Does new phone come with JB? If so should I stay with it and not to accept OTA?
It seems that Kitkat update introduced several issues (problem with email syncing, bluetooth incompatibility wit some cars, etc). Is there anything else? I am fine with not having the latest and greatest.
Also: is it possible to downgrade Moto X DE (GSM) back to JB? I am not 100% sure from reading this forum.
The kit Kat update had issues but nothing on the scale of the Samsung galaxy family's 4.3 update. I haven't noticed any issue on mine nor any on customers. Totally worth upgrading it.
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The only issue I am having with mine is that while it says its connected to web (either lte or wifi) it won't actually connect. A reboot fixes the issue until it comes back.
texanman said:
The only issue I am having with mine is that while it says its connected to web (either lte or wifi) it won't actually connect. A reboot fixes the issue until it comes back.
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Did you have this issue while on JB?
Dont know as mine came with 4.4 which did not have this weird issue. It may be something I installed so a wipe may be in order.
Go to KK, no question
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The only issue I had was Google maps not showing my direct location with high accuracy on. It was hard for me to distinguish if I needed to go right or left then it has a hard time rerouting. Which pissed my wife off lol.
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It will come with KitKat, and good luck not bricking the phone trying to downgrade it.
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Don't forget text reflow has been deprecated. Major loss in browsers and reading apps.
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Don't forget text reflow has been deprecated. Major loss in browsers and reading apps. Blink is in web view. Also means invert lost.
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eksasol said:
It will come with KitKat, and good luck not bricking the phone trying to downgrade it.
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Mine arrived with 4.2.2 installed, (2 weeks ago) and it took two updates to get to 4.4, 1'st 4.2.2 then 4.4. No regrets on the update for me, but then again I let the updates fly when I turned on the phone.
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It will come with KitKat, and good luck not bricking the phone trying to downgrade it.
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Just got my vzw DE wednesday, 2/12/2014. Came with 4.2.2 pre-camera update. soon as it booted it took the 4.2.2 camera update, then shortly after that came 4.4. did all the updates then unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted. happy as a clam!
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Just got my vzw DE wednesday, 2/12/2014. Came with 4.2.2 pre-camera update. soon as it booted it took the 4.2.2 camera update, then shortly after that came 4.4. did all the updates then unlocked the bootloader, installed twrp and rooted. happy as a clam!
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let me make this blunt before you even get your phone
your phone is a DE so you can root any version
is you come with 4.2.2 camera update or 4.4 you can upgrade and downgrade between thouse two versions only
if your phone comes with 4.4.2 you can not downgrade at all so just root it and enjoy because most people are trying to get there and bricking there phones half the time.
if you have any other question please post or PM me
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let me make this blunt before you even get your phone
your phone is a DE so you can root any version
is you come with 4.2.2 camera update or 4.4 you can upgrade and downgrade between thouse two versions only
if your phone comes with 4.4.2 you can not downgrade at all so just root it and enjoy because most people are trying to get there and bricking there phones half the time.
if you have any other question please post or PM me
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That makes it very clear. But can you elaborate on why downgrade from 4.4.2 is not possible? I currently use rooted Droid Incredible on Verizon with CM 7.1 and if I am not mistaken I can flash pretty much any previous ROM I want (I really haven't tinkered with it for last couple of years, so I may be wrong).
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That makes it very clear. But can you elaborate on why downgrade from 4.4.2 is not possible? I currently use rooted Droid Incredible on Verizon with CM 7.1 and if I am not mistaken I can flash pretty much any previous ROM I want (I really haven't tinkered with it for last couple of years, so I may be wrong).
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Moto changed the bootloader in 4.4.2 and they dont allow you to downgrade
Moto X DE - mine coming soon as well - some questions
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Moto changed the bootloader in 4.4.2 and they dont allow you to downgrade
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My VZW Moto X DE is on its way to me, and I've spent a bunch of time on the forums yet still have the following questions and hope you can help. My current phone is an original Droid Incredible, which I rooted, mostly for recovery, backups, tethering, and system monitoring. This site was a great resource back when I did that and I greatly appreciated the information.
