[Q] EU new VAT tax - App Stores

Hi,
As you probably heard, Google Play will start to automatically charge and remit VAT for EU countries in January 2015.
I always thought that Google was handling VAT taxes like Apple but they’re not.
I don’t sell much in Europe but a lot more in countries like Australia, Canada, Singapore where there might be taxes as well that I have not been paying for a while.
So my question is, have I been selling apps illegally all this time? And if I am, what can I do now to make this right?
Additionally, it seems that I can set tax rates through the Google Wallet Merchant console but I don’t understand why. What happens if I do set tax rates? Will Google deduct them from my final revenue?
Thanks for your help.

You should not set taxes, IMO. Thats up to Google. VAT is 20%in the EU! If you put it on and Google put it on that's 40%! As Google are responsible for the tax it's up to them to add it. If you supplied a bricks and mortar store you would not add it to the invoice to the store. It's the end seller who does, Tyne the store.

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Taxes on the Android Market?

I went to purchase an app today which was $.99. But at Google check out it added $.07 for taxes. I was a little confused because I dont remember paying any taxes on any other of my apps I have bought. I went and looked at my Google Checkout to make sure and I was right. All my apps I ever bought were never taxed. So is it certain apps/devs that get taxed or was it something just added? Do the devs get the tax or a % of it?
What state do you live in? What state does the developer trade from? Are they the same?
Sistum Id said:
Do the devs get the tax or a % of it?
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Nope, far from it lol.
My app sells for £1.50 on the market, but google takes off 45p each sale.
Butt yeah, i think some countries might tax the currency conversion or something, i dunno.
it basicly depends where you are. i dnt get taxed most of the time for online orders but i know other states that do tax that sort of thing
In my case I am taxed 1€ for each transaction done in $ ....
But this is not a Google Checkout tax, but from my bank card (french visa, Societe Generale).
(Though I have not such problem with Paypal... I think paypal does the convertion itself, so my card is always debited in €)

