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A new update is being released for the S5 Active, since i didn't see a thread on how to root the device... Here it is...
Towel root works on the NE4 build but will not work on the new NG3 update.
So what i did was downgraded with the firmware file found on Sammobile with the NE4 build.
Then used Towel root and installed SuperSU, it said it failed to install Supersu but after a reboot all was well.
Oh this was a AT&T S5 active.
SuperSU worked fine and root was verified!
I haven't posted much before. I would like to give back to the awesome community who has done so much for me!
Hit the thanks button if i helped!
Could really use your help
James L said:
A new update is being released for the S5 Active, since i didn't see a thread on how to root the device... Here it is...
Towel root works on the NE4 build but will not work on the new NG3 update.
So what i did was downgraded with the firmware file found on Sammobile with the NE4 build.
Then used Towel root and installed SuperSU, it said it failed to install Supersu but after a reboot all was well.
Oh this was a AT&T S5 active.
SuperSU worked fine and root was verified!
I haven't posted much before. I would like to give back to the awesome community who has done so much for me!
Hit the thanks button if i helped!
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Trying to use your same method
I am trying to root my phone with Towel root and it won't recognize my phone either. My phone deleted all it's text messages, for some reason, last night and I need to root my phone so I can save some of the messages. Came across your post and figured you can help me. I downloaded the may version of the sm-g870A and odin. Odin won't open. I've never done this before and could use your help. If I can downgrade my firmware, or change it, in a way where Towel root would recognize my phone that would be exactly what I need. Also tried all the Modstrings, did no good. Whatever you could say to help, can hit me up personally and help me, idk if you could do that, but it'd be awesome if you could help me.
hitncnotes said:
Trying to use your same method
I am trying to root my phone with Towel root and it won't recognize my phone either. My phone deleted all it's text messages, for some reason, last night and I need to root my phone so I can save some of the messages. Came across your post and figured you can help me. I downloaded the may version of the sm-g870A and odin. Odin won't open. I've never done this before and could use your help. If I can downgrade my firmware, or change it, in a way where Towel root would recognize my phone that would be exactly what I need. Also tried all the Modstrings, did no good. Whatever you could say to help, can hit me up personally and help me, idk if you could do that, but it'd be awesome if you could help me.
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You should try my thread here guys. >>>> CLICK ME PLEASE AND HIT THANKS IF IT WORKS FOR YOU
Hi, I really appreciated your post, but was confused with "NE4" & "NG3" can someone please explain what these are and how would I downgrade to NE4? Thanks
landonfox00 said:
Hi, I really appreciated your post, but was confused with "NE4" & "NG3" can someone please explain what these are and how would I downgrade to NE4? Thanks
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NE4 and NG3 are official kernel images...
Downgrade consists of flashing the NE4 kernel image via Odin...then rooting the device....and then flashing the NG3 kernel via Odin which will give you a fully rooted rom that is the latest version...
Knox will NOT trip if you follow the thread instructions...
We are forced to downgrade the kernel to gain root due to the exploit being patched in the latest update...
The root method works perfectly....g
Thank you for your help
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Thanks so much u guys, the root was successful
gregsarg said:
Knox will NOT trip if you follow the thread instructions...
The root method works perfectly....g
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can i get a link please to these instructions because this thread seems to be pretty vague on the steps required to downgrade
mikeloeven said:
can i get a link please to these instructions because this thread seems to be pretty vague on the steps required to downgrade
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2868776
James L said:
A new update is being released for the S5 Active, since i didn't see a thread on how to root the device... Here it is...
Towel root works on the NE4 build but will not work on the new NG3 update.
So what i did was downgraded with the firmware file found on Sammobile with the NE4 build.
Then used Towel root and installed SuperSU, it said it failed to install Supersu but after a reboot all was well.
Oh this was a AT&T S5 active.
SuperSU worked fine and root was verified!
I haven't posted much before. I would like to give back to the awesome community who has done so much for me!
Hit the thanks button if i helped!
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Sorry to revive an old thread but I am on 5.0. how do I downgrade to 4.4.4? I've done it in the past but I forgot how to do it
Anyone have boc5 firmware anywhere?
Rootmaster906 said:
Sorry to revive an old thread but I am on 5.0. how do I downgrade to 4.4.4? I've done it in the past but I forgot how to do it
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Doesn't ATT have the bootloader locked?
Rootmaster906 said:
Sorry to revive an old thread but I am on 5.0. how do I downgrade to 4.4.4? I've done it in the past but I forgot how to do it
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Find the firmware and put it into the AP slot of Odin.
dave678 said:
Find the firmware and put it into the AP slot of Odin.