RE: the Moto X, I've read the steps for unlocking the bootloader and which paths for upgrading/downgrading are safe given the release shipped with the phone. That information was for the standard Moto X. If the DE is unlocked, can I just go straight to rooting the phone? If the OTA updates won't work with root, is it best to accept the latest OTA pushes once my phone is online and then root? I want to be clear about what I've gained by getting the DE edition. Why go back to 4.4.2 if it ships with a later release?
I have no plans in the near future for changing ROM's. I'd just like to initially install what I am using on the Incredible - the clockworkmod recovery app (or current equivalent), titanium backuip, and a good tethering program. I currently use android wifi tether.
Thanks for any help.
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My VZW Moto X DE is on its way to me, and I've spent a bunch of time on the forums yet still have the following questions and hope you can help. My current phone is an original Droid Incredible, which I rooted, mostly for recovery, backups, tethering, and system monitoring. This site was a great resource back when I did that and I greatly appreciated the information.
RE: the Moto X, I've read the steps for unlocking the bootloader and which paths for upgrading/downgrading are safe given the release shipped with the phone. That information was for the standard Moto X. If the DE is unlocked, can I just go straight to rooting the phone? If the OTA updates won't work with root, is it best to accept the latest OTA pushes once my phone is online and then root? I want to be clear about what I've gained by getting the DE edition.
I have no plans in the near future for changing ROM's. I'd just like to initially install what I am using on the Incredible - the clockworkmod recovery app (or current equivalent), titanium backuip, and a good tethering program. I currently use android wifi tether.
Thanks for any help.
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I have a dev ed and keep mine the same way you intend... What I've gleaned so far is that the each update includes a new bootloader version that cannot be downgraded, i.e. if you take 4.4.2 you cannot downgrade to 4.4. At this point the VZW version only has 4.4.
As far as getting the phone to how you want it after you take the upgrades the material in the following two links should get you right where you want to be...
Custom recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2424110
Verizon boot animation and tether hack...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645343
He kind of muddied it up by adding other cleanup tools that I'm not interested in, if you're like me and only want the tether hack you will need to go to the 140.45.5 folder in his link and download xt1060-140.45.5-vzw-removal-s.zip He also has an undo zip that you might want to download and stash away just in case.
This part is speculative and potentially dangerous so take with a grain of salt and correct me if I'm wrong.
My understanding is that the big issue from the downgrade is that there will be a partition table mismatch if one takes an OTA upgrade and the phone will be bricked, though I can find nothing solid on this. Being that I plan on keeping a custom recovery I don't have to worry about accidentally taking an OTA and for some reason prefer to have the ability to downgrade, when 4.4.2 comes out I'm going to try to flash everything but the bootloader and I believe the partition table, (I need to read more and understand more before I speak with authority) to see if I can get away with it.
Also, on a side note, I found that freezing pre installed apps/bloat destroyed the wonderful battery life I was getting so I would suggest you keep your phone stock for a few days to get a feel for how the phone behaves before you begin freezing bloat.
Enjoy your new toy!
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I have a dev ed and keep mine the same way you intend... What I've gleaned so far is that the each update includes a new bootloader version that cannot be downgraded, i.e. if you take 4.4.2 you cannot downgrade to 4.4. At this point the VZW version only has 4.4.
As far as getting the phone to how you want it after you take the upgrades the material in the following two links should get you right where you want to be...
Custom recovery...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2424110
Verizon boot animation and tether hack...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645343
He kind of muddied it up by adding other cleanup tools that I'm not interested in, if you're like me and only want the tether hack you will need to go to the 140.45.5 folder in his link and download xt1060-140.45.5-vzw-removal-s.zip He also has an undo zip that you might want to download and stash away just in case.
This part is speculative and potentially dangerous so take with a grain of salt and correct me if I'm wrong.
My understanding is that the big issue from the downgrade is that there will be a partition table mismatch if one takes an OTA upgrade and the phone will be bricked, though I can find nothing solid on this. Being that I plan on keeping a custom recovery I don't have to worry about accidentally taking an OTA and for some reason prefer to have the ability to downgrade, when 4.4.2 comes out I'm going to try to flash everything but the bootloader and I believe the partition table, (I need to read more and understand more before I speak with authority) to see if I can get away with it.
