When I got the phone, the battery section of settings would estimate 24-26 hours remaining from a full charge. I'm at 90% and it's estimating 15 hours remaining. Anyone else have this dramatic decrease in battery life? My usage of the phone hasn't changed.
The estimated time remaining is an ESTIMATE based on the current usage. (I'm not sure if it's based on the the current usage from a given timespan, since last unplugged in, or what.) The point is that if you leave your phone idle after fully charging, you'll have a higher estimated time remaining. If you use it heavily right after charging, you'll have a lower estimated time remaining.
In other words, it's kind of saying something like "Based on how you've recently been using your phone, you have XX hours remaining." So, change how your using the phone, and the estimate (actually, more of a guesstimate) will change.
Yeah... Makes sense. Phone gets very hot too. Average is 90°...
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Yeah... Makes sense. Phone gets very hot too. Average is 90°...
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°C or °F ? 90°F is cool for a phone.
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°C or °F ? 90°F is cool for a phone.
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90f. Peaks at 105F. Also... Battery drain is kinda bad during games. I'll lose 60%+ an hour
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90f. Peaks at 105F. Also... Battery drain is kinda bad during games. I'll lose 60%+ an hour
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90F is cool for a phone thats on. your body has an average body temperature of 98.6F. my guess is thst you are giving your battery temp. battery safety is st 60C, which is 140F. your phones cpu has a safety shutdown mechanism that automatically shuts down at 105C, which is 225F.
and battery drain, can be pretty bad depending on the game, is very expected.
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90F is cool for a phone thats on. your body has an average body temperature of 98.6F. my guess is thst you are giving your battery temp. battery safety is st 60C, which is 140F. your phones cpu has a safety shutdown mechanism that automatically shuts down at 105C, which is 225F.
and battery drain, can be pretty bad depending on the game, is very expected.
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Gotcha, for temp. Makes sense.
For battery drain... Is Google planning on fixing this? Thought 5.0.1 was going to fix that...
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Gotcha, for temp. Makes sense.
For battery drain... Is Google planning on fixing this? Thought 5.0.1 was going to fix that...
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What game are you playing? Are you running stock? I would try lean kernel and try to change up the max frequency to see if it helps with the drain while still being able to run your game.
i have wonderful battery life. what ganes do you play, and how bright do you keep your screen usually. i dont play many games, but when i play midern combat 5, it drains battery. but i expect it to, since it heavily uses the cpu and gpu.
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i have wonderful battery life. what ganes do you play, and how bright do you keep your screen usually. i dont play many games, but when i play midern combat 5, it drains battery. but i expect it to, since it heavily uses the cpu and gpu.
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I use the auto adjusting whatever feature it's called.
Games.. Tiny tower, monument valley, Leos fortune, lollipop land, logo quiz
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I guess that I should mention that when on cell data, not wifi...the issues I mentioned are really the worst. When on WiFi, even at home with meh cell service, my phone doesn't get hot or suck down battery like when not on WiFi. And yes I turn off the radio when not in use as well as the WiFi scan in advanced settings
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Today was a great test, got 12 hours of usage with at least 5-7 of those hours of on screen time and had about maybe 3% left, also turbocharging, just amazing, had the phone back to 50% so fast, this thing is a beast hands down
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My Note seems to drain at a rate if 2% every 5 minutes of casual use. Doing things like forum surfing, photo viewing. I don't have SIM in it, have WIFI on and on airplane mode, screen level is set to 20%. Seems to be sucking battery pretty f'ing fast.
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My Note seems to drain at a rate if 2% every 5 minutes of casual use. Doing things like forum surfing, photo viewing. I don't have SIM in it, have WIFI on and on airplane mode, screen level is set to 20%. Seems to be sucking battery pretty f'ing fast.
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Did you just get it? Mine was initially the same but it slowed down after a few days of heavy use and charging.
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Did you just get it? Mine was initially the same but it slowed down after a few days of heavy use and charging.
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Yep, I just got it a few days ago. So maybe the battery/phone needs to get a broken in a little.
rgarjr said:
Yep, I just got it a few days ago. So maybe the battery/phone needs to get a broken in a little.
