There a multiple cases where Z3 Compact suddenly off, and then cannot be boot at all (with any mean available). It randomly can be boot, in my case i charged it a long time (approximately one night), then i saw the LED lights lit hence the successful boot. But 5 minutes later, poof, it die again and cannot be boot. I plugged back to the charger, no LED light or respond whatsoever.
The second time i able to boot it, i reflash the stock rom using the PC Companion repair section. But the problem persist, which hint me that this is maybe a hardware problem. I found in the sony forum that the motherboard or the battery could be fail, OR the battery was too low to lit the LED light during charging (which seem illogical for my case which the phone dead with 100% battery).
In the end i sent it to the service center and the phone not currently held up in a ward for god know how long. The friendly assistant at the service center suggested the board or the battery were failed since the phone didn't respond with charging and reset charging.
Any comment from you guys about the possibility of board and battery failure will be appreciated
There a thread in the sony forum,
https:// talk.sonymobile.com/ t5 / Xperia-Z3-Compact/ Sudden-Death-of-Sony-xperia-Z3-Compact/ td-p/877345/page/5
and based on the thread there is a lot of case happen in Malaysia. So for future owner, watch out!
well, this is a similar case [i suppose] http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/help/bricked-z3c-help-t2952415
Well my Z3C used to be softbricked like you. Meaniez had post my thread about it right above.
The reason for this was the unrespond battery. In my case, I charged it for about 3->4hrs, started at 17%. Then it suddenly softbricked, plugged it to PC, the logo Xperia appeared, but it still remained the same. I took it to the store, their technicians found out that the battery wasn't gone at all, it was hibernate. So they charged it with high-voltage electric for hours, then it came back to life, just like we do the electric shock to save people.
I think my case will help you with a solution to safe your phone.
leonjun said:
Well my Z3C used to be softbricked like you. Meaniez had post my thread about it right above.
The reason for this was the unrespond battery. In my case, I charged it for about 3->4hrs, started at 17%. Then it suddenly softbricked, plugged it to PC, the logo Xperia appeared, but it still remained the same. I took it to the store, their technicians found out that the battery wasn't gone at all, it was hibernate. So they charged it with high-voltage electric for hours, then it came back to life, just like we do the electric shock to save people.
I think my case will help you with a solution to safe your phone.
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Well, in your case, the phone responded when connected to PC. Mine didn't respond at all. Thanks though for your information.
You meant the logo Xperia didn't appear on the phone when you plugged it ?
fzl.abdulaziz said:
There a multiple cases where Z3 Compact suddenly off, and then cannot be boot at all (with any mean available). It randomly can be boot, in my case i charged it a long time (approximately one night), then i saw the LED lights lit hence the successful boot. But 5 minutes later, poof, it die again and cannot be boot. I plugged back to the charger, no LED light or respond whatsoever.
The second time i able to boot it, i reflash the stock rom using the PC Companion repair section. But the problem persist, which hint me that this is maybe a hardware problem. I found in the sony forum that the motherboard or the battery could be fail, OR the battery was too low to lit the LED light during charging (which seem illogical for my case which the phone dead with 100% battery).
In the end i sent it to the service center and the phone not currently held up in a ward for god know how long. The friendly assistant at the service center suggested the board or the battery were failed since the phone didn't respond with charging and reset charging.
Any comment from you guys about the possibility of board and battery failure will be appreciated
There a thread in the sony forum,
https:// talk.sonymobile.com/ t5 / Xperia-Z3-Compact/ Sudden-Death-of-Sony-xperia-Z3-Compact/ td-p/877345/page/5
and based on the thread there is a lot of case happen in Malaysia. So for future owner, watch out!
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I am French, exact same thing happened to me last night (didnt boot, plugged it, pressed power/vol+, booted with red light blinking and when on lockscreen restarted automatically and did the same thing again in a loop, then stopped responding at all. Plugged it for the night, green light this morning. Unplugged, didnt boot. Waited, plugged it again, this time it booted up, and it's still working fine. Did a factory reset and erased my data in case I have to send it to repair. It's such a shame, I love this little phone.
I think I'm done. Sick with having to go to the centre, sick with their crappy excuses and most importantly sick with all the 'bad batch' problems - Glass cracked, Flap covers, and worst of all, sudden death? Gosh that's crazy. Btw I am from Malaysia and my phone last night have just officially been infected with the sudden death problem for no reason. I am pretty confident that even if they swap my phone with a new one, that would also be from the bad batch.
But again, this is just me. I hope yours would be much better because overall the phone is actually quite good given the size. Cheers
So I got the black screen of death issue and I think I solved it.