Also, on a side note, I found that freezing pre installed apps/bloat destroyed the wonderful battery life I was getting so I would suggest you keep your phone stock for a few days to get a feel for how the phone behaves before you begin freezing bloat.
Enjoy your new toy!
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Thanks for that information. The last paragrapht seems counter-intuitive. I froze apps on the incredible so that it would reduce battery drain, why would freezing apps increase battery drain?
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Thanks for that information. The last paragrapht seems counter-intuitive. I froze apps on the incredible so that it would reduce battery drain, why would freezing apps increase battery drain?
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No idea, but freezing moto apps killed the battery. I haven't figured out what the culprit is yet as I'll be travelling this week and I don't want to jack up the phone while I'm on the road. I suspect another system app was spending effort looking for a missing app. Had I not ran my phone stock for a week I may have assumed that was just the phone as the high battery use was about the same as what I typically got on my S3. However, once I started freezing apps battery life went way down. Battery is good again after defrosting all Moto stuff that I assumed to be garbage. Once I get off the road I'll start freezing apps one at a time to see if I can isolate the culprit.
My thought is if you run it stock for a week you'll have a pretty good feel as to how the phone performs so you'll know whether your tweaks are helping or hurting you.
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Verizon boot animation and tether hack...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2645343
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Now that I'm looking at a full size computer I see that you are not getting a VZW version, The link above is not good! Sorry
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Now that I'm looking at a full size computer I see that you are not getting a VZW version, The link above is not good! Sorry
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Yes, I am getting the Verizon DE. (VZW, 1st post).
My wife's 1053 Moto X on T-mobile will not update from 4.4.4 to 5.1, it's not the 32gb developer edition but the 16 gb version.
She hates it when I reset her phone so I'm trying to avoid that.
It either errors out or says no update found when I check for an update.
I've tried clearing the cache and it didn't help
I have over 5 gb free so space shouldn't be an issue
I'm trying to use the Motorola Device Manager to update, it just says it looking for an update and then that it found no update
But the model number is NA, so it doesn't seem like it even knows what update it's looking for.
Does anyone know any non destructive ways to get it to update?
Hello folks..
I have a Moto G (2nd Gen) mobile phone with me, and had its bootloader unlocked + rooted pretty much within the week i purchased it.
I was under the impression that once the bootloader gets unlocked, i wont be getting any official upgrade notifications like that for Android Marshmallow etc. But today i been bombarded with the patch for the 'Stagefright' bug like crazy. Ignored it 4 times, but it again popped up.
Before i install it (it has been downloaded and ready for action), i just wanted to confirm if it ll be alright to go ahead with this patch? Dont want any silly boot cycles/bricking to crash my device
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Hello folks..
I have a Moto G (2nd Gen) mobile phone with me, and had its bootloader unlocked + rooted pretty much within the week i purchased it.
I was under the impression that once the bootloader gets unlocked, i wont be getting any official upgrade notifications like that for Android Marshmallow etc. But today i been bombarded with the patch for the 'Stagefright' bug like crazy. Ignored it 4 times, but it again popped up.
Before i install it (it has been downloaded and ready for action), i just wanted to confirm if it ll be alright to go ahead with this patch? Dont want any silly boot cycles/bricking to crash my device
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the boot loader unlocked is nothing to worry about it does NOT stop ota update notification or installation.
the ota update requires you to have the correct stock RECOVERY - it will work only with STOCK recovery installed NO TWRP allowed
root - well it all depends how you rooted it. It's better if you can unroot 1st but i have been told you can update OTA with root but it will probable de root phone in process.
So I would say you are 99% good to go!!! + i have 5.0.2 stock firmwares in my signature if it goes wrong (It really shouldn't!)
out of interest before you if you are on LXB22.46-28 please dont install it yet download a root file explorer go to /cache and save the blur_version.xxx.zip to pc 1st (we need this as only have lxb22.99-16 version)
Good luck
i have LMY48M build number , anyone get it yet or am i better off flashing a stock image
I have a Nexus 6 on AT&T with the same build number as you. I haven't received the Android 6.0 Marshmallow update yet either. I'm new to Nexus, so I'm not sure how long it takes for AT&T accept the update. I would probably wait for about one more week and if it hasn't come to you by then, then yes, I would flash it.
