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[Q] Jumping ship from the Nexus 4

I have been hyped for this phone since I heard about it and ive been extremely tempted to get rid of my nexus 4 and grab this phone, the camera issues seem to be over exagerated from what i can see and some say that the nexus cam is bad and I thought it was okay. Any thoughts from anyone using this phone coming from the nexus 4? The main draw for me is battery life, Im lucky if I can get 15 hours of battery life total, with maybe 1-2 hours of screen on time..

If you're OK with the nexus 4 and its lack of LTE, stick with that. This camera has been frustrating me with its lack of exposure control/focus. I'd wait to see how they're going to improve the camera before ditching the N4. If had both and I think the only reason the Moto X wins is Verizon's LTE coverage.
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I never had the Nexus 4, and I'm certainly no camera junkie, but I love this phone. I came from the Galaxy Nexus, so any phone is an upgrade, really. I was happy with the gnex camera, and I'm even more happy with the Moto X camera.

Get the Moto x and never look back. My n4 is now an mp3 player. Moto x battery life is insane and the phone is much smoother than the n4.
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My main concern is battery life, what were you guys getting on the n4 vs the x?

I can double screen on time versus my nexus 4
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I'm a N4 owner and just like you, my main concern is battery life.
I haven't yet decided whether I should go for the Moto X or wait for the next Nexus and see what's coming up.
Tough decision

Im very much leaning towards getting one on sprint tomorrow if best buy is going to pricematch amazon when I go to get rid of my old iphone tomorrow. I just have one last question, does the moto x have a notification LED or is it purely done with the active notifications?

It is done through active notifications no LED
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Battery life on the Moto X is beyond good. 6 hrs screen time. A bit less if on LTE instead of wifi, but still way better than the Nexus 4

gunnyman said:
Battery life on the Moto X is beyond good. 6 hrs screen time. A bit less if on LTE instead of wifi, but still way better than the Nexus 4
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I have a N4 and my TMO Moto X is getting delivered today, I already took the plunge and so should you

gunnyman said:
Battery life on the Moto X is beyond good. 6 hrs screen time. A bit less if on LTE instead of wifi, but still way better than the Nexus 4
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I haven't been getting that at all. Yesterday I was at 13 hours on battery 2 hours of screen time with 3% left. It is almost exactly the same as my Nexus 4. I don't play games or watch videos either, pretty much just texting, hangouts, whatsapp, Reddit.

I had to go pick one up today, So far I think this thing is amazing, I love the feel of it and I actually like the vibration on it. If this battery is as good as everyone says ill be thrilled.

I'm a n4 owner thinking of going to moto x too, for the battery life and better optimization and amoled screen non pentile.

Just pulled the trigger on eBay for 495.00 with a case and protector. The moto website kept placing holds on my credit card but not putting the purchase through so I gave up on Motorola selling it to me. My n4 is going to the wife and she is a happy camper to be switching from her nexus s. Looking forward to checking out this device soon

Someone convince me to skip the Nexus 5

I have a N5 ordered, to be shipped Dec 3.
With shipping, the 32gb comes to $460 CAD. I currently have a N4 16gb that can be sold for $250 I'm guessing.
Since I've been running Rastakat 4.4 on the N4 with ART enabled, it feels really smooth and the battery life also seems improved - almost as much as the N5 battery life estimates.
I do love a nice screen and wouldn't mind the extra pixels on the N5 and having a touch thinner device.
Am I alone in this?

You are not alone
I am seriously considering getting the N5. Since the N4 is close to its 18 month support, I am probably going to upgrade.

Why don't you save the money and buy the next Nexus phone instead? N5 is nice but not worth the $200 upgrade. I also updated my N4 to 4.4 with ART and it is so smooth.
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If you have the extra money I see no reason not to upgrade. Me personally, I'm gonna wait till next year when they start releasing 64-bit phones, until then I'm fine with my N4

I don't play much videos on the phone, I don't use my Nexus 4 for the sole purpose of web browsing, I don't play many games that require any fancy screen, my Nexus 4 isn't broken.
And I don't feel the $200 upgrade is worth it.
These points sure convinced me when I had to cancel my pre-order.