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Lol. That is not what I'm asking. what I'm asking for is what firmware do I need to step backwards to kit Kat. I know if I can get it on revision 2 bootloader lollipop, I can downgrade to revision one kit Kat. I did this in the past but I forgot how. Right now I downgraded to 5.0 and I'm trying kingroot and Kingo root. It's not working
Find the latest 4.4.4 Kitkat version and try.
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Find the latest 4.4.4 Kitkat version and try.
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I did. Says fuse binary of 2. That's why I need the lp firmware with the binary of 1. So that I can downgrade to 4.4. Believe me I know what I'm doing, I just can't find the appropriate firmware. I need the boc 5 firmware. But that was an OTA I think
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Doesn't ATT have the bootloader locked?
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Yes...but you can get system root with towelroot. Safestrap recovery for locked bootloaders
Rootmaster906 said:
I did. Says fuse binary of 2. That's why I need the lp firmware with the binary of 1. So that I can downgrade to 4.4. Believe me I know what I'm doing, I just can't find the appropriate firmware. I need the boc 5 firmware. But that was an OTA I think
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Can't find BOC5 anywhere
Rootmaster906 said:
I did. Says fuse binary of 2. That's why I need the lp firmware with the binary of 1. So that I can downgrade to 4.4. Believe me I know what I'm doing, I just can't find the appropriate firmware. I need the boc 5 firmware. But that was an OTA I think
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[G870A][MM][6.0.1] All OTA Updates for G870A from G870AUCU1BOC5 to G870AUCS2DPH4
NOTE: to download these files use free download manager www.freedownloadmanager.org or else you will encouter with this error "Error 403 Forbidden You don't have permission to access the file on this server"...
forum.xda-developers.com
Rootmaster906 said:
Yes...but you can get system root with towelroot. Safestrap recovery for locked bootloaders
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https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347762753 This is a pre rooted rom.
dave678 said:
https://androidfilehost.com/?fid=24052804347762753 This is a pre rooted rom.
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thank you very much for your Noble efforts but none of your suggestions are working. I've done all this stuff already dude. This is why I need the boc5 firmware
Hi, just wondering if someone could be kind enough to upload a g flex rogers canada rom doesnt matter if its jb or kitkat. I lost my backup when i was trying to return to stock.
Thanks
nooganator said:
Hi, just wondering if someone could be kind enough to upload a g flex rogers canada rom doesnt matter if its jb or kitkat. I lost my backup when i was trying to return to stock.
Thanks
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http://csmgdl.lgmobile.com/dn/downloader.dev?fileKey=FW545495432109876543213/D950G10a_00.kdz
That's for 4.4.2, which I can't find a root method for, without downgrading back to 4.2.2. Do you know of a way?
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Or even a way to downgrade back to 4.2.2. I have rooted many Androids, first time stumped
im running 4.2.2 atm, I was hoping someone would post a nandroid backup of just the stock rooted rom so I can try to flash it in Twrp
Why not easily root with Towelroot or ioroot? It works on 4.2.2. Can you give me link to 4.2.2? All you have to do is down load the app lg phone from, it will give you a link to the rom. How do you flash rom with out being rooted?
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You could take update and use app keep root. Then you would be rooted on 4.4.2. I bought phone already on 4.4.2, not knowing had to downgrade to root. Have method, but for some reason the LG kdz compiler crashes on my computer. If I could flash 4.2.2 then root, I would be good
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Actually if someone posted a rogers 4.4.2 rooted, could I flash that using lg flash tool, then would I also be rooted on 4.4.2
Root can be achieved on either 4.2.2 or on 4.4.2 with towelroot. Don't have to downgrade. Just root with towel root.
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Every time I update from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 I just use towel root to root my flex on KitKat. I don't see what the confusion is or why you are trying to downgrade if all you want is to obtain root KitKat. Towel root will root your flex on KitKat.
mattwheat said:
Root can be achieved on either 4.2.2 or on 4.4.2 with towelroot. Don't have to downgrade. Just root with towel root.
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Every time I update from 4.2.2 to 4.4.2 I just use towel root to root my flex on KitKat. I don't see what the confusion is or why you are trying to downgrade if all you want is to obtain root KitKat. Towel root will root your flex on KitKat.
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On rogers g flex I have tried many times, it doesn't work on 4.4.2 other does stump root,abd ioroot
See the confusion. You must be using a t mobile flex or something
BrownDog99 said:
See the confusion. You must be using a t mobile flex or something
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I'm using a T-Mobile G Flex and have no problems rooting using towelroot.
