Hey guys, I have this phone for half a month and it's awesome! So now, I'm on a dillema:
Should I root and lose my warranty or not?
I've heard that this "KNOX" thing is permament.
Right now it says:
"KNOX WARRANTY VOID : 0"
I'm pretty sure that if I do try to root , it'll change to " 1 "
What do you think?
Thanks!
George Brellas said:
Hey guys, I have this phone for half a month and it's awesome! So now, I'm on a dillema:
Should I root and lose my warranty or not?
I've heard that this "KNOX" thing is permament.
Right now it says:
"KNOX WARRANTY VOID : 0"
I'm pretty sure that if I do try to root , it'll change to " 1 "
What do you think?
Thanks!
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afaik on the gs3 we have bin count reseter for that, but im not fully sure.
and for me, if you need to ask wether or not root is worth, then you dont need to root
He who is afraid of bears, not going to the forest.
opssemnik said:
afaik on the gs3 we have bin count reseter for that, but im not fully sure.
and for me, if you need to ask wether or not root is worth, then you dont need to root
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All my other devices are rooted...
Still, that stupid Knox made me not want to do it.
Who cares, I still did it (even though now my warranty is supposedly void)
You can reset the knox counter and go to the service center. I've done it in my note 2 they didn't notice or have any issues
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Anyone know how you get rid off that "root" text that stands on info about the phone?
GroundVersion: ------ and then it comes. [email protected]
Mean even if you reflash rom and so and you not got Root it still there, not good i guess if you need to send it in.
Ariozo said:
Anyone know how you get rid off that "root" text that stands on info about the phone?
GroundVersion: ------ and then it comes. [email protected]
Mean even if you reflash rom and so and you not got Root it still there, not good i guess if you need to send it in.
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If my memory didn't fail me, its the original from the firmware.
Rooting your phone or not doesn't change that line.
Pretty sure it can be changed in build.prop
this line tells about the building [email protected] where the rom was cooked and has nothing to do with having root or not. and yes, it can be changed in build.prop
Can someone post a tutorial to "un-root" the phone?
Thing is rooting voids warranty and if I need to send it back to repair I don't wanna loose my warranty :S
Rooting really voids the warranty? Damn, and I was about to do just that. Not worth the risk, yet. Thanks for the heads up!
I'm very new to all this so kindly overlook my noobness......
I Rooted my Galaxy S I9000 using Superoneclick v1.9.5, I have not installed any custom firmware ..now I need to UN-Root my fone because the loudspeaker has stopped working and I need to claim warranty, I don't want to give them any excuses to say that my warranty is void cuz I rooted the fone...Kindly guide me please...Thankyou
krazy_kh said:
I'm very new to all this so kindly overlook my noobness......
I Rooted my Galaxy S I9000 using Superoneclick v1.9.5, I have not installed any custom firmware ..now I need to UN-Root my fone because the loudspeaker has stopped working and I need to claim warranty, I don't want to give them any excuses to say that my warranty is void cuz I rooted the fone...Kindly guide me please...Thankyou
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Well, Superoneclick has got "Unroot" button..
Do it and then factory reset your phone.
Will be enough I guess.
theos0o said:
Well, Superoneclick has got "Unroot" button..
Do it and then factory reset your phone.
Will be enough I guess.
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like I said, such a noob I am, didn't even see the Unroot button....thanks
Hello,
I followed this thread to root my phone. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2186368
Then i installed this custom recovery http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187363
Then i wanted to overclock using this kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2172888
But my phone need's unlocked bootloader in order to do this. (and i don't want to unlock it)
Any kernel that allow overclock with locked bootloader ?
Thanks
Im afraid not,AFAIK there is only one kernel that allows overclocking,and that is the DoomKernel by the awesome DoomLord
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Then i'll wait a way to unlock bootloader without loosing warrantly thanks
Poustic said:
Then i'll wait a way to unlock bootloader without loosing warrantly thanks
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You will be waiting for a looong time. No one has managed to get the DRM keys back after relocking the bootloader.
Poustic said:
Then i'll wait a way to unlock bootloader without loosing warrantly thanks
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You may actually want to have a good read of the terms and conditions of the Sony website for unlocking. It doesn't specifically mention that it breaks your warranty. It states that if your phone is send back for repair, it has to be on stock firmware. IF you are unable to do this they will charge you a service fee to have a technician repair the software (I'm guessing J-tagging or something more professional?). They do mention the fee for that was expensive. So basically if say for example you permanently lost radio (signal) because of a hardware issue that you in no way caused by flashing some ROM or tweak that messes with the drivers for that, it should be fine. It's a hardware thing - you didn't cause it. If you hardbrick your device and they have to bring it back from the dead, they'll charge you. If you overclock it like a mofo and burn out the CPU they will likely charge you for the initial software flash and charge you again for either repair/replacement of the logic board or complete phone.