I'm staying with the n4. The biggest upgrade on the n5 was LTE but the n4 has LTE in Canada (you quoted Canadian prices so I'm assuming you are in Canada)
I'm either getting the next nexus or a n5 when google clears them out next fall
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I want it to but to me it is essentially the same device. Look at how buttery smooth the nexus 4 is now in its current state. The biggest killer to me was the fact that the nexus 5 has only a 2300 mah battery. I'm 100% positive if the nexus 5 had also had a 3000 mah battery like the Lg g2, it would have been a guaranteed purchase. As of now, there's really not much we are missing on IMHO. And updates will definitely be here to stay for a while. I hope the nexus 6 does everything right, or that a device comes out in 2014 that meets my requirements. I'm not sure if i want to use a device that does not give me the stock android ui's experience.
If you sell your devicae for 250$ and get the nexus 5, it's only 200$ you're spending that that doesn't seem too bad off, if i could fine someone to buy my nexus 4 (in clean condition, has had a cover as well as screen protector since day of purchase) then i would more than be willing to sell my nexus 4 in favor for a nexus 5. But i can't be bothered searching for a buyer, that's the only reason i'm not doing so. Haha!

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I want it to but to me it is essentially the same device. Look at how buttery smooth the nexus 4 is now in its current state. The biggest killer to me was the fact that the nexus 5 has only a 2300 mah battery. I'm 100% positive if the nexus 5 had also had a 3000 mah battery like the Lg g2, it would have been a guaranteed purchase. As of now, there's really not much we are missing on IMHO. And updates will definitely be here to stay for a while. I hope the nexus 6 does everything right, or that a device comes out in 2014 that meets my requirements. I'm not sure if i want to use a device that does not give me the stock android ui's experience.
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I agree. I still have my Nexus 4 and do not feel N5 is much better. Unfortunately I need Wifi calling at home so I finally bought an LG G2 for $450 from eBay(almost brand new with a manufacturing date of less than 2 months) That is about the same price as a 32GB N5 but with much more. For pure android experience, I have enough from N7, N4, and Nook HD+ on CM 10.1. For Wifi calling, taking pictures, and traveling, LG G2 meets my needs much better due to the camera and larger battery. I wish I could sell my N4 for $250. My local price is down to $150-$200 due to too many people selling it... I might just keep it as a backup phone or test platform.

I also thought about upgrading..but with a 2014 car payment I think I'll skip it.
Running 4.4 and its real nice and smooth.
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In the nexus 5 forum I'm seeing terrible battery stats compared to n4. Guys are posting as low as 3hrs max screen time, much less than I get on lte. With art I doubt you'll constantly notice a difference between this and the 5.
I will upgrade for 4K recording like note 3, Flex screen or 1440/2160P screen, 3gb ram, and cpu that can beat A7x.
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Got one for my daughter as she was on my old iPhone 4. I used it for a couple of days first. In day to day usage, I can't see any difference tbh. Honestly, wait till N6 so you feel the benefit of the upgrade. Plus the camera (while taking better pictures) is slow as molasses. It's just not that compelling an upgrade and build quality is not nearly the same, it feels bit Samsung-ish...
It's not a bad phone at all, but it's just not that big a jump from N4.
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Nexus 5 is still a 'meh' upgrade. The spec bump is nice but it could, no, should've been better. Especially the battery, that part is a big turn off. Design wise, though fragile, Nexus 4 still looks sexier.
A lot of interesting things are gonna happen in 2014, I'd wait till mid 2014 to see what to upgrade to.
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I wanted the n5 solely for the camera and 32gb storage. I'm debating on if I should upgrade. I kept my n4 in near perfect condition so I can get 200+ for it. But I'm still not sure if I want to spend basically $225, which is a good deal imo, but I also like hoarding my money
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It's your money, buy it if you want, if not don't buy it.

I always try and come up with reasons what I would change in my current phone/gadget and see how the phone I am considering fares with the new needs.
So if I were to look at the N4 i'd change:
- Battery life
- Camera
- Slightly bigger screen
- Louder speaker
- Louder ear piece speaker
- More space (32gb)
So speed wise its great. It's smooth and I doubt I need a processor bump that much. I dont need LTE.
So lets see how the N5 stacks up:
- Battery - marginally better. Or maybe even not.
- Camera - sure it's better in theory. But reading reviews makes me think that I will be changing something that is horrible to something that is simply isn't very good.
- Screen seems to be a big improvement, but again viewing angles seem to have been a bit meh
- Speaker on the N5 is actually quiter than the one in N4, so a big no no
- Earpiece speaker on the N5 doesnt seem to be any better than in the N4, only maybe there is no N4 static.
- N5 sold where I am from come only in 16gb versions, so...
So following logic and not the simple desire of owning a new gadget, I will be skipping the N5. It simply isnt the phone that will make me replace my N4