My internal nand was pretty full (got the warning several time). Eventually, the screen turned black one day and the phone wouldnt turn back on, even with
- reboot power/volume combo
- reset button behind the flap (30s+)
- charger connected/disconnected with same buttons
Leaving the phone there for a day or two (trying to boot it every now and then with the power button...), eventually it works/boots for some magical reason. Then it goes black again for a day or two, sometimes quickly, sometimes not. I did that a few times over several days...
Eventually when I got it to boot again I directly did a factory reset. This does not clean the internal sdcard. Things worked for a week straight (ie longer than usual) and bang, black screen again, and again and again...
So when I got it to boot once again (yes, that's PAINFUL to test all this) I did a factory reset + wipe of the internal sdcard.
Since that day, no more black screen of death.
I therefore suspect there's a bug with the nand controller when its nearly full or is full, or there's a bug plus bad nand hardware that causes it. I'm a little clueless on why it can eventually reboot.
I tested this 20, 30 times just to be certain, and it really seems related. So now I'm curious, any of you with the problem had the internal nand nearly full ? (or above 75% full at least). If so, try to boot the phone again a bit later and remove files from the sdcard just to see.
bilboa1 said:
So I got the black screen of death issue and I think I solved it.
My internal nand was pretty full (got the warning several time). Eventually, the screen turned black one day and the phone wouldnt turn back on, even with
- reboot power/volume combo
- reset button behind the flap (30s+)
- charger connected/disconnected with same buttons
Leaving the phone there for a day or two (trying to boot it every now and then with the power button...), eventually it works/boots for some magical reason. Then it goes black again for a day or two, sometimes quickly, sometimes not. I did that a few times over several days...
Eventually when I got it to boot again I directly did a factory reset. This does not clean the internal sdcard. Things worked for a week straight (ie longer than usual) and bang, black screen again, and again and again...
So when I got it to boot once again (yes, that's PAINFUL to test all this) I did a factory reset + wipe of the internal sdcard.
Since that day, no more black screen of death.
I therefore suspect there's a bug with the nand controller when its nearly full or is full, or there's a bug plus bad nand hardware that causes it. I'm a little clueless on why it can eventually reboot.
I tested this 20, 30 times just to be certain, and it really seems related. So now I'm curious, any of you with the problem had the internal nand nearly full ? (or above 75% full at least). If so, try to boot the phone again a bit later and remove files from the sdcard just to see.
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I know I'm a bit late to the party, but a colleague of mine just contacted me about the same issue - phone rebooted and remains dead.
I have not yet had a chance to look into the phone itself, but according to him the internal storage would be full up to a few MB, which would explain the issue based on your investigation.
Will look into it further...
Dude,
I feel your pain, read what happened to me : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3037336
The phone went back in warranty, I just had to pay the postal service, nothing else.
They didn't told me what was the problem, but I think they replaced the motherboard.
Sent from my D5803 using XDA Free mobile app
FYI: Here's the report I received from them.
Well, bad news I guess... I tried whatever I could possibly think of, but the best I get is a steady red LED for some time, after that the LED turns off again and still no reaction at all (also while the LED is lit).
From what I can tell, it's most likely a battery issue, because when the red LED first lights up, it's kind of a flickering, which is why I assume the voltage is just too low to do anything.
We'll see what Sony's gonna tell us after they got the device for repair
This just happened to me. For my exp, we have this problem when we charge with the magnetic cable. Correct me if I am wrong.
So happy to see this topic, hoping that there is the fix guide in this, however ...
can anybody helps me ?
laufersteppenwolf said:
Well, bad news I guess... I tried whatever I could possibly think of, but the best I get is a steady red LED for some time, after that the LED turns off again and still no reaction at all (also while the LED is lit).
From what I can tell, it's most likely a battery issue, because when the red LED first lights up, it's kind of a flickering, which is why I assume the voltage is just too low to do anything.
We'll see what Sony's gonna tell us after they got the device for repair
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Hi,
please do inform us when u find any solution cause i'm facing similar issue after using it for 6-7 months
shardul.phatak said:
Hi,
please do inform us when u find any solution cause i'm facing similar issue after using it for 6-7 months
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Have you tried upgrading to 5.1.1 (23.4.A.0.546)? I had the same problem, where my z3c would only last an hour or so until the next sudden death and I'd have to wait a few days before being able to turn it on again (and will die after another hour).
Since I upgraded, it has only happened a couple times, and even then I could immediately turn it back on. While it's not a complete solution for me, at least my phone is usable now.
laufersteppenwolf said:
Well, bad news I guess... I tried whatever I could possibly think of, but the best I get is a steady red LED for some time, after that the LED turns off again and still no reaction at all (also while the LED is lit).
From what I can tell, it's most likely a battery issue, because when the red LED first lights up, it's kind of a flickering, which is why I assume the voltage is just too low to do anything.
