in MC it will show the text someone sent but not have loaded the ones I sent yet but it did eventually load. This happened especially when I sent the text manually from my phone as opposed to from my computer while using MC.
as for your other questions. I really think this phone might be a good buy because of its hardware. I feel like the development of touchless controls and other apps that may use the same hardware in the future could get huge. Other phones won't be able to do this because they don't have the low power processor. Also active notifications can become highly improved. Further there is an led light on the phone but I nor anywhere I have read has figured out how to utilize it if we decided we wanted the led light as well as active notifications. Also, the camera technology allowing better action shots isn't that great right now but it can be improved greatly over time. And finally, many of the areas that things can be improved on are more apps then big updates that will need to be released by google, so they will hopefully get to your phone faster, e.g., touchelss controls, active notifications, etc..
How do you feel about the build quality (overall as well as any defects with your device)?
Overall build quality is nice and the phone has a nice weight and feel to it.
Do you like the screen? Anyone coming from a 1080p device feel that they are kind of missing out?
Screen is fine, and more than adequate.
Touchless control - Do you use it and if so, do you find it useful?
I have only tested it but appears it could be useful
Active notifications - Do you like this feature more than a dedicated LED? Do you find that you miss notifications or that the screen doesn't come on when you'd like?
So far I like it but it is a little sensitive. Some additional controls would be nice.
Moto Connect - Anyone using this regularly? Does it work well?
On my list to test...
Trusted BT Devices - Is anyone using this to bypass pin lock on a corporate account? If so, what device are you using (Pebble smartwatch, jawbone, etc) and how is it working for you?
Trusted BT works well and is a nice feature.
Moto Assist - How is that feature working for you? Do you find it indespensible, or just nice to have?
Camera (post update) - Anyone with the camera update care to elaborate on how you feel about the X as a camera now?
Do not have the update yet.
Hey everyone,
I unlocked my boot loader, rooted, and flashed CM11 on my Moto X a couple days ago. I am only missing the Active Display feature from stock and wanted to replace it with something from the play store. I am running into a problem with both acDisplay and Dynamic Notifications apps. They both work when I get notifications, however do not work at all when set to "active mode". They should be using proximity and motion sensors to imitate how the Moto X normally operates. Does anyone know a way to get them to work similar to how they are "advertised" to work?
I'm sorry, I don't know the answer to your issue..
But I wanted to say, any app that mimics Active Display will take a great toll on your battery life. Active display is designed to use an extremely small amount of battery on the Moto X.... Any other app will not be so battery friendly.
This is why the majority of users stick to stock, with Xposed and Gravity Box for customization.... Or use stock based roms, that have the unique moto features in them.
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Hey everyone,
I unlocked my boot loader, rooted, and flashed CM11 on my Moto X a couple days ago. I am only missing the Active Display feature from stock and wanted to replace it with something from the play store. I am running into a problem with both acDisplay and Dynamic Notifications apps. They both work when I get notifications, however do not work at all when set to "active mode". They should be using proximity and motion sensors to imitate how the Moto X normally operates. Does anyone know a way to get them to work similar to how they are "advertised" to work?
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In not seeing where either of those apps claim to use the sensors in a similar way as stock active display. Where do you see that they are advertised to do so?
Edit: scratch that. I do see that acdisplay claims to use the sensors.... Not sure why it isn't working for you.
@KJ is correct that they will use much more battery than stock AD, which takes advantage of the low voltage components of the X.
The Moto Hint page lists "advanced features" as follows:
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories-bluetooth-headsets/Moto-Hint/moto-hint-pdp.html
"Pair with your Moto X and ask questions like, “What’s today’s forecast?” or “How do I get home?” and get answers directly in your ear. You can also hear notifications, make calls, and send messages without having to touch or look at your phone.*"
The asterisk on the bottom of the page says: "* Requires Moto Voice, only available on Moto X (2nd Gen.) and Droid Turbo."
Is this pre N6 dated information, or should the Always Listening Capabilities of the N6 allow this functionality with this device?
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The Moto Hint page lists "advanced features" as follows:
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories-bluetooth-headsets/Moto-Hint/moto-hint-pdp.html
"Pair with your Moto X and ask questions like, “What’s today’s forecast?” or “How do I get home?” and get answers directly in your ear. You can also hear notifications, make calls, and send messages without having to touch or look at your phone.*"
The asterisk on the bottom of the page says: "* Requires Moto Voice, only available on Moto X (2nd Gen.) and Droid Turbo."
Is this pre N6 dated information, or should the Always Listening Capabilities of the N6 allow this functionality with this device?
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Moto Voice and always listening are different. Moto Voice is a seaparate API that calls on Google's Google Now Voice Commands so it's safe to say this won't work as described with the Nexus 6.
