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Hi all, first post so hello. I've been reading various reports on here and elsewhere about expansys' so called UK version.
Will the official UK phone be any different/better? I'm a bit concerned and wondered whether to send it back and wait for Tmobile to release it.
What you reckon?
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If you purchase a T-Mobile it will be locked not unlocked and I beleive the number will be HTC P3702 or 3.
The UK version will have more up-to-date software (HTC have delayed the release date to apply software fixes). Also, the Expansys Diamonds have been imported from HK, so it's not clear what will happen about the warranty.
If I were you, I'd play with the Diamond for a bit, then send it back to Expansys and try to get my money back. Then I'd buy an unlocked Diamond whenever it is properly released in the UK (probably sometime between the 15th and 25th) for much cheaper from somewhere like Play.com, TotalPDA or INKINO (I can't believe Expansys are charging even more than INKINO).
Dark Fire said:
The UK version will have more up-to-date software (HTC have delayed the release date to apply software fixes). Also, the Expansys Diamonds have been imported from HK, so it's not clear what will happen about the warranty.
If I were you, I'd play with the Diamond for a bit, then send it back to Expansys and try to get my money back. Then I'd buy an unlocked Diamond whenever it is properly released in the UK (probably sometime between the 15th and 25th) for much cheaper from somewhere like Play.com, TotalPDA or INKINO (I can't believe Expansys are charging even more than INKINO).
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Thanks for the quick replies.
I paid £120 for it with a 12 month £42.50 contract. Only had it couple of days so i think i have 14 days to cancel?
nokmond said:
Thanks for the quick replies.
I paid £120 for it with a 12 month £42.50 contract. Only had it couple of days so i think i have 14 days to cancel?
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I think thats expensive. Its probably cheaper for you to get it offline (totalpda 410, play.com about the same), and get some other phone for free with contract and ebay that.. or get just a contract at a discounted price from these online stores.
someone1234 said:
I think thats expensive. Its probably cheaper for you to get it offline (totalpda 410, play.com about the same), and get some other phone for free with contract and ebay that.. or get just a contract at a discounted price from these online stores.
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Thanks. How would i stand with returning the phone and cancelling the contract? Is it 14days to cancel? Would i get my £120 refunded?
nokmond said:
Thanks. How would i stand with returning the phone and cancelling the contract? Is it 14days to cancel? Would i get my £120 refunded?
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yes you will get all money back maybe a restock fee will apply, but most contract provides should not charge this.
You'll get a total refund. You're covered by distance selling regulations. Some people call this a cooling off period, but its actually to protect you from shoddy descriptions, since you can't physically see the product.
This 'cooling off' period is a myth, and doesnt automatically apply to phone contracts by any law. All networks build it into their T&C when you buy direct, but be very careful, some retailers like carephone warehouse for example are agents for say O2, and so have their own contract, which has no cooling off. If you walked into carephone warehouse store and signed up you'd be outta luck. Online, you could use distance selling regulations to cancel (yeah they still apply because its seen as a product).
If in dought, always buy online (with a decent credit card). Sounds funny doesnt it? only a coupla years ago we would be advising the opposite! But you have alot more protection now online and with a credit card.
Refuse to pay any restocking fee if they ask you for one say its not a UK device as advertised. All else fails, call your credit card company and let them deal with it
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You'll get a total refund. You're covered by distance selling regulations. Some people call this a cooling off period, but its actually to protect you from shoddy descriptions, since you can't physically see the product.
This 'cooling off' period is a myth, and doesnt automatically apply to phone contracts by any law. All networks build it into their T&C when you buy direct, but be very careful, some retailers like carephone warehouse for example are agents for say O2, and so have their own contract, which has no cooling off. If you walked into carephone warehouse store and signed up you'd be outta luck. Online, you could use distance selling regulations to cancel (yeah they still apply because its seen as a product).
