regarding the wifi battery drain bug. I've been scouting the Internet and found different suggestions from:
1. Changing Wifi Frequency
2. Turn off High Accuracy mode for GPS
3. Use custom kernel
4. Use custom Rom with R7 code
5. Uninstall apps, by using WLD to detect.
Some of my own:
1. Turn down screen brightness
2. Change my Wifi channel to N-only mode (5Ghz)
3. Flash back to KK 4.4.4 and OTA to L (UPDATE)
But nothing seems to help the drain while USING the freaking phone. I mean I surf the web with Wifi on and the battery drains quickly. I can't turn off wifi because I need it badly due to the fact I have the T-Mo $30 plan.
So therefore, I'm giving up trying and just have to charge more.
I never had this issue
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You could just try to live with it, i don't have this bug at all, but also i dont need wifi so much, have 15 GiB Data from Vodafone DE and just use it up like 90%..
You could also try to flash factory image and don't import ur apps, just go fresh
Out of curiosity, how much better was you phone on 4.4.4?
And, who can point me in the direction of how best to downgrade to 4.4.4?
Thanks.
Same here man. Here is what I've done so far to try to get back to Kitkat battery life.
I've fresh flashed the image at least 10 times using the flash all.bat on 2 different computers with matching MD5 downloads.
I've used it both stock/stock rooted, both unlocked/locked bootloader, both with/without user apps.
I've used several builds of Nexus 5 Experience, Slim , and Cataclysm ROMs.
I've used stock, Slim, Franco, ElementalX, Code Blue, Hellsgod, and Faux kernels.
I've used the setup as new device option at least 5 times on clean ROM flashes.
I've used Greenify and Lean Droid.
I've tried deleting all of but the most basic needed system apps.
I've turned off all battery drainers: Google Now, Location Services, Auto Brightness, Google Fit.
I've set mobile data to 2g only, set wifi to turn off while asleep, set wifi to 2.4 or 5 only, set it to device only GPS.
I've turned off auto brightness.
I've tried undervolting, tried underclocking, tried conservative governors.
I've tried doing a battery calibration.
.....there's probably a few more things I've tried as well but am not remembering right now.
I've tried quite literally every possible thing I can think of that I've picked up over the years as battery tips.
I'm still only able to get around 3 MAAAAAYBE 4 hours of combined usage on a good day which for me is listening to music over bluetooth and SOT combined. Compared to Kitkat that is about 2 hours give or take 30 minutes of less than before. Luckily I'm always near a charger.
Project Volta my patooty.:silly:
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Out of curiosity, how much better was you phone on 4.4.4?
And, who can point me in the direction of how best to downgrade to 4.4.4?
Thanks.
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Did you flash via the OTA update or through adb sideload on stock recovery?
Either way, you're going to have to unlock your phone to downgrade to 4.x, because you'll need to flash the factory image for it. Here's a quick overview of the process:
1. Download the factory image for your phone at https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
2. If you haven't already unlocked your N5, you need to --- and back up anything important first, cuz it all gets erased. Google how to do it -- there are toolkits to do this quickly and painlessly (I think WUG's is one?). Look in the dev section for it.
3. Once you're backed up, unlocked, and factory image downloaded, you use fastboot to flash the factory image. Google how to flash nexus factory images, and substitute the image you have in place of the image any guides have.
For unlocking your Nexus 5 Bootloader, you first need to boot into fastboot mode. This can be done by turning off your phone, holding vol down and power and wait till the screen responds.
Now you need to connect your phone to your pc, be sure you installed the google usb driver for full support of fastboot mode.
Now you can go ahead and install Fastboot/ADB, there are plenty of Tutorials in this section for this.
Now open your cmd, and type
Code:
fastboot oem unlock
On your phone you will now see a selection, which you have to answer with YES.
Voilla, you have an unlocked Bootloader.
ALL YOUR DATA IS NOW LOST
Now just flash Factory 4.4.4 with flash_all.bat
This is true the battery is not very good but when you are using custom kernels please tweak them and learn how to tweak them using several kernel tuning apps like synapse faux clock, kernel tweaker, trickster mod etc
And if after tweaking u still are not getting results please try changing your kernel settings to new ones keep testing until you find suitable settings
All the best
Anyone want to comment on how LL battery life compared to 4.4.4 on their nexus?
In any case, I see little improvement in LL.
IMO 4.4.4 was better. At least you didn't have to swipe away notification screen every time you power on the screen.
If all we are gaining is slightly "smoother" experience, and encryption, then who gives a sh!t.
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For unlocking your Nexus 5 Bootloader, you first need to boot into fastboot mode. This can be done by turning off your phone, holding vol down and power and wait till the screen responds.
Now you need to connect your phone to your pc, be sure you installed the google usb driver for full support of fastboot mode.
Now you can go ahead and install Fastboot/ADB, there are plenty of Tutorials in this section for this.
Now open your cmd, and type
Code:
fastboot oem unlock
On your phone you will now see a selection, which you have to answer with YES.
Voilla, you have an unlocked Bootloader.
ALL YOUR DATA IS NOW LOST
Now just flash Factory 4.4.4 with flash_all.bat
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And yes, thank you. Fortunately, I have rooted tons of phones before, so I shouldn't get too lost
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Just for comparison's sake, I have been using my iPhone 6 for the past 4 hours, and it reads 94% remaining battery.
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[/COLOR]Just for comparison's sake, I have been using my iPhone 6 for the past 4 hours, and it reads 94% remaining battery.
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You weren't using it full screen on and playing anything intensive....
Iphones drain just a badly when you use them. When screen off sitting, they have wonderful battery. But who cares? I leave my phones on chargers when Idle.
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You weren't using it full screen on and playing anything intensive....
Iphones drain just a badly when you use them. When screen off sitting, they have wonderful battery. But who cares? I leave my phones on chargers when Idle.
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You're right - I wasn't using my iPhone 6 to "play" anything. I was using it to get work done: Emails, web, phone calls, SMS etc. It lasts two days for these purposes. My Nexus 5? 4-5 hours.
(and uh, no. It doesn't drain as badly. There's no contest there.. I prefer Android, but goddamn...I can't run around with a charger in my pocket. Not gonna happen)
2 days is my usual battery time. Same as kitkat, don't know what you r talking about wifi battery drain. Wifi is 90% turned on.
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You're right - I wasn't using my iPhone 6 to "play" anything. I was using it to get work done: Emails, web, phone calls, SMS etc. It lasts two days for these purposes. My Nexus 5? 4-5 hours.