ASUS launch Official NEXUS 7 16G in HONG KONG with price HKD2398~USD309.11

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HONG KONG have not consumption tax, sale tax, etc
and HONG KONG have not sale Nexus though play store
only can buy in local electronic store, so no extra shipping free too
but the price is HKD2398~USD309.11
seems will have stock on next week
don't know why hong kong have a US60+ price
as hong kong already no tax and extra shipping
and if you buy the nexus from aus, you should know the nexus 7 is shipping from HONG KONG
poor HK people
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I don't know the point of your post.
But consider that shipping cost from the states to Asia cost anywhere usd20-50. The added cost is quite reasonable to sell it for 50 more.
I doubt any seller will sell without profit...
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ygvuhb said:
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HONG KONG have not consumption tax, sale tax, etc
and HONG KONG have not sale Nexus though play store
only can buy in local electronic store, so no extra shipping free too
but the price is HKD2398~USD309.11
seems will have stock on next week
don't know why hong kong have a US60+ price
as hong kong already no tax and extra shipping
and if you buy the nexus from aus, you should know the nexus 7 is shipping from HONG KONG
poor HK people
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I am.also come from Hong Kong.
Don't ask why that the price is $2397 someone said that Asus Hong Kong set this price is because of someone can use a similar prices to get one nexus 7.
So, if you hate this price, please don't buy it.
The price is acceptable.
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piepie22 said:
I don't know the point of your post.
But consider that shipping cost from the states to Asia cost anywhere usd20-50. The added cost is quite reasonable to sell it for 50 more.
I doubt any seller will sell without profit...
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the nexus 7 is made in usa? not china?
tommykwan222 said:
I am.also come from Hong Kong.
Don't ask why that the price is $2397 someone said that Asus Hong Kong set this price is because of someone can use a similar prices to get one nexus 7.
So, if you hate this price, please don't buy it.
The price is acceptable.
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sure wont buy and wait price drop
as nexus s and galaxy nexus both have very quick and large price drop history in HONG KONG
not related this topic
already no hong kong offical galaxy nexus sell in hong kong
so now buy galaxy nexus in hong kong are import goods which have to paid local store for repair (not samsung hk) when the phone have problem
hope google will care more about Hong kong and sell nexus devices in hong kong play store
and add book movie , now only apps in hong kong play store, i.e. nexus 7 can not use tablet services
apple store hk already launch moive and song this year
piepie22 said:
I don't know the point of your post.
But consider that shipping cost from the states to Asia cost anywhere usd20-50. The added cost is quite reasonable to sell it for 50 more.
I doubt any seller will sell without profit...
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uhhh... its not shipping from the states to Asia... look on your nexus 7 box, its made in China.
therefore unreasonable.
I had a similar issue with google too. I'm in Australia, and yet despite our country being closer to the location of manufacture, and despite our currency being more or less on par with the US currency, we still had to fork out an extra $50 as well.
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What's a "trail will"?
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my bad english
it is a metting, asus give a few nexus 7 to people try it
@ Downwiththebanksters Your English is pretty good for a Taiwanese. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually half-Taiwanese and go to Taiwan frequently to visit my relatives but I rarely meet anyone with even passable English
Back to topic, I seriously doubt the Nexus 7 that is going to be sold in Hong Kong is through official channels. Reason being as Google said, this device is made for the Play Store. So much so that the user experience for people living outside the US and UK is watered down and definitely not as fun. Hence, to introduce it prematurely, before Google manages to settle the copyright issues and publication issues especially with its arch-enemy; the Chinese Government, Hong Kong as you may be. Would be counter to what they are trying to do with the Nexus line of products.
Having said that however, there is still a small possibility Asus may sell it in Hong Kong, however, I think they would go official in Taiwan before they do so in Hong Kong.
Juoin1001 said:
@ Downwiththebanksters Your English is pretty good for a Taiwanese. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually half-Taiwanese and go to Taiwan frequently to visit my relatives but I rarely meet anyone with even passable English
Back to topic, I seriously doubt the Nexus 7 that is going to be sold in Hong Kong is through official channels. Reason being as Google said, this device is made for the Play Store. So much so that the user experience for people living outside the US and UK is watered down and definitely not as fun. Hence, to introduce it prematurely, before Google manages to settle the copyright issues and publication issues especially with its arch-enemy; the Chinese Government, Hong Kong as you may be. Would be counter to what they are trying to do with the Nexus line of products.
Having said that however, there is still a small possibility Asus may sell it in Hong Kong, however, I think they would go official in Taiwan before they do so in Hong Kong.
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you can email to ASUS get a comfirm
ASUS reply me and said Nexus 7 sell in HK this quarter
and a samll amount nexus 7 will start sell on this week
ygvuhb said:
you can email to ASUS get a comfirm
ASUS reply me and said Nexus 7 sell in HK this quarter
and a samll amount nexus 7 will start sell on this week
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Well then thats great news for people living in Hong Kong. :victory:
Now, wonder if they will launch in other Asian countries as well...
tommykwan222 said:
Well, I am not interested in the galaxy nexus as is made by samsung.
But I don't think the price will drop in the future, the cost of shipping the nexus 7 to.Hong Kong is nearly $2200.