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The Moto Hint page lists "advanced features" as follows:
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories-bluetooth-headsets/Moto-Hint/moto-hint-pdp.html
"Pair with your Moto X and ask questions like, “What’s today’s forecast?” or “How do I get home?” and get answers directly in your ear. You can also hear notifications, make calls, and send messages without having to touch or look at your phone.*"
The asterisk on the bottom of the page says: "* Requires Moto Voice, only available on Moto X (2nd Gen.) and Droid Turbo."
Is this pre N6 dated information, or should the Always Listening Capabilities of the N6 allow this functionality with this device?
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Donjuanal beat me to it. And don't you think it would be odd for it to be pre-N6 dated information, when the Droid Turbo was only just recently announced, well after the N6 was?
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The Moto Hint page lists "advanced features" as follows:
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories-bluetooth-headsets/Moto-Hint/moto-hint-pdp.html
"Pair with your Moto X and ask questions like, “What’s today’s forecast?” or “How do I get home?” and get answers directly in your ear. You can also hear notifications, make calls, and send messages without having to touch or look at your phone.*"
The asterisk on the bottom of the page says: "* Requires Moto Voice, only available on Moto X (2nd Gen.) and Droid Turbo."
Is this pre N6 dated information, or should the Always Listening Capabilities of the N6 allow this functionality with this device?
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You can still use the Hint with the N6, it just won't have all the Moto Voice features that you get with the Moto X.
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You can still use the Hint with the N6, it just won't have all the Moto Voice features that you get with the Moto X.
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Does that mean it will be always listening or no?
I also just bought the Moto hint and paired it with my N6. I sure would love for someone to port over the always listening feature from the Moto X to our Nexus 6. They are both made by Motorola and should work, theoretically anyway.
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I also just bought the Moto hint and paired it with my N6. I sure would love for someone to port over the always listening feature from the Moto X to our Nexus 6. They are both made by Motorola and should work, theoretically anyway.
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The "always listening" feature in the Moto X relies on specialized features designed into the hardware; I don't think they incorporated that into the Nexus 6 though.
what do you mean by the always listening feature? google now listens and responds to me, on my nexus 6, with the screen off and not plugged in. isnt that the same thing?
edit.. never mind. i just realized that its an ear piece :angel:
The standby time with it on is only like 2-3 hours. I just got it because it was a nice looking device
I wonder if we have an alternative to this device that can use our Ok Google features.
EDIT: we can use this app with any bluetooth headset it seems. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vibaroo.btnow
Any updates on functionality of the hint with N6?
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I wonder if we have an alternative to this device that can use our Ok Google features.
EDIT: we can use this app with any bluetooth headset it seems. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vibaroo.btnow
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I installed Swipeup Utility, so that swiping up would trigger a voice search instead of launching Google Now on my N6. It turns out that by remapping the action it also alters the behavior of a bluetooth play/pause button long-press -- it now launches the Google Voice Search interface! That's awesome, since I can give commands now just like I used to do when I had an iPhone. I switched to Android several years ago, but I've always missed the ability to control basically everything by voice.
Got the hint today. It works with voice commands. You just touch the side of it while in your ear and talk.
Pretty cool but I want a better fit. Not sure if I want to keep it or not.
Hello XDA!
I was wondering if its possible to install and run the original Moto Display application on my device. My device is a Moto X 2014 (Pure Edition) running Cyanogenmod 14.1. I have tried alternatives such as DynamicNotifications, ACDisplay, and Cyanogenmod's own Ambient display, but none compared to how Moto Display feels. I've tried installing the application from the Play Store but once I open the "Display" portion of the Moto app, the app crashes and goes to the main screen. Any help at all would be appreciated. Thanks again and I look forward to my first XDA Thread.
Hi man!
I get that this is your first thread, but this has been discussed a million times. You'll never get Moto Display or Voice on any ROM that is not stock. They're closed source apps and there's nothing we can do about it, not even workarounds because the lads at Google are greedy bast*rds which have hijacked most of the features in Android, the most notable one being, guess what, voice control.
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Hi man!
I get that this is your first thread, but this has been discussed a million times. You'll never get Moto Display or Voice on any ROM that is not stock. They're closed source apps and there's nothing we can do about it, not even workarounds because the lads at Google are greedy bast*rds which have hijacked most of the features in Android, the most notable one being, guess what, voice control.
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Thanks for your help. I am sad that its a close sourced app but I guess there's nothing I can do about it. Thanks you for assisting me in this matter.:good:
You're welcome I also used CM14 for some time until I realised that workarounds for Display weren't the same thing, that replicating Voice functionality was a lost cause, and that I needed some Xposed-related features for my job (such as disabling the proximity sensor).
I settled on stock 6.0 with N-ify and N Navbar, which do a pretty good job at making this phone feel up-to-date.
It's a setup I would suggest to anyone looking for a feature-minded compromise, even if multiwindow is absent and quick reply only works to a certain extent.