Hey everyone! Hope everyone here is having a good day. So what would you guys/girls like to see on a 2015 smartphone?
I personally would like to see these specifications/features:
- Dimensions/size similar to a Nexus 5
- Unique design that stands out from other smartphones
- 5" Quad HD display
- Front-facing stereo speakers
- 8MP front-facing camera
- 21MP rear camera with OIS + 4K recording
- Stock Android
- Physical home button with pulse notification LED on it
- Aluminium bezel with a soft touch plastic back
- A multimedia panel like the Galaxy Edge but something less pronounced
- Snapdragon 810
- 4GB of RAM
- Adreno 430
- 4000mAh battery
- 16gb - 128gb storage capacity
- Variety of colour options
Yes... A long list of configuration. Boring, I know. So I decided to make a video on this 'Dream Smartphone' of mine, which I called the '2015 Concept Smartphone'.
I'm a new user to XDADEVELOPERS, so I cannot post links. Dam. But if you type in 'XTPN 2015 Concept Smartphone' in your YouTube search, it should be the first video.
And please do check it out! It'll help a lot
On a side note, please excuse my poor video editing and 3D modelling skills. I'm a first Industrial Design student so it's kind of all new to me. However, I'm open to all constructive criticism.
Thank you for passing by,
Phil
The link to my '2015 Concept Phone' video. Finally!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GZP5tiEko8&list=UUrXHEU3hnGj3McjXUctKHOA&index=1
Thanks
XTPN said:
The link to my '2015 Concept Phone' video. Finally!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GZP5tiEko8&list=UUrXHEU3hnGj3McjXUctKHOA&index=1
Thanks
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Wow, that's a Nice one.
And also - 4k-Recording is Superior.
But don't forget: 1/2.0" Sensor!
But....
here are some problems with nearly every camera! Ugh, Horrible...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...era-lossless-digital-ooom-t2909786?styleid=16
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...ion-function-t2904242/post56013525?styleid=18
So all the best. ♥
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The 6th time...
i'm the First thanker lol :laugh: :svetuis:
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XTPN said:
Hey everyone! Hope everyone here is having a good day. So what would you guys/girls like to see on a 2015 smartphone?
I personally would like to see these specifications/features:
- Dimensions/size similar to a Nexus 5
- Unique design that stands out from other smartphones
- 5" Quad HD display
- Front -facing 5.1 speakers
- 10 MP front-facing camera
- 21MP rear camera with OIS + 4K recording
- Physical home button with pulse notification LED on it
- Aluminium bezel with a soft touch plastic back
- A multimedia panel like the Galaxy Edge but something less pronounced
- Snapdragon 810 or Better
- 6GB of RAM
- Adreno 430
- 4160mAh battery
- 16 GB - 128GB storage capacity
- Big Variety of colour options
Yes... A long list of configuration. Booring, I know. So I decided to make a video on this 'Dream Smartphone' of mine, which I called the '2015 Concept Smartphone'.
I'm a new user to XDADEVELOPERS, so I cannot post links. Dam. But if you type in 'XTPN 2015 Concept Smartphone' in your YouTube search, it should be the first video.
And please do check it out! It'll help a lot
On a side note, please excuse my poor video editing and 3D modelling skills. I'm a first Industrial Design student so it's kind of all new to me. However, I'm open to all constructive criticism.
Thank you for passing by,
Phil
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BORING, you say? ♦ That's awesome! :laugh:♦
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...physical Camera Button
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...but i prefer PHYSICAL buttons that you can really feel. (I miss Physical Camera Buttons)
But it's good anyway.
Why not 24.1MP?
21 is just a little more than 20,7!
I want to see:
HTC One M9:
Snapdragon 810
5.2, 2K display
13MP Back Camera, 4K Video 60 FPS
Even better stereo speakers with BoomSound
Even better sound in earphones
And be able to change HTC Sense on pure Android
High Technique Technics ☺☻ ☺
vetalorlov said:
I want to see:
HTC One M9:
Snapdragon 810
5.2, 2K display
13MP Back Camera, 4K Video 60 FPS
Even better stereo speakers with BoomSound.
Even better sound in the earphones
And be able to change HTC Sense on pure Android
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Wow, nice idea!
But it needs also a higher bitrate, much space needed and it's not very easy to record longer than 3 Minutes:laugh: at [email protected] - in a few millemeter lens. Because of the Temperature..
What i think M9:
ULTRAPIXEL 6MP at 1/2.0"
4Mp was Horribly low. Why not 6MP? 6 Megapixels is the lowest i accept for a High-End Smartphone. But for 4kRecording, the Minimum is 8.3 MP 16:9.
And the HighEnd-Phone: 1/2.3"/Higher (1/2,0") and about 24MPixelƵ.
Hannah Stern said:
ULTRAPIXEL 6MP at 1/2.0"
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I think, 6MP too low. If to do UltraPixel then not less 8 UltraPixel
6 Megapixels - too low?
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I think, 6MP too low. If to do UltraPixel then not less 8 UltraPixel
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Ok, but then 10MP.
(4352x2448 = 10.6MP)
2844
2488
2448 is the height of [4:3] 8.1 MP.
16:9-8MP Is Actually 4k.
...and there's no big difference between 6Mp↔ 8MP - but 6↔ 10 Megapixels - you can notice the Difference but it's still no BIG Advantage.
But 4K is a big advantage in front of FullHD.
That's why Panasonic can easily advertise the Fƶ1000 in front of the R×10. (R⨯10 is from Sony.) SONY's R✖10 can record in FullHD. (
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Wow, that's a Nice one.
And also - 4k-Recording is Superior.
But don't forget: 1/2.0" Sensor!
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Thanks for checking out the video. Yes, and the sensor! Need a good one for them low light shots.
And nice posts on the problems you have encountered on smartphone cameras. Learnt a lot. Deserved a thank!
I miss them physical camera buttons too. Especially the ones that required you press the button twice(hold for auto-focus, then press again for a shot) << If you get what I mean. I don't know what the mechanism is called But I'd love to see it on more devices.
I want to see:
HTC One M9:
Snapdragon 810
5.2, 2K display
13MP Back Camera, 4K Video 60 FPS
Even better stereo speakers with BoomSound
Even better sound in earphones
And be able to change HTC Sense on pure Android
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Nice! You seem to be a person who enjoys their multimedia I do too.
@vetalorlov
@Hannah Stern
You guys seem to know a lot about your megapixels. Something in which I need
learn more about.
