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Hey guys--
I'm stumped on if this is possible, but I feel like my old Razr HD worked like this. If anyone has a way in the form of an app, Xposed module, etc, it'd be very appreciated.
Desired Behavior: Google Now should always speak to me, regardless of ringtone volume. She should be on her own separate volume control, or at least linked to media volume control.
Current Behavior: Google Now is linked to ringtone/notification/system volume. Since I almost always keep my phone on vibrate only, Google Now won't talk to me. Considering the point of touchless control, this is absolutely infuriating. I feel like I shouldn't have to be "that guy" that has his phone on full volume just to hear the Now voice.
There must be a better way! Who can help me out? Thanks!
I'm with you on this one, I keep my phone on silent all the time so I'd like that as well.
I've sent an email to Google, hopefully they will update that
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I guess empoweredh and I are the only ones that care about this? Lol
Come on guys, send Google feedback about this
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Apparently.
Tell you what....I'll start a bounty. $25 for an Xposed module or some other easy way to accomplish this. Basically anything that doesn't involve a custom rom or developer edition. If it can be done on a retail maxx in stock ROM I'll pay out. We'll see if anyone else wants to join/help.
Accidental duplicate post. Edited.
I think if enough of us complain Google will change it. Or they might change it on their own.
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Jamolah said:
I guess empoweredh and I are the only ones that care about this? Lol
Come on guys, send Google feedback about this
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Apparently.
Tell you what....I'll start a bounty. $25 for an Xposed module or some other easy way to accomplish this. Basically anything that doesn't involve a custom rom or developer edition. If it can be done on a retail maxx in stock ROM I'll pay out. We'll see if anyone else wants to join/help.
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Just wanted to see if this had reached a resolution. Also wanted throw my hat into the ring as wanting this.
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I'm pretty interested in seeing this done too. I haven't received my phone yet, I generally keep my phone on silent or vibrate while at work, and I know I will want to talk to Google - and hear Google's responses when my phone is in that mode.
I sent google an email as well. Hopefully something comes of it.
Agreed! Would love to see this too!
I've looked, but couldn't find, any kind of feature request page for google? Anyone know if there is one?
I am with you guys! Saw this thread and I had not notcied this before since I have it on full volume as of now.
Maybe use something like tasker to set the ringtone to a certain level when google opens?
I experienced a mute Google Now last night and was stumped. Now I see this thread and it all makes sense.
There is an Xposed module that unlinks the notification and ringtone volumes (link). I'm not rooted yet but someone could test which volume Google Now reacts to, so a least part of the problem gets fixed. And maybe ask the developer make an update that addresses that. Tasker is also a good idea, but more cumbersome. Could be a plan B.
I'll throw in 15$ to the bounty
Well I got it to work with Tasker.
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Event: Variable Set %WIN
Task:
Ringer Volume: Level 6, If %WIN=Google
Ringer Volume: Level 6, If %WIN=Voice Search
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I put two ringer volume task because for some reason, when I open voice search it'll be identified as "Google" and vise versa.
Note: I used the Event as the First Context because for some reason I couldn't get the Application Context to work with Google and Voice Search.
I hope that helps some of you. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Well I got it to work with Tasker.
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Event: Variable Set %WIN
Task:
Ringer Volume: Level 6, If %WIN=Google
Ringer Volume: Level 6, If %WIN=Voice Search
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I put two ringer volume task because for some reason, when I open voice search it'll be identified as "Google" and vise versa.
Note: I used the Event as the First Context because for some reason I couldn't get the Application Context to work with Google and Voice Search.
I hope that helps some of you. Let me know if you have any questions.
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Does this also revert the settings back when you exit? I have limited knowledge of tasker but to me it doesn't seem like it would. Also if this one of the profiles that requires you to be rooted?
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No this should not need to be done through tasker. it should be part of the OS
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Jamolah said:
No this should not need to be done through tasker. it should be part of the OS
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I think we all would greatly prefer it be a part of the OS. That's doesn't mean we can't use a work around that was generously provided until it's fixed.
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garciaw said:
I experienced a mute Google Now last night and was stumped. Now I see this thread and it all makes sense.
There is an Xposed module that unlinks the notification and ringtone volumes (link). I'm not rooted yet but someone could test which volume Google Now reacts to, so a least part of the problem gets fixed. And maybe ask the developer make an update that addresses that. Tasker is also a good idea, but more cumbersome. Could be a plan B.