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Try Battery usage option in Settings>Application you can see which app draining your battery much.
How about reset to factory setting, than test again ?
or have you been install some Apps ?
Hello all,
After updating I am getting less battery. I am totally stock. Anyone on the same boat? Share your thoughts.
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Well, Im happy, before around 4 hours, now 5. :thumbdown:
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Mine is better
With moderate use* I went from 18 to 22 hours. I am happy...
* My N7 is not my daily driver, my pc still is... So it sits idle more often than not...
I'm totaly happy with the battery... getting at least a day and a half with normal use.
after updating its definitely drainng fast.
No drain here. I get 10-12 hours a day with heavy use and easily a day with moderate usage. Was roughly the same before update as well.
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First of all hello everyone
Yeah I've literally only had my Nexus 7 a matter of a week but I can tell the difference between the battery per and post update. It seems go drain a lot quicker!
Any tips on how to save battery and keep it for as long as possible bar the obvious app killer etc...
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If anything, mine has got slightly better. Used to have less than 18% by 8pm, now its more like 25%. I use it pretty much all day for YouTube, Engadget, Flipboard, Tapatalk, Chrome, music and a couple of hours of games.
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happy ever after...Lowl I have same battery life here..no difference
Battery life to me is good, what sucks is the charging time, damn
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Battery life to me is good, what sucks is the charging time, damn
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4326mAh battery, 2A charger, 2.1 hours theoretically. Realistically, 2.5-3.0 if pretty much empty.
If you're using a non standard cable or charger, who knows what the charger is actually outputting. If you're charging from your computer USB Port, that's 500mAh, so 8.6+ hours. Some random phone charger, probably 1000mAh, 4.3+ hours, etc.
The brightness of the display adds to some of the drain I notice, when possible I keep mine somewhat on the dimside, obviously if I'm in an area of bright light and it hard to see then I'll crank up the brightness.
Can't complain about battery usage.. It's amazingly energy efficient even on a stock kernel considering the horsepower this thing has.. I average 20hrs or so with moderate to heavy usage.
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Can't complain about battery usage.. It's amazingly energy efficient even on a stock kernel considering the horsepower this thing has.. I average 20hrs or so with moderate to heavy usage.
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Check this out, if you guys still complaining
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I am very satisfied with battery life. 2 and a half days with 4,5 hours of screen on. IMHO not bad at all.
I'm getting 7.1hrs non stop. Games, movies, social apps, chats, YouTube literally non stop. :beer:
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I think battery life is pretty good
I've had really bad drains since 4.1.2. I think I've narrowed it down to an issue with Google Play. I've noticed it several times - Very good battery life, but then it will go down fast, even when sitting unused. If I check battery usage, Google Play is always number one with >50% of the use.
If I force close GP, all will be well for about a day, but eventually it happens again.
I also felt it, but only by that much...not too obvious. From full charge, after only night idle, drop 3 percent compare to last time 1 or 2 percent
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Hallo!
Same problem, battery drain is faster, with normal use 12 hours (before 17) and when charging phone it's just 99%. With factory reset same resoult. Now I try without all gps conections.
Anyone have good solution?
I decided to call Google Tech support for the answer to ask whether the ear piece buzzing is causing battery drain. That's my only concern. I don't care if there's a buzz (the iPhone 4S had it, as did the GN, as do a few other phones).
And the fella I spoke with says the earpiece buzzing is not the father of your baby (/Maury mode) -- I mean, not causing battery drain.
He said it's a manufacturing defect and they'd be happy to send a replacement unit (I said, sure) but he assures that they've looked into it and it's not causing battery drain.
He went on to say Google is planning to send out an update very soon to patch a few bugs, including battery drain issue.
The gentleman sounded legit, but who knows. I hope it is true.
I urge y'all to call Google Tech Support and ask the same. Let's see if there's any consensus.
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I decided to call Google Tech support for the answer to ask whether the ear piece buzzing is causing battery drain. That's my only concern. I don't care if there's a buzz (the iPhone 4S had it, as did the GN, as do a few other phones).