(Simplý) Ask me ☺☻☺
Hi, XPTN!
XTPN said:
Thank you all for participating in this post
Thanks for checking out the video. Yes, and the sensor! Need a good one for them low light shots.
And nice posts on the problems you have encountered on smartphone cameras. Learnt a lot. Deserved a thank!
I miss the physical camera buttons too. Especially the ones that required you press the button twice(hold for auto-focus, then press again for a shot) ← If you get what I mean. I don't know what the mechanism is called But I'd love to see it on more devices.
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Nice! You seem to be a person who enjoys their multimedia I do too.
@vetalorlov
@Hannah Stern
You guys seem to know a lot about your megapixels. Something in which I need
learn more about.
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1. I am a Girl. And i'm 11 years old.
2. If you want to know more, ask me anytime you want. Feel free asking me. ; )
You surely know the idea of „Ultrapixels" or not?
But anyway, have a nice day, everybody.
:laugh:
Video + Details
Hi Again.
Don't forget 240fps RealTime SlowMotion and Laser Auto Focus
See this:
Buy it here lol :laugh:
Android KitKat is a big Problem... hrm.
And also Lossly Digital Zoom! (One Moderator closed this thread. )
Everything missing on the almost perfect Note 4
...and it's camera
I hoped, my suggestions helped ;. Have a nice day
Some Camera Features
Because of the Dual-Camera of the HTC One (Second one has 2-MP) sooo many funny fake effects are possible :laugh:
And 3D Screen isn't very important but a 3D Camera that yoou can Rotate for Horiƶontàl/Vertical shooting.
Don't forget Manual Camera Settings!
I hope this helped
...so have a nice day!
Even missed on the newest Note Smartphones!
Here's what i posted in the Note 4♦Thread:
Hannah Stern said:
If your phone is Connected to the Charger but there's no battery in it, you can't operate it! (On Galaxy Pocket/Star, you can Operate it in the ONKEY 7S Screen.)
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Hey @Hannah Stern
1. I am a Girl. And i'm 11 years old.
2. If you want to know more, ask me anytime you want. Feel free asking me. ; )
You surely know the idea of „Ultrapixels" or n
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That is really impressive. The world needs more people like you. Mmm not much. I've seen a video on it but don't recall much information.
I recently bought a GoPro Hero 4 Silver Edition. Woo!! Do you know anything about ISO and FPS?
And thank you for all the useful information
Lasty,
Merry Christmas everyone!
No Thanks Button
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Hey @Hannah Stern
That is really impressive. The world needs more people like you. Mmm not much. I've seen a video on it but don't recall much information.
I recently bought a GoPro Hero 4 Silver Edition. Woo!! Do you know anything about ISO and FPS?
And thank you for all the useful information
Lasty,
Merry Christmas everyone!
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I'd like to press the Thanks-Button for this post - but i'm not able to do!
Where is the thanks button?
I can't see it!
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FPS - Frames (Pictures) Per Second you see in a Video.
ISO - Light Sensivity. Lower - less noise of image (you can find example images everywhere on the Internet.) Try aloway to use a Lower ISO.
Well... lower iso - less light and needs longer exposure time but better Image-Quality.
But if there's less light and you choose a Higher ISO, it's like turning up a Radio with weak signal strength then also the background noise will be louder.
If a Video is with 15 fps, the minimum possible exposure time is 1/15 sek.
I hope i helped. All the best @xptN and have a nice day
8k
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/general/8k-video-pda-devices-t2990150
- Full HD is enough
. Really big battery so that 3 days without charching is okay
- 5" dimensions
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- Full HD is enough
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What do you mean?
For Video-Recording or Screen Resolution?
Have a nice daý☻☺
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vetalorlov said:
I think, 6MP too low. If to do UltraPixel then not less 8 UltraPixel
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8MP isn't worthed it really - if it's 8MP 4:3.
It's a good resolution but the 3264 Width-Pixels are too less for 4k.
8,6MP-16:9 IS actually 4k.
For FullHD-Recording, the Lowest Sensor-Resolution which is needed is 2.1MP (1920x1080 FullHD)
Hannah Stern said:
What do you mean?
For Video-Recording or Screen Resolution?
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haha good point
XTPN said:
The link to my '2015 Concept Phone' video. Finally!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GZP5tiEko8&list=UUrXHEU3hnGj3McjXUctKHOA&index=1
Thanks
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This looks like CAT BT15 and B15Q,
Related
Right, so with a bold statement like "the nexus 5 is the best camera you have ever owned" you probably think i'm completely crazy. But I would like to try and see if I can explain why I made such a statement in the first place. With many of you mentioning how the camera doesn't measure up to other phones on the market and comments discrediting it all over the forum I though I needed to point out a few things.
1) The image stabilization is amazing. Literally stunning. Having recently been to see Bring me the horizon I decided to use the phone to take a few photos and some video of the gig. Now while the nexus 5 may not be the only phone on the market with good OIS it is most definitely one of the best. Have a look at some of the videos below, all were filmed completely hand held, and while the audio may be poor (ill get to this later) it is still a very good image considering the conditions.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/evPUs6pIeW0
http://www.youtube.com/embed/K2u-gR-XLVc
2) Low light performance is amazing too. Many people have compared this to the photos from the HTC One, and iPhone 5 saying that the Nexus 5 doesn't bring out enough light in certain areas and that the colours are off, but if you look at it properly and check the colours you find that the Nexus 5 produces much sharper, less over saturated and less hazy night time shots. Some people like the over-saturated look but honestly from the point of view of a photographer, your better to take a 'flat' image from the phone and edit it than try and edit a poor image from the HTC One. Of course I will admit the Lumia 1020 blows any other phone out of the water, but its hardly a fair fight..
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Although the G2 appears brighter in this image, the nexus 5 still wins on colour accuracy, that is however subject to opinion.
3) The Nexus 5 is aimed with amateur photographers in mind. The little ring around the back camera, yep that glass bit. Its magnetic which makes for very easy mounting of mobile extension lenses, this coupled with the very powerful new image editing tool in the gallery seems to hint that Google want to help you get more out of your photos. More importantly the editor is now non destructive, meaning you can undo all changes and get your original image back very easily. :good:
4) Nexus 5 images are a editors dream (when it comes to smartphones anyway). As mentioned above the Nexus 5 creates almost reference style images it makes editing, colour correction, exposure correction amazing and camera software updates on the way and a few improved camera apps in the play store, it can out put some very detailed near RAW quality images which a a joy to edit, not some of the over processed rubbish the iphone 5 and HTC output.