That's the gist of it from memory. There may of course be some little clause or something that they could get out of it if they wanted that I skimmed too quickly, but you'd probably find if it's a genuine problem from them they would repair it. If you'd clearly messed with it and stuffed it, they wouldn't. Sounds like a normal warranty to me
EDIT: just had a quick gander at it again and here we go "Please note that you may void the warranty of your device and/or any warranty from your operator if you unlock the boot loader". I think the key word from that would be "may".
and also " In addition, if you brick the device, it is your own responsibility. " The same thing could be said with a locked bootloader and you stuffed something up trying to root it or hack it in some other way.
ROMAur allows to to change the cpu speed, how well this works is another thing. I have heard somewhere that there is some type of throttling within the standard kernel which still prevents the phone reaching the full potential, but custom kernel gets around this.
I have rechecked this and they have removed the overclock in the downloadable version
danw_oz said:
I have rechecked this and they have removed the overclock in the downloadable version
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So where i can get the overclock version please ? Cause in the official thread look's like it was removed indeed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2167064
Poustic said:
So where i can get the overclock version please ? Cause in the official thread look's like it was removed indeed http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2167064
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I will have a look to see if I still have that version
Thank you i wonder why they removed it :silly:
Poustic said:
Thank you i wonder why they removed it :silly:
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Probably because it didn't work properly, I have had a look and just cleaned those up about 5 days ago, on all my devices
My wife just got a brand new ATT S5 running 4.4.4
I just wanted to give her the cleanest slate to start with before she starts loading it up with apps and whateve other junk she might do.
Any advice best route to do it? Would you still flash recovery and root?
Thanks for any tips.
AT&T has a locked bootloader, so you can't flash a custom recovery...Your best bet is to downgrade to a rootable kernel, get root...Then follow the process all the way to lollipop and debloat after. At least that's how I understand it.
Thanks for the reply. Any idea if there's a good thread that explains how best to do all that?
Dillsnik said:
Thanks for the reply. Any idea if there's a good thread that explains how best to do all that?
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Here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=58621872
There's absolutely no point in rooting that phone if your wife is a normal user. It will only leave the door open for things to become messed up.
Disable whichever bloat apps you know she is uninterested in, and leave it at that.
I usually freeze apps with TB...how would you do it with no root?
Dillsnik said:
I usually freeze apps with TB...how would you do it with no root?
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Quite a bit of it can be disabled(same as freezing) from the stock app manager. Just click on the app and hit disable.
If you do go the rooting route, you might as well install a solid debloated rom, and then remove root after it's set up. That would best accomplish your goal re: cleanest slate possible
Swimguy14 said:
If you do go the rooting route, you might as well install a solid debloated rom, and then remove root after it's set up. That would best accomplish your goal re: cleanest slate possible
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Make sure to do your research on ROMs. Your new S5 has a 12 month warranty which gets voided if the KNOX bit is tripped, which installing non official ROMs may do. Once it is tripped, there isn't a way to go back.
YasharF said:
Make sure to do your research on ROMs. Your new S5 has a 12 month warranty which gets voided if the KNOX bit is tripped, which installing non official ROMs may do.
**********Once it is tripped, there isn't a way to go back**************.
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That last part is not true at all, Knox can be fairly easily reset in the event a warranty claim needs to be made. Please don't give out misinformation!
Swimguy14 said:
That last part is not true at all, Knox can be fairly easily reset in the event a warranty claim needs to be made. Please don't give out misinformation!
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That is actually false, while the flash counter can be reset knox will remain 0x1 if you trip it, its an efuse so it physically changes the board when you trip. That said theres no way on a g900a to trip it as the only way to trip it is not flashing unofficial roms but booting into an unofficial recovery like twrp or cwm which we cant do.
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Rakuu said:
That is actually false, while the flash counter can be reset knox will remain 0x1 if you trip it, its an efuse so it physically changes the board when you trip. That said theres no way on a g900a to trip it as the only way to trip it is not flashing unofficial roms but booting into an unofficial recovery like twrp or cwm which we cant do.
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Interesting...I did not know this.
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Swimguy14 said:
That last part is not true at all, Knox can be fairly easily reset in the event a warranty claim needs to be made. Please don't give out misinformation!
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Can you provide citation that it can be "easily reset"? See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2738175&page=34 stating that once the knox warranty void is 0x1 there is no going back.
Thanks
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That is actually false, while the flash counter can be reset knox will remain 0x1 if you trip it, its an efuse so it physically changes the board when you trip. That said theres no way on a g900a to trip it as the only way to trip it is not flashing unofficial roms but booting into an unofficial recovery like twrp or cwm which we cant do.
