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Hi!
I've been reading alot on this forum and im very intersted in the S730, and by reading your posts here the majority seems to think the s730 is a great phone, but noone has said anything considering the video-driver issue in tytnII, whether its a problem in the s730 too?, So how is the video playbak in s730, is it possible to watch a 320x240 movie or TV-series, because i always downsize my shows to 320x240 will i not have any problems?, i currently have an Dell axim x30 which i often use to listen to music or watch movies and it has a 624Mhz processor which gives me smooth video playback, and would hate myself if i bought the s730 and the video playback would be lagging in 320x240...
And also, how is the call quality? is it clear and is the sim-card automatically set up?
thanks in advance...
/Johan
Watching 320x240 is no problem. CorePlayer (TCPMP) handles it well, all is smooth, the cpu power is enough up to 30 - 33 FPS (MPEG-4 ASP, 300 - 400 kbit/s).
What program are you using to downsize the videos?
They way I am currently doing it is too slow
However video playback is perfect. Even with the full resolution video's it only studders on the video and my audio is solid. (core player as well)
Thanks for the answers, and im pleased to hear that watching videos on th S730 is smooth. I'll probably go for this phone, and hope that you guys continue finding good ways of maximizing the performance in the phone!
An btw when I downsize my series or movies i often use pocketdivxencoder found here http://www.pocketdivxencoder.net/ . But most of the videos i downsize are Family guy and American Dad so im not really sure on how the result of a real movie would be, but i guess if you maximize both the video and audio quality , you would still end up with a reasonable small file with nice quality!
But to my other question, is the call quality good? in other words does it perform well as a phone?, and i read about the memory leak which i hope will get fixed, but will it cause any trouble if i listen to music via the bluetooth A2DP profile when not using any other programs?
Cool, filesize isnt a problem with my 6gb sd card. I'll play with it. My way works but too much hassle.
My old phone was not very good, so I cant speak too much about call quality. I find its very good overall, I had one occation where my connection was bad (kinda remote location with 1 bar signal) and the person on the other end said I was full of static, did clear up though.
Thats the only issue I have had. The earpiece speaker volume could go up a little higher but I have never had problems not being able to understand people.
i used TCPMP with mine, and the 400mhz makes a huge difference
i barely have to convert any video now when i'm watching my shows (usually in 700x200 or something like that)
with steady framerate and quality
if it starts to stutter or slowdown, i just turn the quality a bit lower in the player and it plays back just fine
yeap
Ic watched normal divx's on the phone, so yeah its very good
Ive dumped android and Looking at choosing a WP8 between HTC 8X / Ativ S / Lumia 920. Not interested in anything below 1 GB Ram, 16GB storage.. 32 or more is better.
I use my phone for Music / Photos and a few apps like Weave (WP8 version of Flipboard) and some minor customisation apps.
What Ive heard is:
Ativ S has very low almost inaudible ringtone and sound volume, average to poor camera, still on Pentile blueish OMLED display, No samsung support, so no apps but excellent music player (Wolfson sound chip), syncs perfectly with PC and Media centres no issues/ removable battery (good but not essential) and an SD card slot / sparse
Nokia 920.. really buggy broken Nokia music player, Sync to PC with media player issues, erratic and poor battery power (discharges for no reason), but amazing camera, lots of Nokia exclusive and useful apps, bigger 32GB storage Great 4.5" screen.
HTC 8X... 4.3" is a bit small for me, but would go back if phone was fantastic, just 16GB or storage, erratic battery, average camera.
Can anyone help me out with these points, are they true, and which should I look at.
Thanks
NightOrchid said:
Ive dumped android and Looking at choosing a WP8 between HTC 8X / Ativ S / Lumia 920. Not interested in anything below 1 GB Ram, 16GB storage.. 32 or more is better.
I use my phone for Music / Photos and a few apps like Weave (WP8 version of Flipboard) and some minor customisation apps.
What Ive heard is:
Ativ S has very low almost inaudible ringtone and sound volume, average to poor camera, still on Pentile blueish OMLED display, No samsung support, so no apps but excellent music player (Wolfson sound chip), syncs perfectly with PC and Media centres no issues/ removable battery (good but not essential) and an SD card slot / sparse
Nokia 920.. really buggy broken Nokia music player, Sync to PC with media player issues, erratic and poor battery power (discharges for no reason), but amazing camera, lots of Nokia exclusive and useful apps, bigger 32GB storage Great 4.5" screen.
