Anybody got the OTA update for XT1092 already?
Also do you know if I can accept the OTA (once it comes) even though I'm rooted? Or will it fail and I have to do a clean install / revert to stock?
Thanks
Sent from my XT1092 using Tapatalk
Nope, no XT-1092 yet, no word as to when either, although rumour has it we will get it sometime during December. As long as you haven't altered any system apps, you should hopefully be okay with root, although you will loose root once you get the update.
Thunder_Bolt said:
Nope, no XT-1092 yet, no word as to when either, although rumour has it we will get it sometime during December. As long as you haven't altered any system apps, you should hopefully be okay with root, although you will loose root once you get the update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you have rooted, you can' t unroot and take the update, it will only apply on stock never rooted systems. If you have rooted you will need to flash a stock system image first
Nope... Eagerly waiting....
Sent from my XT1092 using XDA Free mobile app
Thunder_Bolt said:
Nope, no XT-1092 yet, no word as to when either, although rumour has it we will get it sometime during December. As long as you haven't altered any system apps, you should hopefully be okay with root, although you will loose root once you get the update.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
godutch said:
If you have rooted, you can' t unroot and take the update, it will only apply on stock never rooted systems. If you have rooted you will need to flash a stock system image first
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So who is right?
Once OTA is out, will it be easy for some skilled guys to create a rooted version that one can flash or rather not? I mean root is already available for lollipop
Sent from my XT1092 using Tapatalk
godutch is probably right, I am only speaking from my experience with Nexus devices, I haven't tried it yet with the X
Related
Im on .257 FW (rooted)
And I saw 4.3 update available OTA
if I updated am I gonna loose root???
Thanks
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Yes you'd lose full root
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk 2
So it's currently not possible to preserve root huh. Is it possible (in any way) to update to .290 with a locked BL and keep data? (or at least all my settings and stuff)
chubby65 said:
Yes you'd lose full root
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wt ya meant by full root???
I only want root for use lucky patcher and hack poweramp licence thats the only thing I use root for
Sent from my GT-I9505 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
I tried updating via the OTA while rooted and the update fails.
I'm using the paid version of SuperSU while in "Survival Mode" with a locked bootloader.
Sent from my C6903 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
On some firmwares root will stay after OTA update.
You'll have partial root but that's only what's possible to get on locked bootloaders - for now.
We said that many times before and I see many users still likes to answer wrong.
If you, IF YOU!, manage to update via OTA - your root will stay.
Sent from my Z1
funky0308 said:
On some firmwares root will stay after OTA update.
You'll have partial root but that's only what's possible to get on locked bootloaders - for now.
We said that many times before and I see many users still likes to answer wrong.
If you, IF YOU!, manage to update via OTA - your root will stay.
Sent from my Z1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
what is partial root
zyclops1 said:
what is partial root
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can write to system but only from recovery.
Basically you can't copy manually apk or any files to system folders - you have to do that through recovery.
Problem is when system boot, you have administrative rights only in recovery.
Sent from my Z1
funky0308 said:
You can write to system but only from recovery.
Basically you can't copy manually apk or any files to system folders - you have to do that through recovery.
Problem is when system boot, you have administrative rights only in recovery.
Sent from my Z1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
can i use lucky patcher and viperaudio :silly:
zyclops1 said:
can i use lucky patcher and viperaudio :silly:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure for lucky but all MODs should work.
Sent from my Z1
funky0308 said:
I'm not sure for lucky but all MODs should work.
Sent from my Z1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i dont want a recovery also so best choice is to stay on 4.2? eh??
zyclops1 said:
i dont want a recovery also so best choice is to stay on 4.2? eh??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well I don't see a point then.
Without recovery you'll not get anything...
I'm using stock 290 without root and it's O.K
Sent from my Z1
zyclops1 said:
i dont want a recovery also so best choice is to stay on 4.2? eh??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you want everything working then just stay on 4.2, if you want to update and you can unlock your bootloader then do it that way, i'm sticking with 4.2 until everything is working as it should.
funky0308 said:
On some firmwares root will stay after OTA update.
You'll have partial root but that's only what's possible to get on locked bootloaders - for now.
We said that many times before and I see many users still likes to answer wrong.
If you, IF YOU!, manage to update via OTA - your root will stay.
Sent from my Z1
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How is it wrong answer?
It's a fact that if you update to 4.3 you WILL lose full root
Unless you CAN unlock your bootloader full root is not available at the moment
That's why I'm back on 4.2 partial root is no good
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk 2
I'm currently on 4.2.2. rooted stock rom, locked bl, dualrecovery, (.257 firmware) and xposed installed with some modules activated.