If the price is realy drop, it maybe just around $100 only.
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price hkd2200 is us249 plus a forwarder airfreight cost from us to hong hong and it is just one nexus 7
the actual freight cost from china to US are packed many nexus 7 in containers and ship to US thought seafreight
and nexus 7 in containers from china to hong kong just use truck, much cheaper
if only compare that hong kong's nexus 7 have more potential prices drop, at least should back to normal price similar US249
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Well then thats great news for people living in Hong Kong. :victory:
Now, wonder if they will launch in other Asian countries as well...
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is Taiwan play store have not pay apps?
that may be the reason of nexus7 available in hong kong first
don‘t blame the price, in sydney, we are crying, plus I am a hong konger lol
eminemkh said:
don‘t blame the price, in sydney, we are crying, plus I am a hong konger lol
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how much in aus
plus tax and shipping in play store
any store sell it?
ygvuhb said:
is Taiwan play store have not pay apps?
that may be the reason of nexus7 available in hong kong first
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The Play Store does not allow payments here in Taiwan because the government insists on consumer protection. They require all purchases, software included, to have a 7 day money back if not satisfied guarantee. When they enforced this policy a little over a year ago Apple immediately changed it's return policy and complied with Taiwanese law, while Google has decided to stick with it's foolish 30 minute policy. While I have little love for Apple, Google, with it's close CIA ties, does not hold the consumer/humanity in as much esteem as the folks in Cupertino do. I have spoken with several developers about this and they say the 30min rule was designed to attract/mollify game developers by preventing folks from downloading games and then deleting them for refund after they "win"/complete them. Someone once said that it sometimes takes more than 30 minutes just to set download and some programs up! All that said, right now the Play store here is crippled by a well meaning government and an intransigent Google.
Juoin1001 said:
@ Downwiththebanksters Your English is pretty good for a Taiwanese. Don't get me wrong, I'm actually half-Taiwanese and go to Taiwan frequently to visit my relatives but I rarely meet anyone with even passable English
Back to topic, I seriously doubt the Nexus 7 that is going to be sold in Hong Kong is through official channels. Reason being as Google said, this device is made for the Play Store. So much so that the user experience for people living outside the US and UK is watered down and definitely not as fun. Hence, to introduce it prematurely, before Google manages to settle the copyright issues and publication issues especially with its arch-enemy; the Chinese Government, Hong Kong as you may be. Would be counter to what they are trying to do with the Nexus line of products.
Having said that however, there is still a small possibility Asus may sell it in Hong Kong, however, I think they would go official in Taiwan before they do so in Hong Kong.
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So with my above comments you bring an interesting wrinkle to the discussion about Taiwan's Play Store and how Google's Senior Vice President of Weasels and Thieves, no doubt a visionary leader, sees the seven day rule. You can see insisting on the 30min rule may have been forward looking to the eventual launch of media. I might be able to get as much as I want from a digital copy of The New Yorker in 30mins, delete it and not pay, but with 7 days I could make a leisurely read of it. I could also watch the uncut version of Seediq Bale 40 times in one week and not pay. Likewise with music. I don't know how returns/refunds/cancellations are handled in iTunes but I'm guessing Apple consumers love to spend money and show it off, so may be less likely to abuse the refund policy (perhaps simply not smart enough to figure it out?). The Android side may be more attractive to those of us who like free, open, and donate our meager excesses to ROM devs, The Pirate Party, and The Electronic Frontier Foundation. or ?
The arguments about the Play Store content aside, i.e. Google views the N7 in the same way Amazon sells the Kindle at a loss to get folks to consume media, I honestly think Google did this to simply drive market share by making a truly great affordable tablet. To ascribe profit motive to Google seems almost far fetched as the open source nature of Android makes it a loss to Google. The Android tablet's have struggled to gain traction, and so I think all that the N7 is: affordable, great hardware, buttery, is an attempt to get a large amount of people to get their first tablet. In the ecosystem wars these tablets will not only build market share, but also mind share in the tablet space, which up until now has been dominated by Apple. I have to refer to the N7 as an iPad to most folks, including my Taiwanese wife; to call it a tablet draws blank stares. So you are right when you view the Play Store as being an integral component of the sale of this device in the dying empires, but the population of the "West", whatever that means, comes in well under a billion. I think Google sees us out here in the rest of the world, the other 6ish billion of us, as an important market too.
Traditionally Apple has had between 10-12% of the market - the Gossip Girl types - who will always need to, and can, pay more for the "Apple experience". Apple's business model, which is based on high prices burnishing the brand, brings it's main goal of high margins. I can't see them changing. Affordable has no cachet. That leaves Google, with it's open source model, to harvest the 99%. I think that is what the N7 is truly about, and thus think Goog teamed with Asus to sell this because they needed Asus's global retail presence; something Google neither has, nor wants, to shift a ton of these devices. They said, "Lets tweak the Kindle model a bit to fit our plans and take it global." This is Google's shot across the iPad's bow, as is the Micro$oft Surface. Oh, and will there be a 7" iPad?
That went way into the weeds on what this thread is actually about, but that is my NT$0.6, and an answer to your question about why/if the N7 should, and will, come to Asia and the rest of the world sooner than later.
