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I am planning to return my Tab S 8.4 today. Though the screen looks stellar and the build quality is great I just can not get over the terrible battery life in normal use (IE not limited just to movies with a darker theme) or the performance issues that this pair of Samsung processors has. I get so much noticeable lag and hesitation that it is just to annoying for a product like this. I really wish they had put in a SD 801 or 805 so that performance was stable and smooth across the board. Battery life if you do anything that uses much light colors is just terrible. The screen drains the battery so fast with web use for example. Reviews back this up. Testing with a movie on loop can have great results up to 12 hours if it is a dark enough movie but testing with a light background with web use on review benchmarks shows that time drop down to 7 hours. Unfortunately I don't do much movie watching on a tablet so it is a particular issue for me. I had it side by side with my ipad mini retina doing the same work and it was draining twice as fast as the iPad. I really wish they had not felt the need to go so thin and instead gave us a revolution in battery performance.
I can only imagine what this device might have been like if they released it with a SD 805 SoC and 10mm thickness with doubled battery life.
I've been using a black background on my amoled screens from S2, S4 and now S5. Dark themes in any apps that have them. On the Tab S I'm also trying night mode in Next Browser. Battery seems good so far and should be a little better with root/custom rom's.
I'm pretty damn picky and it's fast enough for me.
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I've been using a black background on my amoled screens from S2, S4 and now S5. Dark themes in any apps that have them. On the Tab S I'm also trying night mode in Next Browser. Battery seems good so far and should be a little better with root/custom rom's.
I'm pretty damn picky and it's fast enough for me.
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Yeah, I really don't WANT to return it. I love that screen. Maybe I should try Next...In chrome most things are white and it is quite a drain. I also use black backgrounds. Primarily B/W portraits.
I am also disappointed in the performance of the device. It seems to stutter and lag constantly, even when not under heavy load. Maybe the L release (if it comes out for the tablet) will fix that, but I'm not holding my breath.
It seems like on a device coming out mid-2014, there should be no UI stutters.
I should also note that I'm using Nova Launcher so I can't speak much for lag on the Touchwiz Launcher.
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I am planning to return my Tab S 8.4 today. Though the screen looks stellar and the build quality is great I just can not get over the terrible battery life in normal use (IE not limited just to movies with a darker theme) or the performance issues that this pair of Samsung processors has. I get so much noticeable lag and hesitation that it is just to annoying for a product like this. I really wish they had put in a SD 801 or 805 so that performance was stable and smooth across the board. Battery life if you do anything that uses much light colors is just terrible. The screen drains the battery so fast with web use for example. Reviews back this up. Testing with a movie on loop can have great results up to 12 hours if it is a dark enough movie but testing with a light background with web use on review benchmarks shows that time drop down to 7 hours. Unfortunately I don't do much movie watching on a tablet so it is a particular issue for me. I had it side by side with my ipad mini retina doing the same work and it was draining twice as fast as the iPad. I really wish they had not felt the need to go so thin and instead gave us a revolution in battery performance.
I can only imagine what this device might have been like if they released it with a SD 805 SoC and 10mm thickness with doubled battery life.
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Since you prefer battery life to size, you might consider the Tab pro 8.4 Sam rez, slightly thicker, no amoled, SD 800, and really good battery life for surfing.
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Since you prefer battery life to size, you might consider the Tab pro 8.4 Sam rez, slightly thicker, no amoled, SD 800, and really good battery life for surfing.
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I actually have 3 of those in the house, my 2 sons and my wife. It is a nice device but not one that would cause me to sell my iPad Min Retina and switch. I was hoping the display and build of the Tab S would be that device. I think I may give it a second shot, try to live on the dark side as much as I can. Now that we have root I may be able to fix a couple issues.
I replaced my Tab Pro 10.1 for the Tab S 10.5. Speed and battery life on my part is much better on the Tab S than on the Tab Pro. Also, Wifi reception is much more better. My only complaint is with KitKat and not Samsung. They changed the permission setting and because of than, I cannot copy file from the internal memory to my SDCard with RootExplorer or save it directly on the SD Card with Dolphin Broswer.