I have an OTA update for 4.3. available but I'd like to know what happens if the update manages to go through? I've read about partial root but that doesn't tell me much. Is there a way to keep full root with supersu pro or voodoo root keeper?
So, what exactly can I do with it or don't?
Will my dualrecovery remain after the update? Or if it's gone, could I install it again with partial root?
The xposed remains as well since it was already present before the upgrade or not?
Can I still use Titanium Backup to backup, delete, freeze, restore apps and data (system apps and user apps)?
Could I gain root via partial root via a startup script which runs automatically at boot (without bl unlock)?
One last question: I really don't get why Android manufacturers don't even bother to at least offer the option to enable root if the user wants this option.
Like there could be an option to enable root and when you tap on it, the system displays severals warnings to inform you about the downsides and potential dangers and if you accept, the system reboots and you have full read/write access/root.
I know about the downsides (malware, etc.) but to me and I believe to many others as well, the benefits outhweigh them by a lot.
Are they just unwilling or is it not that easy to enable and disable?
To me, an Android phone without root feels as limited as a Windows computer without admin rights. It feels so constraint.
chubby65 said:
That's why I'm back on 4.2 partial root is no good
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am using 4.3 with root, there are several threads which explain how (Q&A for example)
AntiDroid said:
I am using 4.3 with root, there are several threads which explain how (Q&A for example)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah but that's for unlocked bootloader
Locked bootloader is different and some bootloaders can't be unlocked mate
Sent from my C6903 using Tapatalk 2
chubby65 said:
Yeah but that's for unlocked bootloader
Locked bootloader is different and some bootloaders can't be unlocked mate
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my bad x.x I skipped most of the sentences
AntiDroid said:
my bad x.x I skipped most of the sentences
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
True. I personally can unlock but don't want to because of the warranty.
Can anyone please answer the questions from my previous post? At least some of them? It would help me a lot in deciding if I should upgrade to 4.3. or not.
drsoran2 said:
True. I personally can unlock but don't want to because of the warranty.
Can anyone please answer the questions from my previous post? At least some of them? It would help me a lot in deciding if I should upgrade to 4.3. or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You already lost your warranty by rooting and flashing a dual recovery. Unlocking your BL wouldn't change anything, but backup your TA partition before you do that(search for topics).
I see that your from germany. You should check out the difference between "Garantie und Gewährleistung" (LEO and Google Translate actually say that both mean warranty, but they are NOT the same)
Garantie = warranty for damages "by you" (dropping it for example)
Gewährleistung = warranty for damages which happened because of a sony mistake (
You lose your garantie by rooting/unlocking but the gewährleistung persists because of an european law.
I hope that this information helps you
I know from previous phones if I rooted and installed a custom recovery that I wouldn't be able to take an OTA update.
Would still I be able to receive a new OTA update (say 4.4.2) if my Moto X (4.4) is Rooted without write protection?
JJHunterx said:
I know from previous phones if I rooted and installed a custom recovery that I wouldn't be able to take an OTA update.
Would still I be able to receive a new OTA update (say 4.4.2) if my Moto X (4.4) is Rooted without write protection?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm pretty sure that you won't be able to install the OTA with a custom recovery.
Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk
With the new root method (wp off) you keep the stock recovery. The only real way to know is too try. I guess its feasible..... But I've seen rooted devices boot loop in OTA's too....time will tell!
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
matt99017d said:
With the new root method (wp off) you keep the stock recovery. The only real way to know is too try. I guess its feasible..... But I've seen rooted devices boot loop in OTA's too....time will tell!
Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it is not something i would do when the next OTA comes out i would revert to stock and take the OTA or i would wait for a root and go from there. i do know for a fact with a custom recovery if you take a OTA your device will bootloop. with WP off i am not sure what would happen but again i would not recommend trying because it could case some major issues.
What are people doing to root the newest official 5.1 pure OTA? I saw a couple of threads about root floating around, but cf autoroot seems to have failed for a few people. What are you guys using to root?
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
Completing this question by adding one more bit that is there any root method which supports easy unrooting like Kitkat days where we don't have to go through hassles and risks of flashing whole stock ROM again?
I rooted 5.1 by booting twrp and flashing latest supersu. I haven't tried yet to full unroot but it should work.
Nicolae-Daniel said:
I rooted 5.1 by booting twrp and flashing latest supersu. I haven't tried yet to full unroot but it should work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How did you boot twrp??,,, . Using windroid?
Sent from my XT1092 using XDA Free mobile app
rohithksaj said:
How did you boot twrp??,,, . Using windroid?