HTC 8X... 4.3" is a bit small for me, but would go back if phone was fantastic, just 16GB or storage, erratic battery, average camera.
Can anyone help me out with these points, are they true, and which should I look at.
Thanks
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I'd actually pick whichever one has the best deal right now are you getting a new plan or an upgrade? I'd personally just wait for the Nokia 1020. Either that or one with Micro SD.
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of all your options i would suggest the 8x i have it and think its great games are smooth camera is pretty good beats audio is amazing or you can wait for the 1020
Thanks for the replies, appreciated , Im actually 6 months into a 2 year contract with EE, so ide just be swapping my S3 LTE for one of them. I looked at the 1020 and the 8X. Both look great and Samsung is just Samsung.. works with every thing any codec any app.
I like 8X but it would mean dropping from 4.8 to 4.3 screen, but plus side.. No blue-y pentile AMOLED. Im a big fan of Beats.. the sound chip not the crappy headphones (I use Sonnheiser buds anyway).
Theres just too many issues with the 920 for comfort, or I could keep my S3 and pick up a cheap 2nd hand 8x or 8s.
Ill probably go 8X for the camera and screen.. but anymore help would be appreciated.
Cheers
ATIV S has the largest screen and the largest battery (even though it's removable) while still managing to be one of the thinnest WP models. The camera is good for a phone but nothing special the way the 920's camera is. I have no trouble hearing the ringtone, but I keep the volume up when not on headphones. Sound quality is nothing amazing but is certainly adequate for a non-audiophile. It's also the only high-end WP8 device with an SD slot; the value of 80GB of phone storage is incredible for people with large music/video collections. I can atttest to the fact that support from Samsung is meh, but there have been firmware updates released and the OEM apps (things like call blocking and other such utility/feature apps in addition to the general stocks/weather/notes/whatever apps) are updated regularly.
The music player and syncing are using the same software on all WP8 devices so you won't see a difference in supported Codecs on any of them. A Nokia and a Samsung will be exactlly the same in that regard. The display on the Ativ S is the same as on the SGS3 which in both cases means PenTile AMOLED.
The Ativ S unfortunately is the only one of the phones mentioned that does not provide an Equalizer or anything else to improve sound over headphones. You get an Equalizer + Beats on the 8X or Equalizer + Dolby Headphone on the 920/820/925/1020.
As for battery life: the Ativ S will last you definitely longer than the Lumia 920 (the difference is bigger than the 300 mAh difference leads you to believe. At least in my usage and I have both the 920 and the Ativ S.
NightOrchid said:
Nokia 920.. really buggy broken Nokia music player, Sync to PC with media player issues, erratic and poor battery power (discharges for no reason), but amazing camera, lots of Nokia exclusive and useful apps, bigger 32GB storage Great 4.5" screen.
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Besides a buggy whatsapp app (which has been fixed by now) my Lumia 920 has had no problems with the battery what so ever. I am just about to plug it in after 36hrs of usage. The speakers in the 920 are great and the camera is good as well.
I prefer the Nokia music player over the default one. At first it stopped remembering playlists etc, but after a few updates (and now whatsapp doesnt abuse music api anymore) I have no problems with it at all. The Nokia exclusive apps should be the main reason to go with them, so an 820 with replaceable battery and SD card slot could be a good choice as well. I don't use sync to PC so can't help you on that.
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...820 with replaceable battery and SD card slot could be a good choice as well...
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Got an 820 about a week ago, an am very happy with it. Somewhat inferior camera compared to 920 but otherwise it's very comparable and feels much smaller.
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Got an 820 about a week ago, an am very happy with it. Somewhat inferior camera compared to 920 but otherwise it's very comparable and feels much smaller.
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The reason I chose the 920 over an 820 was the screen brightness and quality. I loved the design of the 820 more (even though I've grown quite fond of my 920's design) but the screen on the 920 was looking a lot better when I compared them in the store. I've heard other people say the prefer the 820 screen over the 920 though, because of the better display of black so it's just personal preference.