5) The aperture, while only being f2.4 it is still a reasonably wide aperture which means that it can do lovely close ups and in good lighting conditions its better than most point and shoot cameras. The camera is very sharp when compared to many other and while some people may say that the videos and photos in low light can get a little grainy but I think its at an acceptable level.
Sound quality, now although above I said the sound quality was poor, under normal conditions it performs very well, the problem in my videos was that I was at Brixton O2 and they have a 9000w audio system (for comparison your average disco is around 2500w) and this is made worse by me being stood three meters away from the subs.
Shutter lag, something I forgot when first writing this, is completely software based, many of the free camera apps on the play store fix this issue and I am sure goggle will fix this with an update soon!
So what im really trying to say is...
The Nexus 5 is the phone Google are branding as a way to keep memories, right from the first ad its has been sold as the phone to document life with and I think it really does a good job of that, yes the photos aren't DSLR standard but thats not what its about, its about making sure you get the shot, that memory captured to keep with you. I think the real ethos of the nexus 5 is the phone for life, and in that sense I think it does an amazing job.
But really the most important thing to remember is that
The best camera in the world is the one that you have on you at the time!
You didn't address the long focus times and terrible shutter lag. Thanks for your effort but you are not convincing me of anything. You should also change your title to reflect if taking pictures of non moving objects only because anything that moves won't stay still long enough for the N5 to focus and actually snap the picture.
Your title also does not reflect your statement below either:
Of course I will admit the Lumia 1020 blows any other phone out of the water, but its hardly a fair fight..
-Reserved-
Please, post your opinions along with your own photos and videos taken with the nexus 5
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afraaa said:
i also wonder how ppl complaining ... in low light its awesome .. pictures are talking here and other review sites look here and see how nexus 5 beats iphone 5s s !!
it alos awesome on focus picturing : see for yourself and then you will ocnvinced
http://narenji.ir/sites/default/files/uploaded/pw/2528/2013/11/Google-Nexus-5-narenji-20131105.jpg
http://narenji.ir/sites/default/files/uploaded/pw/2528/2013/11/Apple-iPhone-5s-narenji-20131105.jpg
and also its about colors .nexus 5 has better natural colors :
http://narenji.ir/sites/default/files/uploaded/pw/2528/2013/11/Google-Nexus-5-narenji-20131105_0.jpg
http://narenji.ir/sites/default/fil...013/11/Apple-iPhone-5s-narenji-20131105_0.jpg
http://narenji.ir/sites/default/files/uploaded/pw/2528/2013/11/Google-Nexus-5-narenji-20131105_3.jpg
http://narenji.ir/sites/default/fil...013/11/Apple-iPhone-5s-narenji-20131105_3.jpg
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[email protected] said:
You didn't address the long focus times and terrible shutter lag.
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Shutter lag, something I forgot when first writing this, is completely software based, many of the free camera apps on the play store fix this issue and I am sure goggle will fix this with an update soon!
thanks for reminding me
I would also say thats not true, moving objects are not a huge problem its the focusing which again is only a massive problem if your taking photos of something very fast moving like sports, I also think this is easily fixed with software updates
Oli1122 said:
Shutter lag, something I forgot when first writing this, is completely software based, many of the free camera apps on the play store fix this issue and I am sure goggle will fix this with an update soon!
thanks for reminding me
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I am yet to find a 3rd party app that fixes the issue. So far they all have some kind of issue of their own.
Until we see a fix from Google this is how the camera is acting today and any review or opinion should based on current usage and not in the hopes of an update. No one knows when Google will fix this if they can fix it at all.
[email protected] said:
I am yet to find a 3rd party app that fixes the issue. So far they all have some kind of issue of their own.
Until we see a fix from Google this is how the camera is acting today and any review or opinion should based on current usage and not in the hopes of an update. No one knows when Google will fix this if they can fix it at all.
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Google are working on a fix to come out soon apparently but until then ive been using the Moto X camera apk much faster and generally much better. Another solution is to record a video and then tap the screen for instant photos. Once done just delete the video
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I'm not sure why I started laughing while reading the OP's post. I thought they were being sarcastic, but they are really serious.:highfive:
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Yep, im serious
Oli1122 said:
Shutter lag, something I forgot when first writing this, is completely software based, many of the free camera apps on the play store fix this issue and I am sure goggle will fix this with an update soon!
thanks for reminding me
I would also say thats not true, moving objects are not a huge problem its the focusing which again is only a massive problem if your taking photos of something very fast moving like sports, I also think this is easily fixed with software updates
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If you think the camera only has problems capturing fast moving things like sports you did not really use your camera enough to write up your opinion article here. lol
Not saying the camera can't be fixed with software, I am just saying you can't review the camera based on an if Google updates it. When Google updates it, you can then update your review to reflect the update. Until then your review should be a tell all of the camera today for people who might be deciding on the N5 not what might be later on.
If you can't tell I am extremely annoyed at the camera on the N5 and Google for releasing it like this. lol
I've been using the MotoX APK and getting great quality pictures, very little lag and overall a much better experience. If I need HDR then I will use the stock camera. Focus time and lag shouldn't matter in HDR anyway since it's not moving.
[email protected] said:
If you think the camera only has problems capturing fast moving things like sports you did not really use your camera enough to write up your opinion article here. lol
Not saying the camera can't be fixed with software, I am just saying you can't review the camera based on an if Google updates it. When Google updates it, you can then update your review to reflect the update. Until then your review should tell all of the camera today for people who might be deciding on the N5.
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My review is based on what ive experienced with it so far with the stock camera app and im not guessing at what Google will fix or wont fix, ive used the camera in very different conditions and only found a problem with very fast moving subjects, but its not a massive problem and can be solved with other camera apps that are available now for free. I don't see your problem?
Oli1122 said:
My review is based on what ive experienced with it so far with the stock camera app and im not guessing at what Google will fix or wont fix, ive used the camera in very different conditions and only found a problem with very fast moving subjects, but its not a massive problem and can be solved with other camera apps that are available now for free. I don't see your problem?
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Please tell me what camera apps will help me right now because currently I cannot get any picture of my kid on my phone because he does not like to pose like a flower or a building. I am always willing to listen and have tried a few apps on the Play Store that need to be updated for the N5.