If in dought, always buy online (with a decent credit card). Sounds funny doesnt it? only a coupla years ago we would be advising the opposite! But you have alot more protection now online and with a credit card.
Refuse to pay any restocking fee if they ask you for one say its not a UK device as advertised. All else fails, call your credit card company and let them deal with it
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Thanks. I paid for it via credit card from expansys. Looks like play.com will be a better option.
nokmond said:
Thanks. I paid for it via credit card from expansys. Looks like play.com will be a better option.
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There's also a power seller on ebay eCell or something for 400 quid including postage. It'll be another import, but at that price i do think it may be worth considering for some people.
ok can someone please tell me what kind of duties you pay when u order from clove from the uk to usa? i want to know should i order there or order from expansys usa. expansys usa is charging like 940 for the unit where as clove uk with the conversion rate is about 760
thanks
u pay the straight price and shipping only.
I was also considering buying from them, but would appreciate feedback from anyone who's dealt with them. How is their service? How quickly do they action (dispatch) your order? Do they charge you immediately, or when they dispatch?
Thanks.
My shipment was delayed by 1-2 days since they required some additional confirmation of my shipping address in the US (another complication was I was shipping to WORK, different from my billing address!)
I emailed them asking about my order, at which point they said 'oh yea we require some additional infor since you're a "first time customer"', so I sent them a copy of a random bill, and a copy of the top of my paystub (since it had my work address on it -- they didn't ask for this). Said I was good to go and they shipped it later that day...
however I anticipated receiving (via DHL) this afternoon -- tracking now says its "on hold" -- I called DHL, and the phone did not clear customs. Apparently DHL did not add it to the cargo manifest so it was not cleared while in the air. Plane lands, they unload, have no record of customs clearance so they hold it. I had to send DHL a copy of my 1040, and apparently they do customs clearing late at night, which means my X1 is hanging out in Ohio right now (I'm in ATL); hopefully it gets moving, and FAST, once they clear it. But they said that could take 1-2 business days.
I am going to NYC on Wednesday, I REALLLLY want the X1 before then (you know, Google Maps n stuff )
But the Clove price was GREAT! Anticpated paying much more, especially considering other retailers are listing in the 8-900s+, where I thought I would have to be paying...
abdul.aziz said:
I was also considering buying from them, but would appreciate feedback from anyone who's dealt with them. How is their service? How quickly do they action (dispatch) your order? Do they charge you immediately, or when they dispatch?
Thanks.
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I ordered from Clove and they were awesome. Excellent communication, great price and delivered as promised. They notified me ahead of time about the credit card verification process (which is a good thing) so that didn't slow my order down. Other than that catch ordering through them, it was a smooth, easy transaction.
I ordered back at the beginning of October and didn't ship immediately so I can't comment on the processing time to ship for in stock items. However, I got an email on 10/20 saying my X1 would ship on 10/27 and they were right on. Also, my card was not charged until it was shipped.
Bottom line, I'd highly recommend them on price, service and quality. Not to mention super fast DHL 2 day shipping from the UK (for impatient people like me).
Hope that helps
Clove was perfect. i had preorders on two other sites that were selling for $950-1000. 425 L + 37 L shipping = 462 L total. In USD, it translated to $739.77. $250+ cheaper than mobileplanet (expansys) or mobilecityonline.
ordered on oct 22nd. received an e-mail on friday the 24th regarding incoming inventory and authorization of credit card, shipped out monday morning the 27th, and received the 29th of wednesday in CT.
interestingly, the box is not sealed (i.e. didn't have the sticker that says nobody has opened it before). did anybody else's have one of those?
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interestingly, the box is not sealed (i.e. didn't have the sticker that says nobody has opened it before). did anybody else's have one of those?
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I noticed there was no seal too but completely forgot about it when I saw the X1, lol. It looked like they threw in a couple little fliers/ads for software and accessories so maybe that's why.
nice i wanted to know this also given that i was thinkin about ordering from clove also so how much in total were you goes getting them and what kinda shipping did you pay and get overnight? 2 day
read my post? it's all answered there.
