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Change shuffle order?

Has anyone else noticed that with either Windows Media Player or the HTC Audio Manager, it will always use the same shuffle order? Doesn't this defeat the purpose? Anyone know how to get it to "reshuffle" with every play. I am getting tired of hearing my play lists in the same order everytime.

jgermuga said:
Has anyone else noticed that with either Windows Media Player or the HTC Audio Manager, it will always use the same shuffle order? Doesn't this defeat the purpose? Anyone know how to get it to "reshuffle" with every play. I am getting tired of hearing my play lists in the same order everytime.
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Amen, thought I was the only one who noticed this!

Yes, surprising isn't it. Even a using a search on all forums didn't turn up this same question. I think this is true for Wondows Media Player on all devices, or at least the one's I have owned. Would be nice is HTC could provide a shuffle option that actually shuffles with the Audio Manager. Perhaps they should call it "Reorder" instead of "Shuffle".

Just searched and this is the only thread I could find on this problem.
My media player doesn't actually play the library in folder order, but seems to shuffling only a few songs on the list.
Is playing them from the library the only option? - you can play only one song at a time when accessing the music folder with windows explorer.

to "reshuffle" have you tried turning off shuffle, selecting another track, playing it, then turn shuffle back on.

Thanks for the suggestion - yes I've tried that, but it just seems so hit and miss with the Windows media player and the shuffle play seems to repeat a few tracks too often.
I've now installed MortPlayer and it's working great, so I'm not going to bother with the WM player now.
Thanks.

firstbuddha said:
to "reshuffle" have you tried turning off shuffle, selecting another track, playing it, then turn shuffle back on.
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Yes, this is my half baked solution. I just scroll down and start a few songs later in the list as it is sorted via the playlist. It still does not "shuffle" though, just puts me at a different point in the (properly termed...) reordered playlist. If it's a short playlist though, you will figure out pretty quickly that the songs go in the same order every time, you just started at a different point.

In computing, the random doesn't exist, we can only approach it by simulating.
You won't never get a "real" shuffle. When you select this mode in WMP or HTC audio manager, it follows an algorithm, that's why you always hear songs in the same order with the same playlist. The best way is to change your playlist.
I hope this explanation is helpful and clear, and if somebody can give us more details on the subject, don't hesitate (I like learning more and more )

sarce39 said:
In computing, the random doesn't exist, we can only approach it by simulating.
You won't never get a "real" shuffle. When you select this mode in WMP or HTC audio manager, it follows an algorithm, that's why you always hear songs in the same order with the same playlist. The best way is to change your playlist.
I hope this explanation is helpful and clear, and if somebody can give us more details on the subject, don't hesitate (I like learning more and more )
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I hear what you saying regarding computers not being good at random, but I can tell you that this MortPlayer is doing a damn fine job of it.
I think that these workarounds with the playlist are a poor reflection on WM media player - I have about 1.5G in my music folder and MortPlayer can shuffle the lot without the need to first create a playlist.

I didn't say that you need to create a playlist. On the contrary, more the numbers of songs is high, more the order in which you will hear its is changing, because the probability of finding the song "m" on a sample "M" diminishes when you increase "M" ( "M " can be a playlist or 1.5 GB of songs)

We need a better mp3 player for android

I use my phone as a mp3 player alot but the software that came with android is very limited and does not give you enought options to use our phone as a fully funcional mp3 player. Like for example creating playlist, search songs by name or artist with the keyboard. etc.
I hope some developer is working on a better player...

You can do all of that you mentioned already. To add to a playlist long-press on a song and choose add to playlist and you can make a new one or add to an existing one. To search just slide out the keyboard and type it will return all results for artist, song, album, everything. Hope this helps

Geniusdog254 said:
You can do all of that you mentioned already. To add to a playlist long-press on a song and choose add to playlist and you can make a new one or add to an existing one. To search just slide out the keyboard and type it will return all results for artist, song, album, everything. Hope this helps
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thanks you right about everything. I just found something else I have every album in separate folders let say I would like to select just one folder to play that album only, is there any way to do that, because as far as I see the player looks for all the music files in the sd card and display them in the library together.
thanks

I don't think you can organize by folder but maybe try clicking album on the home page of the MP3 app? That will read all the ID3 tags of the MP3's and sort them by album to play. Unfortunately what sucks for me is a lot of my music files are .m4a from my iPhone which the G1 can play but I don't have album art or tags or anything and it blows because you can't add tags to them and I don't have the time to convert them to mp3. Oh well, hope this helps you!

i think we will see a lot more once paid apps come- coreplayer are working on an android version for one.

