This might be old news as I haven't had a chance to visit much recently, but 4xxx serial Chromecasts are in the wild in the US.
There are 4xxx serial units with the older packaging (got some 41xx) as well as newer packaging.
Haven't had a chance to check if they're rootable via HubCap yet, but I'm guessing they might not be.
Newer packaging has a different seal sticker as well as different front art, and also has "Mfg date" sticker.
Didn't pick up the newer packaging ones, I think I have enough at the moment.
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This might be old news as I haven't had a chance to visit much recently, but 4xxx serial Chromecasts are in the wild in the US.
There are 4xxx serial units with the older packaging (got some 41xx) as well as newer packaging.
Haven't had a chance to check if they're rootable via HubCap yet, but I'm guessing they might not be.
Newer packaging has a different seal sticker as well as different front art, and also has "Mfg date" sticker.
Didn't pick up the newer packaging ones, I think I have enough at the moment.
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I was able to pick up one in Great Bend, KS at Wal-Mart with serial #4819. Has the same packaging as shown in your pictures and I got it for $25, was near the checkouts near a pretty long row of Blu-Ray/DVD's. They had fifty or so still left and I saw more in the electronics section.
The serial number makes no difference to rooting, it's the shipped firmware version.
My chromecast I got months ago is 4113 and rooted no issues at all, this thread is pointless.
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The serial number makes no difference to rooting, it's the shipped firmware version.
My chromecast I got months ago is 4113 and rooted no issues at all, this thread is pointless.
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The second part is what I wanted to know. Thanks, though yours is probably the "old" packaging, yes?
Considering I started the Rootable Serial Numbers thread... there is a bit of method behind my madness.
The point here is - if Google has revamped the packaging, likely they will start shipping a non-rootable firmware with it, and then we go back to "Okay, with what serial number did the newer (unrootable) firmware start shipping with?" just like the old days.
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The second part is what I wanted to know. Thanks, though yours is probably the "old" packaging, yes?
Considering I started the Rootable Serial Numbers thread... there is a bit of method behind my madness.
The point here is - if Google has revamped the packaging, likely they will start shipping a non-rootable firmware with it, and then we go back to "Okay, with what serial number did the newer (unrootable) firmware start shipping with?" just like the old days.
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My packaging is the same as your picture, same bottom, same man of steel on the back, only difference is it doesn't have the row of apps on the front, the text is slid down the chromecast pic at the top, but that's probably just a uk thing.
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My packaging is the same as your picture, same bottom, same man of steel on the back, only difference is it doesn't have the row of apps on the front, the text is slid down the chromecast pic at the top, but that's probably just a uk thing.
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Sounds like the rev 2 packaging, with lens flare on the Chromecast.
The original packaging didn't have lens flare on the Chromecast on the front, Man of Steel on the back (it was a baby) nor did it have the Hulu Plus icon.
Rev 2 packaging shortly preceded the end of units shipping with the first FlashCast-rootable firnware (build 12072).
Save for refurbished/RMA/used units, most/all units with the rev 2 packaging should have HubCap-rootable firmware builds.
So now we wait to see if history repeats itself and units with non-HubCap-able firmware (build 19085+) follow or coincide with this new packaging.
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Just a thought... has it occurred to you all that you may just be taking part in The Nexus 7 Shuffle?
Getting the impression that those replacements received are all... well... used devices. And most are equally faulty.
I think the same faulty units are just circulating indefinately until the time comes that everyone just gives up and accepts that the whole lot of them are a heap of junk (by which point it's too late to get a refund)...
I'm being cynical, I know. Personally, returned my first faulty device for a refund. 1 month later, still no refund from Google.
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Just a thought... has it occurred to you all that you may just be taking part in The Nexus 7 Shuffle?
Getting the impression that those replacements received are all... well... used devices. And most are equally faulty.
I think the same faulty units are just circulating indefinately until the time comes that everyone just gives up and accepts that the whole lot of them are a heap of junk (by which point it's too late to get a refund)...
I'm being cynical, I know. Personally, returned my first faulty device for a refund. 1 month later, still no refund from Google.