We'll see what Sony's gonna tell us after they got the device for repair
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Well, This sudden death phenomenon happened to me as well this weekend, without any prior warning, since the phone is just 5 weeks old. I tried every possible fix suggested on the web, no response at all.
Now the phone has been shipped to a service centre in Athens, Greece, 350 km from where I live. Ought to have an update on phone;s status in approx. 10 days I was told. I keep my fingers crossed... From what I've read searching this matter during these past days, it seems more like a hardware issue (i.e. defective motherboard). If that's true, and since this phenomenon tends to grow steadily like an epidemic all around the globe (first SE Asia, now Europe) than it is a disgrace for SONY not to organize a recall...
Same issue here. Started few times and then hard brick. No flash mode, no fast boot, no charging... The girl from Sony support, after I've told her that i have an issue reported by many user on their support forums told me not to believe everything I see on the internet . I've been a Sony fan for many years but this denial of a manufacturing fault will make me reconsider...
This has been happening to me regularly now. The only way to get it to boot is to leave it on a charger for an hour or two. After an hour it will say it's charging again. Once it shows that it's charging, you can power it on. Pretty annoying, especially because when this happens to me, the battery will usually be over 90% full.
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bilboa1 said:
So I got the black screen of death issue and I think I solved it.
My internal nand was pretty full (got the warning several time). Eventually, the screen turned black one day and the phone wouldnt turn back on, even with
- reboot power/volume combo
- reset button behind the flap (30s+)
- charger connected/disconnected with same buttons
Leaving the phone there for a day or two (trying to boot it every now and then with the power button...), eventually it works/boots for some magical reason. Then it goes black again for a day or two, sometimes quickly, sometimes not. I did that a few times over several days...
Eventually when I got it to boot again I directly did a factory reset. This does not clean the internal sdcard. Things worked for a week straight (ie longer than usual) and bang, black screen again, and again and again...
So when I got it to boot once again (yes, that's PAINFUL to test all this) I did a factory reset + wipe of the internal sdcard.
Since that day, no more black screen of death.
I therefore suspect there's a bug with the nand controller when its nearly full or is full, or there's a bug plus bad nand hardware that causes it. I'm a little clueless on why it can eventually reboot.
I tested this 20, 30 times just to be certain, and it really seems related. So now I'm curious, any of you with the problem had the internal nand nearly full ? (or above 75% full at least). If so, try to boot the phone again a bit later and remove files from the sdcard just to see.
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My internal and external storage are both only half full and the sudden death bug continues to happen. Not sure it's related to storage. I've noticed that it only happens to me when the phone is sleeping with the screen off. I know sony did a lot of work to get the phone to use very little power when idle. Maybe it's related to the phone not being able to wake up? Does anyone know if this happens with non-stock ROMS as well?
penske said:
This has been happening to me regularly now. The only way to get it to boot is to leave it on a charger for an hour or two. After an hour it will say it's charging again. Once it shows that it's charging, you can power it on. Pretty annoying, especially because when this happens to me, the battery will usually be over 90% full.
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My internal and external storage are both only half full and the sudden death bug continues to happen. Not sure it's related to storage. I've noticed that it only happens to me when the phone is sleeping with the screen off. I know sony did a lot of work to get the phone to use very little power when idle. Maybe it's related to the phone not being able to wake up? Does anyone know if this happens with non-stock ROMS as well?
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Started happening to me a couple of weeks ago. Currently on SlimRom 4.4 and have been using this ROM for about a year now.
I was actually about to reflash a stock ROM until I saw this thread and now I don't know. Might have to call Sony.
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I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks
So my replacement Tilt isn't working either, so they're overnighting me a third one. In the meantime, I haven't sent back my original (RLoDed) Tilt, so I thought I'd play around with some of your theories.
skuzz said:
Another thought I had. After the tilt goes into red brick death mode, has anyone tried plugging it into power, battery installed, and then holding down power+camera(all the way) and then pushing in the reset button on the bottom? This may trigger it to go into flash mode - although I kinda doubt it'll work. Worth a shot! Might be able to reflash it back to life! Holding down power and camera while it boots is how you manually force it to get in the Red/Green/Blue firmware flash mode. If it let us do that much when the device bricked we might have a snowball's chance in hell of getting them working. I didn't think of trying it before I returned mine tho. D'oh!
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I didn't know what to try besides installing the battery and SIM card and trying to push down the power, camera, and stylus buttons (I knew I was doing it correctly, because I had to use this to return my second Tilt to factory specs). No response whatsoever! This thing is deader than a doornail. Except for the red LED, of course... that works REALLY well whenever it's plugged in.
sWuRv said:
I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks
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I appreciate your enthusiasm, but the only thing I can confirm is that this did NOT work on my RLoDed Tilt. Tried it several times in various ways. I think you just seriously lucked out!
As such, I'd also have to vote against stickying this... for now.