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henslo said:
I'm using a T-Mobile G Flex and have no problems rooting using towelroot.
Sent from my LG-D959 using XDA Free mobile app
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Ya Towelroot. Ioroot, and probably stump work for t-mobile, but not At&t, Verizon, or rogers, while on 4.4.2. Many threads talk about this
BrownDog99 said:
Ya Towelroot. Ioroot, and probably stump work for t-mobile, but not At&t, Verizon, or rogers, while on 4.4.2. Many threads talk about this
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To be fair it's mainly you talking about it not working. A lot of other people were doing towelroot works for them on att. Not sure why stump isn't working the thread even says out should work on all devices from 2012-now.
At any rate I'll try to make that zip for you tomorrow if you can do something for me. Please report all these non development threads that are posted in the development section to get them moved. It's cluttering it up here. I would but I'm going i bed right now after i get your kdz downloading.
Have you tried framaroot or saferoot
Hi all,
New to the forum, made an account because I wanted to let you guys know what worked for me:
I've had my flex since November 2014, when I bought it to replace my g3 after dismally bricked while trying to boost the volume.
I just recently managed to muster up the courage to try to root my flex, and had a really hard time finding a root method that worked.
My flex is running 4.4.2, I'm with rogers, and if I'm not mistaken, my software version was something along the lines of D950G20b.
Towelroot said it was an unsupported device, as did stump root, even after trying to force it.
I finally managed to get root access using the root method for the g flex 2 from highonandroid. Unfortunately I cannot paste a direct link, but it can be found very easily by searching for the
following on google: highonandroid root lg g flex 2
I did have one hiccup during the root, after entering the step 11 after pasting the second command, where the indicator jumped to the next line but didn't move. I was able to get it to work
anyways by hitting Ctrl + c and then entering the two commands from step 11 again.
turned my phone off by holding the power button down for a few seconds, rebooted it, and voila, root access, verified by installing titanium backup.
I will be trying to install cwm in a few minutes via the "freedom flex" app found on the play store.
Hope this is at least a bit helpful to somebody!
OK, so I'm VERY new to posting here, and idk where to post this, but I've recently restored my device to stock 4.3, then updated it (4.4.3). Now im trying to root it with towelroot, but it says my device isn't supported. And I even tried the 3 codes you put into the app, and it still said my devise was unsupported. PLEASE HELP! Thank you
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OK, so I'm VERY new to posting here, and idk where to post this, but I've recently restored my device to stock 4.3, then updated it (4.4.3). Now im trying to root it with towelroot, but it says my device isn't supported. And I even tried the 3 codes you put into the app, and it still said my devise was unsupported. PLEASE HELP! Thank you
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What firmware are you on (we need the alphanumeric code) NC9, NE3 or NH3? There is no such thing as 4.4.3 for the i537.
Once you determine what firmware you are on, go to the following thread and follow the link to root. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2629093
Lane5SOS said:
OK, so I'm VERY new to posting here, and idk where to post this, but I've recently restored my device to stock 4.3, then updated it (4.4.3). Now im trying to root it with towelroot, but it says my device isn't supported. And I even tried the 3 codes you put into the app, and it still said my devise was unsupported. PLEASE HELP! Thank you
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4.4.2
Devo7v said:
What firmware are you on (we need the alphanumeric code) NC9, NE3 or NH3? There is no such thing as 4.4.3 for the i537.
Once you determine what firmware you are on, go to the following thread and follow the link to root. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2629093
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4.4.2, sorry and its NH3
Lane5SOS said:
4.4.2, sorry and its NH3
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Follow the link I posted above, do some reading, and you will find the link you need for root instructions.
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It says its been superceded by towlroot, but towlroot isnt working for me, and im not sure why
Lane5SOS said:
It says its been superceded by towlroot, but towlroot isnt working for me, and im not sure why
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NH3 can't be rooted with towelroot.
Rooted NH3 on ATT S4 Active
drake90001 said:
NH3 can't be rooted with towelroot.
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My S4A is running rooted NH3.
You have to reflash the inital KitKat (NE3) firmware, but minus the bootloader, using your existing NH3 bootloader, then re-root with towelroot. You can then reflash NH3 AP, CP, CSC. Thanks to @Devo7v files and instructions are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-active/general/guide-update-to-i537-att-firmware-t2835481
Thanks again Devo7v. :good:
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Lane5SOS said:
It says its been superceded by towlroot, but towlroot isnt working for me, and im not sure why
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@Lane5SOS, do what @Devo7v suggested and read through the link he gave you. You will find: "Root method: In order to root NH3 you must first flash the NE3 kernel through Odin because it still has the root vulnerability. Then root using towelroot.com. Once you have rooted, flash the NH3 kernel through Odin. Discussion and further instructions about this method can be ...................."
namitutonka said:
My S4A is running rooted NH3.