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expanded/seperated volumes using gravitybox and it seems to be linked to the notification volume
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Does this also revert the settings back when you exit? I have limited knowledge of tasker but to me it doesn't seem like it would. Also if this one of the profiles that requires you to be rooted?
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My original tasker will not revert to the original ringer volume.
Also, I'm pretty sure this particular task does not need root access.
New code with Ringer Volume being set back to original:
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Event: Variable Set %WIN
Task Gnow:
If %WIN ~ (matches) Google
Variable Set: Name: %PREVOLR to %VOLR
Ringer Volume: Level 6
Wait: 10 minutes, Until %WIN !~ Google
Ringer Volume: %PREVOLR
Task Gvoice:
If %WIN ~ (matches) Voice Search
Variable Set: Name: %PREVOLR to %VOLR
Ringer Volume: Level 6
Wait: 10 minutes, Until %WIN !~ Voice Search
Ringer Volume: %PREVOLR
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Event contexts do not have exit tasks, so just add the Gnow task and then Gvoice task to the Event.
Normally the Ringer Volume Action will only display a slid-able bar to change the Ringer Volume.
Go into Tasker > Preferences
Make sure beginner mode is off
Go back into the Ringer Volume Action settings, and press and hold the "Shuffle" icon and then release after a bit.
This will change the slidable bar to a blank field.
Edit: fixedd!
Hope that works out better for you guys
So from what i can tell phones using DSP chips will be able to use ok google now from stock android. Our Moto X's do use that for the Motorola assist features. Does this mean that android lollipop could help go around moto assist? I don't like the delays that Moto assist comes with, and getting to use Google now through stock would be amazing. They only mention that Nexus 6 and 9, will be able to use it, but i don't see why our phone wouldn't be able to.
It might be able to in theory, but is it possible to disable assist? Havent got the phone so i dont know lol
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It might be able to in theory, but is it possible to disable assist? Havent got the phone so i dont know lol
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Yes, assist can be disabled. The problem is because assist and the files for it are installed, it disables one from saying "ok, google" and letting google now take over. Assist needs to be on if you want to do voice related things. Unless I'm missing something, I haven't found a way to allow google now voice commands to work with assist on or off
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If you disable Moto Voice, Google Search "Ok Google" will work just fine....
I know if you turn moto assist off it will allow ok google hotword with the google launcher. So hopefully the files that allow lollipop to use dsp chip will be included in the software, so it doesn't have to be integrated into moto voice. Cant wait for Lollipop, had L with my Nexus and coming back to kitkat was like a slap to the face.
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If you disable Moto Voice, Google Search "Ok Google" will work just fine....
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I know if you turn moto assist off it will allow ok google hotword with the google launcher. So hopefully the files that allow lollipop to use dsp chip will be included in the software, so it doesn't have to be integrated into moto voice. Cant wait for Lollipop, had L with my Nexus and coming back to kitkat was like a slap to the face.
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Strange...failed for me before. I'll try again
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Strange...failed for me before. I'll try again
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I know that on the 2013 X this did not work. There is an internal, hidden config flag in Google Search that lists the devices on which hotword detection is permanently disabled -- meaning that nothing you did to to moto touchless controls would help.
That being said, there is an app out there, UnleashTheGoogle, that will un-hide all of the hidden settings in Google Search and then you can just remove your phone from the blacklist (if the '14 X is in there)
So after the recent Moto Voice update, i can't get the Google Now hot word Detection to work at all. Going into Google Settings to try to train it to listen to me, it won't activate the mic at all to listen to me, completely refuses too. Plus, to top it off, Moto Voice now says "Opening Google" Whenever it is too retarded to be able to do what i want it to with my voice, which is ridiculous. I Force closed Moto Voice, and the google now search bar had the mic showing that it was ready for voice. (The filled in one.) but did not respond to Ok Google, and by the time i went to train it, Moto Voice had restarted. I might try freezing Moto Voice with Titanium and seeing if i can get google now to work then. All in all, this is disappointing as it stands.
Ok! So Freezing the Moto Voice app did it for me. (That or yelling ok google at my phone for 5-10 minutes in the training voice part of Google Now Voice Settings.) Regardless i can activate Ok Google again from any screen. Though, my Google Now Settings includes the check box for google searching from the Lock Screen, it doesn't seem to work. That might come with Lollipop proper... -crosses fingers.
