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Hi
I know what I like about this handset.
What I want to know [as being more informative to me] what is not to like about this one.
I'm planning to buy it with contract and use it for another 2 years.
So I'm asking for opinion of these of you that don't change phones every quarter and think about annoyances in long shot.
My highlights:
Most worrying info I have found about this handset is:
A) music reproduction is poor [as on gsmarena] - is there any other review that uses synthetic test? [I use phone to listen to a music for 5h a day]
B) no notification LED - never had phone without it, how big pain is it? [I know about noLED app, it MAY drain battery]
C) fairly often on holidays I take film shoots of people, is rubbish focus still an issue or was it fixed, or is fixed with custom ROM [I'll head to andro development once I'll finish this post ]
Handset will be bought in UK.
thanks for any info
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this post'd better be in the general discussion session if you want good responses. Otherwise dont hold your breath because this phone is apparently not selling well at all, so no point putting it here.
Hey,
About the music, I think there is nothing wrong with it. I think it depends more on your headset. And dsp manager helps a lot .
About camera, it's an excellent camera in good light and in bad light it isn't that bad only there is some noise in pictures taken in bad light condition.
Hope this helps.
muzamal said:
Hey,
About the music, I think there is nothing wrong with it. I think it depends more on your headset. And dsp manager helps a lot .
About camera, it's an excellent camera in good light and in bad light it isn't that bad only there is some noise in pictures taken in bad light condition.
Hope this helps.
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Have you tried even switching to video recording mode in partly lit room? Room is good enough to read but not good enough for this crap phone to record video.
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There's no custom Roms. Bootloader is locked and no way to unlock it. Battery life is not that good. Phone gets hot. If the first two get fixed at any time, the last will most likely be fixed by custom Roms.
Notification via key LED works quite well.
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Notification via key led? How?
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muellersmattes said:
There's no custom Roms. Bootloader is locked and no way to unlock it. Battery life is not that good. Phone gets hot. If the first two get fixed at any time, the last will most likely be fixed by custom Roms.
Notification via key LED works quite well.
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I can imagine that LED that lit soft buttons is being used by noLED application - smart if true. Why "quite well" not "very well" ?
I realize that putting question about sound Q in poll is subjective, but I keep in mind gsmarena results too.
Yes I went to 'development' and noticed that there is no custom ROM, but also this is fairly new phone... anyway I'm on PAYG for next 3 or 7 or 11 weeks and waiting for better news about LG or better price of S3 [17.50pm vs 22.50pm on mobiles]
I have also read that all phones get hot to some extent
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I can imagine that LED that lit soft buttons is being used by noLED application - smart if true. Why "quite well" not "very well" ?
I realize that putting question about sound Q in poll is subjective, but I keep in mind gsmarena results too.
Yes I went to 'development' and noticed that there is no custom ROM, but also this is fairly new phone... anyway I'm on PAYG for next 3 or 7 or 11 weeks and waiting for better news about LG or better price of S3 [17.50pm vs 22.50pm on mobiles]
I have also read that all phones get hot to some extent
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It's not the NoLed app, but there's the LG Notification app linked in the Themes & Apps section. As you guessed right it uses the LED that lights the buttons. Can be set up to different events and blinking frequencies and stuff, it takes a while to set it up. That's why i wrote "quite well". It's not out-of-the-box, but if you set it right, it works "very well", at least for me. Of course it can only do what the LED supports, so it's only white light and no fading.
Is the video focus issue solved with an update? I didn't see it on lists of the changes on the updates, maybe i missed it. With which update was it solved?
I am most upset by the sound quality of the phone speaker as it is at the back of the phone so miss a lot of incoming calls if you put you phone in your pocket even though volumn set to highest!. It sucks when you use the speaker phone during a call. Same problem for the the alarm, it is not loud enough unless you place it with the back facing up
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Is the video focus issue solved with an update? I didn't see it on lists of the changes on the updates, maybe i missed it. With which update was it solved?
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Video focus bug has been fixed since v10c.
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Yeah but there is now an issue with the exposure in a dark, or slightly dark, area. It's way underexposed.
upset bootlocker locked. thus still no custom to make device better.
xkill3rprox said:
Video focus bug has been fixed since v10c.
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Thanks for answer.