(and uh, no. It doesn't drain as badly. There's no contest there.. I prefer Android, but goddamn...I can't run around with a charger in my pocket. Not gonna happen)
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4-5 Hours? You should re-image it man. You have something wrong. I get 4-5 hours of game, email, and music stream time on battery. If I Only do internet, email and phone I get an entire day.
Lucky for me these are toys. I would never be beholden to my electronics. lol
I'm not seeing any of these issues on Lollipop. Battery life has increased for me over KitKat.
I've been using Stock rooted with Code Blue.
A couple questions though...
Do you only make one change at a time and then test?
After making changes, how long do you test those settings before making additional changes?
Why did you switch it to 5GHz only? 5GHz has more trouble with walls and has a smaller coverage area than 2.4GHz.
Never had any issues with the WiFi but I turned off Google Now listening and almost tripled my daily battery life.
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I've just gone back to 4.4.4 - will see if battery improves or not.
I really did not see anything particularly better about LL anyway.
I'm having my share of problems with Lollipop (though things have been improving over the past week or two,) but the wifi power drain never hit me. Wi-Fi battery life is a bit worse than I had on Kitkat: idle drain is excellent, but SOT has gone from a comfortable 4 - 5 hr to 3 - 4 hrs (in a 12 - 15 hr day***), I can easily get well over 5 hrs, but that'll be at the cost of a significantly shorter 'day'. 3G, on the other hand, is chawing through battery rather aggressively compared to Kitkat & it hurts.
On both Kitkat & Lollipop I was/am running pure stock with everything on (Always listening, precise location, location reporting, bluetooth, etc. The only thing I've knowingly turned off is NFC (after accidentally setting my phone on a tag & tag-calling my mom at 4 AM ) No gaming, but several hours of podcast listening or Tune-In radio listening every day.
*** Usual average day from full charge to ~12% but early on there were a few days that barely lasted 10 hrs with under 3 hrs SOT.
I've been using the stock factory image and haven't encountered this wifi draining bug.
Update with reverting back to KK 4.4.4 from factory images and OTA to L in OP but only help with idle but not when using phone.
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Just for comparison's sake, I have been using my iPhone 6 for the past 4 hours, and it reads 94% remaining battery.
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I was using it to get work done: Emails, web, phone calls, SMS etc.
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I'm not sure if you realize this, but you claimed you can get 66.6 hours of active usage on a single charge with your iphone 6. I don't think I need to explain how ridiculously impossible that is. Maybe you should stop exaggerating so much if you want people to take you seriously. Assuming what your battery life is and knowing, are two very different things.
I'd put money down the phone wasn't actively used for more than 1 hour in that time. 16 hours of usage is within the realm of possibility.
For the record, my colleague beside me right now has an iPhone 6 PLUS (more battery) and confirms that is impossible. You couldn't even read ebooks at 0% brightness for 66 hours. I'd ask for proof but your phone of choice has no way to do so and we all know it could never happen anyways.
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hey everyone,
firstly, i just wanna say that the HTC Incredible S is a solid and terrific device, previously owning an iPhone 4 i might like the HTC better, except for some things...
The battery:
i read some reviews before buying and every reviewer seemed to love the phone and what the battery has to offer. I've owned the phone for a week, and charge it through the USB cable, connected to my PC, and sometimes the wall socket.
But it seems to me that the battery is a bit short.... if i want the battery full i will let it charge overnight, the next day i powered it on, sent a few texts and listened to half a song and the battery has already drained to 70%, coming to this from an iPhone 4 is disgusting.
I've got Auto-Sync and background data working, i like push notifications for Emails and Facebook and i like the weather to update on its own, also HTC sense incase i need to do things remotely, everything else has been set not to sync.
One of my favorite features is Auto Brightness, which is enabled on default, but when i check battery use it says that 70% has gone to the display, 12% cell network and everything else. I have a task killer that kills all processes when i turn the screen off..
Any help??
Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...
Dropping to ~95% can also be normal though. To preserve the battery the charging circuit should cutout when it reaches 100% charge and let it discharge to 95% before turning on again.
If you do wipe the battery stats make sure you read some guides and do it properly as I've found that more often than not it will have a detrimental affect (from needing to charge before it has fully discharged, or needing to reboot etc).
katu2006 said:
Wiping the battery stats a few times helped me, I used to recharge the phone to full battery and after unplugging it from the charger, it would drop to 94% in a few seconds...Oh, after 2-3 weeks, not after a week!
Also I get twice the battery life on Cyanogen 7.1, than on any other Rom I've tried...I get at least 2-3 days with good usage, tons of mails, sms, calls, weather apps etc. Wifi and BT always on. No juice defender or anything like that...
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wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.
It always drops to 95% when the battery is fully charged. S-ON Incredible S is not allowed to wipe battery status. Should I unlock it?
Yes, I forgot to mention...to wipe the battery stats you need to unlock the Hboot...If you have Hboot 1.16.000, then the only option is this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1337105
Unlocking the Hboot is giving you a few benefits, you get to install the CWM recovery and do a full backup of your Rom...Without unlocking the Hbtoot, if your Rom crashes, you can't flash any Rom so you have to send it back to HTC Service ...With the Hboot unlocked you can install custom Roms, you can restore a full backup, you can flash GAPPS etc, wipe battery stats directly from recovery etc etc...
So many benefits...
Now back on how to wipe the stats...The principle behind is simple, if 100%=4.3V and the stats are incorrectly set for 100%=3.9V, then you're never actually recharging the battery to full capacity, which is rubbish...
The way I do it is this - charge to 100%, boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats. Now use the phone until it's shutting down and then charge to 100% again.
Very important is to avoid rebooting the phone after the stats were wiped until the phone is fully recharged. Here is a thread about this process:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1359395
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Jess95 said:
wipe the stats? sorry im still new to android but so far so good, im impressed with everything else in the incredible s, its very snappy and has a bigger screen vs iPhone 4.
if it helps, i have the phone fully turned off if i charge it overnight.
also, i read on another forum that while it's still brand new it needs to run a few charge cycles to strengthen the battery, if that is true.
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In my view, recharging while the phone is off makes no difference.
Yes, it's true. With all my Android phones I went through the same thing, first week or so, the battery was rubbish, but after about 2 weeks it improved a lot.
yeah, i've had it for around one week. so i might take your word for it and give it a chance, maybe for 2 weeks. i was thinking of bringing it back to the store but i'll give it a chance.
a part from the short battery at the moment it's a pretty terrific phone and i like it more than the iPhone 4.