Best of luck, all... if not actually in fixing your RLoDed Tilts, then definitely in avoiding the $500 service fee if AT&T discovers we voided our warranties.
alright i will confirm this too....my phone was truely RLOD..... i did the same thing that these guys did just jammin the battery in and out and it "jump started the phone"
exact process used
Moto Razr charger
hold down power button
"bounce" battery on and off the contacts for the battery a good 100 times or so
green light apeared after the red light started to flicker a little bit..... tis as if you were giving the phone CPR or something
im not going to call this a fix all i know is that the phone was RLOD and now it is working....battery is at 54% right now and i will post back in a bit to see if it has risen at all....
no smell arising from device
running origional rom but have had other roms on there (alex's)
hard SPL still installed on device
SPB phone suite is the last software that was installed on the device
reg tweaks installed as well, the usual ones no sms, hsdpa enabled blah blah blah
that is about all i can provide....the unit was on the computer overnight charging....when i woke up it was RLOD....and i was sad....i did have the ATT store replace the battery for me as well dunno if that had anything to do with the issue...
in the time that it has taken me to write this the battery is now at 55% so it is charging.....on wall charger with MOTO razr charger
ok lets take a little closer look at what happened within the past little bit....
after gettin the device all up and running it was behaving very oddly.... it would go through multiple attempts to connect to the data network for various reasons....after showing that it was at 55% on the charger it went back down to 54%... i pulled it off the charger and took it into the other room to do something......within 10 min it was down to 46%....now having a data connection my blackberry connect should have a valid network connection....but it did not... not sure why...
the best that i can conclude is that it was trying to connect to so many things all at the same time that it exhausted its self that fast....
so the question is how many people out there that have RLOD are running the BB connect software on there devices and have made REG edits to the data connection time outs and the HSDPA mod availability
editing those settings together may confuse the device and make it think that it has to connect to too many things at one time....
just another thought process that i thought that i would throw out there...
here are some things on the my device that would use the DATA connection and automatically initiate the connection on the device rather than you opening a program forcing it to connect such as Internet explorer
GPS update
HTC home weather tab
SPB weather tab
Blackberry connect
SPB insight....RSS Reader
text messages going in and out....my phone sees quite a few of those
Edit/Delete Message
There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.
i had the same prob..took out the batterly wiped the four contact points on the phone (might of pushed them down or up) and put battery back in and worked..
I believe sWuRv was onto something. My Tilt had the RLOD today. I tried everything, even what he suggested above to no avail. So I called warranty and got my replacement on it's way, express shipping waved and all. So I decided to everything I could think of to try and get the thing back on so I might be able to back up my data again.
I started fooling with the battery, like sWuRv suggested but I moved it all around at 45 degrees or so pushing the power on button. I noticed while it was plugged to the USB with red light on that every now and then the red light would flash when I moved the battery so the contacts moved (while holding the battery at that 45 degrees). I started getting the light to go yellow but it would not stay. So I unplugged from the USB and kept trying it while pushing the power button. It eventually started and I was able to back up to my SD card. One thing I can tell you is that this process caused the phone to get hot and smell like electronics burning a little. There is definitely a power problem inside.
I have no idea how or why this worked but it did. I think I will still take the replacement even though I have to figure out how to swap my fancy invisible armor clear protector skin.
I'll try and update on whether this phone dies again or what until I get the new one.
rlod
I tried messing with the battery in a variety of ways for 30 minutes with no sucess. RLOD stayed solid.
RLOD
Holy shoot............After bouncing my battery up and down about 40 times my phone came to life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reseating the battery and/or sim/storage cards is hardly a revolutionary procedure. Its Cellphone 101.
you guys are LIFE SAVERS. I have been on this forum for about a month now and I finally found a reason to post. I haven't posted because I always find my answers. I just wanted to thank everyone, as I have been on the phone with Amazon.com (where i got my tilt), went into an AT&T store and was on the phone with HTC tech support ALL day trying to resolve my red light issue. Unbelievable that all I needed to do was give it some "battery CPR":
UGHHHH. Well i found reason to make post #2. The fix lasted less than 5 minutes.
this did not work for me
These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto
"Not the Mama", OR, NOT THE BATTERY
rotohammer said:
These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto
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I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.
cushcalc said:
I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.
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Very good, thanks for the insight!
I finished a call yesterday and then dropped my phone on to the pavement cos I was a bit drunk... Anyway this caused my phone to go from working fine (all be it with pants battery life) to just flashing the red light. Fixed it today. I tried the methods prescribed in this thread without success although I did not persevere for very long. I then put a spare battery in to the phonea and bingo the orange light comes on, phone boots up and it's now happilly charging. Note that I charged the old battery for several hours before trying the fix. Pity nobody seems to know what the problem actually is. I wish HTC would let us know....
sWuRv said:
There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.