For what its worth I am running Nova Launcher and have never experienced any lag whatsoever. Yeah battery life isn't great but that is never as advertised.
Wait for Freeza or someone to crank out a nice ROM for us and what lag there may be will improve. His ROM made my 8.4 Pro much faster.
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I replaced my Tab Pro 10.1 for the Tab S 10.5. Speed and battery life on my part is much better on the Tab S than on the Tab Pro. Also, Wifi reception is much more better. My only complaint is with KitKat and not Samsung. They changed the permission setting and because of than, I cannot copy file from the internal memory to my SDCard with RootExplorer or save it directly on the SD Card with Dolphin Broswer.
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If you use the Samsung My Files you can do that. And now that there is Root for your tablet you can always remove that restriction right now all together.
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If you use the Samsung My Files you can do that. And now that there is Root for your tablet you can always remove that restriction right now all together.
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Yes, I discovered that yesterday. But still a pain that I have to use My Files app while Root Explorer could be doing it without any problem. I'm holding off root for the moment. I rooted my Note 2 but I don't have any reasons for the moment to root my Tab S.
I have the Tab 8.4 S and have zero issues with lag or battery and I would consider myself a heavy user. Playing games to watching HD movies while surfing the web and the battery does just fine.
Now... I do have Nova installed and did so as soon as I got the device onlined since I customize the hell out of my devices so I never experienced the TouchWiz launcher. I also have Clean Master and Battery Doctor installed. The combination of these three has made this my main device not only for home and hobby but also my work.
Touchwiz is actually Korean for "pretty eye candy that makes your tablet go slow". I swear.
I sold my Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 and bought a Galaxy Tab S 8.4 a couple says ago. Battery and performance are much better on Tab S IMO. This thing will be a beast after flashing a mod or two.
My only real gripe with this tablet is not how fast the battery drains but how long it takes to charge. This has to be the slowest charging electronic device I've ever owned. Wonder why?
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My only real gripe with this tablet is not how fast the battery drains but how long it takes to charge. This has to be the slowest charging electronic device I've ever owned. Wonder why?
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Are you using the stock charger? I never bothered with it from the get go and I am unsure how many volts it is.
I picked up a Rocketfish 10.2v from BB months ago at no cost using my Rewards. Priceless!
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Are you using the stock charger? I never bothered with it from the get go and I am unsure how many volts it is.
I picked up a Rocketfish 10.2v from BB months ago at no cost using my Rewards. Priceless!
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The stock charger is 5v 2amps. Not sure I would want to risk any higher.
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The stock charger is 5v 2amps. Not sure I would want to risk any higher.
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Be careful increasing the volts but the more amps the better. Though high end devices have power controllers so it doesn't matter how much over the specs you go the recharge will always be the same.
My two cents
I have owned every galaxy from vibrant to S4. I owned an N10 (currently have a 2013 N7 and N5). I owned a Note 2. For what its worth, even with the extra pixels to push, I don't think this is a hardware issue. Touchwiz has always just been a poorly coded behemoth of a skin. With the exception of the Note 2 (which TW seemed to be very smooth on)...it has always had frame stutters and an ass ton of processes eating up cycles. Whenever I flashed a stripped down...or even better an actual AOSP (I love slim) ROM, performance on these devices have been flawless.
Full disclosure... my 10.5 S is charging right now and I have not even fired it up yet. But I will immediately root and debloat the Eff out of this thing. I agree that Sammy's tablet update cycle is ridiculous...and that a snapdragon should have been the cpu by default, but que cera cera.
Once I fire it up...I will report back.
So far here are my 8.4 gripes after about 24 hours of ownership:
Battery life - I charged it to 100% prior to use and was a bit shocked that I lost 10% just doing the setup and installing my apps.
Pentile screen - Part of this is my fault as I did not realize the 8.4 is pentile and I thought both the 10.5 and 8.4 were Super Amoled Plus. There is a bit of a softness to the 8.4 screen that seems unusual considering its size and PPI. In some ways I find the Nexus 7 screen a bit better and more realistic. I own a LG G3 and the QHD display on it is fantastic, and I had thought the 8.4 would have a little of that magic but it is not in the same league at all. I wonder what the real PPI is on the 8.4 considering it is pentile, I gather it is less than the Nexus 7. This may be a dealbreaker for me, I am going to use it tonight and do a little side by side with my Nexus 7 and Note 10.1 2014.