And the fella I spoke with says the earpiece buzzing is not the father of your baby (/Maury mode) -- I mean, not causing battery drain.
He said it's a manufacturing defect and they'd be happy to send a replacement unit (I said, sure) but he assures that they've looked into it and it's not causing battery drain.
He went on to say Google is planning to send out an update very soon to patch a few bugs, including battery drain issue.
The gentleman sounded legit, but who knows. I hope it is true.
I urge y'all to call Google Tech Support and ask the same. Let's see if there's any consensus.
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Pretty certain he's correct,
Hasn't every nexus phone received a fast point release update that fixes a ton of things, improves performance and battery?
Doubt they would change that with the Nexus 4.
It would have been 4.2.1 but due to the December bug, it will have to be something else (4.2.2 probably lol)
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wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both. The second is usually a router issue, and the third is usually a combination of apps interacting or a cell phone that has too much crap installed that just needs a clean wipe.
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wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both. The second is usually a router issue, and the third is usually a combination of apps interacting or a cell phone that has too much crap installed that just needs a clean wipe.
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No.
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I don't think there is a battery drain issue. If you call it an upgrade that improves the battery then that's a different story.
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I don't think there is a battery drain issue. If you call it an upgrade that improves the battery then that's a different story.
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Exactly.
This isn't a widespread problem.
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Google also said USB otg was supposed to be on this phone. Look at where that went.
I voided my warranty.
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wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both.
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+1 on the "bad reception" part. I just got a signal booster from T-Mobile for my house (I work from home). Before installing it, my battery was generally around 10% by bedtime. The last two days it's been 40% and 50%. It's a very noticeable difference.
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+1 on the "bad reception" part. I just got a signal booster from T-Mobile for my house (I work from home). Before installing it, my battery was generally around 10% by bedtime. The last two days it's been 40% and 50%. It's a very noticeable difference.
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I'd love to get one of those but I don't want to shell out several hundred dollars.
Yeah. Android phones perform notoriously badly with low signal. I lost 30% at work in 1 hour because it kept trying to sync. Compare that with usually going home with 40% left.
Anyway I'm not saying battery can't be improved on this phone. But there really isn't a drain issue present.
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This would be nice though to get that update soon. 4.2.2 I'm guessing.
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There is no battery drain issue.
Learn how to control what is running in the background.
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I hope they raise the damn thermal throttle too.
I hope they respond to USB OTG.
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There is no battery drain issue.
Learn how to control what is running in the background.
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Then how would you explain that most nexus 4 drain over 2-5% per hour while idling around doing nothing?
And how about you fix, for example, the msm_hsic_host wakelock that's active up to 50% of the standby time? Come on, I'm sure you can do it with killing background apps!
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Then how would you explain that most nexus 4 drain over 2-5% per hour while idling around doing nothing?
And how about you fix, for example, the msm_hsic_host wakelock that's active up to 50% of the standby time? Come on, I'm sure you can do it with killing background apps!
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Mines don't have a 2-5% drain per hour. But then again, I am on a custom rom and kernel.
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I'd love to get one of those but I don't want to shell out several hundred dollars.
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It's free...just make sure to return it when you are done with Tmo.
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Mines don't have a 2-5% drain per hour. But then again, I am on a custom rom and kernel.
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Yes, custom ROMs are already addressing certain issues. the battery drain and other stuff are definitely present in the stock firmware.
Guys, there are a lot of battery issues threads & guides & faqs and whatever on XDA. Look, for example, for one in my signature. Though it's for my previous device, most of things are still relevant.
Hi
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wtf is this "battery drain issue?"
For as long as smartphones have existed, people think there are:
- Battery drain issues
- Wifi issues
- Freezing issues
Most of the time the first is caused by a rogue app or bad reception or a combination of both. The second is usually a router issue, and the third is usually a combination of apps interacting or a cell phone that has too much crap installed that just needs a clean wipe.
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There certainly is an issue which I've been suffering. Note in my case there is nothing recorded in the usual battery usage statistics to pin point any problem.