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I had a similar problem with my old iPAQ hw6515, and a Motorola V3. The contacts on the battery don't spring forward as well on an older phone as they do when it was new. I shimmed the battery. I did this by taking a business card and holding it against the opposite side of the battery from the contacts I traced the battery's profile and cut it out. I scotch taped my new shim to that side of the battery, then re-inserted it. This forces the battery up against the contacts better and in many times resolves inoperable phones, failure to charge, and spontaneous rebooting issues.
-Jay
My replacement tilt (first one had a bad USB connector) died Sunday.
Had it on the charger, looked down, red LED. Back of phone was pretty
warm. Pulled the battery, SIM, memory card, slammed the battery onto the
battery contacts rapidly 5-6 times, put the SIM, memory, battery back into
it, and it charged up. Did a hard reset. Battery was 100% charged, I turned
it completely OFF when I went to bed. Got up, battery was 0% drained!
Red LED again. Did the rapid thingy with the battery again, orange charge
light came on.
Called at&t warranty replacement. When I told her I had a red LED, she didn't
even ask me to do anything else. She just asked for the IMIE number and shipped me another one.
Maybe the 3rd one will be the charm LOL.......
I'm beginning to think that HTC doesn't stand for "high tech computes" but
"high tech CRAP"....
Maybe you guys got the margin of error productions? I know its really unlikely that you could get them again after a replacement but it is possible, and it maybe your computer. What do you think could be making this things go crazy? Overly protective anti-virus, I know, I know but it could do things secretly and screw around like mine does and wont let me into sites I have been on before on the same app no changes . . . Well I hope you luck.
ok I just tried everything you guys said, but it didn't work for me
so as some of you have stated it must be the battery, so what I did is put it between my hands for about 1 minute and put it in and it worked again!
really weird... must be the heat?
well hope that helps the research
Cheers
Jay
Hello good people,
I've been searching the forums but i don't seem to be able to find a solution for my dead kaiser.
I'll explain the problem:
When i push the power button on my Kaiser, it start's booting the first part, displaying the "smart mobility" slogan by HTC, after a few seconds, some data appears in red, in the right lower corner of the screen, this is what is says:
R 1.27.12.11
G 22.45.88.07H
D 1.56.00.00
After displaying this for a while (about 1 min.) it goes to the Windows Mobile Splash Screen.
After displaying this for a few seconds (5 to 10 secs) it makes the "empty battery" sound and shuts down.
Can someone help me ?
*** And NO, the battery is NOT empty ... i've charged it over night, and the power light was green. ***
I've tried booting with and without SIM and MicroSD cards ... makes no difference.
ttenhag said:
..snip*** And NO, the battery is NOT empty ... i've charged it over night, and the power light was green. ***
I've tried booting with and without SIM and MicroSD cards ... makes no difference.
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Will it boot with the phone plugged in to power?
Bill
Yeah, try booting with the charger on. Chances are that your battery' life is out..
Reagdrs,
Carty..
I have had the same thing and wondered if it was the battery... except that sometimes it will stay on for about 2 minutes, sometimes half an hour... but most of the time as soon as it goes to the Today screen, I get the battery dead sound and then it turns off. I am going to try to use another battery to see if that makes a difference.
it's not the battery
I've tried with the power cord on the phone, it does 2 things:
1. The same thing as i said before
2. Doesn't boot at all, it halts on the screen where the red data shows up and stays there until you take the power cord off and the battery out.
It does one of these things, randomly.
I've also tried with another battery from my friends kaiser which works perfectly.
So i guess it's not the battery, anyone another idea what it could be?
Might be something wrong with the firmware or anything? problem is, i can't flash it if it doesn't boot can i ??
any ideas ?
Today i managed to get my hands on a brand new kaiser battery, my uncle has a brand new kaiser and i borrowed his battery.
His battery was full, i put it in my kaiser and tried booting, same problem as above.
I've tried with the power cord plugged into the phone, the charging led went on, and i tried booting, same as above.
Later i've tried with the USB cable connected to the phone and the computer, still the same.
I've also tried soft&hard resetting with the new battery, no succes.
So therefore, i believe it's not a battery or a power problem, it must be firmware corrupted or something of the hardware broke ?
Does anyone has any idea how i can try to re-flash this thing ? to find out if that might be the problem ?
It's not the battery. Could be a bad flash or something. Try to reflash it. Yes, it will reflash even though it won't "boot" as you say. Try to reflash and then report back. Remove the memory card for now.
Also, what Rom and SPL are you using?
Ur going to have to force it into the bootloader to flash it, no biggie. Just hold down the power and camera buttons, and hold the soft reset button with the stylus, untill you get the tri color boot screen. Then flash away! I would flash a stock rom until u can tell weather your problem is hardware related or not. If hardware related keep the stock rom and spl, and try to warrenty return it.