That said Netflix looks great on this device, the best I have seen so I wonder if the app does some sort of edge sharpening. When I watch 1080p content streamed to the 8.4 find it is not as sharp as it should be and really no better than the Note 10.1.
Going to give it another couple of days and see if it grows on me.
Came across this comparison, Note 4 crushes the competition.
Note 4 was found to have superior:
Display
Battery
Camera
Storage
RAM
I really think with the 16MP Camera, Samsung has finally created the best smartphone camera.
Check it out.
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Display.- Yes, definitely.
Battery.- I have heard the iphone 6+ has better SOT from most reviews. Not sure, though.
Camera.- iPhone has better low light shots, Samsung has better day light shots.
Storage.- Well... you can get a 128GB iphone, but that will depend on what you want to waste, for the same price, yes, you get more space with the note
RAM.- Android uses more ram than iOS, I'd say that iphone performs smoother due to optimization.
I've only looked into half a dozen reviews, and I'm not going to deny that the iPhone 6+ has some strengths (battery life). These phones are both excellent so I don't really see a clear-cut victor. Maybe that will change over time with new software.
I've been using the camera non-stop all week because I've been at a wedding in Sonoma. I'm not a photographer by a long shot and have used the camera on "auto" with HDR "on." I took this one this morning at a vinyard. They asked me to e-mail it to then to use on their website.
Ultra low light is nothing to write home about. Low light can be impressive.
Here's another good pic...
The Note 4's camera is good. And as a point-and-shoot which is the way 90% of people will use it. If I can get shots like this, anyone can.
At the end of the day, we have amazing choices of phones right now especially if you consider the Droid Turbo (I know it's Verizon only, but rumored variants coming to other carriers).
The differences between them have definitely narrowed and it comes down to what's most important to the customer. MAC/iOS people gonna iPhone, Android fanatics gonna Nexus... and the rest are up for grabs.
The Note 4 is definitely an amazing phone. Built in multi-window, floating apps, and the stylus are freaking amazing for a power user like myself. I can't believe I waited this long to jump on board.
The iPhone's better low light photos and marginally better battery life (if that's the case) is irrelevant to the features exclusive to the Note 4 line. (Apple isn't even an option for me even so.)
You just can't really go wrong if you're getting a top of the line phone for what you want. Sure there are some sacrifices to weigh, but there's never going to be a perfect phone for everyone.
To borrow from Nintendo, NOW WE'RE PLAYING WITH POWER!
Note 4 has the advantage of the external battery. You can buy Samsung battery pack with the charger and stop worrying about battery life. Now about ram ios doesn't require the same as Android to run smoothly but if you want to have over 3-4 tabs on safari without refreshing then you have a problem. Look at the new Ipad air with 2gb ram
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Just remembered, Note 4 also has the MicroSD card slot. That's a huge difference in them.
I just switched to a Note 4 from an iPhone 6 Plus after 2.5 months. Here's my feedback:
Display - Note 4 is definitely better.
Battery - My iPhone lasted much longer than Note 4 but that may be because I have been installing apps/widgets left and right. We'll see once things settle.
Camera - Note 4 is slightly better for low-light pictures.
Storage - I had a 64GB iPhone and that was good for me. With Note 4, I will need to buy a card.
RAM - Note 4 may have 3GB of RAM (vs. 1GB on iPhone) but my iPhone ran much smoother than Note 4. I get occasional freeze and lag with Note 4.
I have booth Note 4, iPhone 6 plus and a Nexus 5.
Camera. Slighty better but much slower than the iPhone. On the other hand is speed essensial for my kind of usage.
Smoothness. Note 4 ain't close to Nexus and iPhone. I was a bit shocked when I noticed that not very much had happened since the S5, my chinese MX4 is butter compared if you counting all small lags. I flashed latest firmware two days ago and it feels a little bit better.
Storage. Has 64 on the iPhone and it's more than I need right now.