All that said are we back to thinking the HK retailers are not selling these tablets with the full permission of Google and/or Asus? Fortress is not known for selling grey market product is it?
It's still cheaper
Dear All,
I didn't wait and I purchased my N7 from Canada from BestBuy when they had pre-orders. I paid CAN$249.99 + tax + environmental fee was $294. Which at time of currency exchange to HK$2,300. I've yet to receive it as my relatives are not back from Canada to Hong Kong. I knew Nexus products in Hong Kong would take some time to get to market but this time was quite fast. I wanted to wait till it came to Hong Kong but the reviews and the "Butter" smooth UI was hard to resist. I was surpirsed to see it in the local newspaper it was selling for less then $2400 at Fortress. To enlighten some posters on Hong Kong electronics. If any of the "Big Electronic" stores (Broadway, Fortress, Gome, Wilson Electonics etc.) sells ANY electronic item it an official item from the respective manufacturer (eg. ASUS Hong Kong) distributed through the local authorized dealers such as the "Big Electronic" stores. Therefore, it is not a grey market / water down product. Also, Hong Kong and China are separate in terms of how all the retail business is carried out. Why is Hong Kong always one of the first to receive any mobile or electronic item? We actually sell authorized genuine products and manufacturers trust the Hong Kong retailers. In China, well...you know the story. We also have a market that has a large turn over rate as we are hungry for electronics. A large percentage of consumers switch for new models all the time as there is a large second hand market to make money to subsidize or appetite for new electronics. Electronics in Hong Kong will be more inexpensive for most items since we don't have sales tax on top of the MSRP. In the States and Canada, you slap the tax on and it is a different story. It is the norm to wait for 2-3 months when price drops by half or more when new models come into the market. The rate of new products that actually hit retail is really fast whereas in U.S. and Canada you have to wait and wait and wait.....which by the time it reaches retail level your behind again.
At the end, it doesn't matter when you get your product but what product you chosen that is the best suits yourself is the mpost important thing.
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the nexus 7 is made in usa? not china?
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Sorry, I don't mean any disrespect in last post.
But I am just saying regardless of where it is shipped from.
If you must buy from Google US store, and consider the middle man profit.
Then the shipping cost is quite reasonable for $2400.
P.S. I am no seller, so don't bash me on that.
I too wish "GOOGLE" should sell direct to HK and China market.
It was the same case with Nexus One when it was released, HK/China market were never Google's priority.
I brought directly from Google Store,and the shipping to Asia cost me a fortune :'(
I think they should be more like Apple, which is doing a great job.
Their iPad/iPhone either ship direct from Shenzhen or Singapore to HK,
Which is much more reasonable... maybe we should start a online petition?
piepie22 said:
Sorry, I don't mean any disrespect in last post.
But I am just saying regardless of where it is shipped from.
If you must buy from Google US store, and consider the middle man profit.
Then the shipping cost is quite reasonable for $2400.
P.S. I am no seller, so don't bash me on that.
I too wish "GOOGLE" should sell direct to HK and China market.
It was the same case with Nexus One when it was released, HK/China market were never Google's priority.
I brought directly from Google Store,and the shipping to Asia cost me a fortune :'(
I think they should be more like Apple, which is doing a great job.
Their iPad/iPhone either ship direct from Shenzhen or Singapore to HK,
Which is much more reasonable... maybe we should start a online petition?
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I dunno about it not being Google's priority as much as it is the Chicoms do not want anything they can't censor or flat out control. They have created their own twitterfacebookgoogle and make it hard to use, or completely firewall off "western" services. All Chinese SGS2's came stuck with Baidu as the search engine instead of Google, so Google knows exactly where it's corporate priorities are. As I'm an anti globalist, and thus firmly believe in protecting national industries in order to maintain full employment and GDP, this protectionism may have benefits....but what Google provides is simply truth, facts, and opinion . Truth is a universal human right! To paraphrase Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men: "Chicoms* can't handle the truth."
And so we're back to thinking this is an official launch for the N7 as Fortress is a proper venue for a launch?
*the party, not the people...remember that Jackie Chan!
Hi
Has there been an official announcement about this? I have not seen any press releases for this. Where are you getting your information from OP?
BTW the HK$2.4k mark I think is roughly what I thought they would charge, if that is the case.
Incidentally you can buy it from B&H or Adorama for about US$300 with shipping included (c. HK$2,340), however at present they don't have any stock.
Fortress won't...
downwiththebanksters said:
I dunno about it not being Google's priority as much as it is the Chicoms do not want anything they can't censor or flat out control. They have created their own twitterfacebookgoogle and make it hard to use, or completely firewall off "western" services. All Chinese SGS2's came stuck with Baidu as the search engine instead of Google, so Google knows exactly where it's corporate priorities are. As I'm an anti globalist, and thus firmly believe in protecting national industries in order to maintain full employment and GDP, this protectionism may have benefits....but what Google provides is simply truth, facts, and opinion . Truth is a universal human right! To paraphrase Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men: "Chicoms* can't handle the truth."
And so we're back to thinking this is an official launch for the N7 as Fortress is a proper venue for a launch?
*the party, not the people...remember that Jackie Chan!
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All official launches are by the manufacturers themselves with the help of some media at a specific location other then the big electronic stores. They usually have the sexy local models which is a good perk.