Depends on what you expect to use your N5. I personally will stay with N4 until it dies

Personally, I wait for the N6. The N5 is nice and has stunning specs, but it lacks the 'wow-factor'. Nothing wows me on that phone. Yeh, the screen is nice and the SoC is a beast, but still, it lacks something special. Something unique.

One of my friends bought the N5 and I could use it for some time. My first opinion was that it is not a great upgrade for me. My N4 is still a great phone. Its smoth, quick, no lags and I can run every app that I need.
Unless the build a better battery which a big improvement I wont buy a new Phone.
For me it´s not worth the 200+ $ but its your desicion.

I have a N4 and had the N5 for a week. I decided to return it because the new email app has a bug which doesn't allow anyone to use Exchange email - endless sync loop which doesn't push new messages and kills the battery. I personally couldn't get Exchange email on my phone and that was a deal breaker. Take a look and you'll see numerous threads about it and not much of a response from Google.

Just bought a new house, wife's going crazy buying furniture, shopping for the wife's luxury SUV, and our first kid is due in less than 2 months.
I'll survive without an upgrade this year.
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Worth getting Moto X at this point?

So I currently own a S4 on Verizon. I've been wanting the X and my dad said he'd buy my S4 and I found someone with a brand new Moto X 16 gb for $300. I really love the design, nexus like look, and special features of the X. I've played with one at best buy an it is really fast. I'm just worried about a new one coming out soon. I know there will always be new technology but since this has been out for a few months, I'm skeptical. Also the 16gb worries me. I think I've read you're left with 11gb new. I just feel I'm going backwards lol
So I figured I'd ask the users of Moto Xs and see what you guys think. Not really asking if its better than the S4, just if its smart or not to get one at this point. It actually won't cost me anything an I'd actually make some money from selling my dads current S3.
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The trend for Apple and Samsung has been to release a new phone every year (so we should officially hear about the Galaxy S5 in March)
Considering the Moto X hit USA Carrier shelves starting in the tail end of August, if Moto follows that "new release every year" trend, then you're not even halfway through the X's shelf life yet. (only about 4 months of 12).
So if you're just worried about "timing" and you like the phone, then get it... otherwise consider....
Coming from a Galaxy S4, consider the smaller screen. Can your eyes adjust? Non-Removable battery (but the X has better life than my VZW GS4), Camera differences (at first GS4 was noticeably better, but with the recent updates, the X's camera matches the GS4's outdoor and good light abilities, it still lags in low light a little), no removable memory slot (so your MP3's, pix, videos have to take up space in the X's main memory).
Out of the box, a 16gig demo X I had for a while had more memory/storage available than my 16gig GS4 (11gig vs 9). I would still opt for the 32gig model X due to lack of removable Micro-SD slot if you want to keep stuff locally on your phone. That being said, I have friends who got 16gig models, haven't filled them up, and are perfectly happy. Me, I have 7 gig of music on my phone and take lots of pictures of my son (who just turned 5).
The X is my daily driver. I get phones free for my job and for a while via the VCC (don't ask) for personal use. (full list of my phones is -> HERE) The X was the first phone *I purchased* since I got my Moto E815 back in 2006. After using a carrier supplied 16gig Demo X for two months, I purchased the Dev Edition X for Verizon (full price) in early November, and its been my daily driver since. If you look at my phone list, and consider an X (first the demo and now my Dev X) has been on my personal line since early September when I originally got the demo X, you should get an idea of how much I like this phone.

I lived with a 16gb Nexus 4 for a year and unless you have a large music collection, keep many movies on your device or download many 1gb+ games then you will be fine with 16gb. I hovered around 5gb left while keeping one or two full backups as I was flashing roms alot on the N4, that said I was deleting stuff on a regular basis to keep memory free.
If you plan on rooting I would personally recommend the Developer Edition, unlocking and gaining root is very simple and you retain your full Motorola warranty even after unlocking. It is also 32gb, selling the S3 & S4 you should be close to it not costing you anything.