[email protected] said:
Please tell me what camera apps will help me right now because currently I cannot get any picture of my kid on my phone because he does not like to pose like a flower or a building. I am always willing to listen and have tried a few apps on the Play Store that need to be updated for the N5.
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Like I said try the MotoX apk, does a much better job than the stock one in most everything but video and HDR+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380199
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Based on the samples the camera does seem very capable (albeit with high level of inconsistency), but it's dynamic range is subpar. Look how much clipping is going on, nothing burned out on the 5S photo while mustache fella's body is clipped all over the place. I guess that's more of a lens issue than sensor, but I do not like that in normal condition (non HDR) you rarely see a photo without clipping.
Certainly is the best in it's price range. I don't expect the best camera in a 350€ phone, but it's very good for what I need it. If I need to take quality pictures, I have my nikon dslr, which blows any phone out of the water anyway.
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Based on the samples the camera does seem very capable (albeit with high level of inconsistency), but it's dynamic range is subpar. Look how much clipping is going on, nothing burned out on the 5S photo while mustache fella's body is clipped all over the place. I guess that's more of a lens issue than sensor, but I do not like that in normal condition (non HDR) you rarely see a photo without clipping.
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Yes, you make very good points, I also think its good that it has good dynamic range and optics rather than amazing colours as you can edit those in post. You cant change physical factors like lenses in post. :good:
BoneXDA said:
Based on the samples the camera does seem very capable (albeit with high level of inconsistency), but it's dynamic range is subpar. Look how much clipping is going on, nothing burned out on the 5S photo while mustache fella's body is clipped all over the place. I guess that's more of a lens issue than sensor, but I do not like that in normal condition (non HDR) you rarely see a photo without clipping.
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Exactly, if you look at the N5 versus the others you will notice on both Finn and Jake there are overexposed, blown out portions you don't find on the others. This was a problem with the HTC One as well in my testing.
I am just hopeful Google releases a real fix, not some BS excuse for a camera fix. Having come from the HTC One I am happy with the overall quality of the N5's camera with the following caveats - most photos have to be shot in HDR+ and forget about pics of moving kids. I've actually been doing what was suggested earlier - take video and then quick tap the screen to take many single frames, keep the best. The one issue is if you do want to keep the video it stutters everywhere you took a photo - what the hell is with that!?
To the OP - I applaud your courage to buck the trend and make this review. Everyone's opinion counts!
Oli1122 said:
Yes, you make very good points, I also think its good that it has good dynamic range and optics rather than amazing colours as you can edit those in post. You cant change physical factors like lenses in post. :good:
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lol, you didn't address any points brought up in the post you quoted. The dynamic range of the Nexus 5 SUCKS, waaaaaaaay to many highlights blown out, and you can't fix all of it in PP from my experiences.
And for action shots, FORGET ABOUT IT, its a nightmare in frustration. Too slow to load, too slow to focus, unbelievable shutter lag. By the time the picture is taken, the moment is long gone. Unlike other people who say the camera is fine, I don't just take pictures of inanimate objects.
Face it, the only reason you made this post is that you're justifying to yourself that the camera is good
Oli1122 said:
Like I said try the MotoX apk, does a much better job than the stock one in most everything but video and HDR+
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2380199
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So this camera seems to only take pictures in 1920x1080 (2MP) and is only about 300KB in size. Is there a way to change these settings?
That can also be why the shutter might seem quicker?
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Exactly, if you look at the N5 versus the others you will notice on both Finn and Jake there are overexposed, blown out portions you don't find on the others. This was a problem with the HTC One as well in my testing.
I am just hopeful Google releases a real fix, not some BS excuse for a camera fix. Having come from the HTC One I am happy with the overall quality of the N5's camera with the following caveats - most photos have to be shot in HDR+ and forget about pics of moving kids. I've actually been doing what was suggested earlier - take video and then quick tap the screen to take many single frames, keep the best. The one issue is if you do want to keep the video it stutters everywhere you took a photo - what the hell is with that!?
To the OP - I applaud your courage to buck the trend and make this review. Everyone's opinion counts!
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Thank you. Im trying to change the way people view it. I think we go in to these camera comparisons looking for the wrong thing. After all these are mobile phones not DSLRs so if you want amazing photography go buy a camera, I just think the Nexus 5 has several tactical advantages that make it slightly better for documenting life than many others, the few miner problems appear to be basic software stuff.
walie said:
lol, you didn't address any points brought up in the post you quoted. The dynamic range of the Nexus 5 SUCKS, waaaaaaaay to many highlights blown out, and you can't fix all of it in PP from my experiences.
And for action shots, FORGET ABOUT IT, its a nightmare in frustration. Too slow to load, too slow to focus, unbelievable shutter lag. By the time the picture is taken, the moment is long gone. Unlike other people who say the camera is fine, I don't just take pictures of inanimate objects.
Face it, the only reason you made this post is that you're justifying to yourself that the camera is good
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No, im more than happy with my purchase, much more than happy. My phone is for android and the occasional photo, if i want to take pictures I use my 5D III, im not stupid. Im simply making this because I believe Google have the right idea.
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Thank you. Im trying to change the way people view it. I think we go in to these camera comparisons looking for the wrong thing. After all these are mobile phones not DSLRs so if you want amazing photography go buy a camera, I just think the Nexus 5 has several tactical advantages that make it slightly better for documenting life than many others, the few miner problems appear to be basic software stuff.
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You are claiming the Nexus 5 is the best camera phone we will ever own. No one here is expecting DSLR quality but if I am going to snap a picture when I am out, at this point I am grabbing my wifes HTC One and snapping away.
Maybe after a software update my mind will change but for now, the camera is to slow. Not saying the pictures are bad, it is just waaaaaaay to slow for my needs.
If I want DLSR quality photo's I will use my Nikon but I do want to be able to capture pictures with my phone other then flowers.
Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 16mp S5? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
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Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 16mp S5? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
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Yellowness camera can not be better
There is sony sensor, sony sensor is yellownes/redness photos
Watch this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z2/general/white-balance-t2870875
Color reproducion like in 5s
Also
Nokia Lumia 1520
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Samsung tried, yellowness although decreased
http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/Apple_iPhone_6_Plus_vs_Samsung_GALAXY_Note_4.html
but it still there
http://www.mobile-review.com/review/samsung-galaxy-note4.shtml#s9
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But s5 camera also have bug. Rosines in non HDR mode.