You have to reflash the inital KitKat (NE3) firmware, but minus the bootloader, using your existing NH3 bootloader, then re-root with towelroot. You can then reflash NH3 AP, CP, CSC. Thanks to @Devo7v files and instructions are here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s4-active/general/guide-update-to-i537-att-firmware-t2835481
Thanks again Devo7v. :good:
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@Lane5SOS, do what @Devo7v suggested and read through the link he gave you. You will find: "Root method: In order to root NH3 you must first flash the NE3 kernel through Odin because it still has the root vulnerability. Then root using towelroot.com. Once you have rooted, flash the NH3 kernel through Odin. Discussion and further instructions about this method can be ...................."
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I also created a quick thread on how to root any i537 firmware for future reference.
Devo7v said:
I also created a quick thread on how to root any i537 firmware for future reference.
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Hadn't known till now of your quick thread, [GUIDE][HOW-TO] Root Any i537 AT&T Firmware, which you created 2/1/2015 here. Excellent helpful wrap up to those seeking info on rooting their AT&T SGH-i537 Samsung Galaxy S4 Active.
Also similar is Sunderwear's thread, Galaxy S4 Active 4.4.2 Kitkat ROOT, here. Like you, Devo7v, @Sunderwear has always been very helpful in the past.
Again, Devo7v, you have my respect, my trust in your reliable XDA posts, and many, many thanks!:highfive:
I see an OC5 on swappa. Can I root and update to OF3 securely with this? What is the least time consuming to root?
When you root it let me know i have the at&t s5 on lollipop been told its unrootable
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I used one click root for the root. But the bootloader stays locked on at&t s5, so their are two options that i know of. One, use odin and the correct tar to unlock it which is risky, or use an app called safestrap. Thats what I did.
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Stonecold. I believe you have to revert back to 4.4.2 to root. But it can be done.
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stonecold36067 said:
When you root it let me know i have the at&t s5 on lollipop been told its unrootable
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I believe you have to revert to 4.4.2 to root. But it can definitely be rooted. I have an at&t s5 with superuser. I used one click root for the root.
It wont downgrade
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My baseband is ng3. I had sucess using oneclick. But I am still on kitkat. Research how to use odin3 to revert your phone. I think I read something about that. Revert then root. Its impossible to root a phone unless on stock rom. Well, I believe it is.
est.mcmlxxvii said:
My baseband is ng3. I had sucess using oneclick. But I am still on kitkat. Research how to use odin3 to revert your phone. I think I read something about that. Revert then root. Its impossible to root a phone unless on stock rom. Well, I believe it is.
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revert my phone to what? Your language is very ambiguous.
If you didn't have root before OTA 5.0 (Lollipop) you can't go back, you can't use safestrap, can't use Odin AND CANT ROOT YET. A locked loader won't allow you to use Odin to flash, and no root means can't get safestrap.. 1 click root only works before OTA 5.0 UPDATE. There is always a way but not yet.
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If you didn't have root before OTA 5.0 (Lollipop) you can't go back, you can't use safestrap, can't use Odin AND CANT ROOT YET. A locked loader won't allow you to use Odin to flash, and no root means can't get safestrap.. 1 click root only works before OTA 5.0 UPDATE. There is always a way but not yet.
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So if I root before then, then update to a custom Lollipop ROM I am good?
Also please hit REPLY
zetsui said:
So if I root before then, then update to a custom Lollipop ROM I am good?
Also please hit REPLY
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There are a few threads on here how to get root, then upgrade to lollipop and keep root. Then you can still use safestrap to change loaders and roms. Safestrap just simply interupts the boot sequence(before the loader). I'm guessing once you upgrade, your loader will be locked also, so to change anything you'll have to have a back up on safestrap with the previous version, and unlocked loader... so you can go back and forth. I'm not sure of everything possible since my lazy ass never got root access before the update, so I'm sol for now. I'm planning on getting a new phone soon and giving this s5 to my wife anyway.
ttom85 said:
There are a few threads on here how to get root, then upgrade to lollipop and keep root. Then you can still use safestrap to change loaders and roms. Safestrap just simply interupts the boot sequence(before the loader). I'm guessing once you upgrade, your loader will be locked also, so to change anything you'll have to have a back up on safestrap with the previous version, and unlocked loader... so you can go back and forth. I'm not sure of everything possible since my lazy ass never got root access before the update, so I'm sol for now. I'm planning on getting a new phone soon and giving this s5 to my wife anyway.