[Q] Google Play app VAT/Sales Tax

**Really sorry if I shouldn't have asked a question here, but wherever I try to post it, it pops up with a message saying it's not a Q&A forum, but I can't see where I should put it, plus the answer would be really useful to others I should imagine**
Hi
Just over a week ago I released my first Android app, I made an ad supported free version, and a paid version with no ads in it.
Since having a look around the settings in my Google Merchant account, I discovered a section about setting tax rates for my apps.
I have been through the hassle of getting the rates for each country I want my apps sold in.
I am wondering whether that was the correct thing to do, I have seen things on various forums saying I don't need to collect VAT unless I earn over £81,000 (I'm in the UK btw, and I'd be quite happy to make £100), others have said only put in the tax rate for the country which I'm selling from, others have said input for every country selling to.
I'm confused as to which I should have done.
Also, I saw that it said that Google will take the VAT off the gross price, then take their 30% off the net price, they will then pass on the gross price minus their cut, e.g.:
if app is £1
UK VAT is 20% so £1 minus 20% is £0.80
Google will take 30% of the £0.80, so this would be £0.24
They will then pass on the gross price minus their cut, so pass on £0.76
The way I read that I have £0.20 which is VAT sitting in my bank account, am I supposed to pay this in somehow, even if I'm not VAT registered, do I have to do that for every country around the world that I sell my apps to? And can I pay it all to the UK government or do I have to pay each relevant government their cut?
It's only a 69p app, I'm an unknown, I don't expect it to make huge amounts of money, I just wanted to learn and see how far I could get, might even look good on my CV, but the "paperwork" side of getting this thing up and running has been a headache.
For a multi billion dollar company, I think Google have done a really bad job of trying to encourage people that aren't part of large companies to develop apps, Apple deal with it all for you!
Money Saving Expert (great UK forum for anything to do with money have answered the question for me, as being a No don't put tax rates on as charging VAT when not VAT registered (due to being below the threshold) is fraud
I'm from Italy and I'm blocked on this question too.
Is there somebody who knows The Answer?