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I can tell you from today's experience that it is not the case. At least with Google it isn't. True I got a C70K model number for my replacement, but this one has none of the issues my first one did.
I'll break it down. When I requested a replacement I was sorta beating myself up over it. I thought "maybe I'm just over reacting and this is a hugely minor flaw to call Google over." I fully expected this one to have the same issues but less severe, thereby confirming my suspicion. I was wrong. This new one is actually making me realize the opposite was true. I had a worse N7 than I initially thought. There is no lip on the right side of the screen and no lift on the left. My other one's screen was incorrectly mounted on both sides compared to this flush unit. Plus my old one had a small bulge on the left side of the back cover by the 3 pins. This is not a shuffled unit. If anyone had this prior they would have been fools to return it.
I would be more willing to harbor the notion that a big box retail store might do what you are describing.
I don't think Google is sending out defective refurbished products for RMAs. From a few that mentioned their batch numbers, sounds like they are getting tablets from the latest batch (some are reporting C80K batch numbers now). So seems they are getting brand new units.
I did two RMAs in July. Unfortunately each unit I got was worse than the original. So I decided to stop and just live with what I have for a while. I may go ahead and try another RMA soon though.
my story goes as this...
6th of august i ordered a n7 16gb...
21th at 18:00 pm i finaly got it (the e-seller here in Greece said it was running low on stock tho on 6th availability was 100%!!)
21th at 18:05 i unboxed it and found out that there was a whole line of dead pixels on the screen!!
i went to the shop right away and i still wait for any feedback...have called them 3-4 times send 2 mails still waiting
on their web site the 16gb version status is "waiting new stock for 28th of august"
i took a photo of the serial etc i see " SSN:C60k bc****
c60k is the version or somethink?
I just got my first replacement and found it is a C70K batch. This one unlike the previous Nexus is flawless! The spongy issue on the left side is non existent and no bleed through on the screen like on the other model! Props to El Goog for being so quick.
hm seems that most or many of the pps saying that C60 is the "bad" version of nexuses...i guess i will have to wait and see if i will be able to get a c70 or c80 one...
My two 16 gb N7' s from c60 are fine.
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This thought has occurred to me as well, particularly on the people that are sending 5 and 6 units back.
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hm seems that most or many of the pps saying that C60 is the "bad" version of nexuses...i guess i will have to wait and see if i will be able to get a c70 or c80 one...
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My C60 is fine. Only issue is occasional I/O stuff, but that's a software problem, not hardware.
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All of a sudden while trying my CC from Chrome on a my PC which I never used before, my CC couldn't connect and showed "Set me up". I had problems setting it up the first time and I got the "use the extender" on the screen. Trying the second time, I was having problems as well. I decided to add the extender, plugged it in, powered up and it showed "Ready to Cast"!
The catch is that the thing sticks out like a sore thumb now on the side of my TV. I did have a USB WiFi adapter right next to it so I moved that. I was thinking of getting a 90 degree HDMI adapter, anyone try one? How many have been forced to use the extender?
I've used my CC with HDMI right-angle stuff, be mindful of the CC's "bulk" and you'll be okay. Personally I like fixed (rigid) adapters more than the flexible or hinged ones but I guess that's matter of personal preference.
I've never seen the "Use extender" message before, interesting!
I got the message today actually when I was playing with my Chromecast on a tv in a room that's farthest from my router..never seen it before myself..I was like "....huh? What's this?"
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I've used my CC with HDMI right-angle stuff, be mindful of the CC's "bulk" and you'll be okay. Personally I like fixed (rigid) adapters more than the flexible or hinged ones but I guess that's matter of personal preference.
I've never seen the "Use extender" message before, interesting!
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I had removed the extender but the message came back again and I had to reinstall it again.
BestBuy was supposed to have the AudioQuest 90 but only had the more expensive Monster brand flexible so I ended up ordering one from Amazon. One thing to watch is either it's a narrow or wide, meaning which way it bends. In my case, I needed a wide version.