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Quoted for truth
Sorry for being a moron
So I did some testing on this and it worked. Totally worked. Root without tripping KNOX. I did not develop this at all. Just trying to spread the word! Check it out!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s6/general/root-pingpongroot-s6-root-tool-t3103016
Oooo. Really. I have to try this now.
Maqical said:
Oooo. Really. I have to try this now.
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Don't forget custom recoveries will probably still trip knox. I'm holing off on rooting until a few more people do it successfully without tripping knox.
Awesome. Now I kinda wish I had held out for something like this.
Used this method to gain root, worked perfectly fine. Knox still says 0x0, booting into recovery displays "dm-verity verification failed in recovery" but I'm not 100% sure what this means.
Sturos said:
Used this method to gain root, worked perfectly fine. Knox still says 0x0, booting into recovery displays "dm-verity verification failed in recovery" but I'm not 100% sure what this means.
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Looks like dm-verity has to do with Verified Boot https://source.android.com/devices/tech/security/verifiedboot/index.html
Worked first try
Can you root then completely un root when samsung pay comes out?
maxjivi05 said:
Can you root then completely un root when samsung pay comes out?
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Odin should take care of the unrooting needs
maxjivi05 said:
Can you root then completely un root when samsung pay comes out?
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For what I hear this one does not affect samsung pay since it does not trip KNOX meaning your phone has not become breached. But I wait till someone with more info answer
Jonwi5 said:
For what I hear this one does not affect samsung pay since it does not trip KNOX meaning your phone has not become breached. But I wait till someone with more info answer
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I can almost guarantee they will have a root check for samsung pay to work. It will also most likely be easy to get around.
ThePagel said:
I can almost guarantee they will have a root check for samsung pay to work. It will also most likely be easy to get around.
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I agree and hope is like you say, but since I'm in Puerto Rico where everything get implemented later much later than US, I will not rush to try to use it here and in my case root has much more value since I can assure you much like 90% of major retailers wont have trained personal or will know what samsung pay is.
He I first remembered when I try to use my chip card and the employee was like, How do I use this, when terminal clearly says on screen please insert chip.
Just curious if any T-Mobile guys have had any issues using this. Still have deep sleep? If it doesn't, and you flash stock recovery to fix it, will that trip knox? Any other issues this root method solves vs chainfires method that trips Knox? This may be a stupid question, but if you want to return to stock and unroot to get an OTA or whatever, flashing stock file from sammobile in Odin doesn't trip knox even though it rewrites the boot loader and installs the stock recovery? Thanks in advance
hs420 said:
Just curious if any T-Mobile guys have had any issues using this. Still have deep sleep? If it doesn't, and you flash stock recovery to fix it, will that trip knox? Any other issues this root method solves vs chainfires method that trips Knox? This may be a stupid question, but if you want to return to stock and unroot to get an OTA or whatever, flashing stock file from sammobile in Odin doesn't trip knox even though it rewrites the boot loader and installs the stock recovery? Thanks in advance
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I can answer one part of that question given I used this to root, I still have deep sleep. The only thing I did after rooting was wiping cache just in case I did have issues but I am unsure that was even needed.
I made a tutorial video for anyone that needs it:
http://youtu.be/eAQ4WBg9xj0
So quick question guys:
If I root the S6 with the new tool, it won't trip Knox?
Once its rooted, would I be able to replace the lock screen with the one from stock android and replace the dialer with the google dialer? I love stock experience but I wanted a premium device so I went with the S6.
Thanks.
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iPathik said:
So quick question guys:
If I root the S6 with the new tool, it won't trip Knox?
Once its rooted, would I be able to replace the lock screen with the one from stock android and replace the dialer with the google dialer? I love stock experience but I wanted a premium device so I went with the S6.
Thanks.
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It *by itself* will NOT trip Knox.
Yes you can change the dialer and lockscreen but they may not work properly. Keep in mind that if you mess something up, the ONLY way to boot again will be an ODIN flash. It is dangerous to root and start playing with things and having the stock recovery. One mess-up and it is full factory reset for you
qbking77 said:
I made a tutorial video for anyone that needs it:
http://youtu.be/eAQ4WBg9xj0
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Any chance on getting this working on the Metro PCS variant? It should be the same method as the T-mobile sm-g920t
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qbking77 said:
I made a tutorial video for anyone that needs it:
http://youtu.be/eAQ4WBg9xj0
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Thanks Tim, your videos are always super helpful and appreciated, good to see you here in the S6 forum.
Best wishes.
Pp. :thumbup:
Is this method a guarantee to not be bugged by the deep sleep issue? I know it's been awhile since anyone responded here, but I am just wondering.