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I have a Nexus 6 on AT&T with the same build number as you. I haven't received the Android 6.0 Marshmallow update yet either. I'm new to Nexus, so I'm not sure how long it takes for AT&T accept the update. I would probably wait for about one more week and if it hasn't come to you by then, then yes, I would flash it.
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I was notified that the OTA was downloaded and ready to be installed this afternoon about 4:30 PM EDT. I haven't installed it yet, I'm still waiting to see how gaining root access plays out.
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I was notified that the OTA was downloaded and ready to be installed this afternoon about 4:30 PM EDT. I haven't installed it yet, I'm still waiting to see how gaining root access plays out.
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same as always. if you havd root, you can not apply an ota, it wint work. if you don't have root, you can take it, then root your n6 just like any other nexus ever. 1 unlock your bootloader, 2. fastboot flash twrp recovery, 3. flash supersu in your new recovery. that never changes on any nexus, since google makes it easy for us to root.
After further reading it looks like the update I have is to LMY48W, not MRA58K.
My dad has AT&T and is still waiting for the 6.0 update on his Nexus 5. He's still on LMY48M and it says his phone is up to date. He won't let me flash the factory image for him either....
I got my Nexus 6 from Amazon but I have AT&T. Do you guys have HD Voice/VOLTE enabled? I did a live chat with them yesterday and said because I don't get my updates from them, I can't use it even though it's in my area. I have the apn nextgenphone showing up, just not getting hd voice.
I am on LMY48M as well. I bought mine unlocked from Google but am running it on Cricket Wireless. Does carrier matter on how long it will take to get pushed out?
I'm on Cricket, got a new Nexus 6, it is still on Build number: LRX22C , 5.0.1
How on earth do I make it OTA update to something newer?
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I got my Nexus 6 from Amazon but I have AT&T. Do you guys have HD Voice/VOLTE enabled? I did a live chat with them yesterday and said because I don't get my updates from them, I can't use it even though it's in my area. I have the apn nextgenphone showing up, just not getting hd voice.
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Not sure why they said that...the Nexus 6 isn't listed as one of their HD Voice capable phones. Until they get their act together with that, no one on AT&T will have HD Voice on the Nexus.
I got the MRA5BK update on my Nexus 5 on 10/8 on AT&T but am still waiting for it on my T-Mobile N6 and my N9.
Mine automatically updated to 5.1.1 when I first set it up.
I just made mine update by removing the Cricket (AIO) SIM.
Stopping the google framework, clearing the data.
Performing the CHECKIN.
Then is started to 5.1 and then to 5.1.1
Seems strange why it didn't start by itself.
And then to marshmallow? If so, could you elaborate on the ?
No, sorry, it stopped at a few variations of 5.1.1
Shucks
I to have a Nexus 6 on Cricket running 5.1.1 build number LMY48T. I got mine to update by pulling sim card and leaving WiFi on through the night. Update to 5.1.1 was ready that morning
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I to have a Nexus 6 on Cricket running 5.1.1 build number LMY48T. I got mine to update by pulling sim card and leaving WiFi on through the night. Update to 5.1.1 was ready that morning
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They're talking about the update to 6.0, not to 5.1.1.
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They're talking about the update to 6.0, not to 5.1.1.
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It is kinda connected though, as it looks like it depends which SIM you have inserted to whether an update happens.
The guy I was referring to said his was stuck on 5.0.1.
Hi!
Long time no see, haven't touched android in a couple years and could use some help unrooting my Moto X. It is a verizon Moto X (2013), android 4.4.2 rooted with towel pie root.
What do I do? Read through this page but was still confused, and several of the download links weren't available. There is an update available for my phone, what would happen if I accept it while it's rooted? I'm fine to be on 5.1, just want to get the phone working for my friend. I wasn't too familiar with things back when I first rooted it but I am basically back to ground zero in the lingo and know-how
Many thanks!
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