Best cameras now is Lenovo Vibe Z2 Pro, Galaxy Alpha, Nokia Lumia 1020 and Nokia Lumia 1520
sofia-captivate said:
Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 16mp S5? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
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http://www.tomsguide.com/us/iphone-6-ios8-camera-problems,news-19585.html
All phone cameras have their strengths and weaknesses, and most compact standalone cameras are way better.
sofia-captivate said:
Was just at a store and saw iphone 6 camera and i was amazed on how amazing it was so my question is how is iphone 6 8mp camera better than 16mp S5? None of android phones have come close to iPhone 6 camera. Why is that? Not that i like apple products.
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Did you compare both?
Or where did you see that?
From what I've seen, the iPhone 6 camera is very good for a 8mp camera but not even close to the S5's camera.
Lots of reviewed site said that 6+ camera better color reproduction than s5 but can't compete the detail value because of 8mp
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Galaxy's camera seem to be slightly better.
The S5 is better from a detail perspective in outdoor shots but in low light and Indoor shots, the iPhone 6 wins due to the larger pixels Apple implemented. The S5 is still able to compete due too the image stabilization mode but that's only really beneficial with stationary scenes and subjects.
I have read that colour reproduction is typically better on the iPhone since the S5 usually produces very vibrant and contrast rich photos. It really depends on your personal preferences in the end.
Both phones will take great photos but I would consider the iPhone to be more "idiot" proof. It's relatively hard to mess up your shot when shooting with an iPhone. The S5 on the other hand can produce a vast range of images depending on the settings you change.
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Idiots still using megapixels to judge camera quality. 8 vs. 16 doesn't mean **** on these small screens. Even in an 8x10 print you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
bloodrain954 said:
Idiots still using megapixels to judge camera quality. 8 vs. 16 doesn't mean **** on these small screens. Even in an 8x10 print you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
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do you just view your pic and don't stretch it to zoom? [emoji15]
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Idiots ) ... SRSLY? all of you are srsly? Can u be OK with a 8mpx phone which cost almost 1000$? Fu* THIS sh**t
U DON'T even have ir blaster, Bluetooth, WATERPROOF, etc etc etc
1mpx front camera? )))))) OMG
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As an hardcore Android advocate, it's a bit hard to edmitt: but the IPhone 6 camera rocks!!! I just played with it for an hour and I'm really impressed! Man, can that camera take nice pictures - lighting fast! The auto focus is the fasted I have ever tested. I compared it to my S5 side by side, and the S5 has no chance in this case! Jesus!
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As an hardcore Android advocate, it's a bit hard to edmitt : but the IPhone 6 camera rocks!!! Just playrd with it for an hour and I'm really impressed! Man can that camera take nice pictures lighting fast! The auto focus is the fasted I have even tested. Compared it with my S5 side by side, and the S5 has no chance in this case! Jesus!
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Agreed. Not to mention how much better it feels compared to the s5. Don't get me wrong I still wouldn't trade. I'm having too much fun with all the new roms.
chromatica86 said:
Agreed. Not to mention how much better it feels compared to the s5. Don't get me wrong I still wouldn't trade. I'm having too much fun with all the new roms.
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Agreed! ? felt soooo premium!
I also would never leave Android and the ability to customize everything the way I want it. Just hope "we" can catch up with the premium feel and function.
S5 camera beats iphone 6 details wise. Must be blind not to see it.
Tron666 said:
S5 camera beats iphone 6 details wise. Must be blind not to see it.
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It's true but that's only really applicable in daylight situations. The S5's extra detail turns into a noise filled mess in low light situations where as the iPhone 6 with its lower resolution camera retains more usable detail albeit with some noise but that's too be expected with such a small sensor.
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More yellownes. This is best camera?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSxUQQr33Qk
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More yellownes. This is best camera?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSxUQQr33Qk
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Yes I think the IPhone is closer to correct color reproduction. The G3 is way to cold is this video sample. Sure, the IPhone is probably a bit to warm. Bit over all it looks great.
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Yes I think the IPhone is closer to correct color reproduction. The G3 is way to cold is this video sample. Sure, the IPhone is probably a bit to warm. Bit over all it looks great.
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lol
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lol
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Well, it is! I've tested both cameras at the same time , so I know! That's more than you two Internet warriors can say.......
i will get right to it after seeeing the full review on mobile-review i was really disappointed with the low light ability of the cam even with OIS
heres the comparison
S5 Vs N4
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/low/note4-25.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/sgs5/low/sgs5-26.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/low/note4-27.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/sgs5/low/sgs5-27.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/low/note4-20.jpg
http://mobile-review.com/review/image/samsung/galaxy-note4/photo/sgs5/low/sgs5-20.jpg
N4 vs Z3 , Lumia 930 , S5
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wow lumia really kick it ass
Who cares about nokia phones you can only take good pictures with it. There's no ecosystem, they are worthless.
Samsungs always had a terrible time with lowlight shots.
Note 3 is abysmal as Samsung always has that over processed cartoon like gel appearance.
Was hoping for much better but the Z3 woops it.
xManMythLegend said:
Samsungs always had a terrible time with lowlight shots.
Note 3 is abysmal as Samsung always has that over processed cartoon like gel appearance.
Was hoping for much better but the Z3 woops it.
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I really don't get why samsung don't work on improving the low-light performance; it's been their cameras' achilles heel for like forever.
There is another website that compares the low light performance of N4 against Z3, iphone 6 plus and butterfly 2 (from htc).
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/102/4914690/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
It is actually a blind comparison of the 4 phones (named A, B, C and D), but the general consensus is that A =butterfly 2, B=iphone6p, C=N4, D=Z3.
In my opinion, N4 outperforms iphone6p in many cases, and is at least as good as Z3, while Z3 absolutely tanks in the last competition.
That's why I have much more faith in the low light performance of N4 and looking forward to it
alexcarterkarsus said:
There is another website that compares the low light performance of N4 against Z3, iphone 6 plus and butterfly 2 (from htc).
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/102/4914690/1/rv/samsung-galaxy-note-4-review/
It is actually a blind comparison of the 4 phones (named A, B, C and D), but the general consensus is that A =butterfly 2, B=iphone6p, C=N4, D=Z3.
In my opinion, N4 outperforms iphone6p in many cases, and is at least as good as Z3, while Z3 absolutely tanks in the last competition.