Once the battery is conditioned, phone is rooted, custom Rom installed, bloat frozen out or uninstalled, then you can expect your phone battery to last a good full day with regular usage. No need to switch off when charging over night.
Well its incredible enough for me
It lasts a day, which is just right for me haha
Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
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well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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well i've had it for almost 2 weeks now. I charged again overnight last night and used it to listen to music and play NinJump/Bejewled on the way home today, battery uptime was just over 30 mins and the battery was down to 70% remaining. That's a bit quick if you ask me.
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Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.
Thanx everybody for the replies
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Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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That battery usage sounds awesome! I have mine on Auto Brightness and WiFi turned off but its nothing like yours. My battery usage app says most of it has gone to the brightness, of course that percentage goes down when i start opening apps.
edit: im also using the stock Android 2.3.3 installed from the factory. and disabled my Advanced Task Killer, battery is still the same, but the phone now lags a lot less. so thats a plus for now.
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Maybe try disabling the Optus bloatware. Had a bit of an improvement when I did it to mine. Also be mindful about what apps are running in the background constantly, they could also have an impact on battery life. Screen is a huge battery killer if its constantly on, autobrightness can help slightly if you haven't enabled it already.
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When i first got the phone i noticed Optus loaded it with rubbish apps i'd never even touch. I disabled auto updates for the bloatware and forced stop for all the ones running. it doesnt look like i can remove them though :\
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Did u remove the USB immediately aft the charging?
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Yes, after i charge it for some time i always remove the usb cord. cos its finished charging, right?
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
katu2006 said:
Not sure what's happening with your phone...but my Inc S has really good battery life, similar to Iphone 4...
At the moment is not rooted (that's why I couldn't take a screenshot) and it's on stock 2.3.3. With BT and Wifi always on, with tons of e-mails daily, browsing, calls (at least 20 minutes per day), tons of messages, etc etc
Screen brightness is always set to maximum and I get at least 2 days battery life, see attached photo...
I'm not playing games or listen to music...so I can't test that side of things and maybe that's where the problem lies.
What's your Battery Usage app saying?
Is there anything unusual listed there?
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tzuyang said:
Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
Thanks
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ok atm my incredible s is saying 4 hrs 26 min uptime and 1 hr 21 min awake time, 50% left. my signal here is great, the speed of the internet even beats my ADSL 2+ sometimes. should i be thinking of warranty back to store?
Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.
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Before i rooted my phone i was charging my phone twice a day - this was nothing new to me as i had been charging my 3gs at least twice a day for the past two years.
However like somebody else has said, once the phone is rooted and all that optus junk has been deleted it lasts a lot longer. And you can notice the difference, my phone has been rooted for 2 days now and i have been on it none stop, modding all the appearence and downloading apps. I have been using it a lot more than i was before it was rooted and it has lasted at least twice as long. So for battery usage i should deffo root. Its HTC sense/screen that hammers your battery. Go look at battery usage and yourll see what i mean.
Also, i know this might sound stupid. But charging it through a wall socket (for me) seems quicker to charge, and seems to last longer than if its charged through a laptop/PC. Although ive thought this for my 3gs as well. If its actually true i dont know haha.
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sounds just about right. my iPhone 4 needed a charge like once every 2 - 4 days, i thought it was awesome. On the Incredible S it says that 62% of the battery usage has gone to display, with very little apps on the list.
The optus apps are just sitting there. Because im on Amaysim i can't exactly use them properly because you need an actual optus account. ive tried opening some of the optus apps, they're mostly just web links and theres a Mobile TV and a Music Store app i believe, but i never at all use them. so they cant be consuming any data, memory or battery or anything, right??
Im still unsure about 'rooting'. Im guessing it's android's version of the jailbreak or a godmode on the device? i might need some help on it, i know how to flash windows mobile and jailbreak iTouch devices easily.
But then again, a lot of people have bought this phone, they cant all be experiencing terrible battery life and i dont think every user would have a root on their device.
I bought it from DickSmith here in Aus, the guy there told me there's a 1 yr back to store warranty. The phone is solid and one of the best phones i've ever had, plus a good price tag on it, its a shame to let a weak battery spoil it.
im thinking of returning it, but i heard somewhere it needs a couple weeks to strengthen the battery, if that's the case then there's no point getting a new one only to wait longer, ill give it a little more time. Plus HTC is releasing 2.3.5 software for the Incredible S soon, and wikiPedia states that it's got "Improved battery efficiency". but ill still keep root in mind for when i get more use to the device.
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Hi when you get such good battery life, could you show us how long your screen's on for?
do you get good reception where you live? i find that seems to drain most of my battery.
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Yes, about 40min to 1hour display on... sometimes more...I will attach a screenshot once I get throughout the whole battery.
Yes, generally good coverage and mostly 3G...I'm on Optus.
My phone has been rooted before, but now it's on stock Rom as an experiment...
I would strongly advise on rooting, it changes the phone completely.
And remove any animation (live wallpapers) those are killing the battery.
Also found one more thing. If you've got Facebook installed it refreshes every hour, i set mine to never refresh, but you can still receive notifications
But i still don't get why the battery drains soo quickly, even on standby.
edit: found one more thing.
uptime and awake time. when i turn the screen off and awake time should stop counting as the phone is locked and im not using any apps, right?? in some cases i've noticed the awake timer still counts.
example: awake time will read 1:52:39, turn the screen off at this point. go back a couple hours later it's been counting as awake the whole time, and has half battery life it did eventhough i haven't touched the device since locking it and turning off the screen.
in some cases the awake timer will not budge when i lock the phone and turn the screen off and still find the same amount of battery life remaining when i come back.
I know there are countless threads/topics regarding high battery usage re p880, but I didn't want to resurrect an old thread, or hijack someone else's, so if I'm wrong in creating this thread, then I apologise.Can someone please tell me what exactly this service is/does, as it seems to be the biggest problem regarding my lousy battery life.. phone just sees it as android system (pic 3) where as BS+ sees system back up service. As i have backup disabled, this is puzzling me.
Thanks in advance,
Edit: in the time it took to write this message, ive lost 14% in battery, including the time it took to screenshot.
Edit 2: Ah, now im back on PC i can type properly.
been playing around, disabling system backup service, but a new process just gets launched in its place, from key chain, to LocMgrProvider...seems as you disable one, another replaces it, all using same battery. Must i just accept, that the android system is just going to eat my battery?..like cookie monster at the biscuit counter?