Importing Xiaomi Mi Mix to India

Has anyone imported the phone to India.. I currently have narrowed it down to 2 sellers flosmall or Chinavasion... But would like to confirm on what were the customs charged and how long did it take to get the delivery in India ??
Thanks
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@rohit25 I have imported mine from Gearbest.com from China. If you are worried about Customs and Duties, order from them and choose Priority Shipping for India E-Commerce i.e. GATI Courier and request them to declare the value of the shipment below INR 10,000 to save Customs and Duties. I did the same and paid ZERO Duties. If the seller can't do that, You're looking at a minimum of 21% to be paid as Customs and Duties.
Also if you don't want to pay any Duties, do not opt for DHL, Fedex, TNT or UPS. Go for China Post.
Regarding Shipment duration, You get what you pay for. If you Opt for Priority Shipping for India E-Commerce i.e. GATI Courier, you'll get your package within 7-10 days.
Also opt for December Batch of the Phone as the earlier batch doesn't have the Leather Case in the Box.
Regards.
I hope I have provided the information you were looking for. PM me otherwise.
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@rohit25 I have imported mine from Gearbest.com from China. If you are worried about Customs and Duties, order from them and choose Priority Shipping for India E-Commerce i.e. GATI Courier and request them to declare the value of the shipment below INR 10,000 to save Customs and Duties. I did the same and paid ZERO Duties. If the seller can't do that, You're looking at a minimum of 21% to be paid as Customs and Duties.
Also if you don't want to pay any Duties, do not opt for DHL, Fedex, TNT or UPS. Go for China Post.
Regarding Shipment duration, You get what you pay for. If you Opt for Priority Shipping for India E-Commerce i.e. GATI Courier, you'll get your package within 7-10 days.
Also opt for December Batch of the Phone as the earlier batch doesn't have the Leather Case in the Box.
Regards.
I hope I have provided the information you were looking for. PM me otherwise.
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THX for the very informative post & WELCOME TO XDA-DEVELOPERS ! :good:
rohit25 said:
Has anyone imported the phone to India.. I currently have narrowed it down to 2 sellers flosmall or Chinavasion... But would like to confirm on what were the customs charged and how long did it take to get the delivery in India ??
Thanks
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Ansh Gulati is technically correct when he says that anything below 10000Rs does not attract duties. But when you ask to declare below 10000, there are a few risks which you should consider:
a.) In the unfortunate event customs opens or inspects your package and finds out it was declared low, you may have to pay a hefty fine and your item may be seized and destroyed. Neither the seller nor Paypal will take responsibility for the wrongful declaration.
b.) When you declare a lower value and if the package is insured, if anything goes wrong, you only get the declared amount as insurance. Paypal will decline your dispute and side with the seller because you asked the seller to declare a lower value or not insure it.
c.) From my experience, Gati isn't very reliable. Have had bad experiences with Gati and even heard negative experiences from a few people. Jabong and Snapdeal have used Gati at one point and have stopped using their service after many customer issues regarding damaged parcels and delivery issues. Google this if you find it hard to believe me. How can you trust them with your international parcels when their local delivery standards are sub-par?
Your best bet would be to have it declared around 350$ and have it shipped via DHL. This way, duties will still be lower than what you would have to pay if it was declared at 1200dollars and they wont bother to inspect it as 350dollars is a reasonable value for an imported mobile phone. DHL will pay the duties for you and you can pay DHL these charges on delivery. I would suggest you enquire with Flosmall regarding their customs insurance, where Flosmall reimburses you for any charges collected by customs. If this is the case, go for this option as it only costs around 6dollars more. And ensure that you have it delivered by a reliable carrier like DHL or FedEx. Atleast you'll have a guarantee that your shipment will arrive safely.
Ofcourse, you can always go the other route and have it declared below 10000 like Ansh suggested. If you're lucky, you wont have any issues and wont have to pay any duties either. It depends on whether you're willing to take the risk. That's all. Because the chances of your item being inspected is very slim.
But both Chinavasion and Flossmall mentions that the product is a cellphone and also mentions the item details on the shipping invoice along with the value.
So the invoice looks like "Mix 256GB - Cellphone - 5000Rupees". How does 256GB and 5000Rs look when the item is a cellphone? Hope you get the point.
Cheers!