I ordered with Clove on the morning of the 24th (this monday), they stated that i would be getting the device on the 30th or 31th (they should be getting stock on the 29th), i just found out now that they're only getting stock on the 12th of November and i had to ask why my order wasn't shipped yet. They didn't warn me before hand that i wasn't getting my order on the date they stated...
I ordered from Clove, UK.
1. I ordered it last Sat online (before the stock dried up )
2. Called early Monday and had some trouble trying to get my Credit card company to give Clove the authorization number (Clove needs it to verify buyer but my CC company doesn't allow distribution to anyone. Finally, Clove just sent it out anyway). I got it WED!!!! No issues with Customs, etc.
3. I paid $712 for the phone (unbranded/unlocked) and 2 Day DHL shipping (which is almost $300 less than other competitors). It was a retail version and brand new.
4.. Their customer service was outstanding, really tried to help me get this phone. They shipped within hours of CC authorization and approval. I got Tracking Number within hours also. They if anything, are too cautious (thats a good thing) with their verification of orders.
HIGHLY RECOMMEND, VERY HONEST SELLER.
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I ordered with Clove on the morning of the 24th (this monday), they stated that i would be getting the device on the 30th or 31th (they should be getting stock on the 29th), i just found out now that they're only getting stock on the 12th of November and i had to ask why my order wasn't shipped yet. They didn't warn me before hand that i wasn't getting my order on the date they stated...
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I ordered on the 27th of October (I think you meant 27th as well) and haven't gotten any email update yet. Which worries me because now I have to wait as well....uugggh.. Feel like ordering somewhere else then but they say patience is a virtue... T_T
EDIT: As far as a company I ordered from them my Touch Pro back in August and had no issues with the service. Just wish the x1 was more widely available.
Clove The Best !!
I ordered my X1 on friday 10/24, had to call cc company to verify purchase.
received my phone yesterday 10/29.
excellent company and customer service !!
Cost $ 765 with DHL international.
Highly recommended !!
much better than Expansys who tried to charge me $965 for the phone, then tried to tell me that Clove is not a good company when i cancelled their order.
Cheers.
Did Clove tell you to call your CC company or did you do this on your own?
Clove sucks.
I pre-ordered on October 8th thinking that I was assured a unit. Sadly I was mistaken. On Tuesday I had sent an email wondering what had happened to my unit. They replied asking me to send them a recent credit report or transaction number from my credit card company. I choose to send the transaction number since it seemed a safer solution. After checking my credit history I was amazed to see that I was yet to be charged. I sent an email telling them I could not send a transaction number since no transaction was placed, and decided to fax them a credit report stating my address. A day later they emailed me and offered their condolences as they had sold out of Black units and said that the people who confirmed the security check first would receive them first as there was a lot of demand. I told them they had only sent me a security check after requesting information as to the whereabouts of my order. They of course told me all security checks emails were sent out on the same day. This is absolutly absurred.
So to clarify:
-I ordered on the 8th of October
-First batch came in on the 24th
-They sold out on 27th
-Received email for security check on 28th
-Sent security check on 29th (early in the morning)
-Declined first batch on 30th
-Promised (?) a unit on the next shipment, November 12th.
My question is how they can advertize a product for pre-order if they sell the units on a first come first serve basis. Their clumpsyness is unactable.
Well I just got off the phone with Expansys. They tried to switch my order to a US order to "stop me from paying duties and customs taxes." The guy also told me that they always ship US orders from their UK store from the US and Expansys currently has 300 back orders right now.