O.k., this just happened to my Brand New kaiser last night too, WTF! Was running fine when the low battery icon came up with half battery life n shut down, now it wont start up at home screen for more than 3 secs before it shuts down and says the battery is dead even while its plugged in! There's no way to reflash or hard reset since it doesn't stay on long enough to do so. Just ordered my replacement, but reading different forums, it seems many people have experienced this with Kaiser and most around the same time, again, WTF!!!
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O.k., this just happened to my Brand New kaiser last night too, WTF! Was running fine when the low battery icon came up with half battery life n shut down, now it wont start up at home screen for more than 3 secs before it shuts down and says the battery is dead even while its plugged in! There's no way to reflash or hard reset since it doesn't stay on long enough to do so. Just ordered my replacement, but reading different forums, it seems many people have experienced this with Kaiser and most around the same time, again, WTF!!!
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Does it power off while beeing in bootloader? You doesnt have to start the device up to get into bootloader you know. Try checking if it shuts down while beeing in bootloader, if its not just reflash. Another thing, what spl and rom are you guys having this problem using?
It's alive!!!
Finally got it to bootloader mode before it dies and reflashed and it seems to be running just fine now. Using spl ver.1 with schaps 4.30 wm 6 (although users running the stock rom had the same experience). Got the "smart chip not provisioned mm 2" message most likely from at&t killing my sim card from a reorder as they did when I Returned the Iphone which is a rediculous policy(policing); having to constantly contact at&t to update to a new sim. Still, it makes me wonder what caused this defunct in the first place, and if it'll happen again tomorrow or the next day. Reflashing and reinstalling cabs is a Real *****, especially for a pda where people use their device for business and gather a collection of missed calls and lost connections when the Os decides to randomly crash. As much as I dig htc's devices, it's kinda strange how HTC, with such a huge marketshare with pda's, is so quiet about updates or firmware fixes. Anyways, long live the only source for htc fixes, XDA!!
Mine is still completely in the state in which i got it.
Just the stock HTC Firmware, rom's and loaders
Okay, a little update.
How the hell can i flash this thing if it keeps on bugging me with the "Wrong vender ID" message when i try to flash it ?
I know, install HardSPL ... but how can i ? without a possibility to connect ActiveSync?, you'll have to start the device for that and run activesync, but i can't because it won't even boot.
Is there any other way of getting this device to allow me to flash without needing to boot it up fully.
I have no problems getting in to the Tri-Color bootloader, but no further.
When updating it gets to 1%, then my PC gives the message: "Wrong vender ID, please use your own device's update utility" and the phone stays at 1% till i rip out the battery.
ok guys I have the same problem with two of my kaiser's
I can power them up but in aproximately 1 minut goes off, no matter if the charger is plugged or not, it doesn't make a difference
I can put the phone in tri-color screen and stays there with no problem
and I can flash them with no problem because they are olipro already
but after flash them with anything still the same problem ???
so if anybody has a clue or maybe a rom to fix this would be great
thanks
best regards
linterna
One more thing. I have the same problem but mine when starts flashes Blue LED when was good hasn't. I Started few times and it works for 2-3 weeks and again. Best to do is to not use camera. Every time it happends i ise my camera and battery was middle-low. I think its some problem with camera. Many times it don't want to start up or saids that there is no memory for saving photo. Maybe i should flash rom from wersion without cameras.
im having the same problem, has anyone solved this?
Yeah solve . HTC as a kids toy .
Buy Nokia! Or SonyEricsson.
I won't buy smartphone ever again.
Does not boot to the OS
I have the similar problem...... My kaiser is dead not even booting with battery only (not plugged to the PC or external charger).
However when I plugged it to the power source it boots up and continue to the OS and boom (shuts off) in split of second.
I tried different flash and it propelry boots and got windows up and running when plugged to the PC with the old ATT test ROM which I got from the xda threads.
But with the latest roms it wont boot to the windows , it dies before that.
Anyone having idea what could resolve this.
any update on this? i am having the same problem. i tried a hard reset already with no success it goes to the splash screen and says "the device is clearing the storage. please wait" then pings and turns off
r 1.65.21.18
g 25.88.40.05h
d 3.57.00.00
my phone is completely stock and has never been unlocked or messed with. found an updated at&t rom, i ran it and none of the numbers change in the bootup, then goes to the splash screen and says again "the device is clearinng the storage. please wait" and then pings and turns off.
also i have been searching for the oilpro or jockeyw hard spl files on google and on here but have found nothing, the search function doesnt seem to be able to find much.
any help would be appreciative, thanks in advance
Don't mean to hijack but didn't want to make my own thread when this one was here. I'm not having exactly the same problem as everyone else but I am having a battery issue. It works fine and says it's charging when plugged in but when I unplug it the battery goes down fast (like 1-4 % a minute) and when it hits around 70%, it shuts off. Then whenever I turn it on, it immediately shuts down before the Today screen fully shows (like others are mentioning here). I have to plug it back into the charger to get it to turn on again.