Thank you guys a lot. Very nice info. Yeah, timing is a good reason I was hesitant to pull the trigger. But knowing its still not half way through is nice to know.
Smaller screen, I believe I can adjust. I didn't have any issues when I played with it in best buy. Now I'm sure I'll realize it more as I use it more but I think it'll be okay. Its more knowing I'm going from 1080p to 720, but I know its not a huge difference an really only noticeable if you set the devices next to one another. I don't store anything on my phone. All music is through Google music. Though I keep a couple playlists of about 100 songs each stored on phone through Google music, but not a huge deal since I have unlimited data. I also never change out batteries so the removal one isn't a deal breaker.
Lastly I Dont bother rooting my phones anymore cause I always end up tinkering too much lol so I just want a solid, fast device. I'm just tired of Samsung's slow UI cover. Plus I hear so much praise on the X with its features that I want to try. Just worry downgrading in specs but I know performance is just as good as the S4. Main thing is the screen I guess.
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The colors on the Moto X are better imo as well as many other people then the S4. As far as specs just remember this might be the first time the software and hardware have been trully optimized for Android, when that's done there is no need to use more processor cores just like Apple has been doing with I-phones.
I have been a flashing junkie since I bought an original Droid, I rooted my Dev Edition for the main purpose of using Titanium Backup for games and apps in case there is a bad update in the Play Store. I found using Xposed with the Gravity Box module gave me practically every option I usually looked for in a rom while using the stock software, I have since flashed all my families devices back to stock and use Gravity Box.
I don't think you have to worry about Moto releasing a new phone until late summer/fall, they know that style of releasing phones every few months doesn't work for them as it does for Samsung. Producing quality handsets and supporting them with very fast updates is winning Motorola new/past customers and the way they are treating the Android community is something that the other OEM's should strive to emulate.

Yeah the internal specs Dont bother me much because the I know the performance is still top notch. Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7". But I think itd be nice to be able to use my phone again with one hand lol my S4 I can do most things one handed but there are still definitely instances where I need two.
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Yeah the internal specs Dont bother me much because the I know the performance is still top notch. Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7". But I think itd be nice to be able to use my phone again with one hand lol my S4 I can do most things one handed but there are still definitely instances where I need two.
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If you decide to buy, I have a way to knock $50 off for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617346

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If you decide to buy, I have a way to knock $50 off for you http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2617346
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Thank you so much but I'd be buying it from someone off Craigslist for $300, brand new in package. But I appreciate the offer.
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I don't see how the Moto x2 could be much better. LOL
Plus it'll cost way more.
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Absolutely. The X is the first phone I don't really care what the internal specs are or feel compelled to switch to CM or any other roms. I love it.

S3 ->Note 2 -> s4 -> HTC one -> nexus 4 -> moto x
My point is I've slowly downgraded the spec sheet and have no regrets. Comparing apples to apples. Every device listed was running AOSP/AOKP/CM and the last 2 phones have been by far the smoothest even though on paper they don't quite stack up to the others. Battery life is above average but not great in my opinion but the ergonomics of this phone is one of the best I've had in a long time
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Best phone I've ever owned. It's so fast and fluid even with the "inferior" specs. Not only that, but coming from a Droid DNA with its 1080p screen, I prefer the Moto X screen with the much nicer colors and I can't even tell the difference in resolution.
Get the Moto X.

Putting in my 2 cents,
I have had a Galaxy note 2 with a 5.5in screen for the past year. I love the phone, mostly due to the amazing battery life and the large screen.
I bought my wife a Moto X last week. I have since rooted it, and have been tinkering with it. I gotta say, I want one. I don't really mind the difference in screen size that much. Battery life is just as good, if not better (remains to be further tested). Always on voice controls are super cool. And you have kitkat.
I wouldn't pay attention to the so called "specs". Yeah it's a dual core compared to my quad core Note 2, but in reality it is just as snappy (if not snappier)
Plus, my Note 2's compass sensor has always been dysfunctional. It never was steady, just jumps around. When I saw Windy Day and how flawlessly it worked with the built-in sensors, I was blown away.
I think Motorola is on the right path. With the recently lowered prices, near stock experience and the unlocked developer edition (on Verizon, which I still can't believe those bastards allowed it) Moto X is an awesome phone with great value. I especially like that Moto is going for improving the overall experience rather than getting into a pissing contest over specs.
I hate, really *HATE* Verizon, but let's face it, they have the best LTE network and I still happen to have unlimited data. I especially hate their practice of not letting anybody else sell devices that are compatible with Verizon's network (ie. Nexus 7). I hate the fact that I can't simply buy a cheap new phone from the manufacturer, but instead have to buy them from Verizon or their approved vendors like BestBuy for much more than what they would cost direct from the manufacturer.
I honestly can't believe that Motorola was able to price the Moto X at $399 with no contract on Verizon. Verizon likes to say that the phones actually cost $700 but you're getting a $400 discount when you sign a contract and pay $300 for the phone, when in reality, the phone would cost $400 and you're only getting a hundred bucks for signing the contract. Kudos to Moto. I hope it sets the stage for other manufacturers