I chose the samsung ativ s for LTE support on TMO. It is the thinnest phone, the sd card support is huge in my book and I love the screen. Pentile or no pentile. I have had no problem finding accessories for it off of amazon - currently sporting a jcase on it. I have seen both the 8x and 920 and they just seemed bigger. I don't have a problem with the ringtones, the speaker phone is a tad low for my tastes.
All that being said - if music is your thing - I would avoid a win8 phone until they fix how to make a playlist. OMG is it frustrating. You need a degree just to figure it out.
Right now for Windows Phone, a Nokia device is the way to go. With all the support the carrier has thrown behind Windows Phone, there is just no other choice. All the exclusive Nokia apps and functionality, the awesome camera on the 920 (and the 1020), and just the general excellent support that Nokia has given WP/Microsoft, its difficult to go with anyone else at this point.
Nokia Music is an app on Nokia devices that is optional. You don't have to use it if you don't like it. I haven't heard any complaints about it, more praise than anything. Windows Phone has a music player built in, and if you are referring to that player being buggy, then its the same on every device, as that is a built-in Windows Phone system app and is no different on any other device from any manufacturer.
Sync to PC is also exactly the same for any Windows Phone device. So if one phone is having issues, you can experience similar issues between all devices from any manufacturer. That being said, the PC software to sync is mostly to blame, as its pretty terrible, but will be updated as time goes on. You can always use mass storage mode to sync media if you choose to, you don't have to use the Windows Phone desktop software.
Battery issues can be found on all devices. Personally I have had great luck with my Lumia 920, providing enough battery power to last me through the day. As with any operating system, the biggest factor in battery life is apps. Everyone uses different apps, and some know how to manage their power usage, while others eat up electricity like its going out of style. Games especially take their toll on Windows Phones, but in most cases, I hear good things about the 920's battery management.
Agree in nokia, except for the lack of SD, nokia is the way to go,
but wait for the 1020 or go for the 925 the weigth of the 920 is not worth unless you are using the wireless power charge.
Lumia.
NightOrchid said:
Ive dumped android and Looking at choosing a WP8 between HTC 8X / Ativ S / Lumia 920. Not interested in anything below 1 GB Ram, 16GB storage.. 32 or more is better.
I use my phone for Music / Photos and a few apps like Weave (WP8 version of Flipboard) and some minor customisation apps.
What Ive heard is:
Ativ S has very low almost inaudible ringtone and sound volume, average to poor camera, still on Pentile blueish OMLED display, No samsung support, so no apps but excellent music player (Wolfson sound chip), syncs perfectly with PC and Media centres no issues/ removable battery (good but not essential) and an SD card slot / sparse
Nokia 920.. really buggy broken Nokia music player, Sync to PC with media player issues, erratic and poor battery power (discharges for no reason), but amazing camera, lots of Nokia exclusive and useful apps, bigger 32GB storage Great 4.5" screen.
HTC 8X... 4.3" is a bit small for me, but would go back if phone was fantastic, just 16GB or storage, erratic battery, average camera.
Can anyone help me out with these points, are they true, and which should I look at.
Thanks
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My advice is: buy a Lumia.
Great camera, high quality materials and Nokia have a big support for his smartphone (all camera's app, Amber update, ecc)
I suppose the ATIV S external speaker could be louder, but it's not quiet. I usually have no problem hearing my phone, and can even play music to a (relatively) quiet room using it. The rear camera is not up to Lumia 920 quality, much less 1020 quality, but it's not bad. The front camera is actually much better than on any Lumia I've seen yet. The display is pentile AMOLED, but the resolution is so high that I have no problem with it, and I haven't observed it to be "blueish". Samsung support was late coming - the phone's firmware shipped with some pretty bad bugs - but there was a firmware update shipped along with GDR2 that fixed most issues for me. The Samsung apps list, while less impressive than the Nokia one, isn't terrible and includes some cool stuff (like app folders) that the others don't have. It's also possible to install apps from other OEMs anyhow. The built-in Diagnosis app is easy to access and includes some cool stuff like wired tethering (gets around most tethering restrictions). The battery is not only removable, it's also larger than that of any other WP8 device.
Hello! One of the One's biggest selling points for me was the quality of audio/video it has been shown to capture, even at very loud concerts. I go to concerts whenever I have the time, and only lately decided to try recording some video with the phone. What I got (link below) was just a mess.
