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Rooting question

I've just rooted using universal androot new beta version and its a permanent root. So now for installing CM7 our any other do I have to root again using long steps or is it okay to proceed?
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vishal18793 said:
I've just rooted using universal androot new beta version and its a permanent root. So now for installing CM7 our any other do I have to root again using long steps or is it okay to proceed?
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There are no long steps. Most of the roms keep you root after installing them, but just in case if you dont have root after installing a rom, just use Universal Androot because it's very easy and it's one click root(happens very fast).

I've already rooted using universal androot
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vishal18793 said:
I've just rooted using universal androot new beta version and its a permanent root. So now for installing CM7 our any other do I have to root again using long steps or is it okay to proceed?
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All of the AOSP based ROMs (like CM) give you root automatically.
The issue you have is that you need a custom recovery in order to install the ROMs. These custom recoveries (OpenRecovery and drivatives) will allow you to do all sorts of neat stuff.
So, no...you don't need to re-root once you install CM7.

Actually, how do you lose root?
It's happened a couple of times that I run Titanium backup and it tells me that I'm not rooted.
It's an easy fix. I just goto AOR and do it again.
But I'm just curious as to how I can get unrooted like that.

But do we need to root for open recovery to install?
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vishal18793 said:
But do we need to root for open recovery to install?
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No root is necessary on a milestone (may be different on droid).
You just need to flash the vulnerable recovery and the install OR.
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is that possible to instal ROM without rooting?LOL

http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...yo-based-cyanogenmod-6-on-motorola-milestone/
this is how u install a custom rom on the milestone
hit thnx

justandroiduser said:
is that possible to instal ROM without rooting?LOL
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On most phone, root is necessary to install custom or vulnerable recoveries.
On milestone, there is no need to do this as this step is taken care of by the SBF flashing in RSD.
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rrohanjs said:
http://www.addictivetips.com/mobile...yo-based-cyanogenmod-6-on-motorola-milestone/
this is how u install a custom rom on the milestone
hit thnx
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I dont know how good thyat guide is, but linking to an external tutorial is not going to make things easy if you need help here later.
Better use the one that is stickied in the dev section...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932196
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but tht thread isnt well explained .. i mean if point wise steps r given its so easy to follow ..
or better sum1 shud make a video .. end of all problems

rrohanjs said:
but tht thread isnt well explained .. i mean if point wise steps r given its so easy to follow ..
or better sum1 shud make a video .. end of all problems
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Maybe a video is easier. But i have been linking folks to that thread for a while and this is the first complaint i have heard. Good enough for hundreds of ppl...
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Yes a video will definitely help. maybe I'll do it after my exams.
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@caz666
You wrote that root isn't necessary to install custom rom but the threes says otherwise. Please have a look and tell me
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?=932196
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That link doesn't work.
Anyway, I remember that I did not have to root the phone.
The first step was applying the vulnerable sbf.
Then I was able to load androidiani openrecovery.
Once in open recovery, I could apply a ROM without root.
Heck, I think root is just an afterthought during this process.
Root is just another menu item in AOR.... the hard part was getting into AOR in the first place.
For whatever mysterious reason, I lost root a couple of times over the last couple of weeks.
CM6 didn't stop working. Titanium backup did stop working but it was nice enough to tell me that I was no longer rooted.
No big deal. I just went into AOR and rooted again.
Edit: No wonder I had deja vu... I kinda mentioned that last bit on page 1 already...

Yeah for some strange reason the link isn't working I'll try and fix it if possible
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How To Videos on the Sprint Galaxy S4! (08/10/13)

This has been done MANY times before.
I recently purchased the Galaxy S4 and I make 1080p video tutorials on how to unlock, root, install custom recovery, roms, and etc.
Here are some videos that I know will help a lot of people out. I put a LOT of time and effort into making the best videos possible. If you have any suggestions for videos to make, please let me know! I'll be doing videos on roms and other development stuff found in the threads.
ALL of my Galaxy S4 Videos can be found HERE,
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL16F7F948A9277141
The EASIEST WAY to Root the Galaxy S4! (STILL WORKS WITH MF9!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONzxfyTnWIY
How To Root the Galaxy S4 (OLD)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BoHSesWTP5U
How To Install and Update Custom Recovery
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiYSH64NpU8
How To Install CyanogenMod 10.1 on the Galaxy S4!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwEAi_Y7UrY
How To Manually Update the Sprint Galaxy S4 to MF9!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMNV2H-2GvA
Sprint Galaxy S4: Official MF9 OTA Update First Look and Review
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-h4avjwX3o
How To Update the Sprint Galaxy S4 Firmware to MF9!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90oDtNOsygM
(That's for if you're running CM10.1 and want the latest baseband and firmware bits.
How To Install ForceROM on the Galaxy S4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPi-pr5jtmI
How To Unroot and Flash the Galaxy S4 to Stock Android 4.2.2 MDC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD5CHlrPQJQ
How To Update your Galaxy S4 to MDL with Root
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw77X_rCtqY
As far as I'm aware, this is the only thread in the Galaxy S4 forums with "How To" videos all in one place.
There will be MANY more Galaxy S4 videos to come. I'm going to do my full review of ForceROM once I've had time to play with it and can do an honest review. I will be doing a video on how to flash it stock this week or next week. Plus many more rom videos, tips/tricks, and etc.