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Its mostly the the screen adjustment and going for a 5" screen to 4.7".,
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Coming from a Note 2, the adjustment wasn't difficult at all. The only thing I miss is multi-window.

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Coming from a Note 2, the adjustment wasn't difficult at all. The only thing I miss is multi-window.
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Verizon has the moto x for 50 bucks right now with a 2 year contract. I just bought one for my son. My wife and I both have the DE phones I paid 450 each on motorola.com...I have unlimited on both. Best phone I have ever owned hands down.

Well my original offer fell through but I'm suppose to be getting a 32gb version tomorrow for $350. So fingers crossed!
I never use multiwindow on my S4 so won't miss that. And the IR blaster, very cool but I only use when screwing around with friends TVs lol I think in the end, the moto x has more useful extras than the galaxy devices.
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If you're worried about space, it does come with 50gb added to your drive storage on Google
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Yeah true. Well since I'm gonna get a 32gb version, I should be set.
I just hope this phone doesn't show its age too soon. Just read an artical comparing the nexus 5 and X. Talking about the X showing its age quicker. Which is obvious since the nexus 5 has upgraded processor, etc. But just hoping I don't slow downs in speed and use in a year from now.
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This phone is hands-down the best that I've ever used. Not only in performance, but features too.

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Yeah true. Well since I'm gonna get a 32gb version, I should be set.
I just hope this phone doesn't show its age too soon. Just read an artical comparing the nexus 5 and X. Talking about the X showing its age quicker. Which is obvious since the nexus 5 has upgraded processor, etc. But just hoping I don't slow downs in speed and use in a year from now.
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If you have the mindset about not getting a phone because its going to be outdated or not the newest, shiniest in a year your never going to get a phone!!!
The phone cycle is practically six months or so.
To be honest, phones are hitting their critical ass point ad far as specs go. When all these reviews talk about this phone is faster than that one they're talking millisecond at this point.
Find a phone that you like size wise, screen looks good to you and just buy it.
If you don't ur always gonna be waiting for the next new thing.
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What's next for Nexus 5 users??

Hopefully i'm not alone on an island when I say that the Nexus 6 is just too large for me. If i wanted a phablet, there are other alternatives. Having said that i was just curious what the future of Nexus is going to be? I suppose it's way too early to know, but just wanted to put my mind at ease because ever since the latest release, I'm really at a loss as to what my next phone purchase will be?
We now have the Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, nexus 7, Nexus 9, Nexus 10? Will they refresh the current screen sizes with newer hardware? I really hope so cause screen size is the biggest factor now for me in terms of buying a nexus. If the nexus 4 had a refresh, i would have totally gone with that. Thoughts anyone?

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Hopefully i'm not alone on an island when I say that the Nexus 6 is just too large for me. If i wanted a phablet, there are other alternatives. Having said that i was just curious what the future of Nexus is going to be? I suppose it's way too early to know, but just wanted to put my mind at ease because ever since the latest release, I'm really at a loss as to what my next phone purchase will be?
We now have the Nexus 4, Nexus 5, Nexus 6, nexus 7, Nexus 9, Nexus 10? Will they refresh the current screen sizes with newer hardware? I really hope so cause screen size is the biggest factor now for me in terms of buying a nexus. If the nexus 4 had a refresh, i would have totally gone with that. Thoughts anyone?
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If you're looking for your next phone, I HIGHLY recommend the new Moto X. Gorgeous and powerful hardware, stock Android with a few actually useful and innovative additions, and it's sold for a great price. I have both the N5 and Moto X and the X is an upgrade in every way, and IMO is the spiritual successor to the N5.