However, I'm running the Google Play edition ROM, which nukes the stock Sense camera software in favor of the stock Android 4.3 camera app. I was wondering if anyone could offer some insight. Could I expect the same poor level of audio and video quality with the stock Sense camera? There's no seemingly-soundboard quality audio depth, just tons of clipping (i.e. 4:00 - 4:15). There's no bass, either (bass drum starting at 4:23). Also, the auto-focus is on the fritz the entire time due to low lighting, with no way to lock it in the GPe ROM.
Please ignore the first two minutes or so (just skip to 4:00.) I must've been grazing/covering one of the mics. One thing I will give this phone credit for is its OIS -- I was being bopped around by the crowd for a majority of this video, and it is amazingly still for the most part.
Here's the video link WARNING: POTENTIALLY LOUD SOUND AND LOTS OF STATIC! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrpbCZ8Kirk
Thanks in advance!
ericiidx said:
Hello! One of the One's biggest selling points for me was the quality of audio/video it has been shown to capture, even at very loud concerts. I go to concerts whenever I have the time, and only lately decided to try recording some video with the phone. What I got (link below) was just a mess.
However, I'm running the Google Play edition ROM, which nukes the stock Sense camera software in favor of the stock Android 4.3 camera app. I was wondering if anyone could offer some insight. Could I expect the same poor level of audio and video quality with the stock Sense camera? There's no seemingly-soundboard quality audio depth, just tons of clipping (i.e. 4:00 - 4:15). There's no bass, either (bass drum starting at 4:23). Also, the auto-focus is on the fritz the entire time due to low lighting, with no way to lock it in the GPe ROM.
Please ignore the first two minutes or so (just skip to 4:00.) I must've been grazing/covering one of the mics. One thing I will give this phone credit for is its OIS -- I was being bopped around by the crowd for a majority of this video, and it is amazingly still for the most part.
Here's the video link WARNING: POTENTIALLY LOUD SOUND AND LOTS OF STATIC! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrpbCZ8Kirk
Thanks in advance!
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How's the GPE ROM working out for you? I'm on the stock ROM and no distortion, but looking to switch to the GPE ROM
Does anybody have this issue when recording a video in say a concert, night club or even your car with loud music on.. the video will playback fine.. however the audio will be really distorted and you can literally hear nothing but fuzz and base.
The Huawei p9 plus has been my first android phone from Apple in the last 4 years, and really like everything about it.. would be a shame if this was an issue that could not be resolved, i had read somewhere online it's due to the huawei having 2 microphones ...
Any help is appreciated
I'm sorry to disappoint you. While my Note 4 made pretty decent video recordings (sound wise) my P9+ is horrible and absolutely useless for recording live music. I haven't found a solution yet other than moving away from the music...about half a mile
My P9plus VIE L09 records audio WONDERFULLY ! It's almost on par with Nokia 808 Pureview, which is fantastic. Audio is recorded undistorted even if you put the smartphone against high levels of sound (close to a loudspeaker for example). I tested and it is really great.
Strange, very strange. I stopped using my P9+ in loud places because of the terrible audio quality. I had my device send in to a Huawei service center. They returned it saying nothing was wrong.
I added a file to demonstrate the distortion in a loud place. It's a zipped mp4 file.
P9plus recording @ over 100 dB
I put the phone at 10 cm in front of one loud (over 100 dB) loudspeaker(Studio monitor JBL LSR 4326) with top microphone to the tweeter and bottom to the woofer, centered in the middle on axis. I could easily go higher in level but already hurt my ears next to the speaker, it was very loud. There is absolutely no distortion. Recorded with stock Huawei's recorder (.mp4 16 bit 48KHz). Sound recorded on camera videos are the same (very clear, detailed and no, no distortion).
Phone stock firmware, VIE L09.
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I put the phone at 10 cm in front of one loud (over 100 dB) loudspeaker(Studio monitor JBL LSR 4326) with top microphone to the tweeter and bottom to the woofer, centered in the middle on axis. I could easily go higher in level but already hurt my ears next to the speaker, it was very loud. There is absolutely no distortion. Recorded with stock Huawei's recorder (.mp4 16 bit 48KHz). Sound recorded on camera videos are the same (very clear, detailed and no, no distortion).
Phone stock firmware, VIE L09.