While at BestBuy I couldn't resist buying the rootable 3915 CC that I tucked in the back of the shelf the other day!
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I had removed the extender but the message came back again and I had to reinstall it again.
BestBuy was supposed to have the AudioQuest 90 but only had the more expensive Monster brand flexible so I ended up ordering one from Amazon. One thing to watch is either it's a narrow or wide, meaning which way it bends. In my case, I needed a wide version.
While at BestBuy I couldn't resist buying the rootable 3915 CC that I tucked in the back of the shelf the other day!
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I'm lucky to have a nearby store that carries a lot of cables at/near Monoprice prices for that kind of stuff. There are some that bend in any direction, but my inner engineer doesn't trust how all that signal fits through that narrow clumping of wire, heh.
And yeah... I just picked up two more CCs... the local store had fewer than 15 rootable units remaining out of the 80+ on the shelf. Most were 3Axx, though I saw a handful of 3928 and 3929... Even saw a lone 3930 - I guess those do exist too! I left the rootable ones together, so if someone goes looking they might find the mother lode! :victory:
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I'm lucky to have a nearby store that carries a lot of cables at/near Monoprice prices for that kind of stuff. There are some that bend in any direction, but my inner engineer doesn't trust how all that signal fits through that narrow clumping of wire, heh.
And yeah... I just picked up two more CCs... the local store had fewer than 15 rootable units remaining out of the 80+ on the shelf. Most were 3Axx, though I saw a handful of 3928 and 3929... Even saw a lone 3930 - I guess those do exist too! I left the rootable ones together, so if someone goes looking they might find the mother lode! :victory:
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I'm very jealous, with CCs not being sold where I am I've had to ask people questions on local auction sites who have imported them and hope that 1) it's an old unit - although the serial number information is very helpful now, and 2) that they're truthful about not opening it.
I got one the other day that was sealed (although it looked iffy as it was peeling a bit) (38...) went to flash it and flashcast wouldn't work, started it up and found it trying to connect to the sellers wifi network (which was named after the street he lived on). Needless to say I was not greatly impressed.
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I'm very jealous, with CCs not being sold where I am I've had to ask people questions on local auction sites who have imported them and hope that 1) it's an old unit - although the serial number information is very helpful now, and 2) that they're truthful about not opening it.
I got one the other day that was sealed (although it looked iffy as it was peeling a bit) (38...) went to flash it and flashcast wouldn't work, started it up and found it trying to connect to the sellers wifi network (which was named after the street he lived on). Needless to say I was not greatly impressed.
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Ohhhhh man!! Kyonz....man I can't help but to laugh a lil about this..lol I'm sorry man, that's not funny at all, but given the kinda luck that I've got, I'm just laughin inside to myself a little bit because that sounds like something that would probably happen to me!! Honestly. I'd be SERIOUSLY P.O.'d to no end!! That's bs right there man...really, it is. If the seller sold it to you stating that it was brand new... for example: "Brand New In the Box, UNOPENED, Ready to Root", and you received it with the "security seal" looking slightly peeled back and the firmware had already tried to access the seller's personal home network, I'd be furious!! If you purchased it using PayPal or any other online service that provides a system for complaints, returns, refunds, etc, I'd definitely look into something like that. .....OR you could pull the "good ol' boy" method and go for a little stroll down his street
I agree with @jsdecker10 here, I'd want my money back, or at least some kind of partial refund.
Reminds me of when I bought a "new" digital photo frame. It was pretty darn close to new, even still had the stickers on the front, but it also was configured with the previous user's email info (lucky for them now way to retrieve/reply) and an SD card full of pictures (none of them naughty, heh). I was okay with the price (even as slightly used), though, so I decided to keep it.
I went so far as to ask the seller if they wanted the card back, and I tracked down the person whose pictures they appeared to be and asked them too, as they didn't appear to be the seller. Neither responded... so minus on use, plus on a free SD card. I really wish people would just be honest on both sides of the fence... Okay, sorry, OT rant over.
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I agree with @jsdecker10 here, I'd want my money back, or at least some kind of partial refund.