That's why I have much more faith in the low light performance of N4 and looking forward to it
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sorry but imo N4 look the worst after Butterfly 2 , IP6 plus looks it has good color reproduction under low light with good details , N4 has horrible over processing with denoise filter and ****ty contrast ( like all samsung phones = ****ty low light performance ) , Z3 looks ok better than N4 and even it doesn't have OIS
Nokia still the king of low light photography
Toss3 said:
I really don't get why samsung don't work on improving the low-light performance; it's been their cameras' achilles heel for like forever.
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yep its sucks , cams on Samsung phones works great with good light but as soon u go inside with medium lighting the images will become really bad and with low light the images turns horrible specially with night mode on u will get unusable bad image with no details at all
White balance is off on all but the lumia. Wonder if WB settings were different between them.
Those images are hardly conclusive. The mobile-review is a rushed review of a pre-production unit with preliminary software. Most importantly, the Note 4 camera isn't less capable. It has OIS and a Sony IMX240 sensor. It is just the software that needs tweaking. This is their first OIS camera so we shouldn't be judging it until the final retail product is out. They may be too conservative with the OIS and instead are using too high ISO and too quick shutter, the opposite of what LG did on its LG G2. And you shouldn't be directly linking to images on another site. It is bad manners. Link the whole review instead.
The E-price shootout is quite encouraging if the C phone is in fact the Note 4. Definitely beats B (supposedly iPhone 6+) in most of the shots and D in the flash shot.
All the images in eprice. Com is inconsistent, each one looks different and not taken from same spot
Another low-light camera comparison, between N4 and ip5s
http://www.ppomppu.co.kr/zboard/view.php?id=phone&no=2803207
got to say, I got even more confidence with N4 now
Based on those reviews it still seems to be an improvement over my note 3. Hopefully it get better from here. But Note still is the better device out of all 4 IMO. So I'm content with the result.
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alexcarterkarsus said:
Another low-light camera comparison, between N4 and ip5s
http://www.ppomppu.co.kr/zboard/view.php?id=phone&no=2803207
got to say, I got even more confidence with N4 now
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Man, I sure hope those are legit. I've seen many differing photo comparisons and some just make the N4 look horrendous. There was an youtube comparison between a Z3 and an N4 that made the N4 look worse than my N2. Not sure what to believe ATM.
I believe history. Samsungs sensors and features are not the problem. Its the insanely terrible processing that turns medium to lowlight pics into smeared noisy nonsense. For many lowlight is a majority of where they take pics (most social events are dimly lit) Nothing Ive read or seen leads me to believe they even care to fix it.
k1ng617 said:
Man, I sure hope those are legit. I've seen many differing photo comparisons and some just make the N4 look horrendous. There was an youtube comparison between a Z3 and an N4 that made the N4 look worse than my N2. Not sure what to believe ATM.
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dont go by that video,i do watched that................that seems to be from some other device rather than note 4 or there might be issues bcos most of the n4 pics he compared seems to be blurred.......................have seen much better n4 pics from mobilereview's russian review and i even checked 100% crops of full res images in comp with ip6+ as provided by them and note 4 has better details and its the clear winner.
k1ng617 said:
Man, I sure hope those are legit. I've seen many differing photo comparisons and some just make the N4 look horrendous. There was an youtube comparison between a Z3 and an N4 that made the N4 look worse than my N2. Not sure what to believe ATM.
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Almost N4 low light shots haven't got ISO info. This mean they are software processing, different to iPhone 5S. When taking low light shot, you have to wait some seconds for intergrated photo software tweak it, like Note 3.
iPhone and Z2/Z3 normally push higher ISO to get better low light shot. You will spend less time for each shot.
k1ng617 said:
Man, I sure hope those are legit. I've seen many differing photo comparisons and some just make the N4 look horrendous. There was an youtube comparison between a Z3 and an N4 that made the N4 look worse than my N2. Not sure what to believe ATM.
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That "comparison" is obviously fake! Note 4 pics on that video look worst than S4 or S5.
And who the hell is releasing camera (photo) comparison on YT? Without the jpg files? I call that comparison BS.
This one looks real and how Note 4 pics SHOULD look, i just hope to se Note 4 vs. iPhone 6 or 6+ soon.
alexcarterkarsus said:
Another low-light camera comparison, between N4 and ip5s
http://www.ppomppu.co.kr/zboard/view.php?id=phone&no=2803207
got to say, I got even more confidence with N4 now
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Note 4 looks really good. Hope it's true.
Hello. So, there has been a confusion on how to capture better photos and videos on Nexus 5. With the introduction of Android Lollipop we have the option to shoot RAW photos (which is basically the same as before, with the difference being that the image is not compressed or processed), and also we got a great app which is called L Camera..
L Camera was a great alternative for those who wanted to squeeze out as much as Nexus 5's camera has to offer. We even got to shoot at 1080p/60fps(although it was never fixed to work properly) and a resolution very close to 4K.
I hoped that since Google unlocked all this power for us with Lollipop, Marshmallow was going to bring even better stuff on the table. This does not seem to be the case though.
So, right now we are basically stuck in terms of camera options. The L Camera has been outdated, problematic and unsupported for quite some while now and Google's stock camera is still really bad.
How do you feel about all this guys? Have you found any better camera app than L Camera that works on Marshmallow? Are you building something yourselves? (maybe and improved version of L Camera)
Let's discuss this!
There is this "Manual Camera", "Camera FV-5", and "Open Camera"
This may sound strange, but the Marshmallow stock camera app (which has been updated via the play store after M was released) is far better than that of Lollipop. I have found that it is far faster to respond (both focusing and the shutter), and handles low light much better (including with HDR). The auto white balance is much improved, too. The controls are more convenient than they were on Lollipop. This was a big surprise. One day, after routine updates, the camera just became much better!
True, it is no SLR, but whereas the photos I got from the Nexus 5 on Lollipop were mostly unusable except for viewing on another phone, now I get decent shots that I am not embarrassed to post online.
I use Proshot, really great camera app.
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jshames said:
This may sound strange, but the Marshmallow stock camera app (which has been updated via the play store after M was released) is far better than that of Lollipop. I have found that it is far faster to respond (both focusing and the shutter), and handles low light much better (including with HDR). The auto white balance is much improved, too. The controls are more convenient than they were on Lollipop. This was a big surprise. One day, after routine updates, the camera just became much better!
