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What is the Nexus One Warranty worth?

I am an Android Developer, but so far I've avoided rooting my phone or trying custom kernels, but lately I get the feeling I could learn so much more by really getting behind the curtain so to speak. I keep reading that if you root the phone you may void your warranty and no longer get over the air updates.
I'm on AT&T an paid full price for my Nexus One. I also got the phone engraved so I'm wondering what value if any the warranty actually has. Is it worth mucking around with custom kernels on the Nexus one, or should I get a cheaper dev phone like the G1 ?
Looking forward to hearing advice from other developers and what you've learned versus the risks involved.
Oh, Do you still get OTA updates as well?
I'm interested in hearing from people who decided the warranty was or was not work the risk. Looks pretty easy from what I can see.
Thanks all.

Just root it without unlocking the bootloader and you're good to go

J.L.C. said:
Just root it without unlocking the bootloader and you're good to go
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^this
root is fun and even better you can keep your warranty

Does using the technique of not unlocking the bootloader also mean you can run custom ROMs and/or recoveries? Or just gain root access to the stock ROM?

flybyme said:
^this
root is fun and even better you can keep your warranty
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You CAN root your Nexus One without losing your warrenty.
I had my bootloader Unlocked, then i got a issue with mounting SD cards.
I sent the phone to HTC Repair center and just got it back today with the issues gone and Bootloader locked
Unlocking your Nexus One bootloader does void your warrenty with HTC, but if you experience hardware issues, they dont care if you unlocked your bootloader !!
By unlocking your Bootloader you can put whatever ROM on your phone you like, doesn't have to be stock
About the OTA's.
Yes you will get them if you run Stock ROM's.
You will not be able to install them however since you are not using a stock recovery image.

Wow, didn't know they didn't care about unlocked bootloader as long as your problem is in hardware. My GPS doesn't work at all and I'd like to send in my phone for repairs but the bootloader is unlocked.How long did it take for you to get your phone back?
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WebghostDK said:
You CAN root your Nexus One without losing your warrenty.
I had my bootloader Unlocked, then i got a issue with mounting SD cards.
I sent the phone to HTC Repair center and just got it back today with the issues gone and Bootloader locked
Unlocking your Nexus One bootloader does void your warrenty with HTC, but if you experience hardware issues, they dont care if you unlocked your bootloader !!
By unlocking your Bootloader you can put whatever ROM on your phone you like, doesn't have to be stock
About the OTA's.
Yes you will get them if you run Stock ROM's.
You will not be able to install them however since you are not using a stock recovery image.
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See this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=718141
they arent always so nice haha

cmcm said:
Wow, didn't know they didn't care about unlocked bootloader as long as your problem is in hardware. My GPS doesn't work at all and I'd like to send in my phone for repairs but the bootloader is unlocked.How long did it take for you to get your phone back?
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I sent my phone from Denmark to UK, it took 1½ week quite fast

Can you point me to a link with instructions on how to do this?
I've found a few videos and articles that say this can be done, but reading to the end they all say seem to be closed or say not to do it.
Is it still possible to root the phone without unlocking the bootloader? I've searched google, but keep coming up with dead ends.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842

[Q] So Many Bricked Devices??

So, I'm getting my Nexus 6 tomorrow and the first thing I had planned on doing was unlocking the bootloader and rooting so I could eventually flash some ROMs and unencrypt it.
However, I'm a little hesitant now that there are so many people hard bricking their devices..
Should I just stay with stock unlocked to be safe? I've always been good flashing locked bootloader devices and rooting and I've never hard bricked a phone before.
Also, I had planned on keeping my phone unlocked.. Is there any good reason to lock it back? It seems most people hard bricking it due to re-locking the bootloader.
What do you guys think?
J

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3057363
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ForeverZ3RO said:
So, I'm getting my Nexus 6 tomorrow and the first thing I had planned on doing was unlocking the bootloader and rooting so I could eventually flash some ROMs and unencrypt it.
However, I'm a little hesitant now that there are so many people hard bricking their devices..
Should I just stay with stock unlocked to be safe? I've always been good flashing locked bootloader devices and rooting and I've never hard bricked a phone before.
Also, I had planned on keeping my phone unlocked.. Is there any good reason to lock it back? It seems most people hard bricking it due to re-locking the bootloader.
What do you guys think?
J
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Read, read and read some more and you'll be fine. The recent onslaught of bricks comes from Google not updating instructions and people reverting bootloaders. There are quite a few threads on this already, just give them a once over and you'll see what the issue is. Now that we know, it can be avoided. What can't be fixed yet is the brick.