The last part is the only bit of truth I got out of him. I've ordered from Expansys UK before and it came from the UK and I didn't have to pay any taxes. All he was trying to do was make me pay the higher price on the US website and wait longer. What a crock of #$%^
Long story short, I'm keeping my order with Clove even if I have to wait until Nov 12th for it to ship out. I might try eBay but I don't know if I'm going to risk it not to mention the prices are way too high.
veloaudio said:
Well I just got off the phone with Expansys. They tried to switch my order to a US order to "stop me from paying duties and customs taxes." The guy also told me that they always ship US orders from their UK store from the US and Expansys currently has 300 back orders right now.
The last part is the only bit of truth I got out of him. I've ordered from Expansys UK before and it came from the UK and I didn't have to pay any taxes. All he was trying to do was make me pay the higher price on the US website and wait longer. What a crock of #$%^
Long story short, I'm keeping my order with Clove even if I have to wait until Nov 12th for it to ship out. I might try eBay but I don't know if I'm going to risk it not to mention the prices are way too high.
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So are you saying that if you ordered from the UK expansys you wouldn't get it anytime? Or are u saying that the US expansys has 300 back orders?
+1 for Clove.
I ordered a TP back in August over a weekend, they processed the transaction on Monday (I sent them an email with the 6-digit transaction number for confirmation) and shipped it out same day. It missed the outbound DHL flight that night but was on its way the next day; had the TP in my hands by 11am Wednesday, west coast US.
For clarification, Clove needs you to confirm your CC only if you're a new customer. This is so that they don't end up exporting the phones to bad orders (black market, etc). As long as you've got your billing/shipping info all straight with your CC issuer (you might also call ahead to let them know to expect the charge in GB Pounds), there should be no major problems, except waiting for stock to arrive.
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So are you saying that if you ordered from the UK expansys you wouldn't get it anytime? Or are u saying that the US expansys has 300 back orders?
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The guy was very vague and when I'd ask him to clarify he kept asking me how I wanted it shipped (Ground, 2 day, or Next Day)?!?! He made the statement that Expansys had 300 back orders (I would assume UK since the US store is still a preorder). He also said that they are supposed to get more next week but that the shipment wouldn't be enough to fill all the back orders. He was basically telling me that anyone in the US that ordered form the UK store really ordered from the US store (they would hand off the transaction to US). I should have hung up and called back when he said that because that is a lie.
Bottom line I don't know what the call really accomplished except that this guy was trying to scam me. I am inclined to believe the 300 back orders because of the demand for the phone. Take it with a grain of salt though.
I thought it was slightly strange that with all the demand for the silver one they had 100+ listed this morning. I'm going to call them and see if they actually have some in stock or if they are just lying.
So, I initially order an 8gb Nexus from Google on the 27 June, cancelled it on the 29th and ordered the 16 gb one from currys.
As I didn't get a confirmation of cancellation, emailed again on the 10th. And my currys one yesterday.
But still phone got delivered 2 days ago. Phoned Google, who gave me an RMA number and said I will get my return shipment money back, just send it back by tnt.
But tnt want £35 to return it, and I'm not confident I'll get my refund on return from Google.
What have the others done? How are you sending it back in the UK?
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I would try to return the Curry's one in all honesty.
Check them both for the screen raise fault first though.
Google said they would refund my shipping. But as yet still waiting
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I had the same problem as they sent out the unit even though I cancelled. I just sold it on as it was the easiest way of getting my money back. Try gumtree as it won't cost anything to sell it. Or even tell friends as you may get a cheeky pint out of it as well
My currys one is perfect, but haven't opened up the other one.
To the guys who returned it, did you return it with TNT or by special delivery (royal mail)?
My mates who want a nexus want a 16 GB, so need to return this 8 GB one.
Sent from mobile.
Anyone from UK?
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Anyone from UK?
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hey bro, im trying to figure out how to return my nexus 7 too, got battery problems.
i got the RMA form and the TNT email thing, but do we really have to return through TNT, cant i just go to the post office and pay like a fiver to send it off? makes things much easier
please get back to me asap thanks
Hi mate are you selling your 8GB Nexus 7, I'm in the UK. Where are you located as I will buy it from you rather than sending it back.