Display. Really good but I haven't used it outdoor on a sunny beach yet
Battery. Not as good as I hoped for. I have exactly the same apps and usage on all androids and it's very ok but not stunning. So far LG G2 and OnePlus roles my SOT with hours. I have a feeling the iPhone is slightly better. You can't really count on tests like GSM arena, they don't have my 84 apps installed.
Im using both for 2.5 months now.
Screen=note 4 is better but both great
Camera= i dont see any speed difference. Daylight note 4 better. In low light 6 plus abit better. Both very close.
Video=quality for note 4 Ois performance better on 6 plus.
Performance: note 4 is faster on pretty much every 3rd party app. 6 plus faster on system apps(gallery, phone etc)
Smoothness is pretty much same for me i dont realy see big difference. Only recents app has 0.5 delay on note 4(happens sometimes)
6 plus definetly needs 2gb ram safari is headache with 1gb. 2-3 tabs then reload is suck. Multitasking is better on note 4 too. But both good.
Battery in my usage note 4 is better.
From the design iPhone 6 plus loses to the Note 4. Apple did absolutely nothing for the iPhone 6 Plus other than stretching the iPhone 6. (or shrinking the iPad Air, depending on how you look at it) The phone is so slippery and uncomfortable even for occasional one-handed operation. I know people will augment the grips with cases, but that still does not help with its underlying design incompetence. Some of these iSheep would argue how inferior plastic is compared to aluminum used for soda cans, and would insist that cases should not be a consideration when discussing phone designs. How the times have changed.. I totally share Erica Griffin's experience with iPhone 6 Plus' ergonomics. (minus the girl jeans part, lol) Compare that with the Note 4, it looks abundantly clear who has more knowledge and experience in manufacturing phablets.
The rest of stuff is more about iOS v. Android to me, and I know which way I roll. There is just no competition. Though it does help to make a decision that iPhone 6 Plus lags and Safari refreshes tabs more than ever before thanks to the puny 1 GB of RAM Apple deliberately put in for planned obsolescence.
Note 4 has very good screen and battery life for me, but regarding smoothness Samsung is miles behind my Nexus 5 or even 4. Storage is impressive with SD card, but then again I didn't have problems with space on Nexus either. It is very good hardware with very bad soft. Things changed drastically with CM12 tough, now it is far smoother than Nexus 5.
I do not understand all the fuss with photos, none of the phones has good enough camera to replace proper camera. You can take a photo when needed.
If u don't mind rooting, Note 4 is great piece of hardware. If you prefer not to do it you might be better off with Nexus 6.
The best camera in the world should be the one you carrying around daily
I think and hope that the Lollipop for the Note is going to give it a bit less bumpy road. Some people care for it and some don't, same as with everything else in the world. If the Note can give me 50-60 fps and less hiccup I'd love the ride.
Sent from a 6 Plus.
Thoughts on upgrading from the S6.
I have been an iPhone user since the first iPhone but started using the Galaxy S6 soon after its release. I had wanted to use android for sometime but I was always disappointed by the cameras — until the S6. To me the S6 camera was so good that it has been hard to justify switching back. However, the battery life of the S6 was/is just below my tolerance level and I was hoping for a slightly larger screen (I was using an iPhone 6+). I was getting about 3:15 screen on time and in general 20 hrs max of total charge time regardless of anything I tried. I figured the slight increase of the Note 5 was enough to move to the other side of my tolerance point and so I ordered one from AT&T. I've noticed a number of subtle improvements that were noticeable and important to me so I figured I would share these in case one of you is considering an upgrade. So here are some random thoughts/observations:
Cruft: I was concerned enough about the AT&T junk on the S6 I had moved to an unlocked version, but that led to a hit in battery life (slight). I ordered the AT&T note 5 so I could get it sooner and hit the right radios (or whatever). On the AT&T S6 there was a lot of stuff I could not even disable, which pissed me off. After rooting I could disable this crap, but I knew I would not be able to root the Note 5 (at least not for now). Fortunately, the vast majority of the bloatware can easily be disabled. The only thing I could not disable is AT&T remote support. Overall this was an improvement.