If it helps, im running stock 4.0.3, freshly flashed, with F/reset, unrooted.
Thanks in advance, and any help is very much appreciated,
Sun
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SunHounD said:
I know there are countless threads/topics regarding high battery usage re p880, but I didn't want to resurrect an old thread, or hijack someone else's, so if I'm wrong in creating this thread, then I apologise.Can someone please tell me what exactly this service is/does, as it seems to be the biggest problem regarding my lousy battery life.. phone just sees it as android system (pic 3) where as BS+ sees system back up service. As i have backup disabled, this is puzzling me.
Thanks in advance,
Edit: in the time it took to write this message, ive lost 14% in battery, including the time it took to screenshot.
Edit 2: Ah, now im back on PC i can type properly.
been playing around, disabling system backup service, but a new process just gets launched in its place, from key chain, to LocMgrProvider...seems as you disable one, another replaces it, all using same battery. Must i just accept, that the android system is just going to eat my battery?..like cookie monster at the biscuit counter?
If it helps, im running stock 4.0.3, freshly flashed, with F/reset, unrooted.
Thanks in advance, and any help is very much appreciated,
Sun
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that's... waaaaaay too much. why are you on ICS anyway?
my suggestion is - factory reset from stock recovery (warning: your internal sd card will be fully formatted). in case you don't care about ICS, i strongly suggest JB. if you don't care about voiding warranty, i strongly suggest unlocked bootloader + custom rom and kernel. oh and also, grab better battery stats app, it shows an easier-to-understand overview when compared to apps you used
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that's... waaaaaay too much. why are you on ICS anyway?
my suggestion is - factory reset from stock recovery (warning: your internal sd card will be fully formatted). in case you don't care about ICS, i strongly suggest JB. if you don't care about voiding warranty, i strongly suggest unlocked bootloader + custom rom and kernel. oh and also, grab better battery stats app, it shows an easier-to-understand overview when compared to apps you used
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Thanks for such a quick reply.
I'll tell you the scenario, as quick as i can make it.
had the phone 2 weeks, got it on a 24mnth contract ( i know, sigh)
anyway, updated it to JB (4.1.2?) through LG pc suite, but thought the battery life seemed to be worse, so i downgraded with LG flash tool, to ics.
after a F/reset, i rooted, then F/Reset again, but it seemed sluggish.
the long and short of it is, ive gone up to JB twice, and down to ICS twice, rooted and unrooted twice, disabled a whole HOST of stock bloatware, and am still left with similar results as posted in the pics.
ATM ive a clean ICS and im at a loss as to what to do. ive been reading all the threads about improving battery, culling the bloatware apps etc before i decided to post.
as for bootloader, i will probably do that sometime in the future, when im more knowledgeable on the subject. at present, i dont want to be left with a 2 year contract to a brick
thanks again,
ps: you say better battery stats is better than battery stats plus?...will download now, thanks
Sun
interesting situation. it's strange that sluggishness persisted between factory resets and .dz flashes back to 10x version.
first off, how does the phone behave when you're not using it? is it draining battery bad? is it going into deep sleep? what are the percentages of cpu states (you can check this in better battery stats, as battery stats plus seems to be too clunky for me to read proper info)?
if it's deep sleeping properly, then yeah, the issue is with something sucking up the juice while screen is on. next off, check cpu states - if it's locked at 1.5ghz often, when you have screen on but doing nothing, it's significant info.
what i've noticed with display, you can count up to 3:30 hours of onscreen time with stock rom (this is with very conservative use of wifi and data during this period, and no heavy gaming for example) - that's around 200 minutes of on screen time, meaning you should get around 2 minutes of screen on per 1% of reduction in battery - how far are you from this result?
i hope we manage to get to the bottom of this, but i still recommend unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel and/or rom. you can't really brick o4x while unlocking bootloader afaik, and you've done more complex operations when switching from 20a to 10h than bootloader unlock is.
I would go the other way to be honest. If you do a full factory reset, install no apps, no Google account or anything and still get a similar problem with the battery drain then I would take the phone back for replacement as that is abnormal.
No point running a risk with your warranty when might be a hardware fault.
It's midnight here now so can't really test it till.morning now. When phone is in standby, it seems to hold.its juice ok. I'm sat here now, with nothing switched on except WiFi, screen at 23% brightness , and am just using tapatalk and I'm getting 2-3 mins per 1% screen. Less if I play in the menus. First thing tomorrow, I'll reset the phone again, before dl'ing any apps. Then I'll only download BBS and see how I get on. I'll also.monitor battery loss over night.
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after i wrote the above last night, i decided to watch a movie on my phone in bed.(headphones, dont wanna disturb the missus ) and i managed to watch a movie of 2hrs 10 mins, with 23% battery drain, on stock video player, yet just browsing through the phones menus/ light web surfing, eats the juice like crazy.
left phone off charge over night, and didnt even have a 1% drop in 7 hours (wifi off,sync off, data always off(dont use it)) and phone set to 2g mode
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Right,
I've performed another F/reset, and rooted. Installed TB pro, and uninstalled/frozen a skew of apps/services as listed per the thread in my sig.
Installed better battery stats, charged phone to 100% took off charge, and am just waiting to see how it goes now. Would you recommend using phone as normal while BBS collects its info, or to let the phone alone for a while?
thanks again,
Sun
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Right,
I've performed another F/reset, and rooted. Installed TB pro, and uninstalled/frozen a skew of apps/services as listed per the thread in my sig.
Installed better battery stats, charged phone to 100% took off charge, and am just waiting to see how it goes now. Would you recommend using phone as normal while BBS collects its info, or to let the phone alone for a while?
thanks again,
Sun
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you can leave it alnoe during night to check if it deep sleeps properly, right now you're interested in cpu states option in bbs, to see if it uses too much cpu when doing normal tasks such as surfing, reading, watching/listening media etc. your goal is to get over 2 mins per 1% drain (in the end, over 3 hours of onscreen time with no heavy gaming). with those stats, your can say that your phone is draining normally, just that lg reports stupid stuff (f.e., stock roms report screen as using 20% of the battery, while in reality screen is using waaay more, the most actually)
Thanks Flying_Bear, I'll refrain from doing any more resets etc for the rest of the day, see how the readings progress and post on that tomorrow, after overnight analysis.