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hey bro, im trying to figure out how to return my nexus 7 too, got battery problems.
i got the RMA form and the TNT email thing, but do we really have to return through TNT, cant i just go to the post office and pay like a fiver to send it off? makes things much easier
please get back to me asap thanks
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What was the time line for you getting your RMA. Your email from TNT and your replacement device ?
I've had my RMA. Had my replacement device. But no return shipping instructions!!! So am sat with 2 nexus 7 and looking at a £400 bill. And getting no luck with phoning or emailing google!!
They're obliged by law to refund the postage costs incurred. If they don't do so you can take them to small-claims court and you will win.
You could try postage supermarket - they use tnt and get cheaper prices
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I don't believe you have to go through TNT in the UK as this is part of the RMA email I recieved from google:
3. You'll receive a return shipping label within 48 hours of your replacement device. Use this label with the shipping container used for returning your original device. Purchase return shipping from your preferred courier (Royal Mail for example) and specify the following return address:
Computer 2000
Harrier Parkway
Magna Parkway
Lutterworth
Leicester
Leicestershire
LE17 4XT
UK
4. Print your shipping label from your preferred courier and affix it to your return box. Take your package to any authorized shipping outlet near you.
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What was the time line for you getting your RMA. Your email from TNT and your replacement device ?
I've had my RMA. Had my replacement device. But no return shipping instructions!!! So am sat with 2 nexus 7 and looking at a £400 bill. And getting no luck with phoning or emailing google!!
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i basically phoned them, got my RMA form, and within that email they just state to sent back the device to the address given, being the computer 2000 address...
i however didnt use TNT and used royal mail special delivery with insurance of up to £150, it costed me £7.50 to do so
i orderd mines on 18/07/12 from currys and it came 25/07/12.
mines is perfect not one dead pixel, no light bleed and nothing else they have reported on herd. i love this thing. is supa fast and smooth. verry happy with it.
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If you are exercising your rights under distance selling regulations (#), you may have to pay the cost for returning if the seller has stated this in their terms and conditions. If not, you pay nothing.
Here was link to t and c in my June pre order email.
https://play.google.com/about/device-terms.html
It does state return at your cost unfortunately. I believe Google should refund cost as a goodwill gesture. It is hinted here, where it offers a 15 day opened box prepaid return policy as an 'extra' to you legal rights. This is where you would usually see "this does not affect your statutory rights"
http://support.google.com/googleplay/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=2661524&rd=1
The seller must refund delivery and unit price within 30 days of your notification of exercising DSR. You must return the item within a reasonable time period.
http://oft.gov.uk/business-advice/treating-customers-fairly/dshome/dsrexplained
Note applying under faulty goods is slightly different
http://oft.gov.uk/business-advice/treating-customers-fairly/sogahome/sogaexplained
I think we are duplicating threads as I am repeating myself. Can we pin or lock?
# I have said unopened box previously, as is usually case for general goods with clear packaging but I think it is reasonable to open the nexus box to inspect the goods, as you would do this in a retail shop. There is no hard rule on this, it is what is judged, by the average population what is considered reasonable. Proportionality is usually taken into account. I consider it reasonable to open the box to inspect a 200 pound item. You will still have a statutory duty to take reasonable care to look after the item. The seller cannot insist on using original packaging but it may be considered reasonable to do so.
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Here was link to t and c in my June pre order email.
https://play.google.com/about/device-terms.html
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Those T&Cs specifically say they apply to the US, but I can't find any UK-specific terms anywhere on their site, therefore the sale is bound by statutory defaults. BTW, the section about returning 'at your own cost' covers returns for refund, not warranty returns for defect repair/exchange, which is the section below it and doesn't mention anything about having to cover return postage.