Battery life: I have had the note for a few days. I saw some outlandish battery life on an early reddit post (7 hrs SOT). I have seen the battery life go from ~20 hrs total charge time w/ 3:15 max screen on time, on the S6, to ~24 hrs total charge time w/4:40 max screen on time. I would say this is a tad higher than just added capacity, but certainly in that range. Overall, this is about what I had hoped for when making the switch so I am happy, but I have not noticed what some people have experienced.
Details: I use the Google keyboard and on the S6 there was this constant switch input method icon that would pop up in the upper left part of the status bar. And while I could not prove it I swore this was causing some jank lag when starting up chrome. The reason I felt this way is that when I removed all keyboards but the Google one that lag went away. Regardless, on the Note 5 this alert isn't there. I can use my Google keyboard in peace. Also, I do not notice lag starting up Chrome.
When I shot video with the S6 I was getting some pretty bad OIS wobble, but that is MUCH improved here. This could just be a batch thing, but I noticed it on both of my previous S6s. I still think it is a batch thing however.
Both of my previous S6s had the iscocell camera sensor. My Note 5 has a sony.
The screen is the same but blown up. However, I notice that I get a wider range of viewing angles before the screen goes noticeably green. Overall I like using the screen on the Note 5 better, even though it is the same panel I imagine. Another thing is that I think the resolution of the screen makes more of a difference at this size.
I was worried that the phone would be too big. However, it feels great in the hand. I really like the size and I think the form factor helps the usability a great deal. The only thing I plan to do is add a dbrand skin (when the Note 5 versions come out) to the back to make it less slippery.
I actually find the S-Pen useful, especially the screen off write feature.
RAM/Lag: RAM usage has been pretty consistent as far as what is earmarked for system/apps/free and the amount cached. I am getting (in GB) ~1.6 reserved for system, ~0.47 for apps and ~1.6 ‘free.’ When you factor in cached things that has been (in GB) ~2 system, 0.88 apps and 0.73 free. The total RAM is actually 3.663 GB not 4, but this isn’t too surprising and consistent with the S6.
Overall I noticed random lags all the time on the S6, even with early usage of the phone. Everything so far on the Note 5 for me has been super smooth. I am even using a theme from the store. I am very happy with whatever improvements Samsung has made to their 5.1.1 build.
Audio: There is a new UHQ upscalling feature. Using decent headphones (akg 545) I notice a pretty dramatic improvement in audio quality. Specifically, separation and soundstage improves. This is a nice and unexpected feature.
I would say if you were on the fence in wanting to upgrade to the Note 5 from the S6 you will be very happy you did. However, I wouldn’t if you are happy with your S6. For me it came down to the fact that I was just slightly too frustrated with the battery life and lag and was hopping to get a bigger screen. In the end I am very happy with the jump.
I'm upgrading from an S6 Edge to the Note 5. I think the S Pen offers more functionality and value than the Edge features. I'll be getting my phone in the mail today so the things you mentioned makes me very happy. Thank you
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so ram issue seems to be fixed? i am frustrated with my s6. i play spotify over bluetooth and launch maps and the phone just crawls
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so ram issue seems to be fixed? i am frustrated with my s6. i play spotify over bluetooth and launch maps and the phone just crawls
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So far so good, but I am three days in. On my s6 I was always very low on ram, specifically when you examined cached processes and I was getting apps closing all the time. It didn't matter if I used a debloated rom or not. I still have yet to think about rebooting the phone. I don't know how much of the 'fix' is software optimizations and how much is throwing an extra GB of RAM at the prob, but I am happy. You might consider trying the note5 rom port floating around on your s6. If it is true Samsung optimizations that should help.
If you want to use S Pen Stylus than you can upgrade but if S Pen stylus is not the major preference, I suggest you don't and stay on S6 as there is no major difference!
I already upgraded s6 edge to note 5 and I am very happy with it..
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If you want to use S Pen Stylus than you can upgrade but if S Pen stylus is not the major preference, I suggest you don't and stay on S6 as there is no major difference!
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Sigma, you are certainly right that most people don't need to upgrade. However, there are other clear demonstrable changes to the Note5 that might be of interest to some S6 users beyond the pen. For instance displaymate documents quite clearly that the Note5 screen is different than the S6 in some ways that will appeal to people like me who are overly anal about screens:
http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_Note5_ShootOut_1.htm
Further, there are some minor software improvements like better RAM management etc. Again, this may only be of interest to a few, but it is overly trivializing to say there is no difference beyond a pen.