This piece of one of your previous posts just stuck in my mind:
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i hope we manage to get to the bottom of this, but i still recommend unlocking bootloader and flashing custom kernel and/or rom. you can't really brick o4x while unlocking bootloader afaik, and you've done more complex operations when switching from 20a to 10h than bootloader unlock is.
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TBH, from everything I've been reading on it, it kind of scared me off the subject, but to see you say it was less complicated than what I've already done, has got me to thinking.
The biggest thing for me at the minute, before considering that, it to rule out faulty hardware. At least if thats the case, i still have warranty intact.
Is the performance increase really that noticeble after flashing custom kernels/roms?
Thanks again for your time,
Sun
no.
apart from everyone here praising custom roms and kernels, DON'T flash a custom rom, when you are concerned about battery.
the best rom out there regarding battery life is by far a stock rom, be it 4.0.3 or 4.1.2.
the worst thing about the custom roms is WiFi. with stock i was able to let WiFi run through the night with less than 1% loss per hour.
on every custom rom my battery needs at least 5% per hour for WiFi, but most of the time even more. its just not useable.
shortly followed by 3g network, which has a much bigger battery drain than stock, too.
i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
BUT...
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
OR:
you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
Because you noticed your battery drain with 4.1.2, too, then i suspect a badly coded app. these are the reason for nearly every battery drain (and the reason for wakelocks, too) apart from bad drivers in custom kernels, like the WiFi desaster all the custom rom users have here.
I think the only reason I would consider custom roms, is a performance increase.... If it wont give me one, then I see no point in going down that route.
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i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
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Totally agree, its why I refuse to enable data in the first place.
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
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when I took the original screenies, in OP, I didnt really have much in the way of apps on it. I'd not long before done a clean flash, then removed some of the bloatware that came with it.
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you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
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At first yes... hey it was a new toy at the time. Novelty wore off about day 3 though.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
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yeah, it handled a movie quite well, I was quite pleased with this. When i said messing with the menu, I just meant exploring the phone; no custom/3rd party launchers, no messing with Dev stuff.
At the minute now, the only extra apps on my phone are XDA Dev app, tapatalk4, BBS, TB-pro and root uninstaller pro.
Oh, and can I ask.... aside form the ability to "pimp" your phone out, or the extra customization, is there any benefit to flashing custom roms? As it cant be for better performance....
thanks
Sun
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no.
apart from everyone here praising custom roms and kernels, DON'T flash a custom rom, when you are concerned about battery.
the best rom out there regarding battery life is by far a stock rom, be it 4.0.3 or 4.1.2.
the worst thing about the custom roms is WiFi. with stock i was able to let WiFi run through the night with less than 1% loss per hour.
on every custom rom my battery needs at least 5% per hour for WiFi, but most of the time even more. its just not useable.
shortly followed by 3g network, which has a much bigger battery drain than stock, too.
i am on CM and different kernels for some month now and i consider going back to stock, because i want to leave WiFi on in the night, otherwise my phone eats up my 100MB free 3G traffic way too fast.
BUT...
the reason for your battery hungry phone is not the ROM, the kernel or the phone itself.
your battery drain is absolutely absurd for stock ROM and can only be caused by badly programmed apps you have running.
OR:
you have your phone relatively new and play with it EVERY FRICKIN MINUTE, which would be an explanation, too.
you said, you were able to watch a whole 2h movie with only 23% loss, that sounds like the stock ROM i know. on custom you would lose around 50% for this. but when your phone loses battery when you "play with the launcher", you maybe have installed a 3rd party launcher, that eats your power, are using facebook/skype/whatsapp/(insert any other badly coded program, that has no push mode), or have just fiddled with the developer settings a bit too much.
Because you noticed your battery drain with 4.1.2, too, then i suspect a badly coded app. these are the reason for nearly every battery drain (and the reason for wakelocks, too) apart from bad drivers in custom kernels, like the WiFi desaster all the custom rom users have here.
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yeah wifi can drain too much, but i had almost same stats on custom as on stock - 3-4% per hour if wifi is left on, with sync on and push notifications and blabla. you've got things going great if you have 1% per hour with wifi on.
lg has crammed up a whole lot of **** inside their stock rom - apart from useful stuff like proper mhl drivers, quickmemo, nice gallery & video apps, it's bloated to hell - mlt logging, ****ty launcher (imo), widgets that only work on stock launcher, "smart log service", RIDICULOUS throttling etc). you can root and uninstall most of these, but even then you might not get what you're looking for.
my best onscreen time on stock 4.1.2 20a/20b was 3 hours 3 minutes. that's with conservative use of wifi, 3g and almost no gaming. on custom rom & kernel, today i pumped out 3 hours 37 minutes, and was on 17% battery, when i plugged it in in order to recharge it. that was an obvious increase for me (keep in mind there were custom rom/kernel combinations that had me pulling barely 2 hours onscreen time).
you need unlocked bootloader for custom kernels, and say what you say but proper kernels ARE battery savers and performance enhancers. stock kernel has for some people insane issues with baseband_xmm wakelock (for me it was rediculous, 6% per hour drain when not using a phone and no deep sleep at all) and wipes didn't help with that; only custom kernel fixed it. it has RIDICULOUS (for emphasys) throttling effect, slowing your cores down to 1ghz each when battery hits 43 degrees celsius (which for me was around 20 seconds of normal usage on a hot day outside), which leaves you crippled if you're planning on doing any complex action with your phone.
alternative is - unlock bootloader, check custom roms and see if you like'em (Zaiben is f.e. debloated and improved stock, something OP might like, or he can go cm, or carbon or any other if he prefers custom features). if you don't, it's easy to flash a .kdz file back.