Edit: It will allow it to Google Search from lockscreen , But not with sound off... that is the feature that might come with Lollipop.
Hey everyone,
So I got my new Moto X yesterday and I have some questions, particularly with Moto Voice. After watching videos online, and reading some various articles/websites, I have been trying to various voice commands to see what happens . However, there are certain ones that are not being recognized. For example, whenever I say "Good Night", it just brings up a Google search instead of "putting my phone to sleep". Also, "Good Morning" brings up a Google search, and the one that I am really bummed doesn't work is, "Talk to me" where it supposedly reads your notifications aloud for a given amount of time. Anyone know if these commands got pulled from the build or if I'm just missing something?
Also, in the Accessibility settings, there is an option to turn on or off "Moto Voice". What is this setting changing, because it doesn't seem to be affecting anything?
Thanks for your help everyone!
1 more unrelated question, are you guys running your phones on ART or Dalvik?
I have the exact same issues with "goodnight /good morning" I can't get them to work no mate what I try.
Had these issues too..
Fix: simply update all the moto stuff via Playstore!
In the accessibility settings moto voice needs to be "on" for it to work properly..
Moto needs this to read from/control other apps! E.g. if you say "play mozart on youtube"..
Edit: In Playstore under "my Apps" you won't find those apps to update. Instead you have to search for "moto"! Seems to be a Playstore bug.
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I updated all of the moto apps it still won't recognize the command goodnight or good morning
Edit: I was able to get the phrases to work by uninstalling the moto voice and re installing it. It now works without a problem
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I updated all of the moto apps it still won't recognize the command goodnight or good morning
Edit: I was able to get the phrases to work by uninstalling the moto voice and re installing it. It now works without a problem
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I tried them all....still not working for me
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I tried them all....still not working for me
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Uninstall moto voice and re install it after it's done restart the phone and see if that would solve it. If that still doesn't work i'm not sure how else it could be solved.
Is there a possibility of stopping Moto Voice to say "opening google.." every time it passes the command to ggl search?
It didn't do that before i updated moto voice. And is really annoying
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It is. I'm also finding out that the "what's up?" command is very hit or miss. Sometimes it reads my notifications and others it just looks up "what's up" in Google.
I am also looking for the answer for shutting down "opening google"...can someone tell us how, please! Thanks!
This is from the update right? Id uninstall the updates. Revert back to the old version
But the old version is really bugy and missing many commands like "good morning" "talk to me" "good night" etc.
All in all the update is very good! Only "opening google.." disturbs me
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It is. I'm also finding out that the "what's up?" command is very hit or miss. Sometimes it reads my notifications and others it just looks up "what's up" in Google.
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The command is supposed to be "what's new?" I think. The video tutorial says what's up, but the command list says what's new.
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The command is supposed to be "what's new?" I think. The video tutorial says what's up, but the command list says what's new.
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I think it depends on your system language.
For me in English(US) it is "what's up?" and in German it is "Was gibt's Neues?"
So i would say "What's new?" Is for English(UK) may be..
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I hate this so much.
OliveJeans said:
But the old version is really bugy and missing many commands like "good morning" "talk to me" "good night" etc.
All in all the update is very good! Only "opening google.." disturbs me
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None of those commands work for me. Good morning, good night, talk to me, they all just come back with opening Google followed by a Google search result in those words.
Hating that opening Google part.
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Im also hating this "opening google" makes me feel like it took away what made this phone special. Its like now the only thing special is i can wake it up with my voice when the screen is off
Well, Google is grabbing just about everything that Motorola developed and adding it into lollipop.
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Well, Google is grabbing just about everything that Motorola developed and adding it into lollipop.
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Gotta take advantage of all that intellectual property while you still can.
I get it and they probably developed it all while owning Motorola, but it will likely unlock "me" to buying outside of Motorola again if they can simulate active notifications, assist, and voice well enough. First time I've bought the same manufacturer back to back in the past four years and 8-10 phones.
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Gotta take advantage of all that intellectual property while you still can.
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Google keeps the intellectual property. That's all they wanted with the purchase, and they aren't giving it up with the sale.
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opening google
Also hate "Opening Google" can't wait for lilipop to enable okay Google natively on my Moto X from standby (off) mode.
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Also hate "Opening Google" can't wait for lilipop to enable okay Google natively on my Moto X from standby (off) mode.
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If i have to wait that, i will sell my moto x.