ForeverZ3RO said:
So, I'm getting my Nexus 6 tomorrow and the first thing I had planned on doing was unlocking the bootloader and rooting so I could eventually flash some ROMs and unencrypt it.
However, I'm a little hesitant now that there are so many people hard bricking their devices..
Should I just stay with stock unlocked to be safe? I've always been good flashing locked bootloader devices and rooting and I've never hard bricked a phone before.
Also, I had planned on keeping my phone unlocked.. Is there any good reason to lock it back? It seems most people hard bricking it due to re-locking the bootloader.
What do you guys think?
J
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59506417&postcount=5

XT1095 US Hard Brick

Long story short but I tried to revert back to stock in order to take the MM ota update but this resulted in me downgrading my bootloader and this hard bricked my phone.
I am aware of "blankflash" that can fix hard bricked 2013 versions of this phone but apparently there are no blankflash files which can restore this phone.
To my knowledge there is no other way to fix a hard bricked moto x 2014 (I really want to be wrong about this and would love if someone could provide info on how to fix).
I tried to contact moto support for a replacement but my device is 2 weeks out of warranty so no dice they will not help me and want me to pay $125 for a repair.
Is there anything I can do? Or should I start looking for a new phone....

madkapitolist said:
Long story short but I tried to revert back to stock in order to take the MM ota update but this resulted in me downgrading my bootloader and this hard bricked my phone.
I am aware of "blankflash" that can fix hard bricked 2013 versions of this phone but apparently there are no blankflash files which can restore this phone.
To my knowledge there is no other way to fix a hard bricked moto x 2014 (I really want to be wrong about this and would love if someone could provide info on how to fix).
I tried to contact moto support for a replacement but my device is 2 weeks out of warranty so no dice they will not help me and want me to pay $125 for a repair.
Is there anything I can do? Or should I start looking for a new phone....
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Sorry, there is nothing you can do to fix a hard brick.
Sent from my XT1095 using Tapatalk

madkapitolist said:
Long story short but I tried to revert back to stock in order to take the MM ota update but this resulted in me downgrading my bootloader and this hard bricked my phone.
I am aware of "blankflash" that can fix hard bricked 2013 versions of this phone but apparently there are no blankflash files which can restore this phone.
To my knowledge there is no other way to fix a hard bricked moto x 2014 (I really want to be wrong about this and would love if someone could provide info on how to fix).
I tried to contact moto support for a replacement but my device is 2 weeks out of warranty so no dice they will not help me and want me to pay $125 for a repair.
Is there anything I can do? Or should I start looking for a new phone....
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Was your bootloader unlocked? Can you boot to the bootloader?

rsa 329 said:
Was your bootloader unlocked? Can you boot to the bootloader?
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Yes bootloader was unlocked, seems like the consensus is that its dead until moto releases the blankflash files for this phone. Oh well live and learn. I cannot boot into fastboot and adb does not detect the device.

madkapitolist said:
Yes bootloader was unlocked, seems like the consensus is that its dead until moto releases the blankflash files for this phone. Oh well live and learn. I cannot boot into fastboot and adb does not detect the device.
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I also have a pure edition XT1095 with an unlocked bootloader and reflashed to stock to take the Marshmallow OTA and bricked my phone. I used the Multi Tool V4.1 which flashed my phone from 5.1 to 4.2.2. It booted fine and started the OTA of either 5.0 or 5.1 which was when everything went to hell. I can't get to recovery mode and I'm pretty pissed. I've ordered a Nexus 6P and have put Motorola on my short list of companies I will no longer do business with as they have the drivers and utilities to fix the phone but do not release them. Yeah, I'm guessing it had to do with the bootloader not being able to go back to 4.2.2 and don't need to hear that. The point is that it is a non-subsidized pure edition phone and an OTA should not be able to hard brick the phone.

RobbieDowie said:
I also have a pure edition XT1095 with an unlocked bootloader and reflashed to stock to take the Marshmallow OTA and bricked my phone. I used the Multi Tool V4.1 which flashed my phone from 5.1 to 4.2.2. It booted fine and started the OTA of either 5.0 or 5.1 which was when everything went to hell. I can't get to recovery mode and I'm pretty pissed. I've ordered a Nexus 6P and have put Motorola on my short list of companies I will no longer do business with as they have the drivers and utilities to fix the phone but do not release them. Yeah, I'm guessing it had to do with the bootloader not being able to go back to 4.2.2 and don't need to hear that. The point is that it is a non-subsidized pure edition phone and an OTA should not be able to hard brick the phone.
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The xt1095 has a warranty, you can send it in for repair. As far as as downgrading, in the upgrade descriptions it clearly states you cannot downgrade to an earlier version. You ignored that message or didn't read it and flashed 4.4.4. That isn't motorola's fault. However the pure xt1095 does not lose it's warranty when you unlock the bootloader, so they will fix it if you contact them and send it in. They just don't give us the tools to fix it ourselves, but that does not mean you have no options.
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AGISCI said:
The xt1095 has a warranty, you can send it in for repair. As far as as downgrading, in the upgrade descriptions it clearly states you cannot downgrade to an earlier version. You ignored that message or didn't read it and flashed 4.4.4. That isn't motorola's fault. However the pure xt1095 does not lose it's warranty when you unlock the bootloader, so they will fix it if you contact them and send it in. They just don't give us the tools to fix it ourselves, but that does not mean you have no options.
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Seriously? First off, the phone is out of warranty. Secondly, I don't know what upgrade descriptions you're talking about. I didn't ignore anything. I used a tool I got from these forums that had no warning. This is an honest mistake I'll guarantee others will make and to suggest they are stupid is just rude. After it happened I guessed it was due to downgrading to 4.4.4 but by then it was too late. For the phone to be so fragile that you can brick it this way is ridiculous and unacceptable that there is a tool Motorola has that would fix it but they do not make available.
Thanks for the helpful feedback. I was trying to share but now see I was wasting my time.