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yeah wifi can drain too much, but i had almost same stats on custom as on stock - 3-4% per hour if wifi is left on, with sync on and push notifications and blabla. you've got things going great if you have 1% per hour with wifi on.
lg has crammed up a whole lot of **** inside their stock rom - apart from useful stuff like proper mhl drivers, quickmemo, nice gallery & video apps, it's bloated to hell - mlt logging, ****ty launcher (imo), widgets that only work on stock launcher, "smart log service", RIDICULOUS throttling etc). you can root and uninstall most of these, but even then you might not get what you're looking for.
my best onscreen time on stock 4.1.2 20a/20b was 3 hours 3 minutes. that's with conservative use of wifi, 3g and almost no gaming. on custom rom & kernel, today i pumped out 3 hours 37 minutes, and was on 17% battery, when i plugged it in in order to recharge it. that was an obvious increase for me (keep in mind there were custom rom/kernel combinations that had me pulling barely 2 hours onscreen time).
you need unlocked bootloader for custom kernels, and say what you say but proper kernels ARE battery savers and performance enhancers. stock kernel has for some people insane issues with baseband_xmm wakelock (for me it was rediculous, 6% per hour drain when not using a phone and no deep sleep at all) and wipes didn't help with that; only custom kernel fixed it. it has RIDICULOUS (for emphasys) throttling effect, slowing your cores down to 1ghz each when battery hits 43 degrees celsius (which for me was around 20 seconds of normal usage on a hot day outside), which leaves you crippled if you're planning on doing any complex action with your phone.
alternative is - unlock bootloader, check custom roms and see if you like'em (Zaiben is f.e. debloated and improved stock, something OP might like, or he can go cm, or carbon or any other if he prefers custom features). if you don't, it's easy to flash a .kdz file back.
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Hi Flying_ Bear, can you pl confirm what combo of rom and kernel is giving you 3 hr 37 min of screen on time and which ones to avoid (ones that gave you 2 hrs)?
Carbon rom 4.2.2 version with iodak v7 had the best onsceen. Id say stock was worst, 2hrs 45mins of onscreen with no gaming and low brightness, with stock kernel
My battery life is pretty bad. During an 8-9 hour shift at work in which my phone primarily sits in my back pocket (I hardly use it at work) my battery drains to close to 25%, and even worse if I actually use my G2 to do anything. Anyone have any tips for getting the battery back to normal? The phone isn't rooted by the way.
I've seen many people recommend a factory reset, which I was going to try and so I downloaded Helium since I'd really like to keep the progress and settings etc. within each of my apps. I have it installed on both my G2 and computer, and I have USB debugging turned on and have set the phone to PTP, but I cannot get Helium to recognize my phone on my PC. I have all the necessary drivers, and everything-to my knowledge-is set up as it should be, yet it still won't recognize the phone within Helium on my computer. Any advice on that?
I'm not sure it makes a difference, but I don't think you need USB debugging enabled for Helium. Try turning it off and see if it helps.
I can say you WILL see a battery life improvement after the reset. I didn't back up anything before doing it--just set everything up manually again. It didn't take too long. However, even though the battery is better it has never been as good as it was on stock JB when I could get nearly 50 hours with normal usage. Best I could do after the KK update was maybe 35 hours and a little over 4 hours screen time. Still, that's plenty to get through the day...
Go back to JB. That is what I did and my battery life is awesome again. I tried all the other fixes and this is the only one that worked.
http://www.theandroidsoul.com/back-...campaign=Feed:+TheAndroidSoul+(TheAndroidSoul)
Jeff
Some people have had luck pushing the update again from LG's support site. Are you in a low signal area at work?
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Some people have had luck pushing the update again from LG's support site. Are you in a low signal area at work?
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Either that or go for custom kk
Setting my phone from global mode to LTE/CDMA only made a huge difference for me. I'm back to ICS days. I got BT, GPS high accuracy, google now with hotword, ..
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Ok, so I had a problem with my old Moto G 2014 and bought a new one. I've been using it for two days and I'm yet to get the battery life I used to have on my old one. With Kit Kat I used to get 4,5 hours of screentime. When updated to Lollipop I went to 5,5-6 hours of screentime. With the new one I'm getting 4,2 hours of screentime tops. The phone came with Lollipop already so I was hoping to get my old battery life (or better, as it is a new phone).
"Android Services" is having an abnormal use of battery (as seen on screenshots) and it is actually eating more battery than screen on some point which was NEVER the case before.
As for screentime, right now I'm with 75% battery and 1,1 hour of screentime. Usually on the old phone I'd get 1,1 hour of screentime with something like 87%.
The battery consumption overnight is also abnormal. I went to sleep with 85% and the phone in airplane mode and woke up to 80% - 7 hours without use nor signal searching (I know the phone uses battery overnight but 5% in airplane mode is too much for my experience). The charts didn't show any sign the phone was awoke on this time.
I've already frozen Motorola apps, did all the recommended settings - that I had on my old phone - (location with low battery use, turned off printing services (and frozen them too), wi-fi automatic searching off, etc), I am yet to use 3G/mobile network (so far I have only used wi-fi), the screen brightness is close to the minimal (automatic brightness is off), etc, so I don't know what the problem is (and I don't want to factory reset my phone now and lose all the app settings I just redid).
I want to know if you guys have any idea of something I can do or understand the "Included Packages" used by Android System (which obviously is eating the battery, I just want to find out why and fix it).
Thank you!
Fixed it. The solution was clearing the cache of the apps listed on the Android System battery stats + doing a cache wipe on Recovery Mode.
Talked too soon, here I am with only 16% left and only 4h10m of screentime. Can anyone help?
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Talked too soon, here I am with only 16% left and only 4h10m of screentime. Can anyone help?
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Can you post your latest screenshots please? Also, go to Settings -> Battery and tap the battery graph and post a screenshot of that as well...
So I did a factory reset, reinstalled the apps, redid all the settings and did a battery calibration. Yet, I'm with 17% and only 4 hours of screentime. It's very frustrating. It's two hours less than what I used to get. And the worst is that I can't just turn the phone back and say that the battery isn't as good as my old phone one. It is either a Motorola/Android setting or I was just given a bad battery. Again, very frustrating.
I haven't been using FM Radio, DropBox (wth this NativeDropbox agent), so I don't understand these on Android System, and I'm only using wi-fi.
Any help?
I don't know what's causing it.. I had 30% left with 5h+ of screen on time yesterday, the battery life's fantastic. Without using battery saver mode aswell, I only have the brightness set to min most of the time (bright enough inside) & location off.
In my old one I'd get to 6 hours with similar settings (location was turned on though, with low battery use, and it didn't bother). I don't want to have to turn my phone into a stick to get reasonable battery life.
I'm thinking about reflashing the original rom (since it doesn't void the warranty). It will be the second reset I'll give my phone in less than a week. Do you guys think it can do something useful or will I just waste my time?
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I'm thinking about reflashing the original rom (since it doesn't void the warranty). It will be the second reset I'll give my phone in less than a week. Do you guys think it can do something useful or will I just waste my time?
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I prefer KitKat too. If you like Lollipop as a whole and the only thing bothering you is that battery drain, I suggest you get a Custom ROM which is based on Lollipop (I'm using this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/development/pf-cm-t3127531) and it's working quite fine.