Yeah I know - I described separate scenarios:
Statutory rights under DSR [under SOGA] (ie I have inspected the goods and changed my mind about the contract). You do not pay the cost of returning if you are sending item back unless the terms and conditions state so. It does say you pay in the "Devices on Google Play Terms of Sale (United States)", but the "Refunds, returns & replacements" Dedicated page [uk view] doesn't mention anything, so I reckon we don't have to pay.
Statutory rights under SOGA (defective goods etc). You do not pay the cost of returning item, whatever.
In this instance for us Nexus 7 buyers, you should not only return defective goods as a 'warranty' scenario, but pull the SOGA card, which is much more beneficial for consumers. Also our contract is with Google (or whatever retailer you shopped at) not with ASUS, so we shouldn't even have to contact ASUS.
Yeah, SOGA trumps DSR because by virtue of receiving goods, or inspecting goods and found a defect, then it does not conform to the contract.
Right to warranty is not a statutory right. Like the 15 day return policy, it is an 'extra' to your rights and Google should in their right mind keep a good public image by not making us suffer!
Yeah, I couldn't find a UK specific one, it makes sense for an international seller to have a generic one, there is a paragraph on governance:
"The courts in some countries will not apply California law to some types of terms and disputes. If you reside in one of those countries, then where California law is excluded from applying, your country’s laws will apply to these terms and any disputes related to them terms..."
Got my pre-paid TNT return label today and collection is booked for Monday, so everything's sorted out. Looks like they're sending the defective ones to a warehouse in Emmen in the Netherlands.
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Got my pre-paid TNT return label today and collection is booked for Monday, so everything's sorted out. Looks like they're sending the defective ones to a warehouse in Emmen in the Netherlands.
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I had real trouble getting the TNT lot on the phone to arrange a pick up. They seemed very confused that the account number was for a company in Birmingham yet I was sending it to the Netherlands.
Phoned back, got a different operator, no problem!
Don't get this thread. Return for what reason?
Hello XDA Users!
Can You please tell me:
Where to buy Xiaomi Mi8?
I've heard that the lowest price I would get on Aliexpress but I never bought anything from that site.
Is is a good idea? What to look out for?
Buy only from MI official sellers? How about tax and other things when shipping to EU?
I don't know much about the taxes charged in the EU, but I purchased a white 6/64gb mi 8 from Joybuy for 361$ including shipping which im pretty sure is the lowest you'll find right now. They accept paypal so that adds a little bit of peace of mind.
I bought my SE on Honorbuy since it was the lowest price I could find that provided EU shipping. You only pay for the phone and there's no tax bs.
https://www.honorbuy.com/237-xiaomi-mi-8
You can get a Mi 8 there for 410 € in total ( including DHL shipping which means the phone should come to you within 3 days ) .
But if anyone knows of a better choice for EU residents, please do mention it.
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I bought my SE on Honorbuy since it was the lowest price I could find that provided EU shipping. You only pay for the phone and there's no tax bs.
https://www.honorbuy.com/237-xiaomi-mi-8
You can get a Mi 8 there for 410 € in total ( including DHL shipping which means the phone should come to you within 3 days ) .
But if anyone knows of a better choice for EU residents, please do mention it.
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Well i bought mine on aliexpress wiht EU shipment IT Toke allmost 2weeks for it to come
Because they send it in my place to GB an then to me
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Well i bought mine on aliexpress wiht EU shipment IT Toke allmost 2weeks for it to come
Because they send it in my place to GB an then to me
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Yeah, on THIS SELLER
it would cost 450 USD which translates into 390 Euros. That's with the DHL Shipping ( which you must select if you don't want to be assf%cked by customs and tax ) . This is the cheapest as far as I can see.
I've heard a rumor that it's good to have./buy an (extra) insurance (?) as that would prevent customs and tax and choose shipment from China to UK and than from UK to other EU country (that way we avoid paying Value Added Tax cause its a internal EUnion trade).