I just figure another issue, I create a folder with ringtones .mp3s and the player put them on the play list to This is crazy it should at least ask you if u want to add the new audio files to the play list. now I have 10sec ringtones playing on my playlist
I'll pay for a player with all the features that an audio player should have.

What folder are you putting your ringtones in?
I have my ringtones in a folder named 'ringtones', my notifications in a folder called 'notifications' and the media player doesn't pick any of them up.

One thing for sure, Shuffle blows for some odd reason. It's always the same damn order! The only way to get something different is to Shuffle -> Party Shuffle. This needs to be fixed.
Also, it would be nice if they added the fast search (like in contacts, dragging letters on the right) to the song list, as well as speed it up quite a bit.

I'm not impressed with the MP3 player. I'm hoping someone is working on one that is a little bit more iPhonish, as I like the looks/usability of that. S2P for WindowsMobile nailed it.

Is there something wrong with tunewiki? maybe that is more to your liking?

I like the double click headset to change tracks, single click to pause/resume. Although i'm not sure if this functionality would exist with A2DP? It could do with a few more features i'll admit, but it looks fine to me.

Need an Eqaulizer
nuff said.

Samsung Galaxy 4.0 Android MP3 Player.
Samsung calls this an MP3 player, but it is really a great Android phone -- without the phone. The form factor is great for carrying around. I find I'm using it much more than my iPad to access email, listen to podcasts, watch videos, and more. The Gingerbread Android OS is snappy and easy to use. With Skype and Wifi, you get voice/video connectivity.

Samsung Galaxy Player 50

Agreed. The stock app never allows me to view my playlist like the iPod does.
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Check out MKZIplayer.
Great for video and music

If you use a custom rom you can download "PlayerPro". Best MP3 Player.
(Or try "Apollo", its included in Cyanogenmod from FreeXperia)

[Q] Required: Song changing App

Hi,
Everytime i need to change a song , i have to open xperia out of pouch and change, Sometimes this feels irritating
Can there be a app which changes songs in media player upon clicking call recieve button in the wired earphone....?

Not sure why your X plays songs one at a time... is it your settings that are set to play one at a time? Every player I used plays them one after another, in the order you specify or shuffle or according to playlist or whatever... I can't say I ever had to physically advance songs. I listen to mine over the bluetooth and the phone is in my bag, would feel pretty peeved if I had to dig into my bag every time I need to get to the next song, especially if I am driving. So check your settings.

I think he wants to use the handsfree/headset button to as a fastforward button so he can skip songs.
I think someone put up a mortscript of that for the HTC media player, but I'm not sure where it's posted.

In that case there is always an HTC remote handsfree. Something like this: http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-RC-E100-3-5...066569?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item27b4901749

Thanks harveydent, enigma1nz for your reply,
Sorry for my bad english,
harveydent descibed it right, I want an app which forwards songs through earphone,
not sure whether HTC earphone works fine for xperia x1a windowsmediaplayer/pocketpcplayer/S2P player

dissapointing walkman

hey guys, just wanna know if im the only one feeling this way
i personally think walkman feels like an unfinished music player
no folder playing, no repeat option, no sorting playlist.
the infinte view and light effects are good, and thats the thing that makes still using it.
if we use other music player, will the light effect still play?