True, it is no SLR, but whereas the photos I got from the Nexus 5 on Lollipop were mostly unusable except for viewing on another phone, now I get decent shots that I am not embarrassed to post online.
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Got to agree. I notice especially low light performance has improved greatly on the stock camera app on marshmallow. Not sure what Google has done but good job on them for doing it. It still responses like crap and lags some times but if the pictures are better I am all for it.
Stock app is much better its what I call serviceable now. I always knew the Nexus 5s camera was capable but poor software always held it back. Sad to see it took almost 3 years after it launched to become capable.
Open camera is also a great app and 100% free and open source
The best choice is to shoot DNG and then use lightroom for android
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The lens is prone to gather grease from you fingers causing a hazy streaky look. I always bring a microfiber cloth to clean it off before shooting.
There isnt a proper RAW color profile available so it takes work to get images to pop like the JPEGs do. One of these days I'l generate one, it requires shooting a colorchecker chart outside in clear mid-day.
I haven't taken much pictures with it but this one.
I have a 6S and iPhone 5, I had lost my iPhone 5 out of stupidity. I wanted a cheap replacement and heard good things about the nexus, I had already tried the Galaxy s5 and htc one m8 so might as well kill 2 birds with one stone a good cheap phone and a chance to try out the nexus 5. Very impressed so far, very smooth. Runs much smoother then the galaxies I had. Ran me $160 CAD and it's unlocked
I decided to take a picture last night with the nexus. Came out amazing, took some other low lighting shots in my room and compared it to my 6s and it isn't that bad to be completely honest much better then my s5, Note edge and htc in low lighting.
The N5 is terrible for general photography esp low-light. Only my iPhone 5S is worse in low-light situations lol.
RazorMC said:
The N5 is terrible for general photography esp low-light. Only my iPhone 5S is worse in low-light situations lol.
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It's even worse than a dedicated camera. But you can improve things by processing RAWs:
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Here's a daylight example of a processed RAW:
RoadToNever said:
It's even worse than a dedicated camera. But you can improve things by processing RAWs:
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Here's a daylight example of a processed RAW:
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RAW and post-editing kind of defeats the entire purpose of point-and-shoot. The first pic is really amazing with the amount of detail and clarity. The second one has too much grain for my liking. Takes me back to those Nokia cameraphones from yesteryears lol
But MM has really improved cam quality if the user knows how to use the manual settings. I've got better results with Camera FV-5 than with any other app.
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RAW and post-editing kind of defeats the entire purpose of point-and-shoot. The first pic is really amazing with the amount of detail and clarity. The second one has too much grain for my liking. Takes me back to those Nokia cameraphones from yesteryears lol
But MM has really improved cam quality if the user knows how to use the manual settings. I've got better results with Camera FV-5 than with any other app.
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Yes, RAW isn't user friendly, but this is thread about camera quality The second pic is really pushing it. It was a very dimly lit venue, a challenge for any camera. But offline processing allows much more sophisticated algorithms. Normally that shot would either be underexposed or at best a smoothed out, waxy-looking mess.
RoadToNever said:
Yes, RAW isn't user friendly, but this is thread about camera quality The second pic is really pushing it. It was a very dimly lit venue, a challenge for any camera. But offline processing allows much more sophisticated algorithms. Normally that shot would either be underexposed or at best a smoothed out, waxy-looking mess.
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True, but that means instant sharing is out of the question. And many people would be uncomfortable processing pics just so some distant grandma "Likes" it on Fb.
Everytime i take low-light shots, I remember my trusty N73 with its huge LED flash and N82 with xenon.
How would you say we can make the best use of HDR on our N5 with 3rd party apps? And does it really work?
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True, but that means instant sharing is out of the question. And many people would be uncomfortable processing pics just so some distant grandma "Likes" it on Fb.
Everytime i take low-light shots, I remember my trusty N73 with its huge LED flash and N82 with xenon.
How would you say we can make the best use of HDR on our N5 with 3rd party apps? And does it really work?
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I have a simple checklist I go through when processing raw photos: exposure, white balance and NR if needed. I rarely need anything else so for a single shot I'm normally done in less than a minute. Raw converters offer many options which can seem overwhelming for the novice, but there's nothing to it if you stick to the most important ones. OTOH if you are working on an uncalibrated monitor there's a small chance are you might be making things worse color-wise. I don't do HDR, sorry.
Snap camera? I threw it under system/apps, changed the name to camera2.apk and even the power button hot key works.
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"A better camera" super mode do the job very well in any light conditions.
But going manual pays it in certain situations.
https://flic.kr/p/v3nAd3
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prog19 said:
"A better camera" super mode do the job very well in any light conditions.
But going manual pays it in certain situations.
https://flic.kr/p/v3nAd3
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
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I'm enjoying "A Better Camera" too. It's really simple to use and produces nice photos. But I still prefer Camera FV-5 over it when I need manual setings.
prog19 said:
The best choice is to shoot DNG and then use lightroom for android
I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive
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lightroom can now take raw pictures with our N5
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lightroom can now take raw pictures with our N5
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And output any dng to full resolution.
The sad thing about LR is the import picture method
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Here are some comparisons between all three sensors on the stock app as well as comparing full auto and NightScape to the equivalents in the GCam app.
Zip file for photos https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jbGAJ3USNCJtH-SFTrqpTrAC_S7bu5d3/view?usp=sharing
https://imgur.com/a/N1NpuvZ
Using this Gcam: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KII7qLKk4ZOX__4CJq2g5FHdczZgzuMt/view?usp=drive_open
With this config: https://drive.google.com/file/d/14I25VEZPHXo8nJV3xJ6PwGw2fij0XfWm/view?usp=sharing
Apply config like this: https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/f/settings09/
Metering and focus on the church in all photos apart from the zoom for obvious reasons.
Comparisons done with MGC_6_1_021_xcam6_beta5 and Stock Oneplus Camera 3.2.73
Working for me! Thank you.
I like side by side way better for mobile viewing vs scrolling comparisons. Thank you for uploads though.