Would you say that the HTC 10 is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the HTC 10 exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Have you used it as the apps and their data build up? Is the camera still snappy, do the apps still launch quickly?
Just slightly faster than my old LG G3 which I still use at home to save the unremovable battery
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So much better than my old AT&T Galaxy Note Edge. Runs cooler also, can actually record in 4K without overheating.
It is faster than my 2014 Moto X with a Snapdragon 801 and 2GB of RAM.
However there are little things that are actually faster in my old Moto X:
- The recent apps list takes a while to show in the HTC 10 I have no idea why. Even disabling animations it still takes longer than on my 2yo phone
- The voice recognition sometimes takes longer on the HTC 10!
But overrall it is faster
It is a little more speed than my HTC One A9
Nice article!! Thanks for sharing with us
sometimes the notification was too full will lead phone a little bit lag ,hope on android n will improve
Much much faster than my old Droid Turbo 2
It is the fastest one and it will remain the fastest until the new HTC Nexus gets released
It was pretty fast on stock, but after rooting, debloating, its very very fast, awesome in fact
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Way faster then my g4
The HTC 10 is the faster phone I ever had. It is much faster than my Nexus 6P and has zero lag. I absolutely love it.
just coming from galaxy s6 with a custom rom (like now with leedroid rom), I think the Galaxy s6 is more speedy device for everyday use
I'm coming from a Nexus 6P rooted which was blazing quick however this phone as with the M7 and M9 (skipped the M8) and i have to say that the HTC with the newer version of sense (M7 onwards) certainly holds it's own, even at stock it's fast, couple that with a decent custom rom and optimize it, they're probably the most responsive phones i've ever used.
I really haven't had any performance issues to speak of whatsoever with these devices.
The only time you'll see a slow down is when you open the application manager and attempt to scroll down before it's actually loaded, which is the same on most android devices.
I have my gripes with HTC, mainly the battery and glare on photo's, or the paint on the gun metal one (my one, chips easily) some of the software could be better, like the camera and other stock apps, but overall i think they're moving more in the right direction than any other label.
Samsung seem to think that touchwiz is superb, it's got better but jesus it's a crippling launcher and the whole eco system following it.
I've moved away from HTC too many times, i'll be sticking with them from now on.
I'll bet that the new Nexus is by far and away the quickest device there has been up until now, bare in mind that the last time HTC did a nexus device it was a masterpiece.
Long live HTC (with better batteries
The HTC One series was always fast and for some reason my original HTC M7 was twice as fast as my Samsung Note 2 when it came to LTE signal. I was on AT&T at the time but I like T-Mobiles unlimited everything plan with 7gigs of tethering a month. When T-Mobile advertised that they doubled their LTE coverage and made it faster, I can't argue at all. My HTC 10 has only showed the "4G" icon once since launch day. Combine blazing fast signal with Sense (or Nova Prime) with a Sense toggle and slow never enters the discussion!
Blazing fast and smooth
Anyone coming directly from the HTC one m8? How do they compare in terms of speed and smoothness?
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Badelhas said:
Anyone coming directly from the HTC one m8? How do they compare in terms of speed and smoothness?
Cheers
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I still have my M8 along with my current 10. Both are S-Off, rooted, etc and running their respective version of ViperRom. 10 is a lot faster...though I do miss my IR blaster...lol...which is a main reason I keep it (I'll also use it as my GPS/music device in my car mount hotspotted to my 10.
Faster not only in look and feel but in benchmarks...and although its an outdated benchmark...quadrant scores on my M8 are always in the 28-32000 range. 10 is always in the 43-46,000 range. I find that simple benchmark usually correlates to how I feel my phone is running at the time.
Interesting note though....Xposed KILLS my 10's performance (quadrant scores drop to anywhere between 18,000 when "sluggish" to only 30,000 when it seems to be running okay but slower than without it). to where I had to uninstall it. It has no effect on my M8 in performance.