If you want a Custom ROM based on KitKat, go for MicroKat ROM.
Btw, turn off auto brightness for your phone and drag the brightness slider to the minimum (or wherever you're comfortable keeping it) because detecting the surrounding light and adjusting the brightness consumes more battery. Let us know what decision you make and how the results turn out to be for you...
I've been doing some stressing tests. With location services turned off I've been able to get 5.5 hours of screentime (this was the only thing left to do on the battery saving checklist). 5.5 hours with 1% left of battery. This is still less than I used to get on my old Moto G 2014, on which I once got 6.15 hours with 3 or 4%. However, this must be some firmware bug or setting, IDK (and no one here seems to know nor care), so I guess I will only wait on a update maybe. I've tried everything but flashing a different rom. Flash a stock rom is still an option but IDK if I want to reset and do all again with the risk of it doesn't work.
Right now I just put my phone to charge with 13% and less than 4.4 hours of screentime. I might have to settle for this, but comparing to what I had it is very frustrating.
I'll update if I "fix" it or if I decide to flash the stock rom (I'm not up for flashing a modified rom because I don't want to unlock the bootloader and lose the warranty).
Actually the stock rom I mean is the firmware. Sorry about this mess up. And I'm about to do this as my last attempt of having my 6-hour-screentime-batery-life.
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Actually the stock rom I mean is the firmware. Sorry about this mess up. And I'm about to do this as my last attempt of having my 6-hour-screentime-batery-life.
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Flash stock firmware? Aren't you already on stock?
I understand not wanting to install a custom ROM but you can try performing a factory reset on your phone. In order to back up your apps to SD Card, root the phone (It can be rooted without unlocking the bootloader or losing your warranty) and back up your apps using Titanium Backup.
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Ok, I think I got it.
My Moto G XT1069 came from factory with Lollipop, so I didn't have to update OTA or anything. What I did was: I flashed via fastboot the Lollipop stock rom/firmware (one I easily got on Google, that I came to know is the OTA update from 4.4.4 > 5.0.2, as the "System version" is different of the one I used to have). This solved my battery problem. No bootload unlock needed, so no warranty void.
I guess some bug with Moto G's factory Lollipop is causing poor battery life, so for anyone's experiencing similar problems, this is what got mine fixed.
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Flash stock firmware? Aren't you already on stock?
I understand not wanting to install a custom ROM but you can try performing a factory reset on your phone. In order to back up your apps to SD Card, root the phone (It can be rooted without unlocking the bootloader or losing your warranty) and back up your apps using Titanium Backup.
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I know it is a different matter but how do I root my phone without unlocking the bootloader?
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I know it is a different matter but how do I root my phone without unlocking the bootloader?
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Try the Kingroot application. I think it's possible. Lots of videos and tutorials out there as well
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Just wanted to know, which firmware did you flash? Can you put the link on here? Glad that your issue is resolved !
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I flashed this one: https://mega.co.nz/#!MMpCGYSJ!yMa0_a1dwPgxy7aTGN78uEjgedx3Sd-eo_D2kopf5Yo
So hi all
I received my first Nexus 6 yesterday, got it charged, didn't even set it up properly (no sim card installed yet). Screen pops up to say ther's an update available to 5.1. So I did that update. Mid-update an android shows up, laying on his back and "Error". Rebooted phone... Bootloop on "optimizing apps".
Got new phone from store today, everything works. But I don't want to update again and have the same issue. Anyone knows something about bricking the Nexus 6 with factory updates? Wasn't planning on rooting or anything else. Is there any major reason to update to 5.1?
Secondly, I was reading that the Nexus 6 has a very good battery life. That's the main reason I switched from my iPhone 5 (before I had android phones) to the Nexus 6. I fully charged it today, spent 20 minutes on the phone and already 5% off, only WiFi enabled & bluetooth. Three apps installed: Facebook, Messenger & Instagram. Does the phone still have to break in or could it be that the 5.1 update fixes any battery drain issues?
Many thanks in advance!
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So hi all
I received my first Nexus 6 yesterday, got it charged, didn't even set it up properly (no sim card installed yet). Screen pops up to say ther's an update available to 5.1. So I did that update. Mid-update an android shows up, laying on his back and "Error". Rebooted phone... Bootloop on "optimizing apps".
Got new phone from store today, everything works. But I don't want to update again and have the same issue. Anyone knows something about bricking the Nexus 6 with factory updates? Wasn't planning on rooting or anything else. Is there any major reason to update to 5.1?
Secondly, I was reading that the Nexus 6 has a very good battery life. That's the main reason I switched from my iPhone 5 (before I had android phones) to the Nexus 6. I fully charged it today, spent 20 minutes on the phone and already 5% off, only WiFi enabled & bluetooth. Three apps installed: Facebook, Messenger & Instagram. Does the phone still have to break in or could it be that the 5.1 update fixes any battery drain issues?
Many thanks in advance!
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the 5.1, then the 5.1.1 updates fix MANY issues, add features, and it changes the way the cpu works, for the better..
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the 5.1, then the 5.1.1 updates fix MANY issues, add features, and it changes the way the cpu works, for the better..
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Any tips to prevent it from bricking again? It's a brand new phone in a brand new package... Don't want to go to the shop again tomorrow saying it's broken again. And I could fix it by adb & fastboot stuff but I don't want to void my warranty yet.
the battery drain is mostly related to how you personally use the phone, how you set it up, what apps you install and use, and your phone/data signal quality. keep your phones brightness down for better battery.
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Jessestr said:
Any tips to prevent it from bricking again? It's a brand new phone in a brand new package... Don't want to go to the shop again tomorrow saying it's broken again. And I could fix it by adb & fastboot stuff but I don't want to void my warranty yet.
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well, it wasnt "bricked", you just didnt know how to fix it. but no, thetes nothing you can do from that randomly happening again. but it was a random event, as the far majority of nexus 6 updated ota fine.
Jessestr said:
So hi all
I received my first Nexus 6 yesterday, got it charged, didn't even set it up properly (no sim card installed yet). Screen pops up to say ther's an update available to 5.1. So I did that update. Mid-update an android shows up, laying on his back and "Error". Rebooted phone... Bootloop on "optimizing apps".
Got new phone from store today, everything works. But I don't want to update again and have the same issue. Anyone knows something about bricking the Nexus 6 with factory updates? Wasn't planning on rooting or anything else. Is there any major reason to update to 5.1?