Mine... Because all of the kids are doing it these days.
Many more videos will be added soon!

Dude you rock
I love the 90s. Good times.

This should be a sticky as well as the other video.
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you can install ota's with custom recovery btw
its messing with anything on system that causes installs to fail

I'm assuming these methods are for MDC and not MDL correct?
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shabbypenguin said:
you can install ota's with custom recovery btw
its messing with anything on system that causes installs to fail
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I've always had it fail with custom recovery. And I don't usually uninstall system apps. I'll note that in the video though! Thanks.

wwjoshdew said:
I've always had it fail with custom recovery. And I don't usually uninstall system apps. I'll note that in the video though! Thanks.
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in the old days ota's used to wipe everything and reinstall the rom, thus removing root. since gingerbread all they use is patch files, thankfully too. could you imagine a 1.5GB "ota"? it checks the hash of all the files its going to be updating, if it needs to update modem and you have a diff modem then it will fail, if you removed an apk it needs it will fail etc.
its why cwm/oudhs will detect if teh su binary has been altered with permissions and /system/etc/install-recovery.sh as they tend to be teh results of otas

Thanks boy.!
Awsome i was waiting for this.! thanks dev.! great :highfive:

shabbypenguin said:
in the old days ota's used to wipe everything and reinstall the rom, thus removing root. since gingerbread all they use is patch files,...
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Am I understanding this correctly? So if we've rooted and installed a custom recovery but everything else is stock we can accept an OTA without breaking root?
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Just_s said:
Am I understanding this correctly? So if we've rooted and installed a custom recovery but everything else is stock we can accept an OTA without breaking root?
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normally id say yes, as teh custom recovery will detect root has been altered and restore it. with this new setuid stuff it is no longer the case :/

shabbypenguin said:
normally id say yes, as teh custom recovery will detect root has been altered and restore it. with this new setuid stuff it is no longer the case :/
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This freaking update is nagging me and won't go away. I was talking with @Unknownforce, and now I don't want to install it...

I flashed the Slim Rom and the annoying update went bye bye.

This is really great thread Josh. What do you recommend for a rom. I need wifi teather
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shabbypenguin said:
you can install ota's with custom recovery btw
its messing with anything on system that causes installs to fail
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Everytime I tried to flash the ota it failed at the flashing point. I'm thinking it was due to the kernal being changed in my root process. I used OUDHS recovery method. ... Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong which I might be.
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Really, you have done a great job. I have seen all of your videos, but I did not find anything, which is needed to change. Superb !!.. It helps many people who have a galaxy S4. Thanks a lot for sharing such a helpful thing.

ironromulas said:
Everytime I tried to flash the ota it failed at the flashing point. I'm thinking it was due to the kernal being changed in my root process. I used OUDHS recovery method. ... Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong which I might be.
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If you didn't remove the stock bloat then you'd need to throw the stock recovery back on.
Have already seen the ota fail with twrp and oudhs.
(That's if you really want the ota to work)
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kkrunner7777 said:
This is really great thread Josh. What do you recommend for a rom. I need wifi teather
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ForceROM has the working hotspot mod. I used it just yesterday. Plus it's debloated and pretty awesome!

ironromulas said:
Everytime I tried to flash the ota it failed at the flashing point. I'm thinking it was due to the kernal being changed in my root process. I used OUDHS recovery method. ... Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong which I might be.
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as i explained earlier, the only way a ota will pass while you use custom recovery to flash it, is normally if you have custom recovery and root and thats all. alter system in any way and you risk the ota not going. replacing the kernel is guaranteed way to make them fail, almost every ota ever has included a new kernel update.

Tahde said:
I'm assuming these methods are for MDC and not MDL correct?
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Forgive my ignorance but what is mdc and mdl?
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Root and custom recovery

Ok im new to the s4 and have been doing alot of reading. So let me get this right I can root and install custom recovery without using a pc ?
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JReeher said:
Ok im new to the s4 and have been doing alot of reading. So let me get this right I can root and install custom recovery without using a pc ?
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Just to be clear, this is the forum for the S4 Active which is a different phone than the regular S4. That said, it really depends on which version of the S4 Active you have:
If you have the AT&T version (i537), then you can root, but you cannot install custom recovery due to a locked bootloader (stupid AT&T). You can still install custom ROMs using SafeStrap, but you are limited to TouchWiz based ROMs.
If you have the International version (i9295), then you can root and install custom recovery (the bootloader is unlocked), so you can pretty much install whatever you want.
I hope this helps, check out the Development section of this forum for more information.