Downloaded your gcam and profile from above, but the pictures are grainy as hell, looking overall worse than the stock camera, for me
Perhaps just my case, or maybe they need to improve gcam for 7pro first... Gcam on my 6T offers a crisp as hell, much better overall quality than it does on the 7pro
New software update coming in a week to get that DXO review camera quality. Very interested in seeing the diff. Thus far, underwhelmed by the camera.
posedatull said:
Downloaded your gcam and profile from above, but the pictures are grainy as hell, looking overall worse than the stock camera, for me
Perhaps just my case, or maybe they need to improve gcam for 7pro first... Gcam on my 6T offers a crisp as hell, much better overall quality than it does on the 7pro
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i guess you were using with no HDR on??
i noticed once i turned it off, the pictures were grainy
idkwhothatis123 said:
New software update coming in a week to get that DXO review camera quality. Very interested in seeing the diff. Thus far, underwhelmed by the camera.
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Got OOS 9.5.4 GM21BA and the above config - GCam looks slightly better (sharper, less noise reduction) and portraits seem to focus better. Stock app colours pop more but it's debatable as to whether it's more natural. Definitely room for improvement with GCam - OP6 was streets ahead, but there's time yet!
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mrrodge said:
Got OOS 9.5.4 GM21BA and the above config - GCam looks slightly better (sharper, less noise reduction) and portraits seem to focus better. Stock app colours pop more but it's debatable as to whether it's more natural. Definitely room for improvement with GCam - OP6 was streets ahead, but there's time yet!
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mrrodge said:
Got OOS 9.5.4 GM21BA and the above config - GCam looks slightly better (sharper, less noise reduction) and portraits seem to focus better. Stock app colours pop more but it's debatable as to whether it's more natural. Definitely room for improvement with GCam - OP6 was streets ahead, but there's time yet!
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Samples. Add a https as I haven't posted enough to be able to put a link in!
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OP7Pro stock definitely blowing the exposure.
you are either trolling us or OP7 screwed us over with OP7 pro.. redesign camera... my butt!! forget about gcam (of course first gcam builds wont make op7 into a Pixel 3.. op6 had a lot more time.. I bet in 1-2 months we will have dedicated gcam version for op7) BUT LOOK AT BOTH STOCK CAM OP6 vs OP7 !!! you can clearly read the 96 on the OP6
mrrodge said:
Got OOS 9.5.4 GM21BA and the above config - GCam looks slightly better (sharper, less noise reduction) and portraits seem to focus better. Stock app colours pop more but it's debatable as to whether it's more natural. Definitely room for improvement with GCam - OP6 was streets ahead, but there's time yet!
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://1drv.ms/f/s!AnkDbPPJd4UdhB7hfkPFyzRmbSr9
Samples. Add a https as I haven't posted enough to be able to put a link in!
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OP7Pro stock definitely blowing the exposure.
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you are either trolling us or OP7 screwed us over with OP7 pro.. redesign camera... my butt!! forget about gcam (of course first gcam builds wont make op7 into a Pixel 3.. op6 had a lot more time.. I bet in 1-2 months we will have dedicated gcam version for op7) BUT LOOK AT BOTH STOCK CAM OP6 vs OP7 !!! you can clearly read the 96 on the OP6
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Not trolling - received OP7P today.
Let's hope the OP7P gets the same focus from the gcam community... Very unimpressed so far, but, early days.
My worry is the 48mp sensor with a lens that's not really any bigger - I have a bit of experience with CCTV and the general consensus with the experts is that even though IP cameras with 8mp resolution are widely available, 2mp cameras are still better performers, particularly in low light.
Let's hope it's fixable! The over exposure definitely should be. I can't quite get my head around whether the update I installed today was the 'dxomark' one or not.
The Google camera makes my images very orange. Stock camera is what my eyes are seeing.
Look at these...the stock camera looks better than gcam. What are you all using in the settings for yours?
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IIRC, they already said they have a patch being pushed fairly soon to improve things.
Personally, I think things are/will be fine. To put things into perspective, I was going to get a Galaxy S10+, but with the money I saved with the OP7Pro, I got this instead. Yeah... my pictures are just fine.
I'm going to try and get shots from the same position today with RAW enabled on both phones - totally agree on the 96.
Surely the RAW on the OP7P should be far superior to the OP6... If not we're in trouble!
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I'm going to try and get shots from the same position today with RAW enabled on both phones - totally agree on the 96.
Surely the RAW on the OP7P should be far superior to the OP6... If not we're in trouble!
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Done 'em, same link. May need to download/save to your PC, my browser shows colours almost inverted. Really weird though, I'm not getting full resolution on either camera. The OP6 gave me 12mp (apparently with a 16mp sensor) and the OP7P gave me 16mp despite 48mp! Don't get it.
Converted to PNG for lossless quality for your viewing. On the positive, the 96 on OP7P is much better than the OP6 RAW, suggesting the software is over smoothing. Colours are practically non existent on OP7P but it could be white balance etc due to RAW. Still a definite issue with focus on OP7P.
Thoughts? I don't get why RAW output is not giving me all the pixels!
Cheers.
I'm going to try open camera vs these
Just added a couple more - 16mp JPG OP6 vs 48mp JPG OP7P.
Both phones over exposed (OP7P worse) and way too much smoothing on OP7P.
I did substantial testing yesterday with both cameras. What I found was outdoors, in daylight, the stock camera is better than GCam. It's more realistic to what the eye sees. Indoors under lights or lower lights, but not dark, the GCam is better.
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Downloaded your gcam and profile from above, but the pictures are grainy as hell, looking overall worse than the stock camera, for me
Perhaps just my case, or maybe they need to improve gcam for 7pro first... Gcam on my 6T offers a crisp as hell, much better overall quality than it does on the 7pro
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I am literally on offer up right now looking for a used 6t for this exact reason. I feel like the 7 pro with its stock camera software is a HUGE step down in image quality from the 6T + gcam.
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I am literally on offer up right now looking for a used 6t for this exact reason. I feel like the 7 pro with its stock camera software is a HUGE step down in image quality from the 6T + gcam.
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So far I agree - I wish I could get a full res RAW image from each camera to take a proper look but it's not happening.
I'm finding the stock camera completely useless for general use (kids, for instance) - the shutter isn't quick enough. The combination of ZSL and Top Shot on gcam makes the camera worth using; I hope the development catches on to the OP7P soon.
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I'm going to try open camera vs these
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I tried open camera and results were no different than stock for me. What I did notice though is that if you take screenshots of the viewfinder with any of the cameras (but especially the front camera) and then snap a picture and compare the screenshot is obviously better. I'm pretty sure the camera itself is fine the post processing just needs tweaking. Even in its current state though the camera isnt as bad as I was expecting having heard of OP reputation in the camera department and I'm saying that as a Pixel 3 lx user.