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Safestrap because it comes before the bootloader? Why not TWRP? Does twrp not come before the bootloader? Man I don't want anything to have to do with bootloaders again 3 years of solid rooting and dev experience and two GS3s in one day to ****ing updating the bootloader
zetsui said:
Safestrap because it comes before the bootloader? Why not TWRP? Does twrp not come before the bootloader? Man I don't want anything to have to do with bootloaders again 3 years of solid rooting and dev experience and two GS3s in one day to ****ing updating the bootloader
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Bootloader is and has been locked, safestrap was the only recovery we had because it wasn't a traditional recovery in the sens that it didn't replace the stock one. With lollipop it broke, if you downgrade your kernel you can get it to work, but other than that you have to use flashfire which is not a recovery but simply a flashing tool. Twrp and any other recovery will not work, and any non-touchwiz based roms(aosp, aokp, cm) will not work, you have to use only touchwiz based ones and no custom kernels.
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Rakuu said:
Bootloader is and has been locked, safestrap was the only recovery we had because it wasn't a traditional recovery in the sens that it didn't replace the stock one. With lollipop it broke, if you downgrade your kernel you can get it to work, but other than that you have to use flashfire which is not a recovery but simply a flashing tool. Twrp and any other recovery will not work, and any non-touchwiz based roms(aosp, aokp, cm) will not work, you have to use only touchwiz based ones and no custom kernels.
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no aosp at all or just non-touchwiz aosp wont work? man **** samsung and att. i mean this was the entire allure of the phone say over an iphone. Seems like so many constraints for flashing compared to the GS3. Retarded.
who do I donate to that is working on rooting this pos?
I'm looking to pick up a new S5. What version/baseband number should I look for that is still rootable?
Let me know when orbif you find out. I want mine rooted too
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Seems like the root methods mentioned on the forums are dangerous. Now.. I love a good rooted phone. But why couldn't I Just odin twrp and flash a SU update zip? Is it only because the bootloader is locked? Why can't I unlock the bootloader and odin twrp and SU#?? Any help is greatly appreciated.
-Matthew
Unless you are on an old rom, the only option to get root would be to get another phone. This phone will never again have root.
Still on Lollipop here, phone still blows.
mscooksey21 said:
Seems like the root methods mentioned on the forums are dangerous. Now.. I love a good rooted phone. But why couldn't I Just odin twrp and flash a SU update zip? Is it only because the bootloader is locked? Why can't I unlock the bootloader and odin twrp and SU#?? Any help is greatly appreciated.
-Matthew
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Yes bootloader lock inhibits from directly flashing anything if ure on lolipop u can inject root with the modified system image. And having root is the onlything that makes the 991 worth keeping if i couldnt have root then out the door it goes. Also root is all you get no twrp clockwork mod nothin again due to locked bootloader
TheMadScientist420 said:
Yes bootloader lock inhibits from directly flashing anything if ure on lolipop u can inject root with the modified system image. And having root is the onlything that makes the 991 worth keeping if i couldnt have root then out the door it goes. Also root is all you get no twrp clockwork mod nothin again due to locked bootloader
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What's up with this chainfire one click root thing... is it complete bogus?
www.search4roots.com/how-to-root-lg-g4-sprint-lgls991/
mscooksey21 said:
What's up with this chainfire one click root thing... is it complete bogus?
www.search4roots.com/how-to-root-lg-g4-sprint-lgls991/
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Yea the only root method for us is 1st lolipop only zv6 firmware which isnt mentiond any where. 2nd due to locked bl and no workaround like loki or bump for g2 and g3 it stops us from gaining root that way. Plus if im not mistaken all the root methods on previous g series have been done throught adb one clicks or stump root. But on g4 only way is to replace the system partition with one that has root injected. Its really not that bad. Im lazy and copy and paste all commands. But in the end we still only have root. With minimal system r/w acsses.
Now i may be wrong but last i heard this was only method.
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I dont think thats an official chainfire root method
De_Falt said:
Still on Lollipop here, phone still blows.
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Quoted for truth. Holy sh*t.
I like this phone, but I'm SOOO ready to move on. I think I'm going to try the Note 7 this year.... But only if and when they announce root has been achieved on the Note 7. I'm on ZV6 rooted, and I'd rather have root than the latest and greatest OS so LG can keep MM and N. Don't need it if I gotta give up root.