I ask again as I'm a complete Aliexpress noob - what are the basic things that I should avoid when buying stuff there? I don't want to loose a big amount of money by making some well known by Aliexpres users cardinal mistake.
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I've heard a rumor that it's good to have./buy an (extra) insurance (?) as that would prevent customs and tax and choose shipment from China to UK and than from UK to other EU country (that way we avoid paying Value Added Tax cause its a internal EUnion trade).
I ask again as I'm a complete Aliexpress noob - what are the basic things that I should avoid when buying stuff there? I don't want to loose a big amount of money by making some well known by Aliexpres users cardinal mistake.
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Read the description of the product ( they often tell you which shipping method to pick to avoid customs ), check the feedback and see how many orders the product has ( sellers should be more experienced if they processed more orders and if the feedback to the product and the seller are great ) .
Sellers are nowadays pretty great, it's the buyers who are mostly idiots who don't bother to read what the seller wrote and fail to choose properly/fail to give proper shipping info and then say things like " Hur hur, Aliexpress sucks, it's a scam".
I order pretty much everything I can from Aliexpress (mechanical keyboards, cases, mice, headphones,etc. ) and even when the product didn't arrive ( one time ), I got a refund.
I can't guarantee that every seller is perfect but you can always send the message to the seller and ask them in PROPER AND EASY TO READ ENGLISH ( they're Chinese, don't write complex essays and expect 100% of it being understood ) and they will give you all the info you need.
It's in their interest to sell and to have a customer which will post positive feedback.
I know I sound patronizing but buyers on Aliexpress are most often retarded and blame the sellers for it.
I'm honestly more hesitant when it comes to ordering from eBay than from Aliexpress.
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Read the description of the product ( they often tell you which shipping method to pick to avoid customs ), check the feedback and see how many orders the product has ( sellers should be more experienced if they processed more orders and if the feedback to the product and the seller are great ) .
Sellers are nowadays pretty great, it's the buyers who are mostly idiots who don't bother to read what the seller wrote and fail to choose properly/fail to give proper shipping info and then say things like " Hur hur, Aliexpress sucks, it's a scam".
I order pretty much everything I can from Aliexpress (mechanical keyboards, cases, mice, headphones,etc. ) and even when the product didn't arrive ( one time ), I got a refund.
I can't guarantee that every seller is perfect but you can always send the message to the seller and ask them in PROPER AND EASY TO READ ENGLISH ( they're Chinese, don't write complex essays and expect 100% of it being understood ) and they will give you all the info you need.
It's in their interest to sell and to have a customer which will post positive feedback.
I know I sound patronizing but buyers on Aliexpress are most often retarded and blame the sellers for it.
I'm honestly more hesitant when it comes to ordering from eBay than from Aliexpress.
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YES THANKS this is the kind of answer I was looking for.
If anyone has something else to add to these asdvice/tips thsan please do.
Very much Thank You XDA Friend for helping me out!
BTW I curious why are you more hesitant when it comes to ordering from eBay than from Aliexpress?
androidbadboy said:
YES THANKS this is the kind of answer I was looking for.
If anyone has something else to add to these asdvice/tips thsan please do.
Very much Thank You XDA Friend for helping me out!
BTW I curious why are you more hesitant when it comes to ordering from eBay than from Aliexpress?
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Because a lot of good deals say " the seller doesn't ship to your country" , meaning I have to contact the seller and wait a ton for them to reply if they even ship to Croatia ( which is in EU but I still have to ask for some reason ) , let alone to know if the shipping isn't too high ( it's interesting how you have to pay more for shipping within the EU than from China to EU but whatever ).
On Aliexpress you have all the info in front of you and you can choose various shipping methods. Everything is automated in places where it should be.
The Marionette said:
Because a lot of good deals say " the seller doesn't ship to your country" , meaning I have to contact the seller and wait a ton for them to reply if they even ship to Croatia ( which is in EU but I still have to ask for some reason ) , let alone to know if the shipping isn't too high ( it's interesting how you have to pay more for shipping within the EU than from China to EU but whatever ).