NO!
muellersmattes said:
There's no custom Roms. Bootloader is locked and no way to unlock it. Battery life is not that good. Phone gets hot. If the first two get fixed at any time, the last will most likely be fixed by custom Roms.
Notification via key LED works quite well.
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There is a way to unlock the bootloader, we just havent figured it out yet. There might even be a solution before the end of september.
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There is a way to unlock the bootloader, we just havent figured it out yet. There might even be a solution before the end of september.
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there might be a ways to root it, but i doubt that unlocking bootloader will be possible (not that i know too much about it)
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there might be a ways to root it, but i doubt that unlocking bootloader will be possible (not that i know too much about it)
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I dont know about this stuff either, but i read about this app that unlocks the bootloader on verizon galaxy s3. If there is any way to do this for our phone, it would be awesome.
Damn xda won't let me post links, but check "VZW GS3 EZ-Unlock" on google play.
I just now figured out it cannot do USB-OTG although all other new phones can. Dealbreaker!
VOIP / SIP is cut away although it is standard in ICS. Thanks LG!
Touchscreen does not work well under extreme situations / when capacitively loaded (cold wind, charger connected, litte moisture, etc.)
Although the GNSS chipset can do GLONASS it is switched off can only do GPS. Thanks LG!
When videochatting on SKYPE ( if it runs properly at all ) and charger is connected, still the battery drains ! The charger is not able to supply enough power when the whole system is running at max consumption. WTF ? Absolute no go ! Another Dealbreaker !
No open Bootloader! I did not know this. I'm new to android. I thought that rooting is everything. Crap...
Well meanwhile I have had the phone for 2 months, most probably I will not sell it back. I hope the bootloader is somehow opened and there will be a better ROM..
Just got mine today, mainly to know when I get phone calls or messages, not as a replacement for my S5. However, I am seeing a lot of other things going on so I'd like to see what it can actually do. I've tried some watch faces but I'm having a hard time getting everything I want on it. Analog, ACCURATE temp, day, date. I can get part of all but the temp is wrong. Also what does Tasker do for me? And Glance? Is ti worth using those apps and do you have some others that you'd like to suggest for a functional guy?
I am happy with canvas for pebble, where you can easily make your Personal watchface.
Also you can modify / copy the built in Layouts, add sensors and switch watchfaces with a little tap via the canvas-app.
Cheers
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Aut0mat3d said:
I am happy with canvas for pebble, where you can easily make your Personal watchface.
Also you can modify / copy the built in Layouts, add sensors and switch watchfaces with a little tap via the canvas-app.
Cheers
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Been working with Canvas all day and I like it. I now have the watch face (for digital anyway) that I like. Dumping Glance. Too hard to use.
I just started using awear and I like it
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MrShigs said:
I just started using awear and I like it
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I"m a pretty minimallist guy and the Pebble lets me do that. Looked at the Samsung stuff and thought about Androidwear but that all looks pretty complicated. Let me know how it works for you. I just used Canvas to build a digital face that had pretty much everything I want info wise on it. Weather still doesn't track with my Phone but it's close enough.
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I"m a pretty minimallist guy and the Pebble lets me do that. Looked at the Samsung stuff and thought about Androidwear but that all looks pretty complicated. Let me know how it works for you. I just used Canvas to build a digital face that had pretty much everything I want info wise on it. Weather still doesn't track with my Phone but it's close enough.
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The app gives a lot of features with a very simple look. I really like some of the features though such as being able to reply to a text message with quick replies. So far so good. I also use Pebble Instant as well.
rogerperk said:
I"m a pretty minimallist guy and the Pebble lets me do that. Looked at the Samsung stuff and thought about Androidwear but that all looks pretty complicated. Let me know how it works for you. I just used Canvas to build a digital face that had pretty much everything I want info wise on it. Weather still doesn't track with my Phone but it's close enough.
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Feel the same way! Really considering the steel over a Moto 360 b/c I don't need all that junk. Plus I feel like the color display would suck battery life and be distracting...
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I am interested in Androidwear but I'm pretty sure the shiney stuff won't convince me to buy. Cool concept though. Just don't think its practical now.
Coming from the Pebble, the vibration on the Gear Live is pretty weak.
Is there a way or setting to increase it?
Mastiha said:
Coming from the Pebble, the vibration on the Gear Live is pretty weak.
Is there a way or setting to increase it?
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I would like to know that too or longer vibration.