I bought this for the voice command instead of my beautifull Nexus 5. I paied 499€ to have a nexus 5.2 with wood back? No thank's.
Opening google !!!
Yeah, this last update to Voice addressed the latency issues, but created a whole new set of problems as "set alarm" now just gets passed to Google instead of actually setting the alarm. If I have to actually click "Set Alarm" on the resulting Google search page, it kind of defeats the point of having it be a voice command. I'm hoping that their "solution" for the high latency of the original version wasn't simply punting and handing everything over to Google.
Motorola needs to get a third rev of this out, hopefully without regression bugs. And from their forums, it looks like they're on the case.
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Yeah, this last update to Voice addressed the latency issues, but created a whole new set of problems as "set alarm" now just gets passed to Google instead of actually setting the alarm. If I have to actually click "Set Alarm" on the resulting Google search page, it kind of defeats the point of having it be a voice command. I'm hoping that their "solution" for the high latency of the original version wasn't simply punting and handing everything over to Google.
Motorola needs to get a third rev of this out, hopefully without regression bugs. And from their forums, it looks like they're on the case.
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According to a bunch of android tech blogs, it seems the issue with setting alarms and timers is with Google's search update. Though, it would be nice if moto voice could set alarms and timers went without Google now's help.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/10/google-search-experiencing-timer-alarm-setting-problems.html
I used to gave problems with "good morning" & "Good night" but figured out the trick recently
Do not give a break between good and morning/night. Say it in one word like goodmorning or goodnight and it works everytime(atleast for me)
and for time being, we can avoid the opening google sound by creating a tasker profile which will set the media volume to 0 for 2 seconds whenever google search is opening
Does anyone know of a way to disable Moto Voice and simply use the voice wake to activate Google Now? Perhaps via an Xposed module?
Moto Voice, in it's current iteration is too slow and not value added enough for me to prefer it over Google Now. Plus, if I hear "Opening Google" one more time, I'm going to go crazy.
Tykin said:
Does anyone know of a way to disable Moto Voice and simply use the voice wake to activate Google Now? Perhaps via an Xposed module?
Moto Voice, in it's current iteration is too slow and not value added enough for me to prefer it over Google Now. Plus, if I hear "Opening Google" one more time, I'm going to go crazy.
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it's pretty simple: open the Moto App, tap the Settings button on top right, tap the Voice button/icon and uncheck the Launch phrase. you might have to setup up voice activation on Google Now. like you i prefer Google Now for the time being. hope this was helpful.:good:
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it's pretty simple: open the Moto App, tap the Settings button on top right, tap the Voice button/icon and uncheck the Launch phrase. you might have to setup up voice activation on Google Now. like you i prefer Google Now for the time being. hope this was helpful.:good:
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That will disable the voice wake. I'm looking for a way to jump straight into Google Now anytime I say my Moto Voice launch phrase.
OK, yeah that's different. Interpreted that you wanted to just go to Google Now. With my suggestion, saying "OK Google" takes you to Google Now (vs your moto launch phase).
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Do you have the pure edition or carrier? Pure if you root there is a way to do it, if its carrier and locked you can't, sorry. Hopefully Lollipop will make it possible too, Nexus 6 has ambient display to rip off active display, and will use the always listening chip it has to act like moto voice, but built into google now.
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Do you have the pure edition or carrier? Pure if you root there is a way to do it, if its carrier and locked you can't, sorry. Hopefully Lollipop will make it possible too, Nexus 6 has ambient display to rip off active display, and will use the always listening chip it has to act like moto voice, but built into google now.
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can you share your "tip" to make this happen? I have a rooted Pure version.
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can you share your "tip" to make this happen? I have a rooted Pure version.
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Here is the link to the reddit discussion about it, i didn't manage to get it set up myself, cause i dislike Xposed and prefer to use ART. OkGoogleNowTrigger
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Here is the link to the reddit discussion about it, i didn't manage to get it set up myself, cause i dislike Xposed and prefer to use ART. OkGoogleNowTrigger
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Thanks! Now I need to figure out if I want to root my phone now or wait for L and Xposed to run on ART.
Lollipop is supposed to be able to do ok google from screen off with phones using the always listening chips. The nexus 6 and 9 are supposed to use it with theirs. I'm still hoping that our moto's well be able to use it as part of stock android so i don't have to use moto voice at all. Only i don't know if they intend to add custom phrase support, which i could stand losing. Though i concur about ART xposed, that i can't wait for.