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I still have my M8 along with my current 10. Both are S-Off, rooted, etc and running their respective version of ViperRom. 10 is a lot faster...though I do miss my IR blaster...lol...which is a main reason I keep it (I'll also use it as my GPS/music device in my car mount hotspotted to my 10.
Faster not only in look and feel but in benchmarks...and although its an outdated benchmark...quadrant scores on my M8 are always in the 28-32000 range. 10 is always in the 43-46,000 range. I find that simple benchmark usually correlates to how I feel my phone is running at the time.
Interesting note though....Xposed KILLS my 10's performance (quadrant scores drop to anywhere between 18,000 when "sluggish" to only 30,000 when it seems to be running okay but slower than without it). to where I had to uninstall it. It has no effect on my M8 in performance.
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So in everyday real world use you notice the speed difference? I ask this because the M8 on Marshmallow is so smooth already, I don't get how it can get even faster.
Would you say that the Moto G4 Plus is "fast" in day-to-day use? A higher rating indicates that you think the Moto G4 Plus exhibits fantastic performance. Like, is it as fast as your tears when you watch The Titanic?
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Not terrible but it does get laggy at times. Even the 4gb ram model.
4gb model lags tooo !!?
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Not terrible but it does get laggy at times. Even the 4gb ram model.
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I have the 16GB / 2GB RAM, runs fine if not running anything aggressive like games.
I have the Moto G4 (non-plus) 32gb / 2gb ram model and can say that it is quick. Comparing to LG V10, S5 and S6, graphic intensive games are noticeably slower, but everyday use such as web browsing, app switching, email, video are all very quick. (no noticeable difference from the V10 or the S6 but fater than the S5 to me). I came from a S4 running Cyanogen that was quick and can say this phone beats the pants off of it. I don't do a any gaming really on my phone, I can say it play pokemon Go just fine however.
Overall Speed
I've got the G4 Plus with 64 Gb and 4 Gb RAM. I do have apps that are very slow in loading or sometimes even responding. I will get the Android dialog box asking me to "wait" or "close" the app. I had tried the classic "reset" and clearing, etc. No help. Definitely MUCH slower than my old HTC One M9. I don't do any games on it.
I came from a nexus 6 64GB (to xt1625), and considering the difference in price I'm quite happy with it's speed as a daily driver. I'm not running any games though.
The Moto G4 Plus, however, seems different compared to previous Moto Gs. It takes a lot of cues from the Moto G3, but also adds into the mix some new bits. Although the faster hardware does make the Moto G4 Plus run hotter compared to the Moto G3. But that is only in particular cases, such as when you are playing games for over half an hour. And in such cases, almost all phones with similar hardware show similar behaviour.
Only lag i've noticed was browsing the ridiculously ad heavy xda forums. Adaware took care of that.
Runs cool, no errors.
Not a game player.
I have the G4 Plus 32gb 2Gb RAM. I woumd say it's OK. For gaming is not very good either, heavy games tend to drop frames very often or straight up lag, in day to day usage it is fast, but it cannot handle a lot of apps open at the same time (I think it's a matter of lack of OS optimization).
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I own the G4 Plus 2GB model. I would say that performance is decent. It does day-to-day jobs quicly, but not lag-free.
I ran a comparison with the Moto Z Play (SD 625 3GB) a few days ago, and the difference is directly noticable. The X Play runs smooth, the G4 Plus does not. It's not that the G4 Plus stutters all the time, but there is room for improvement.
However, if you take the low price point of the G4 Plus into consideration, it does not disappoint.
Having 3gb/32gb model
Runs perfectly. Multitasking at it's best.
Switching between ongoing Google Maps Navigation, Play Music (or Amazon Music/Spotify) and a Browser is definitely slow and a pain while driving (2GB Model).
Looking forward to switch to OnePlus's next offering this year because I need more power.
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Having 3gb/32gb model
Runs perfectly. Multitasking at it's best.
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Same experience here on Marshmallow. Had it a few months, always fast, never had any lag, slowdowns, force closes, etc. Runs perfect, couldn't ask for better. I did upgrade to N and it wasn't quite as smooth. Went back to Marshmallow and all is perfect again.
Some little lags here and there, but in general really good performance.