After not being able to get N6 64gb the last 3 weeks & playing with one at a tmobile store, I've decided its too big! My Nexus5 is still rocken for now. I'll be watching S810 device's announcements at CES Jan. 5, 2015. Maybe a Sony Xperia Z4/Z4 Ultra, M9 or other newly branded devices. Thin frame, stereo front speakers, 5.5 to 5.7 screen, unlockable, etc are my preferences...

rogerchew said:
Hopefully i'm not alone on an island when I say that the Nexus 6 is just too large for me. If i wanted a phablet, there are other alternatives.
Having said that i was just curious what the future of Nexus is going to be?
If the nexus 4 had a refresh, i would have totally gone with that. Thoughts anyone?
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Nah. Last year, I wanted at least a 5" 1080p display. Nexus 5 was close enough.
Agreed the NEXUS 6 is too large. Not the display, the entire phone. Anything larger than the LG G3 is too big for a phone, for me.
This year I wanted at least 5.2" 1440p (preferably the size of the LG G2) with Snapdragon 805. As late as mid-August Google was testing a 5.2" 1440p with Snapdragon 805 to be the NEXUS 6. But instead they they stupidly went with the monstrosity, and let Motorola release the 5.2" version as the Moto Maxx/Droid Turbo.
So in getting the Moto Maxx in spite of the silly capacitive buttons.

I'll have to check out the Motorola phones then, but the goal really for me is something smaller than 5 inches, but a "nexus" device for the fast updates.

Yea I'm in the same boat. The N6 is insanely big especially for my hands and there's really nothing that stands out about it besides fast updates. Now that it's nearly twice as much its put itself in a completely new category against the note 4 which literally destroys it in every way besides the front speakers and updates (I also prefer no buttons but since the galaxy phone home buttons are now fingerprint scanners it doesn't seem as bad) and I don't ever use the speaker in the phone besides occasionally showing a friend a YouTube vid or notifications. I'm between a note 4 and just keeping my n5 until s810s start popping up.

all the reviews for the Moto X (2014) cite a mediocre battery life and hit or miss camera results. Those are literally the two things holding back the N5.

Exactly. The Moto X could have been the top phone on the market but they failed on battery and cam. So I'm leaning toward the Droid Turbo, but I'm still not sold on it. The size is tolerable (N5 seems just right. N6 is ridiculous) and battery isn't as good as they claim but still far better than N5. Camera, I'm not sure. Mixed reviews I think.

Is the moto x even an upgrade in any area? The software seems to be what people like. The hardware is basically the same in every day use as a nexus 5 isn't it?

Nexus 6 is too big for hands, that's for sure. No way you're going to one-hand that with a cup of coffee in the other and still slide your metrocard to get on the subway. And forget about getting that thing into your pocket.
Why did they ruin our Nexus? And why are they charging twice as much? I'm actually very sad about all of this. Now I'm stuck with deciding between the Moto X and the Droid Turbo. Sucks.
You know what? I'm just gonna keep my Nexus 5. This phone rocks. Google just sent me a free refurb replacement, and with Lollipop, it feels like I have a brand new phone.

Nexus 5 is still a great smartphone and still a superb buy, even this time next year it still be decent and rocking with whatever latest Android is by then, plus hopefully Google will see sense and go back to a 5" or 5.2" screen & give either HTC or Sony a bash at a Nexus Smartphone, or better still have 2 Nexus Smartphones Phablet and standard to keep everybody happy.

I was very very close to getting a moto x, but after flashing lollipop, my Nexus was like a brand new device and I decided I would stick with it for a bit.
Then I was lucky enough to get an invite for the oneplus the other day and it is expected to arrive this weekend. We will still if that is a worth successor without being too big.
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For now, I'll keep using the Nexus 5, although I initially wanted to buy the Nexus 6.
Unfortunately, the significant price increase (Nex 6 costs about 300 EUR more than a Nex 5 in the German Play Store) forced me to do the decision not to buy it. I primarily need a good developer phone, and 650 EUR for the Nex 6 is just waaaay to much money.
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Benjamin

I'm holding out to see what Samsung and HTC do in the spring. GS6 and M9. Nothing from this year impresses me. Scratch that... Note 4 hardware is impressive, but TouchWiz still kills it, as always.