Could this be a bad flash too..? I know I did one of the latest HardSPLs and tonight I just now updated to the latest stock AT&T ROM. But it can't be a flash because the night I got it (bought it used on eBay), I was playing with it not plugged in using Skype and it shut off on me. I didn't think much of it and had always had it plugged in since then.
I'm assuming I simply need a new battery.. I've emailed the original owner and she says she never had any problems with it like this.
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Don't mean to hijack but didn't want to make my own thread when this one was here. I'm not having exactly the same problem as everyone else but I am having a battery issue. It works fine and says it's charging when plugged in but when I unplug it the battery goes down fast (like 1-4 % a minute) and when it hits around 70%, it shuts off. Then whenever I turn it on, it immediately shuts down before the Today screen fully shows (like others are mentioning here). I have to plug it back into the charger to get it to turn on again.
Could this be a bad flash too..? I know I did one of the latest HardSPLs and tonight I just now updated to the latest stock AT&T ROM. But it can't be a flash because the night I got it (bought it used on eBay), I was playing with it not plugged in using Skype and it shut off on me. I didn't think much of it and had always had it plugged in since then.
I'm assuming I simply need a new battery.. I've emailed the original owner and she says she never had any problems with it like this.
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I've just started having the same problem as you. Very annoying. Mine phone is a year and a half old now, so i'm assuming the battery is coming to an end.
Charge battery, will last a while, but goes down to around 80-70% and then it says plug power in blah blah blah and dies. Then when you charge it, it stays on one or 2 bars for a bit and then jumps to 100% fully charged.
Saw a procedure to "reset" the battery. Supposedly have to take the battery out for a bit then plug in and charge fully over night with the phone OFF. None of this seemed to work for me... I'm due for an upgrade in January, so is it really worth paying for a new battery... hmmm
I let my phone battery die, and now I can't turn it on.
Usually I get a red light which goes when the battery is in if its charging.
Sometimes I get a red light even when the battery is in and its charging.
If I do a soft reset, sometimes I get a flashing red light on the sides but then nothing.
I managed to get it back briefly by doing all manner of hard resets and soft resets, and taking the battery out and putting it back in over and over again for about half an hour...
Then I left it charging for half an hour or so and carelessly allowed the battery to die again because I needed to take it with me somewhere - so the same thing has happened again.
I left it charging overnight but I'm not having any luck with it this morning... any help would be much appreciated.
yeah similar problem here. my phone warned me the battery was low... i ignored the warning and used it until it died completely. then it wouldn't turn on. it was late so i just plugged it into the wall charger that came with the phone. i dont think it charged cause in the morning it was still flat. if anything i think having it connected to the charger while not charging drained the last a few drops of juice out of it. had a number of confusing red lights coming up in different spots at different times.
i read on here some guy managed to charge it by getting 3 AA batteries and connecting them directly to the battery for a couple of minuets. i did this and managed to turn the phone on! hoooray!
it had 1% and died in less than a couple of minuets even though i had it on the charger. tried the 3 AA battery trick again but to no avail. i think my battery is dead.
i'm pretty certain i will need to get a new one. i hope you are able to get yours working without buying a new battery.
im really annoyed the Sony Erricson batteries work out to be close to $100 AU. i would prefer to get a legit one... but does anyone have any experience with unofficial batteries? are they any good?
Sorry you're in the same boat... Ericsson really should have made this phone so that it can run out of battery.
Interesting - tell me more about the 3 AA battery trick!
sounds like the cells in your battery isnt balancing hence its dying...think you'll need to buy another one / or at least try another one to make sure it is and not the phone...
Hmmm... I fiddled and pressed buttons and took out the charger and put it in, and then kept pressing the on button while I was doing something else...
Suddenly it made the click noise, but it's not back yet.
It seems to have crashed on the 'Sony Ericsson' start up screen with the green logo.
I don't know if it's charging or not, so I'm not sure whether to turn it off to try again (at the risk of losing the battery), or leave it to charge as it is before I turn it off and can't start it again....
At least it's progress
There are a couple vof threads with many solutions. Look for them, they are very useful.
Yeah I've found a few - Thanks... just nothing they mentioned has worked yet
I think the problem I have may be a slightly different now anyway...
Now, if I unplug it I can't turn it on, but if it's plugged into my computer cable I can get it (every time - after about 3 minutes) to go to the Sony Ericsson loading screen but no further (as if there is no hard reset file for it to load). I can do that by plugging it in, then doing a soft reset (which produces flashing lights on the side) then holding on until it clicks (usually trying that a few times). When it clicks the lights on the side flash and it looks like it charges for a second before the lights go off and its just hte loading screen. I left it for 5 minutes and it turned off completely. Nothing happens if it's plugged into the wall cable at all.