I found overnight and excessive daytime power drain in my case is because the CPU isn't entering deep sleep (using CPU Spy). Typically deep sleep should be in the 90 plus percentage range of all states. In my case it was spending 90% or more in the 384MHz state, so it was never really sleeping, and hadn't entered deep sleep at all, it was an unused state! This causes two problems, one, even though the CPU power drain is small, it adds up over the course of a night or day and eats power, and two, it also means the OS is up and running, so all applications are alive and any app that wants to ping home, download some ads or sync is free to do so which means the cell connection is constantly being kept active trickling packets of data back and forth, causing even more power drain.
Yes an application that has permission to stop the phone from sleeping is often the cause, in my case however battery stats showed no application keeping the phone awake, so I was baffled.
After a lot of troubleshooting I think it might be an issue with applications writing to the emulated SD card, perhaps keeping a file handle open, and this stops the phone entering deep-sleep at a low level in the kernel. As it is happening deeper down outside of Android it doesn't need an application with a keep awake permission to keep the phone awake, and also evades androids battery stats.
In my case I was running Bootlog Uptime, a small app with no permission to keep the phone awake but it does have permission to modify the contents on the SD card and I assume updating a log file on the SD card during the period the phone is awake, probably in order to detect a crash. As soon as this was uninstalled, even without restarting, my phone started deep sleeping.
Now overnight in flight mode it started out with 82% battery, and 9 hours later still had 82% battery! Now out of flight mode, it's been on for a few hours and has just dropped down to 81%.
Note that his application is running happily on a Nexus 7 and HTC One X without causing any issues, hence I think there is some driver in the kernel for the Nexus 4 that is incorrectly refusing to allow the CPU to deep sleep if it sees some activity in the flash memory.
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Hello, I new in Note and I just did battery calibration with battery calibration app. I was playing GTA VC about 50minutes and get about 40percent battery drop. Im with Slim Bean latest ROM and hydracore latest kernel , on lowest brightness and on 1ghz CPU speed. But I think is battery drain, how think you?
looks like screen was on for around 2 hrs and it dropped from 100 to 40 %.. looks ok to me though
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looks like screen was on for around 2 hrs and it dropped from 100 to 40 %.. looks ok to me though
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So I can use my Note just for 4hours with screen on? Its not very long :/
Yes. Seems that's the full screen on time
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No, you can extend screen on time by doing nothing on the phone. But you have to make it so the screen wont turn off after X amount of seconds/minutes..
well you can switch of mobile network and wifi, screen brightness, that will give you more. But generally no. The battery is small compared to fullscale tablets, but they dont pack a mobile network that uses a lot of energy.
Im always switched off mobile data, use lowest screen brightness, sometimes little check up emails with wifi, play little games and it last about 4 hours screen time on.
50mins playing VC and 40% battery drop...? No need to worry it's rather normal
I just asking because I new in high screens phones and now I understand that it takes alot of battery power for screen like this
I walso want to ask is it normal that when I charging my note with original wall charger, phone in charging mode is automaticaly little warmer, like 2-5 C more like not charging. and also games feels little laggy when charging and also for example when I play order and chaos with mobile data on not charging phone it gets ~45C warm but when charging it become 59-60 C hot Is it bad? does it gonna fry little bit?
lol what kernrl are your running
Play airport city game for 1hour and u will get 65 percent battery drop.... With a temperature 65'C and then connect your charger... It will say unable to charge due to high temperature....
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lol what kernrl are your running
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Im using kernel that we can not tell. You know, that bad kernel for xda
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Play airport city game for 1hour and u will get 65 percent battery drop.... With a temperature 65'C and then connect your charger... It will say unable to charge due to high temperature....
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I just worried about that high temp, i dont want burn it xD
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Im always switched off mobile data, use lowest screen brightness, sometimes little check up emails with wifi, play little games and it last about 4 hours screen time on.
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What are you doing 4 hours screen on without internet????
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What are you doing 4 hours screen on without internet????
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little games, sometimes taking notes, sms, calls.