Reminds me of when I bought a "new" digital photo frame. It was pretty darn close to new, even still had the stickers on the front, but it also was configured with the previous user's email info (lucky for them now way to retrieve/reply) and an SD card full of pictures (none of them naughty, heh). I was okay with the price (even as slightly used), though, so I decided to keep it.
I went so far as to ask the seller if they wanted the card back, and I tracked down the person whose pictures they appeared to be and asked them too, as they didn't appear to be the seller. Neither responded... so minus on use, plus on a free SD card. I really wish people would just be honest on both sides of the fence... Okay, sorry, OT rant over.
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Exactly right!! ..like people always say: "Honesty is the best policy." I'm a FIRM BELIEVER in this!!
friend asked to me to unlock his phone, claims its sprint note4.
ran app called genuine galaxy - passes as genuine.
have all spec of note4 but looks a little different.
cpu ram hdd camera fingerscan ir, all work
back sticker says sph-l355
cheap plain plastic
no chrome rings
speaker grill is gold
stylus chrome is gold
the screen looks abit smaller and corners look squarer compared to mine
It looks a little thicker than mine and has squarer corners
Most likely a Research and Development version of the Note 4.
EDIT: Did he buy it on eBay or something?
Edit 2: I attempted to read the battery but its hard from the picture. this is what i got.
Code:
Reading the battery it says:
WARNING: This is a sample of an unreleased product of Samsung Electronics Co Ltd
Any violation of the following may result in civil criminal *can't read*
1. Do not take pictures or leak the specifications of the product/sample.
2 Do not sell, distribute *can't read* or leave the sample unattended.
3. Do not enable photo synchronization *can't read* benchmark tests.
Also there is a NOT FOR SALE right below that.
So I'm going to stand strong on my first answer that it's a R&D phone. I'd like to know how he got a hold of that.
It's definitely a Sprint variant of the N910P used for testing. Probably the version Sprint uses to test firmwares and bloat installs and check Network compatibility.
It was most likely manufactured June, 3, 2014 and shipped out on August, 16, 2014. Shows some interesting data on R&D manufacturing and shipping delay.
Too bad he didn't have the original test firmware. That would have been neat.
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Reading the battery it says:
WARNING: This is a sample of an unreleased product of Samsung Electronics Co Ltd
Any violation of the following may result in civil criminal *can't read*
1. Do not take pictures or leak the specifications of the product/sample.
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Oh, no, he posted pictures of it on the internet! Can you hear the police knocking on the door yet? No, I guess they'll just breach through the backdoor then.
JK...
Thanks for posting that. I though Samsung's R&D devices were as close as possible to the released version. Now I know that R&D devices are quite spartan.
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Oh, no, he posted pictures of it on the internet! Can you hear the police knocking on the door yet? No, I guess they'll just breach through the backdoor then.
JK...
Thanks for posting that. I though Samsung's R&D devices were as close as possible to the released version. Now I know that R&D devices are quite spartan.
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Haha, no problem. It looks different most likely because it was manufactured 3 months before and most likely shipped 1 month before the Official Samsung announcement of the Note 4 which was back on September 3. My theory is that if one of them leaked it wouldn't be showing exactly what the device would look like and also prevent China cases that were based on the Note 4 from spoiling the actual design. If you look at the S6 leaks a lot of them tend to be very square like our unit here. maybe there is some truth to them.
What if you install
latest n910p firmware? But first make a nandroid of current one.
OMG!
It's this:
http://heavy.com/tech/2014/08/samsung-galaxy-note-4-video-leak-teasers/
They were right!
Wow.. could you take more photos of it with better lighting? I want to see how it looks a bit closer. Also with the s-pen. Thanks!
Wow, that's a unicorn!
^^^^awesome man.