Press on the album art to show repeat option
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I've found the Walkman player to have the BEST quality sound.

if u click on album art then u find repeat button,shuffle button,favorate,button and fb like button
and if u wany to sort ur playlist then in now playing click on menu then play queue thats it sort it

javagreen said:
I've found the Walkman player to have the BEST quality sound.
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i'm totally agree with you :good:

thanks for all the reply.
i agree sony walkman has the best sound. the reason im not trying to use other msic player is because usually they have their own equalizer, and not all support the phone's stock sound effect.
manually sorting is way to tedious, i was thinking of having a sort button that ask how will u sort it, by artist name, by song title etc.

pavapizza said:
thanks for all the reply.
i agree sony walkman has the best sound. the reason im not trying to use other msic player is because usually they have their own equalizer, and not all support the phone's stock sound effect.
manually sorting is way to tedious, i was thinking of having a sort button that ask how will u sort it, by artist name, by song title etc.
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Well, u just click the My Music tab, there already got some default sorting: Songs, Album, Artists and SensMe channels....

sss2sssss said:
Well, u just click the My Music tab, there already got some default sorting: Songs, Album, Artists and SensMe channels....
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no, i mean in my playlist.
when i first create a playlist, i tick the songs alphabetically, but when the playlist is created, the song list was jumbled up, not like the way i added it 1st time. what i mean is, i cannot find a sort button to sort the music list in my playlist. there is only a shuffle button, and in the dropdown menu, edit playlist there is no auto sort, i'll have to manually sort it, n its kind of tedious.
thats why i hope there will be an update for walkman that can play folder so i dont need to create another playlist whatsoever.

pavapizza said:
no, i mean in my playlist.
when i first create a playlist, i tick the songs alphabetically, but when the playlist is created, the song list was jumbled up, not like the way i added it 1st time. what i mean is, i cannot find a sort button to sort the music list in my playlist. there is only a shuffle button, and in the dropdown menu, edit playlist there is no auto sort, i'll have to manually sort it, n its kind of tedious.
thats why i hope there will be an update for walkman that can play folder so i dont need to create another playlist whatsoever.
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Well this things already got long time ago , and frankly speak nobody complain abt it (in fact I got use xperia mini , sola before )
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sss2sssss said:
Well this things already got long time ago , and frankly speak nobody complain abt it (in fact I got use xperia mini , sola before )
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well, dunno, maybe im too demanding
but im so used to having a folder playing option on my previous custom music player (on galaxy gio) so im a bit annoyed its not a standard on all music player

Hi people, I Am very dissapointed from Walkman for these two reasons: No folder choosing and no genre choosing for every mood that you are in a moment. Ihave Power metal folders, Rap, Drum'n'bass, Classic and when open Walkman its like one big chaos. What I'm do for that?
First make a new Playlist with name of wanted genre, after that I'm use other player with folder play option and put all folder in desired playlist. And after 5 min of work the chaos in Walkman is ignored and choose to play only that playlist with currend mood.
P. S. Sorry for my english, I am selflerner in third world country.

I'm not sure what you mean by "put all folder in desired playlist", but for me sorting genres as playlists worked. No need to copy any files anywhere. Just create a new playlist and add songs. I suggest doing it on computer using Sony's Media go software. It'll be a lot faster.
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Jump to next song without delay

Hi
I got the HTC One and I am using the default music player right now. I have a few albums in which every song continues where the previous one stopped. When I listen to them on Winamp (PC) it sounds like I am listening to one track instead of 10 separated songs. But on my HTC One there is a little delay between each songs and it also kinda fades in and out. Is there a way to disable this?
And I have another problem. I don't know why this happens, but whenever I copy a new song to my phone that doesn't has a album cover it automatically uses a picture of me as the album cover. I have no idea why this happens, because the picture it uses is not even in the music folder. My HTC One is updating the pictures, but I have also some unknown artists on my phone and I fear that my picture will stay on them.

TheRealGreenVirus said:
Hi
I got the HTC One and I am using the default music player right now. I have a few albums in which every song continues where the previous one stopped. When I listen to them on Winamp (PC) it sounds like I am listening to one track instead of 10 separated songs. But on my HTC One there is a little delay between each songs and it also kinda fades in and out. Is there a way to disable this?
And I have another problem. I don't know why this happens, but whenever I copy a new song to my phone that doesn't has a album cover it automatically uses a picture of me as the album cover. I have no idea why this happens, because the picture it uses is not even in the music folder. My HTC One is updating the pictures, but I have also some unknown artists on my phone and I fear that my picture will stay on them.
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try any other app like PowerAmp