Secondly, I was reading that the Nexus 6 has a very good battery life. That's the main reason I switched from my iPhone 5 (before I had android phones) to the Nexus 6. I fully charged it today, spent 20 minutes on the phone and already 5% off, only WiFi enabled & bluetooth. Three apps installed: Facebook, Messenger & Instagram. Does the phone still have to break in or could it be that the 5.1 update fixes any battery drain issues?
Many thanks in advance!
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Regarding battery life, Facebook app is a huge battery killer. I suggest using the mobile site. Battery life is dependent on many things, including signal quality, apps installed, location settings, screen brightness, etc. I regularly see 5-6 hours of SOT. I keep location set to battery saving. Ambient display is turned off, because I use a custom ROM that enables the LED notification by default. My brightness is kept between 30-35% with adaptive brightness enabled. Also, I'm either on WiFi or a strong LTE signal.
Regarding your misfortune with the OTA soft brick, it is not uncommon but I doubt it will occur again on your new device. If it should, return it again. It is of no fault of yours. You should always update, as important security and system features are updated.
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Regarding battery life, Facebook app is a huge battery killer. I suggest using the mobile site. Battery life is dependent on many things, including signal quality, apps installed, location settings, screen brightness, etc. I regularly see 5-6 hours of SOT. I keep location set to battery saving. Ambient display is turned off, because I use a custom ROM that enables the LED notification by default. My brightness is kept between 30-35% with adaptive brightness enabled. Also, I'm either on WiFi or a strong LTE signal.
Regarding your misfortune with the OTA soft brick, it is not uncommon but I doubt it will occur again on your new device. If it should, return it again. It is of no fault of yours. You should always update, as important security and system features are updated.
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Thanks! Facebook wasn't even between the battery usage yet. Because I wasn't logged in yet. Messenger and Facebook (& data signal) were the apps that drained my iPhone the most, sadly enough.
Currently I was on WiFi with data disabled. To how much days does 5-6 hours SOT time translate in days? 1 or 1.5 days .. 2 days? (for you). I was having high hopes with Android again but my newly aquired Moto 360 drained in 3 hours from 80% to 6%... with almost all features turned off. Hoping to get this stuff fixed.
So I should just try to update it again?
Jessestr said:
Thanks! Facebook wasn't even between the battery usage yet. Because I wasn't logged in yet. Messenger and Facebook (& data signal) were the apps that drained my iPhone the most, sadly enough.
Currently I was on WiFi with data disabled. To how much days does 5-6 hours SOT time translate in days? 1 or 1.5 days .. 2 days? (for you). I was having high hopes with Android again but my newly aquired Moto 360 drained in 3 hours from 80% to 6%... with almost all features turned off. Hoping to get this stuff fixed.
So I should just try to update it again?
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I'm in the "extreme" category as far as usage goes. So, my 5-6 hours of Screen On Time translates to about 15-18 hours of use/standby. For less frequent use, you should easily see 1-1.5 days on a charge, if not more.
Yes, update. There's nothing you can do to prevent it from happening. Well, maybe not nothing...
You could unlock your bootloader, and never worry about updates again.
Jessestr said:
Thanks! Facebook wasn't even between the battery usage yet. Because I wasn't logged in yet. Messenger and Facebook (& data signal) were the apps that drained my iPhone the most, sadly enough.
Currently I was on WiFi with data disabled. To how much days does 5-6 hours SOT time translate in days? 1 or 1.5 days .. 2 days? (for you). I was having high hopes with Android again but my newly aquired Moto 360 drained in 3 hours from 80% to 6%... with almost all features turned off. Hoping to get this stuff fixed.
So I should just try to update it again?
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a little story about facebook.. the last time i had facebook on any of my devices was in 2011. i had it on bith my nexus phones and tablet at the time. as far as i could remember, it always drained my battery. i had it on my nexus 7 for 2 months. one day i noticed it drained 25%. the funny thing was that i never ever logged into my account on the tablet, ever. i started niticing that it drained anywhere from 8-30% battery, without me ever using. after a week or so of this, i uninstalled the facebook app from all of my devices, and have been using the site since. btw, facebook is one of the top 5 apps that will drain your battery, even if you dont ever use.
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Jessestr said:
Thanks! Facebook wasn't even between the battery usage yet. Because I wasn't logged in yet. Messenger and Facebook (& data signal) were the apps that drained my iPhone the most, sadly enough.
Currently I was on WiFi with data disabled. To how much days does 5-6 hours SOT time translate in days? 1 or 1.5 days .. 2 days? (for you). I was having high hopes with Android again but my newly aquired Moto 360 drained in 3 hours from 80% to 6%... with almost all features turned off. Hoping to get this stuff fixed.
So I should just try to update it again?
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my phone uses about 5.5-6.5 hours sot. for me, thats about a day, but im a very heavy user. we all use our phones differently, so 5h sot will mean different things to different people.
simms22 said:
a little story about facebook.. the last time i had facebook on any of my devices was in 2011. i had it on bith my nexus phones and tablet at the time. as far as i could remember, it always drained my battery. i had it on my nexus 7 for 2 months. one day i noticed it drained 25%. the funny thing was that i never ever logged into my account on the tablet, ever. i started niticing that it drained anywhere from 8-30% battery, without me ever using. after a week or so of this, i uninstalled the facebook app from all of my devices, and have been using the site since. btw, facebook is one of the top 5 apps that will drain your battery, even if you dont ever use.
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my phone uses about 5.5-6.5 hours sot. for me, thats about a day, but im a very heavy user. we all use our phones differently, so 5h sot will mean different things to different people.
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Oh okay. Maybe I should remove the Facebook app. I only use it when I'm bored. Will leave messenger installed for now.
In meantime I successfully installed 5.1. Now on to 5.1.1 or does it have the same battery drain issue as the android wear one?
Jessestr said:
Oh okay. Maybe I should remove the Facebook app. I only use it when I'm bored. Will leave messenger installed for now.
In meantime I successfully installed 5.1. Now on to 5.1.1 or does it have the same battery drain issue as the android wear one?
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android wear, i have no idea, sorry. but 5.1.1 is better
Jessestr said:
Oh okay. Maybe I should remove the Facebook app. I only use it when I'm bored. Will leave messenger installed for now.
In meantime I successfully installed 5.1. Now on to 5.1.1 or does it have the same battery drain issue as the android wear one?
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No battery drain issues here.
All updates installed. Battery life got good, also fixed my moto 360 install. Both devices can stay on for much longer! Feels good !