I've not seen any settings
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Brendo said:
I've not seen any settings
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I don;t think there is one (yet) and I agreed, the vibration notification is really brief and really subtle
Maturola said:
I don;t think there is one (yet) and I agreed, the vibration notification is really brief and really subtle
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I agree, i'm really excited about Android Wear, but am very disappointed in how weak the vibration notification are. I've read other similar complaints about the "gear 2". I compared it to a friends gear fit vibration, and the live is much weaker. The gear fit's vibration is audible, which is maybe why samsung chose to make it weaker, since the "gear live" vibration is pretty silent. I can feel it when i'm wearing the watch tight enough to cut off my circulation, but it's uncomfortable that way! When i wear it a notch or two looser, i just miss notifications. I setup a recurring text cron to myself to test it, and i'm missed most of them when i'm not paying attention to the watch explicitly. I'd love a setting to increase the vibration, or to allow a multiple vibrations for notifications or something, but as is, unless that happens in the next few days, i'm prepared to return the watch and wait for a new model with good good vibrations.
Its app Dependant. For example, evolvesms, the vibration is much stronger.
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Thanks. Zach. Hopefully some custom roms can fix it across all apps. Mostly I need hangouts and timers to be more noticeable.
This vibration is piss poor Samsung. My lord
I don't think Samsung are doing anything rom wise. All google. Surely in future updates they'll have it vibrate stronger. Then again, I've not tried any apps that are able to vibrate it to see if it does actually go stronger
Any news on how to increase vibration? An app or a ROM perhaps? I know the G Watch has a ROM that can customize vibration.
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Any news on how to increase vibration? An app or a ROM perhaps? I know the G Watch has a ROM that can customize vibration.
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There has to be a way because if you swipe down on the clock face, "mute" shows up with the weak, brief vibration.
Swipe down again and this time it says "unmute" and there is a stronger, longer vibration!
So, it can be done... but how for text or emails?
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miike1106 said:
Any news on how to increase vibration? An app or a ROM perhaps? I know the G Watch has a ROM that can customize vibration.
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I have written a guide on the general forum to use tasker and autonotification to produce a stronger vibration for notifications.
Hi,
I have just added a "make notifications vibration stronger" in last SWApp Launcher Wear version:
https://plus.google.com/+CyrilPreiss0/posts/CUX1DsHCTTw
One of my last hang ups on getting the Nexus 6 is how it will handle notifications. I know it will have Ambient Display, but from what I have been able to read, its not going to pulse like the Active Display of the normal Moto phones. Has anyone seen how the Nexus 6 will handle notifications yet?
This is exactly what I'm trying to find out, i keep checking all the unboxing and first hands on video and reviews
and they just keep talking about the size, specs and camera, i might have to pass on this nexus if it doesn't pulse in some form, i just can always keep picking up my phone check for a message.
Yep. If it doesn't pulse or blink or something, it will be a poor choice. Knowing you have a notification from across the room or in a dark room, is one of the things I like about 95% of Android phones.
The last phone I had without an LED light was the GS2, and I had to use other means.
It seems like such a simple request for anyone with the phone to check as well. Every unboxing and first impressions video I have watched (far too many) have all said that "it has moto x like notifications and that's a good thing" but every time they show the settings it doesn't indicate that it pulses or breathes. I was hoping that DL would have answered this question when they got their test units, but even they haven't yet.
I'm pretty sure Google knows it's silly to send a visible notification only once. I'm confident they've incorporated some form of pulse or renotification of some kind. Fingers crossed
In any case if it is or not just remember this. ITS A SOFTWARE FEATURE.
I mean come on guys, we are XDA. If its not perfect I am sure one or some of us here will be able to modify the feature to allow whatever we want. The feature is baked into 5.0 android now and is Open, all we have to do is work on a expanded settings system to customize it if it already does not have one. Hell if Xposed gets properly ported to ART we can surely see a module for it!
Stop acting like its the end of the world if it does/doesn't have the exact feature of software design as the Moto X. Its a software feature and if demand needs it I am sure we will find a way to make it happen. Have faith in XDA and the Developers.
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In any case if it is or not just remember this. ITS A SOFTWARE FEATURE.