JReeher said:
Ok im new to the s4 and have been doing alot of reading. So let me get this right I can root and install custom recovery without using a pc ?
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Yeah my apologies I have the active and also the att version (dumb) but thanks for the reply
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Root 5.1.1 update not exactly sure how?

I've never had any hiccups rooting any galaxy always choosing chainfire method .
Just picked up s6 and updated to 5.1.1
As I'm looking around posts it's not telling me a lot about root options without any issues ..I see more about issues on 5.1.1 camera issues etc...after root and having to flash boot.bin ?
What is the current safest method to root the 5.1.1 update ,Is it still using chainfire 5.0.2 root
Last thing I want is problems .
A link and quick rundown would be awesome
Like i mentioned I've never felt the need ever to ask about rooting any galaxy s4 S5 etc.... except this time seems necessary
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Same boat
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Do you care about KNOX?
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I am having the same issue as OP. I don't know how he feels about it, but I don't care about KNOX! Help! Pingpong seemed the safest alternative after multiple attempts using ODIN always resulting in soft brick. Pinpong apparently isn't updated for the S6 even though I got the link in the T-mobile thread for the S6

jeffreylin_ said:
If you do care about KNOX:
Look up "engineer boatloader" on the forums. I have never used this method before, so beware. Fingerprint scanner might not work!
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I thought that method only gives you a temp root as it causes issues with calling and/or wifi, so you use it just to unlock then revert back to gain functionality?

aff219 said:
I thought that method only gives you a temp root as it causes issues with calling and/or wifi, so you use it just to unlock then revert back to gain functionality?
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The first method jeffrelyn_ posted is what you need if you don't care about Knox. Issues with calling were only when the method was first created, but has been patched for a while now so no issues, and it is a permanent root
The engineering bootloader is the only method that has a problem because the fingerprint reader does not function
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The whole process looks like a sh!t show. Which is why I'm just gonna stick with stock.
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jeffreylin_ said:
Alright, if you don't care about KNOX:
Get the correct version of TWRP for your device. Flash using ODIN. Might as well flash the latest bootloader and modem if you haven't done so already (flash entire firmware package if you can't find the modem/bootloader only).
Now, grab the latest Unikernel from the Unified Development forum. Flash using ODIN/TWRP, your choice (pick the right one!).
Download SuperSU from the Play Store. ??? Profit!
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If you do care about KNOX:
Look up "engineer boatloader" on the forums. I have never used this method before, so beware. Fingerprint scanner might not work!
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I already have the correct version of TWRP for my phone but I don't know how to go about flashing it with ODIN. I'm kind of new to Samsung and ODIN and I am kind of ignorant to this whole process, but I want to learn!!

So I just flash TWRP directly?
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I mean flash it to the phone using ODIN directly as I do not have root yet. Which I thought would make TWRP useless
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Justbwantd to add I rooted with unikernel tar like 5 days ago and all went fine .Finger scanner works too..
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Galaxy S5- Can I Flash A ROM With TWRP Instead Of Flashfire?

Hello, i'm new in this forum and i haven't flashed so many roms before.
in this tutorial:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g870aoc5-5-0-keeproot-t3083841
they use flashfire to install lollipop rooted rom into G870A devices.
but i have a problem, i followed the steps to receive flashfire beta on my device but i never got it, i asked in g+ page to someone to share me the apk containing flashfire beta (the version that is required to do this), but he said me i have to change the date of my phone to july 1st because the app does not open at all, and it is true, by changing the date i was able to open the app, but i;m not sure about using it because i thing it is not the right version and i thing i can damage my device.
Can i use twrp instead? or is it safe to use the apk he shared to me?
Thanks

Much to the dismay of almost everyone here Twrp will not work on our locked bootloader phone.
Give a read here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2969344
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You havd at&t s5 active ,at&t locked the bootloader thats why we can't use custom recovery like twrp cwm . if u r in 4.4.2 kitkat i think u can use safestrap recovery..that process will install 5.0 rooted lollipop .i use the same process to update my att s5 to lollipop ..download the file flash through flasfire..
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thanks! i'll ty that i hope it works.
but before trying this i, does anyone successfully installed the last flashfire beta? please would you share the apk, i would prefer using that since the tutorial looks very easy, im new using those kind of tools

I just used the latest beta to flash from rooted 4.4.4 to 5.0.1 Of3 without issue.
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my problem is that i were not able to receive beta, does the latest google play public release work?

https://mega.nz/#!RdgzgQJC!V8CjC6U-vlSJdGQHI3DGuH839XUjaZfv2iff7MFJbuA
Here is the link ...
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Thank you leoishwor10!!

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