Have you any idea how I might be able be get something to load after the loading screen?... Or any thoughts as to whether you think it's likely to be charging when its on that screen?
Thanks
Hmm... It seems you have a software problem as well.
Here is what I would do: get another battery (fully charged) and try one of these hard reset methods:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437607
Something should work...
Sweet - I managed to get the hard reset screen to ask me the question about going back to factory defaults... after that the lights on the side are coming on to show its charging....
I guess there's a chance that when the battery is charged it'll have the juice to get past the loading screen... I hope anyway.
Wow this title gave me a heart attack almost
i thought someone is dead
plz i need help
hello good day plz i neesd to flash my htc p3600 and sony ericcson cybershot i need a software i can use to flash them plz help me any body that has an idea
just ordered a 1800mAh mugen power replacement battery. should be here in about a week my old SE k800i will be getting a bit of a work out in the mean time.
i think this break from unnecessary technology which I'm far too attached to will do me good. I'm far too materialistic.
hope you manage to get your battery going again!
Hello, I'm new to the forums, although I always keep an eye here to download a ROM or reading any tips, but the time has come that I really need help and can't find in any topic, even the ones that are similar to mine.
I own a note and I love it. I've been using the JellyBam ROM for a while now, never changed kernels etc.
that is... until yesterday, when I flashed the thor 0.28 kernel. Everything was nice but today I had to do some stuff outside home so I took my galaxy S player with me, but when I was driving it ran out of battery, so I put its SD card in my Note (N7000), but it didnt recognized my sd card, so i changed them back and drove without music and didnt touch my phone. this was 10AM, I guess.
when I stopped to get my hair cut I noticed my phone was rebooting. I had just left my house and the battery was already in 46%. this was about 10:30AM, so I took of the battery and replaced it. the phone started normally but when the main screen appeared it turned off. I thought it was only the display, so I pressed the on/off button but it didn't work, so I pressed a little longer and the phone started again. but then it turned off.
so I plugged it into the mobile car charger and it turned on normally. so I looked to the battery stats and it was showing 20% of battery left, but the moment I took the energy cable, the phone turned off.
long story short: until now my phone is only working when connected to its charger, although it's saying 100% charged :/
from 01PM, the time I arrived, 'til now I've wiped everything I could, changed kernels, changed ROMs but it refuses to work.
I notice something, though: while charging I can use it normally, except if I try to use the camera. When I click on the camera app it turns off, as like it was not connected to the charger.
I'm about to install the stock ICS ROM to see if the problem vanishes, but I doubt it. let's see...
hope anyone can help me :/
EDIT: I'm using the stock ICS without any problem for like 10 minutes now. But when I was configuring it for the first time it turned off once. this was 10 minutes ago. oh, and the camera is taking pictures and not turning the phone off... when connected to the charger. when I take pictures USING FLASH without charging at the same time, it turns the phone off. pictures without flash are taken normally. goddamn it D: what this could be?
I would just try another battery.
If the problem doesn't occure due to the system, it can only be a hardwareproblem.
So just ask a friend and put the battery of his/her phone into yours and check if the problem still exists.
reported for using a non gpl kernel.
Change it, if you wsnt to receive help at xda, or go ask in th*rs forums...
You are like high on weed going to cops(xda) to ask them about thc content (the kernel that shall not br named)... and then not expecting a scolding.
...well, mostly.
Started crashing sometimes weeks ago, but dunno if that's related. A few days ago it crashed completely on me, backlight on but no response to anything (OFF button included). Came home, battery seemed to drain, charged up just fine.
The next day - died again, some funky artefacts on the screen first, then same as the previous day except no backlight. Fixed when I came home that day too, started taking it apart and the LED started blinking red (= dead battery). Charged up fine; cleaned up my ROM/kernel too, updated etc., minimal app setup.
Next day again, fine in the morning, then a few crashes aaand dead. Took it apart completely, found out that I get *some* LED response if I unplug the battery and press down onto the motherboard.. Rebuilt it, booted up, crashed again. Seems to turn back on if I mess with it after a few hours, but battery charging is VERY slow (~50 percent in like 5 hours).
I'm going to try flashing stock when/if it comes back up, but I'm leaning towards hardware failure right now - either a damaged motherboard or bad battery.
Most likely getting a new phone anyway at this point, but I'd still be very thankful if anyone would know how to fix this and could share
Welp, that is indeed a very weird problem to me. Sadly I can't recommend anything
Sorry
my xperia sp need 5 hours until full charger:crying::crying::crying: and draining very fast, 2,5 hours only for browsing with data connection