Is idle drain still a problem after people have rooted and frozen bloat apps? Here is a screen shot of good idle drain from an HTC one mini. 3% in 9 hours.
When I had an X and a Droid Mini, they lost 10-15% in that same time period, despite showing 98% deep sleep in better battery stats. And they were setup exactly the same as the one mini.
Anybody with an X getting anything close to as good as what I posted?
And for those who want to say "who cares," the point is that idle drain overnight is indicative of idle drain during the day. Bad idle drain is a symptom of other problems and poor optimization by Motorola, imo, and it concerns me.
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My idle drain is comparable to what you posted. I went to bed at about midnight with a full charge and now it's 7 and I'm at 98%.
I don't really notice it. I charge overnight and it lasts through the entire day and into the late evenings (8-11pm). When you're getting 5 hours of screen time, I think the optimization is working lol.
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My idle drain is comparable to what you posted. I went to bed at about midnight with a full charge and now it's 7 and I'm at 98%.
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Did you do anything to the qualcom running process like someone else did? I thought we were supposed to leave that one alone. Curious now
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Did you do anything to the qualcom running process like someone else did? I thought we were supposed to leave that one alone. Curious now
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Nope, haven't touched it. It doesn't give me any issues.
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Nope, haven't touched it. It doesn't give me any issues.
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Thanks! I'm pretty sure my setup is mimicking yours. I do have xposed installed for motoxposed but I'm still on the fence whether it's causing any slow downs or not.
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Thanks! I'm pretty sure my setup is mimicking yours. I do have xposed installed for motoxposed but I'm still on the fence whether it's causing any slow downs or not.
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Are you seeing excessive idle drain? Metal head is about the only person I've seen posting good things about idle drain. I'm tempted to buy another X now that we have root, but seeing 15% drain in 8 or 9 hours of idle just bothers me to no end for some reason.
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Just out of curiosity, do those who get excessive drain leave their phone face up or face down during long idle times?
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Just out of curiosity, do those who get excessive drain leave their phone face up or face down during long idle times?
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I actually tested this and for me it did not make a difference. In fact, turning off active notifications did not affect idle drain either--it was excessive either way.
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Just out of curiosity, do those who get excessive drain leave their phone face up or face down during long idle times?
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Also I would add that I think this problem affects most X owners, even though some (or most) will never notice. The battery threads show that pretty much EVERYBODY has higher than normal android OS use, due to the kernel according to gsam battery monitor. I think that is what's responsible for the drain, and personally I couldn't get it to go down even when I disabled everything. Android OS simply should not be the #2 battery drain behind screen, and it almost universally is on the X and the new Droids.
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Also I would add that I think this problem affects most X owners, even though some (or most) will never notice. The battery threads show that pretty much EVERYBODY has higher than normal android OS use, due to the kernel according to gsam battery monitor. I think that is what's responsible for the drain, and personally I couldn't get it to go down even when I disabled everything. Android OS simply should not be the #2 battery drain behind screen, and it almost universally is on the X and the new Droids.
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My Android OS drain is significantly lower now than it was before I froze everything. We're talking 11% vs 62% for the screen.
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Are you seeing excessive idle drain? Metal head is about the only person I've seen posting good things about idle drain. I'm tempted to buy another X now that we have root, but seeing 15% drain in 8 or 9 hours of idle just bothers me to no end for some reason.
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Nope, just always looking at finding better batt life. Last avg was 0.7% drain overnight. Just did a complete reinstall of the OS, root, and freeze. Going to see what happens tonight. Also hoping my moto assist starts working.
Is your wifi & mobile network access enabled under location access? That also causes drain, seemingly constantly. As far as I know, that is a bug with Google services and isn't unique to the X, but most prevalent in 4.2+ devices.
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Is your wifi & mobile network access enabled under location access? That also causes drain, seemingly constantly. As far as I know, that is a bug with Google services and isn't unique to the X, but most prevalent in 4.2+ devices.
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always. If I turn this off google now and anything else that needs GPS stops functioning. takes too long to get a gps lock without.