I for one, like the design of the prototype. Reminds of one of those robust built Nokia Lumia's and Sony Xperia Designs. Hopefully Samsung IS Reading this. Lol. :good:
Try check IMEI by this link: https://imeidata.net/warranty/samsung
IMEI: 35992105835xxxx
Serial Number: R38F100xxxx
Model: GT-I9505
Product Code: GT-I9505ZWAVDI
Division: Mobile Phone (HHP)
Sold To: Ireland
Carrier: Vodafone
Production Date: July 12, 2014
Ship Date: January 13, 2014
Phone Age: 0 Year(s), 6 Month(s), 15 Day(s)
Factory Warranty Coverage: October 12, 2015
Just got a new Chromecast - it is the newer box with the Despicable Me 2 minions on the back. S/N 4C10102Zxxxx MFG: 12/2014
Did not set up or connect to Internet.
Attempted HubCap and failed with both 12940 and 16664 hex files.
LED just stays red.
I used @ddggttff3's test to check for the build number
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52020396&postcount=1
"build_version":"20472"
Does not appear to have been previously loved.
This is not a Refurbished unit.
Anyone else run into an off-the-shelf, new-in-box un-HubCap-able Chromecast?
BTW: Yes, I know how to HubCap - and I double-checked to be sure.
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Just got a new Chromecast - it is the newer box with the Despicable Me 2 minions on the back. S/N 4C10102Zxxxx MFG: 12/2014
Did not set up or connect to Internet.
Attempted HubCap and failed with both 12940 and 16664 hex files.
LED just stays red.
I used @ddggttff3's test to check for the build number
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52020396&postcount=1
"build_version":"20472"
Does not appear to have been previously loved.
This is not a Refurbished unit.
Anyone else run into an off-the-shelf, new-in-box un-HubCap-able Chromecast?
BTW: Yes, I know how to HubCap - and I double-checked to be sure.
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This is definitely a first as far as I'm aware. Are you positive that it was not previously used? I know of a few people here in Australia who hurriedly returned their new CCs for an exchange after realising that the OTA update had hit them.
Where was the CC purchased from?
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This is definitely a first as far as I'm aware. Are you positive that it was not previously used?
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I'm almost 100% sure, that device was newer used before, because of two reasons. bhiga is experienced CC user, so when he says, that it was newer connected to internet, I believe him. And most importantly, look at the build number. Not even close to recent update, and curiously its build number, which was never released to public as OTA update (after 19084, there was 22062). And its the same situation as with previous untouched Chromecasts (15098 was also never released as OTA update).
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I'm almost 100% sure, that device was newer used before, because of two reasons. bhiga is experienced CC user, so when he says, that it was newer connected to internet, I believe him. And most importantly, look at the build number. Not even close to recent update, and curiously its build number, which was never released to public as OTA update (after 19084, there was 22062). And its the same situation as with previous untouched Chromecasts (15098 was also never released as OTA update).
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Yes, after I re-read the post, I recognised bhiga as the author. Definitely a first.
Hi folks, thanks for your interest.
Purchased from Best Buy online.
Package does not show any signs of being previously opened (though the new easy-pull seals are don't show tampering as well as the older clear ones that showed VOID in the adhesive).
The HDMI plug did not show any signs of being plugged in before (often times there are scrapes or scuff lines - you'll see this on refurbished units).
The plastic liner on the side of Chromecast looked untouched (it loses stick and will lift if not carefully opened).
The power cable looked well-wrapped with original bends like stock.
The top hanging loop is separated, telling me this probably got shipped from a store rather than directly from the warehouse.
I'm not going to exclude the possibility that this unit was previously used and very carefully repacked quite yet, but we all knew there would be some point that the factory would start shipping a newer firmware, just like happened earlier.
Definitely curious to hear from any others that have the same packaging and similar serial number what build they have.
I didn't want to post this in the serial numbers thread just yet (and cause potential panic buying), in case this is just a fluke or indeed a return.
Pictures attached.
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Hi folks, thanks for your interest.
Purchased from Best Buy online.
Pictures attached.
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Thanks bhiga. It definitely looks like you have the first reported NIB build >19084. Also as srandista mentioned, build 20472 was not an OTA build, so it could not have been a return.
I think there will probably be a bit of a flurry of buying up old stock once the word gets out.