Question Samsung Preorder Overcharging for Sales Tax!

I see they are up to their shenanigans again!
They assess sales tax at the FULL PRICE of the handset instead of the discounted price. This is not correct. Instead of paying sales tax on $829 I am paying sales tax (6%) on $1379!
The final charge hasn't hit my CC yet, but basesd on the initial receipt, they aren't charging me for the full price.
It's in the invoice from the original order. I used paypal and that's what they charge.
I just ordered a 512GB Ultra because I guess I'm a sucker for one, and TBH I'm interested in the buds pro. Which show Feb 19th shipping?! WTF is up there, the remorse period ends when those ship? What kind of crap is that?!
I guess I should have ordered earlier, shipping on everything else is Feb 5th.
It's like Christmas, every year it gets earlier (the ads, etc.).
I wonder if this year's Note will be coming in July. I remember when those came AFTER iphones LOL.
Ah, ok, you're getting the buds as a freebie? So I guess you're not in the US? Maybe different rules. My phone was 522.49 after $700 phone trade-in, and I had another $24.08 accessory charges after $200 credit. My tax rate here is 8.9% I'm not really sure where the $53.50 comes from... it's not correct for the after discounts number, nor is it correct for the pre-discounts number. But it's at least close to what it should be, not on the complete pre-discount number.
In USA (Maryland), and sales tax assessed on the full price of just the phone.
I'm getting $550 off that for trade in (S10e).
$200 credit buys buds pro and rugged carrying case with nothing left over.
Oh ok, I think they get free buds in Europe, so I thought maybe that was your case. We have similar deals then, but I have a bigger trade-in (S20U). The only accessory I wanted was the case with the S-pen, so I spent the rest on a tablet that I'll sell (which ended up putting me $24 over the allowance). The estimated tax on my invoice corresponds to a taxable amount of $601.12. I have no idea where that came from, but it's definitely not the full price of the phone.
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I see they are up to their shenanigans again!
They assess sales tax at the FULL PRICE of the handset instead of the discounted price. This is not correct. Instead of paying sales tax on $829 I am paying sales tax (6%) on $1379!
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I am in Canada and they do the same here. My sales taxes are based on the full price.
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It's not fair and there's nothing we can do about it.
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I tried shipping a S21 Ultra G5 to my forwarding warehouse in Delaware (no taxes) and Samsung repeatedly flagged all subsequent orders as fraud when I tried to reorder - to *any* address, subsequently.
(India) agents would never disclose this - even though they *know* it is the fact - and I found this out when they sent me a copy of my online chat with them - where the Subject line was clearly flagged - stating "fraud" - which is ridiculous...
I have nothing really useful to add other than the fact that you're lucky you don't live in Canada.
Since the list price of the S21 Ultra is like $1200 USD, that's $1520 CAD, yet our list price is $1999. And tax here is 13%. The phone comes out to $2260, or just shy of $1800 USD lol.
Considering the S22 Ultra is only like $100 USD more than the S21 Ultra. They're probably just going to match the S20 Ultra price tag of $2300 CAD since that at launch was $1380 USD.
Even though you're over paying for tax on that preorder, you're not nearly getting as man handled as the Canadian market.
Cause if you look at the current list price of $1380 USD, that's almost $1800 CAD, yet our list price is going to be similar to the S20 Ultra at $2300. We're over paying by about $500 CAD or $400 USD.
I mean, it sucks over paying for tax, but, it could be a LOT worse lol
Sambolet13 said:
It's not fair and there's nothing we can do about it.
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Why necro this old ass thread?

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