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it is like a studio recording )
i will try live record thursday in studio (with my band) and upload here.
Yes, very good mics in P9plus. That song was a compressed mp3 and speakers yelling loud but recording is good and not distorted. You can use your smartphone for interviews for example with very good results. Outdoor it picks up wind but as a trick you can wrap the smartphone in one microfiber cloth and, voila, wind removal (only for audio, not video)
@raduverdes, sound distortion in concerts is very often related to bass levels. Your track contains almost no low-mid and bass, it's mid's an high's and that's probably the reason why it sounds good. In the EW&F track is a lot of bass and combined with the high volume the recordings on my p9+ sound very bad.
@Ce Your (very very short) sample recording is very saturated and distorted. I compared Huawei p9 plus mics with Nokia 808 Pureview (with it's Nokia rich recording technology, supporting sound pressure up to 140 dB according to Nokia) and Huawei keeps up very well against my 808 Pureview, almost as good. Nokia 808 is probably(i'd say, surely) the best audio recorder in the smartphone world so I'm very happy with output quality of Huawei P9 plus. Huawei supports very high levels of pressure without breaking a sweat, similarly to Nokia 808. Recordings are very clean and clear for a mobile phone.
I highly recommend you don't stay in very very very loud places if you want to keep your hearing. Don't listen to music (speakers /headphones) over 80-85 dB for long periods of time. I earn my living with my ears and probably the last thing I want is to go deaf.
You probably don't get better sound recording from a smartphone at the moment, it's way better than iPhone 6s, Samsung S7, LG G5, Xiaomi or whatever flagship smartphone, I listen to lots of audio samples on YouTube before purchasing my P9plus.
Sample recording P9plus @ Grado SR80e & Samsung Tab S 10.5
Here is a sample recording using Grado headphones feed by Samsung tablet (no amp but at max volume) ; stock recorder app, mp4, 128kbps, 48KHz. A little too much mids and highs, I know but you get the image. I think it's very good for a smartphone.
At 1:40 I received a message on my tablet
I made a video test recording at INSANE level (I think over 120 dB) very close to the speaker and yes, it's awful, distorted. I don't want to be in such loud place for sure. At 1-1,5 meters away (~105-110 dB sound level) recording is good, undistorted . So, I'd say Huawei P9plus is wonderful /good in normal to LOUD places and bad/unusable in INSANE, STUPID LOUD places. It's smart enough not recording stupid things.
Hi!
I'm very interested in this thread. I'm just trying to find a successor for my HTC M8, years ago the only android phone that could handle loud sound recordings.
I found this video of Huawei p9 (one of my favorites), and I really impressed about the quality (powerful bass by FunktionOne speakers)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hAiQplKXls
BUT, reading your comments I'm not sure if this video is true, especially after watching this video of one of you. It's horrible!!!!!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=69942999&postcount=4
Maybe some software update??? If someone can confirm that the quality of the first video it's true, tomorrow I'll buy the P9 :laugh:
Thanks!!!
Hello, new S21 Ultra (Exynos) owner here.
I and my mate are doing a video podcast of sorts and were eager to select the best video setting on my new S21 Ultra - resolution, FPS, wide or main camera etc. We shot some with his Galaxy A71 for control purposes and played our samples back on his Samsung 4K TV. And as the video quality on the S21 Ultra was in most cases better (not much on the wide-angle, it had decent detail but was grainy), the microphone levels were considerably lower than those on the A71.
The quality was there, the details also, but the overall sound was way more silent and the bass/treble was nearly non-existent compared to the ones on the other device.
We started trying to change different settings on my phone with no effect. It's not an S21 Ultra playback issue, as I sent a video to his phone to stream it to the TV from there and the difference persisted.
Compared to a video on my wife's Samsung M31 the difference is also the same.
I did not discover any particular microphone settings other than the zoom-in mic, which made no difference turned off or on. Can it be some other app using the microphone and screwing up its performance? I really hoped that the sound captured on the S21 Ultra would be impressive and not at all sub-par.
Use the pro video mode, there you can change what mics to use....front, back or both or external mic
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Use the pro video mode, there you can change what mics to use....front, back or both or external mic
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It works OK by adding 10db to the sound level, but yet I didn't need to use this mode on the other devices. Hopefully the may update will improve this issue. At least it doesn't seem to be hardware related.