Sent from my XT1092 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Via fastboot. I just unrooted my device,although bootloader says "Software status : Modified" so i don't think it's safe to OTA update.
Be careful with this method though. Cause as of now there is no full image of 5.1. Therefore no stock recovery if you want to flash everything back like stock , unless you go back to 5.0 and then flash ota, hence the potential risk.
kristof95 said:
Be careful with this method though. Cause as of now there is no full image of 5.1. Therefore no stock recovery if you want to flash everything back like stock , unless you go back to 5.0 and then flash ota, hence the potential risk.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep. Kinda stuck as I didn't backup before rooting
Doesn't the factory reset convert the phone back into the stock? Like what used to happen in previous Android versions?
Jack Sparrow xda said:
Doesn't the factory reset convert the phone back into the stock? Like what used to happen in previous Android versions?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, that's never been a thing. It only wipes /data and doesn't touch /system at all.
For that to work, they'd have to take up valuable phone space with system images.
As for root, getting it is virtually unchanged since 4.4.4. Use Cf-Auto-Root or let twrp do it.
Anybody tried re locking the boot loader.???
I tried every method but failed....
Sent from my XT1092 using XDA Free mobile app
rohithksaj said:
Anybody tried re locking the boot loader.???
I tried every method but failed....
Sent from my XT1092 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can't be done.
rohithksaj said:
Anybody tried re locking the boot loader.???
I tried every method but failed....
Sent from my XT1092 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's pointless to do. There is no valid reason to relock it.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
the topic gone wrong, what is the best way to root latest ota? does cf-auto-root work?
since there is full image of latest 5.1 ota for pure edition, there are low risks of rooting.
any suggestion?
pro.gangster said:
the topic gone wrong, what is the best way to root latest ota? does cf-auto-root work?
since there is full image of latest 5.1 ota for pure edition, there are low risks of rooting.
any suggestion?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just flash TWRP and root that way... If you don't want to overwrite the default recovery, boot TWRP. No real risks, it hasn't changed from 5.0.
Sent from my Moto X 2014 Pure Edition using Tapatalk
Just wondering which version Verizon phones are running right now? Like Verizon LMY47Z? I tried the beta preview 3 and don't like it and would like to switch back to stock but I can't get any OTAs with a updated bootloader....
Thank you
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
thawte said:
Just wondering which version Verizon phones are running right now? Like Verizon LMY47Z? I tried the beta preview 3 and don't like it and would like to switch back to stock but I can't get any OTAs with a updated bootloader....
Thank you
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The latest build for Nexus 6s on Verizon are LMY48I.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
Latest is LMY48I. Has the partial Stagefright fix. LMY47Z is also Verizon without the fix.
Thank you very much for the info. I am going to restore back to that then and see if I have better luck with battery power.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Tapatalk
It looks like the boot loader from LMY48I flashed over the top of the beta 3 boot loader woohoo! Next question, if I root the phone/ install TWRP, will I still be notified about OTAs and then I can just reapply rooting and the custom recovery?
thawte said:
It looks like the boot loader from LMY48I flashed over the top of the beta 3 boot loader woohoo! Next question, if I root the phone/ install TWRP, will I still be notified about OTAs and then I can just reapply rooting and the custom recovery?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you root and install TWRP will be notified of OTA but won't be able to flash it till return to full stock again. Can't have anything modified.
Ah gotcha. Thank you for the info
thawte said:
Ah gotcha. Thank you for the info
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If gonna be modified just forget about OTAs. If have to flash back to stock just flash the updated factory image and be done with it. Save a lot of time and headaches. And don't relock bootloader.
I do like being modified and having some of the features and whatnot... I just got pretty mad earlier because my phone was awake and killing battery the whole time i was at work. I went to go use it and it was completely dead by the end of work
Hi,
I'm trying to upgrade my Moto X 2014 to Marshmallow. The OTA upgrade appeared last week, but fails without any error message.
When the devices was new, I unlocked the boot and rooted it. The first upgrade (5.0) installed without any problem, but I chose not to root it anymore.
Upgrade to 5.1 failed. It worked after I reflashed the recovery.img(following idea from Q18 in http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/wip-frequently-questions-moto-x-2014-t2876769). The same happened with the Stagefright update some time later. Now, the Marshmallow upgrade is available, but reflashing recovery.img is no longer working. It simply fails without any meaningful message. Could someone help me?