You might want to join the conversation going on at reddit over here I think you can go back to 5.1 by flashing the whole 5.1 image via the bootloader (including erasing userdate and cache) - I say so because that is what I did but some people say it will not work and to be honest now I'm losing confidence in my memory.... Hope we could get more insight, or at least get the official 6.0 bootloader image from moto soon.

RobbieDowie said:
Seriously? First off, the phone is out of warranty. Secondly, I don't know what upgrade descriptions you're talking about. I didn't ignore anything. I used a tool I got from these forums that had no warning. This is an honest mistake I'll guarantee others will make and to suggest they are stupid is just rude. After it happened I guessed it was due to downgrading to 4.4.4 but by then it was too late. For the phone to be so fragile that you can brick it this way is ridiculous and unacceptable that there is a tool Motorola has that would fix it but they do not make available.
Thanks for the helpful feedback. I was trying to share but now see I was wasting my time.
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Well....apparently you haven't read much more in this forum, this downgrading brick is common and its often asked by the other. You cant downgrade from lollipop to kitkat. So, if you had read more deeper in this forum, you could prevent this hard brick. And many member forget that this is not nexus device, and yes flashing or upgrading will have risk of hard brick.
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bimasakti85 said:
Well....apparently you haven't read much more in this forum, this downgrading brick is common and its often asked by the other. You cant downgrade from lollipop to kitkat. So, if you had read more deeper in this forum, you could prevent this hard brick. And many member forget that this is not nexus device, and yes flashing or upgrading will have risk of hard brick.
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I actually knew downgrading was a bad idea and didn't intend on doing it. I used the MOTO_X_2014_PURE_MULTI_TOOLV4.1 which I had used in the past but didn't remember it was going to flash back to 4.2.2. The instructions on the page just say FLASH BACK TO TOTAL STOCK UNRROOTED ROM AND RECOVER-FULL-WIPE. It doesn't say anything about going to 4.2.2. When it said it was downgrading when I ran it I thought "oh, oh" but it was too late. I was trying to provide information in this thread because I hoped it would be helpful, e.g. DON'T USE THE MULTI_TOOLV4.1!. I specifically said "I'm guessing it had to do with the bootloader not being able to go back to 4.2.2 and don't need to hear that" and what do I get? "...You ignored that message or didn't read it..." I'm already pretty grumpy about my mistake and bricking my phone and to get this kind of lashing isn't appreciated.

Anyway to root LS991ZVC?

Been looking all over and i can not find anything, any directions how to root Ls991zvc?

Only chance of getting root is on ZV6. Anything above that, you're screwed.

De_Falt said:
Only chance of getting root is on ZV6. Anything above that, you're screwed.
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and i heard downgrading is not possible.

tgkobaljr said:
and i heard downgrading is not possible.
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It isn't (as far as I know), I am still on rooted ZV6. I'm gonna be honest with ya, it still blows.

I have been trying to search for a root access, without the risk of "brinking" my device. To me: there isn't a best, and a *safer way of rooting your device; at least not known to us. It's better to wait than to risk our devices to "root," that may could damage our devices.

Xx_Erik12_xX said:
I hifave been trying to search for a root access, without the risk of "brinking" my device. To me: there isn't a best, and a *safer way of rooting your device; at least not known to us. It's better to wait than to risk our devices to "root," that may could damage our devices.
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If ure on zvc u r out of luck for now. There is no method to roo mm without unlocked bl

Will i lose warranty upon unlocking my bootloader?

I don't want to lose my warranty, but i really want to install CM on my mi5. Not a fan miui.

faraz46 said:
I don't want to lose my warranty, but i really want to install CM on my mi5. Not a fan miui.
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Manifacturer warranty is not lost unlocking bootloader.
It's obvious that if you brick flashing something wrong.. warranty will not help you.

Fortinho said:
Manifacturer warranty is not lost unlocking bootloader.
It's obvious that if you brick flashing something wrong.. warranty will not help you.
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Thank you very much for clearing my doubts.