I mean come on guys, we are XDA. If its not perfect I am sure one or some of us here will be able to modify the feature to allow whatever we want. The feature is baked into 5.0 android now and is Open, all we have to do is work on a expanded settings system to customize it if it already does not have one. Hell if Xposed gets properly ported to ART we can surely see a module for it!
Stop acting like its the end of the world if it does/doesn't have the exact feature of software design as the Moto X. Its a software feature and if demand needs it I am sure we will find a way to make it happen. Have faith in XDA and the Developers.
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Its definitely not the end of the world. I'm not being dramatic and condemning the phone if it doesn't have it. Just looking for an answer to what I hope Google realizes is a basic need. I've been rooting and roming since the OG Droid days here so I know what XDA can do, I just don't believe this is a feature that I should need to rely on the Devs here to create.
First of all, it's something you can turn off. So if it doesn't work the way you want it to you don't have to use it.
Google is also pushing Android Wear which makes anything like Moto Display (ie Active Display) pointless cause you can see it on your wrist faster anyway.
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First of all, it's something you can turn off. So if it doesn't work the way you want it to you don't have to use it.
Google is also pushing Android Wear which makes anything like Moto Display (ie Active Display) pointless cause you can see it on your wrist faster anyway.
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Not everybody can afford a $250 "wear" on top of their phone purchase though.
G3
20degrees said:
Not everybody can afford a $250 "wear" on top of their phone purchase though.
G3
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Or want to. I really have no desire to spend $250 on a watch that I have to replace every couple years because it becomes obsolete or the battery is well beyond is usefully life.
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Or want to. I really have no desire to spend $250 on a watch that I have to replace every couple years because it becomes obsolete or the battery is well beyond is usefully life.
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The battery on the G watch is really great actually.
And if you don't want Android wear, don't buy it. But that's where Google is going so some features that used to be present on phones that aren't as necessary now will potentially be removed.
Ambient display on N6 works similar to Moto X. It will pulse when the notification arrives. After that it will pulse every few minutes, in an adaptive time period - the longer you don't pick it up, the period between pulses will increase.
And of course custom rom's will be able to tweak this, I hope.
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Ambient display on N6 works similar to Moto X. It will pulse when the notification arrives. After that it will pulse every few minutes, in an adaptive time period - the longer you don't pick it up, the period between pulses will increase.
And of course custom rom's will be able to tweak this, I hope.
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This sounds perfect. Do you have a source for this or speculation?
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This sounds perfect. Do you have a source for this or speculation?
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Its from the AndroidPolice hands on which is one of the most detailed ones.
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Its from the AndroidPolice hands on which is one of the most detailed ones.
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Are you referring to this article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
I don't see anything about Active Display there...
Does anyone know if it has the IR sensors on the screen to wake the display up with a hand gesture just like it happens on the Moto X?
dualityim said:
Are you referring to this article: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-googles-nexus-6-really-big-really-beautiful/
I don't see anything about Active Display there...
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Yes. It's in the comments, the author replied to a question about Active Display.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
Droid Life showing a video of the notifications. I can see why the battery savings aren't as big as they would be on Active Display
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TyhaOjME5g
Droid Life showing a video of the notifications. I can see why the battery savings aren't as big as they would be on Active Display
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Seems very unreliable, he had to try multiple times. Also why is pick up to activate so unreliable?
I really wish they'd copied the Moto version and added the sensors.
this seems like it will just nuke the battery in comparison to an LED.... I may end up just leaving this off.
won't this turn on constantly in a pocket as well?
This right here pisses me off
Sick of this damn call timer when trying to use other apps during a call.
Although that there isnt the main reason why I'm getting rid of this phone, I'll go ahead and add it to the ever growing list of reasons why I'm dumping it and getting a Nexus 6. Screw LG and their locked down pile of garbage. Sad thing is, it's so much wasted potential.
I love it when a new device comes out, and XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts about "this" or "that" which users say they 'hate' or 'can't stand'. Okay, so there's no publicized root method yet, deemed safe for consumerism, but once that's released I'm sure that every little quarky nuance will have a method to remove, hide, or alter in some way. The call timer has an option for hiding in the LG G3 via G3 Tweaksbox. With that example, I stand confident that this phone will have some type of similarities to, as I mentioned, "deal" with the things people complain about. Fact is, this phone is not impressively different from the G3, and there are no real profoundly engineered improvements made in the G4. You may ask, "Apex, y u bye did fone den?" Good question. My answer is this, I like LG's products and I appreciate the work developers are able to do, in order to make something good, great. So, in the meamtime, until root is available, you won't hear me having a hissy fit about (insert whatever) things. Samsung isn't for me, HTC is bunk, Motorola, well... been there, done that. I think most folks would respect those complaints be made on Reddit, or somewhere besides the place that developers afford us the grace of enjoying what they do for the community, free of charge.