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Thanks bhiga. It definitely looks like you have the first reported NIB build >19084. Also as srandista mentioned, build 20472 was not an OTA build, so it could not have been a return.
I think there will probably be a bit of a flurry of buying up old stock once the word gets out.
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Thanks for the second opinions. Lucky me. Looks like I'll have to be updating the Rootable Serial Numbers thread soon.
It was really only a matter of time before they started shipping units with Un Rootable OS installed.
Checked my local store, majority are MFG DATE 12/2014 or 01/2015 and newer. The shelf stock which had been in the 70+ range prior is now down to less than 20. I didn't see the Chromecast stand up display rack either.
Will do some tests to try to narrow down the serial boundary when I have time.
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Checked my local store, majority are MFG DATE 12/2014 or 01/2015 and newer. The shelf stock which had been in the 70+ range prior is now down to less than 20. I didn't see the Chromecast stand up display rack either.
Will do some tests to try to narrow down the serial boundary when I have time.
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Is there even anyone still out there putting these new updates through it's paces looking for new root exploits?
My first guess would be no so even if there was a way to root it no one is really looking for it anymore...
Of course we probably wouldn't know even if they were cause why say anything unless you found something? LOL
I'm just glad I got my second chance after failing to read XDA before plugging it in the first time around!
LOL
I have found lots of uses for the Teensy too!
I'm not sure there's a lot of effort going into future root though i'm sure there are folks who simply enjoy the challenge.
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I'm not sure there's a lot of effort going into future root though i'm sure there are folks who simply enjoy the challenge.
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Perhaps if the fears everyone was so concerned with when the CCast first came out were realized...(Draconian banning of App Support by Google)
It might be a little more important. But I have not heard a single report of someone providing an app for CCast that was not eventually Whitelisted.
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Hi folks, thanks for your interest.
I didn't want to post this in the serial numbers thread just yet (and cause potential panic buying), in case this is just a fluke or indeed a return.
Pictures attached.
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If bhiga is still present (or anyone else who can comment), it has been a couple of months since this unrootable NIB was discovered but I haven't heard whether this has become the norm or was it a one-off glitch. I have kept my ear to the ground on this but all seems quiet?
Any updates?
Thanks
Feelers reported on another thread a 4C16 that came with 20472, so the root spring is definitely starting to dry.
I completely revamped the rootable serial numbers the new information but there hasn't been a lot of chatter lately.
So far it seems things get fuzzy starting around 4A20.
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I'm almost 100% sure, that device was newer used before, because of two reasons. bhiga is experienced CC user, so when he says, that it was newer connected to internet, I believe him. And most importantly, look at the build number. Not even close to recent update, and curiously its build number, which was never released to public as OTA update (after 19084, there was 22062). And its the same situation as with previous untouched Chromecasts (15098 was also never released as OTA update).
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Hi everyone. Just checked my NIB CC. Serial is 4C13 MFG: 12/2014 build version: 20472. Ordered from Amazon US. Good news or bad news? Haven't connected to internet or anything. I just checked the build that's all.
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ferdinez said:
Hi everyone. Just checked my NIB CC. Serial is 4C13 MFG: 12/2014 build version: 20472. Ordered from Amazon US. Good news or bad news? Haven't connected to internet or anything. I just checked the build that's all.
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Any build greater than or equal to 19084 is not rootable by current means.
So yours is not rootable unless a new exploit is found, sorry.
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I'm not even gonna touch on this seeming psychotic break, I'll just say there are more than one model of screen that will fit an FE.
ones made for the Exynos version are presumably identical except for a controller of some type. those won't work on a snapdragon phone.
maybe the Amazon seller bought a batch of screens at a knock down price without realising. these logs partially sound like they could be failure upon failure for a screen that is continually rejected as not compatible.
order again from a different seller and look into the 2 separate part numbers for replacement screens. then go outside shoeless and feel the grass between your toes.
The Samsung P/Ns have to match. Order by P/N only. There are also carrier model variants too. The parts aren't interchangeable...
OP, if 3mel hadn't posted I never would have realized what you were posting about. My brain turned to goo reading what should have been your first paragraph