Tks,
Roberto
Device:
Moto X 2014, Brazilian retail version, version 23.16.2.victara_retbr.retbr.en.BR.retbr, version number LPE23.32-14.2
rgreiner said:
Hi,
I'm trying to upgrade my Moto X 2014 to Marshmallow. The OTA upgrade appeared last week, but fails without any error message.
When the devices was new, I unlocked the boot and rooted it. The first upgrade (5.0) installed without any problem, but I chose not to root it anymore.
Upgrade to 5.1 failed. It worked after I reflashed the recovery.img(following idea from Q18 in http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/wip-frequently-questions-moto-x-2014-t2876769). The same happened with the Stagefright update some time later. Now, the Marshmallow upgrade is available, but reflashing recovery.img is no longer working. It simply fails without any meaningful message. Could someone help me?
Tks,
Roberto
Device:
Moto X 2014, Brazilian retail version, version 23.16.2.victara_retbr.retbr.en.BR.retbr, version number LPE23.32-14.2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Flash the stock 5.1 firmware to get completely back to stock, then try again.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
AGISCI said:
Flash the stock 5.1 firmware to get completely back to stock, then try again.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Isn't there a way to avoid it? I would like to avoid fully resetting the phone.
Tks,
Roberto
rgreiner said:
Isn't there a way to avoid it? I would like to avoid fully resetting the phone.
Tks,
Roberto
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No there is no other way. An OTA fails if you are not 100% stock. So that means no root, no xposed, no custom kernels, no modifications to anything that is in system. If even one thing is modified it WILL fail. So the solution is to go back to 100% stock by flashing the full firmware.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
AGISCI said:
No there is no other way. An OTA fails if you are not 100% stock. So that means no root, no xposed, no custom kernels, no modifications to anything that is in system. If even one thing is modified it WILL fail. So the solution is to go back to 100% stock by flashing the full firmware.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's strange. When I upgraded to 5.1 and 5.1/stagefright, I had exactly the same setup: Boot unlocked, no root. It upgraded fine after just reflashing 'recovery.img'. Actually, when I upgraded from 4.4 to 5.0, the phone was rooted, and yet it upgraded perfectly.
Roberto
rgreiner said:
That's strange. When I upgraded to 5.1 and 5.1/stagefright, I had exactly the same setup: Boot unlocked, no root. It upgraded fine after just reflashing 'recovery.img'. Actually, when I upgraded from 4.4 to 5.0, the phone was rooted, and yet it upgraded perfectly.
Roberto
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Again as I stated, something is modified. In the OTA it checks for modifications, if it finds something modified it fails and exits without upgrading it. So if you want to take the upgrade you need to flash back to stock.
This forum is filled with posts and topics of people having to unroot to get the OTAs to work. So why it worked for you, no idea, since you are the only person I have ever seen who has stated that it worked while rooted. According to every other post on this forum, OTA fails when rooted...
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
AGISCI said:
Again as I stated, something is modified. In the OTA it checks for modifications, if it finds something modified it fails and exits without upgrading it. So if you want to take the upgrade you need to flash back to stock.
This forum is filled with posts and topics of people having to unroot to get the OTAs to work. So why it worked for you, no idea, since you are the only person I have ever seen who has stated that it worked while rooted. According to every other post on this forum, OTA fails when rooted...
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok. But still, why fully-reflashing? As I said, my phone is NOT rooted since 4.4. It's only boot unlocked, and both 5.0 and 5.1 where installed and no modifications made after that.
rgreiner said:
Ok. But still, why fully-reflashing? As I said, my phone is NOT rooted since 4.4. It's only boot unlocked, and both 5.0 and 5.1 where installed and no modifications made after that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Look, somewhere in your phone there IS something that is NOT stock. What it is, we don't know. The ONLY way for you to take an OTA is to be 100% stock, if not it will fail. So the only solution is to get your phone to 100% stock to take the OTA, which means flash the full firmware. If you don't want to flash the full firmware then you will stay on 5.1.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
AGISCI said:
Look, somewhere in your phone there IS something that is NOT stock. What it is, we don't know. The ONLY way for you to take an OTA is to be 100% stock, if not it will fail. So the only solution is to get your phone to 100% stock to take the OTA, which means flash the full firmware. If you don't want to flash the full firmware then you will stay on 5.1.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok,
if that's the only route left, I will try it.
Tks,
Roberto
rgreiner said:
Ok,
if that's the only route left, I will try it.
Tks,
Roberto
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ok. After backing-up everything I needed, I flashed the stock 5.1 image. Reinstalled all apps (actually, everything reinstalled automatically), restored backups, and then tried the upgrade. Both stagefright and marshmallow upgrades worked fine, and 6.0 is running fine.
Tks.