On Aliexpress you have all the info in front of you and you can choose various shipping methods. Everything is automated in places where it should be.
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Yes, that's strange with this price =difference and I agree - no shippment to my country is the same story for mel
Dude, you're made my day.
You gave me a ton of important info. You're the man! Thank You very very much!
I see they are up to their shenanigans again!
They assess sales tax at the FULL PRICE of the handset instead of the discounted price. This is not correct. Instead of paying sales tax on $829 I am paying sales tax (6%) on $1379!
The final charge hasn't hit my CC yet, but basesd on the initial receipt, they aren't charging me for the full price.
It's in the invoice from the original order. I used paypal and that's what they charge.
I just ordered a 512GB Ultra because I guess I'm a sucker for one, and TBH I'm interested in the buds pro. Which show Feb 19th shipping?! WTF is up there, the remorse period ends when those ship? What kind of crap is that?!
I guess I should have ordered earlier, shipping on everything else is Feb 5th.
It's like Christmas, every year it gets earlier (the ads, etc.).
I wonder if this year's Note will be coming in July. I remember when those came AFTER iphones LOL.
Ah, ok, you're getting the buds as a freebie? So I guess you're not in the US? Maybe different rules. My phone was 522.49 after $700 phone trade-in, and I had another $24.08 accessory charges after $200 credit. My tax rate here is 8.9% I'm not really sure where the $53.50 comes from... it's not correct for the after discounts number, nor is it correct for the pre-discounts number. But it's at least close to what it should be, not on the complete pre-discount number.
In USA (Maryland), and sales tax assessed on the full price of just the phone.
I'm getting $550 off that for trade in (S10e).
$200 credit buys buds pro and rugged carrying case with nothing left over.
Oh ok, I think they get free buds in Europe, so I thought maybe that was your case. We have similar deals then, but I have a bigger trade-in (S20U). The only accessory I wanted was the case with the S-pen, so I spent the rest on a tablet that I'll sell (which ended up putting me $24 over the allowance). The estimated tax on my invoice corresponds to a taxable amount of $601.12. I have no idea where that came from, but it's definitely not the full price of the phone.
cpufrost said:
I see they are up to their shenanigans again!
They assess sales tax at the FULL PRICE of the handset instead of the discounted price. This is not correct. Instead of paying sales tax on $829 I am paying sales tax (6%) on $1379!
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I am in Canada and they do the same here. My sales taxes are based on the full price.
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It's not fair and there's nothing we can do about it.
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I tried shipping a S21 Ultra G5 to my forwarding warehouse in Delaware (no taxes) and Samsung repeatedly flagged all subsequent orders as fraud when I tried to reorder - to *any* address, subsequently.
(India) agents would never disclose this - even though they *know* it is the fact - and I found this out when they sent me a copy of my online chat with them - where the Subject line was clearly flagged - stating "fraud" - which is ridiculous...
I have nothing really useful to add other than the fact that you're lucky you don't live in Canada.
Since the list price of the S21 Ultra is like $1200 USD, that's $1520 CAD, yet our list price is $1999. And tax here is 13%. The phone comes out to $2260, or just shy of $1800 USD lol.
Considering the S22 Ultra is only like $100 USD more than the S21 Ultra. They're probably just going to match the S20 Ultra price tag of $2300 CAD since that at launch was $1380 USD.
Even though you're over paying for tax on that preorder, you're not nearly getting as man handled as the Canadian market.
Cause if you look at the current list price of $1380 USD, that's almost $1800 CAD, yet our list price is going to be similar to the S20 Ultra at $2300. We're over paying by about $500 CAD or $400 USD.
I mean, it sucks over paying for tax, but, it could be a LOT worse lol
Sambolet13 said:
It's not fair and there's nothing we can do about it.
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Why necro this old ass thread?