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Although that there isnt the main reason why I'm getting rid of this phone, I'll go ahead and add it to the ever growing list of reasons why I'm dumping it and getting a Nexus 6. Screw LG and their locked down pile of garbage. Sad thing is, it's so much wasted potential.
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locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
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locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
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TWRP now too.. ROMS will be flowing soon.
Meh, I left the steaming pile of hardware failures that is a Nexus 6 for the G4. Volume rockers stopped working on the first one, new phone had screen issues, ya, the N6 isn't the greatest phone ever.
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locked down how? seems pretty rooted to me
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It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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Angry much?
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It sure was when I posted, or did you not see the date of the Op? Yay, you got root on a phone that should have been unlocked in the first place.
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Because clicking a check box to unlock the bootloader is so hard. Root takes time on all modern devices.
Hahaha... Now root being available, I've installed debloated ROM and 3000mah battery serves me really well. Not to mention boost in speed as well. On stock ROM, I was missing my nexus 5 so much.
I hope you stuck around for a little longer. Feels like beasty phone just got injected with the steroid.
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Agreed....I was fed up with this phone.....root came and glory glory amen it's a better phone. Even with just a simple debloated ROM....can't wait till they really tweak the stock ROM like crazy. I probably won't go aosp....because of the camera app...whole reason I bought the phone...it deletes the side car RAW file in the default gallery aosp can't do that...neither can manual camera app or Fv5
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The thermal throttling and stuff needs some crazy tweaking...and a better kernel...my apps have to re draw too much...memory leak somewhere
Kingaries79 said:
This right here pisses me off
Sick of this damn call timer when trying to use other apps during a call.
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I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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this is gold. i dont have a tmobile version, but thanks!!! ahh boo the side effect to this is that when someone calls, you dont see the answer/decline dialog and the notification bar doesnt work
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this is gold. i dont have a tmobile version, but thanks!!! ahh boo the side effect to this is that when someone calls, you dont see the answer/decline dialog and the notification bar doesnt work
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I checked and I still get the dialog box, make sure the option is checked in the call settings. I'm not sure what you mean about the notification bar, but I can drag down and click on the call, which brings me back to the call.
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I'm not sure if you figured it out, but since we have root, you can download app ops from play store. Go to the phone section and disable draw on top. It will stop the timer. And so far I have not noticed anything wrong.
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Thanks for this
Seems like a really silly reason to get rid of an otherwise awesome phone...
What's funny is that the current root methods as dangerous as they are. Are no more dangerous then when I had my Evo4g, and that team didn't have something like "OEM Unlock" to make it easier. No risk, no reward.
Not to mention that you can drag that icon anywhere on the screen so i dont see how it can be so intrucive during other app usage. Also why dont you just talk on the phone, your on a call, pay attention and stop playing with other apps, real easy
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I love it when a new device comes out, and XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts about "this" or "that" which users say they 'hate' or 'can't stand'. Okay, so there's no publicized root method yet, deemed safe for consumerism, but once that's released I'm sure that every little quarky nuance will have a method to remove, hide, or alter in some way. The call timer has an option for hiding in the LG G3 via G3 Tweaksbox. With that example, I stand confident that this phone will have some type of similarities to, as I mentioned, "deal" with the things people complain about. Fact is, this phone is not impressively different from the G3, and there are no real profoundly engineered improvements made in the G4. You may ask, "Apex, y u bye did fone den?" Good question. My answer is this, I like LG's products and I appreciate the work developers are able to do, in order to make something good, great. So, in the meamtime, until root is available, you won't hear me having a hissy fit about (insert whatever) things. Samsung isn't for me, HTC is bunk, Motorola, well... been there, done that. I think most folks would respect those complaints be made on Reddit, or somewhere besides the place that developers afford us the grace of enjoying what they do for the community, free of charge.
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your point is?
Would you be so kind as to elaborate on
XDA becomes riddled with whiney posts
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