I'm waiting for project ara.… .
My wife for my nexus 5
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Probably gonna wait for the nexus release next year. Price is way too high for a nexus 6. I'm good with a 5.in fact I bought a used one about a month ago and it's still a very fantastic phone for its price. I'm kicking myself now for not buying it 1year earlier.

absolutely moto X

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LG G3 with cyanogenmod for the win phone has the right hardware, size, removable battery , now we just need the right ROM. Until then I'll stick to the N5.

I was wanting the Xperia Z3, but ****ing Sony and their DRM removal when you unlock the bootloader... the camera turns to **** and the modem/radio doesn't even work when you unlock the bootloader! I'm watching the Note 4.

Keep nexus 6 or get Moto X Pure Edition

New moto X looks pretty awesome... I don't see any reason not to switch... Anyone else thinking of doing the same?

clninja said:
New moto X looks pretty awesome... I don't see any reason not to switch... Anyone else thinking of doing the same?
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Smaller screen ,not amoled , and basically the same hardware.Nexus 6 should be faster with updates.
I can't find a reason to switch to moto x style.
If i do it ,i will pick a device with better specs (4gb ram,sd810).
First smartphone that i can think of is oneplus two.
The new nexus device(s) are not that far away either.

I'm going for the moto style that's what it's called in UK looks great and loving the build of my N6 so the new moto x style should be awesome and the price is good..
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vadergr said:
Smaller screen ,not amoled , and basically the same hardware.Nexus 6 should be faster with updates.
I can't find a reason to switch to moto x style.
If i do it ,i will pick a device with better specs (4gb ram,sd810).
First smartphone that i can think of is oneplus two.
The new nexus device(s) are not that far away either.
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You wouldn't pick up a Moto X because no 4gb of ram or 810 (which what good is an 810 if it had to be throttled to not overheat) or no amoled screen yet would pick up a oneplus two thats lacking.....
QHD screen
sd card support
NFC
Quick Charging
Front facing speakers
smaller mp camera
smaller screen than Moto X
Can only be activated on att& and tmobile
Need an invite to purchase
I'm sorry....what???

That's 20MP is tempting me to switch.

Grabbed the Nexus 6 originally in hopes that moto suite could be ported over. That has turned out to be pretty much a fail, so getting the moto x pure is probably the next best thing. Can't wait to get it! At this point if moto apps haven't been ported over to the nexus 6 I have a feeling it never will.

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You wouldn't pick up a Moto X because no 4gb of ram or 810 (which what good is an 810 if it had to be throttled to not overheat) or no amoled screen yet would pick up a oneplus two thats lacking.....
QHD screen
sd card support
NFC
Quick Charging
Front facing speakers
smaller mp camera
smaller screen than Moto X
Can only be activated on att& and tmobile
Need an invite to purchase
I'm sorry....what???
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I can understand your thoughts and questions.
1)Nothing beats the deep blacks of amoled display.I get it that nexus's 6 display is not calibrated but i don't care that much.My projector needs to be calibrated, the screen of my phone doesn't have to (my opinion).I choose infinite contrast than accurate colors.Basically i prefer to have both , but samsung devices lost me as a customer since the implementation of knox counter.
2)sd810 is way better than 808 even if it throttles.My previous flex 2 did throttle but only in benchmarks.Had no impact on real life usage or gaming.The andreno of the 810 is a beast compared to the one of 808.You need that power when you have to deal with qhd screens.Also oneplus promised a better tuned sd810 for oneplus two model.
3)The oneplus 2 doesn't have quick charging but it charges relatively quick (early reports) and i personally never used nfc.Oneplus two will probably have better battery life performance than motorola style.
4)Will miss the dual speakers,and would like an sd card, i admit it
5)Camera performance was never that great on a Motorola device and more mpixels will not make guaranteed difference.I trust more the one on oneplus two (had oneplus one before)
6)I am from Europe , usually we don't depend that much on carriers .
7)Invite system sucks , but if you need one, you will get it easily.
8)The oneplus (and nexus 6) have great support on xda with unlocked bootloader and no warranty loss.
I am not saying that style is a bad device, not at all.I am just not receiving the "flagship" feeling of the other devices (no amoled , no 4gb ram , no sd810).For my needs, the nexus 6 is still the better one.