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a NEW 4.2 version? OTA Updates suck

I rec'd my Nexus 7 Tab a couple of weeks ago. Immediately there was a flurry of updates landing me at 4.2. Today I rec'd notice there a new update had been downloaded and was ready to install! The new version? 4.2.
After reading some of the woes others have experienced with 4.2, I'm wondering if I have a "different" version of 4.2 (that works just fine.)
The constant stream of OTA updates is a pain in the arse. Can we get on a 3 month release cycle?
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December bug fix they had to release before December started hence the update, it isnt usually that frequent.

webrover83 said:
I rec'd my Nexus 7 Tab a couple of weeks ago. Immediately there was a flurry of updates landing me at 4.2. Today I rec'd notice there a new update had been downloaded and was ready to install! The new version? 4.2.
After reading some of the woes others have experienced with 4.2, I'm wondering if I have a "different" version of 4.2 (that works just fine.)
The constant stream of OTA updates is a pain in the arse. Can we get on a 3 month release cycle?
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An Android user complaining about too many updates? Mind=Blown

Nospin said:
An Android user complaining about too many updates? Mind=Blown
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Sign up with Verizon. You will be lucky to ever get another Android update.

Is this a serious thread? You're actually complaining about updates?
You do realise that these updates improve your device (new features & bugfixes). Are they really that much of an inconvenience for you?
10 whole minutes of downtime. The horror!

Yeah buy any android device that doesn't have "nexus" in the name and you won't have to worry about android updates anymore...
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How many of these threads do we need?

locking this. There are plenty of OTA threads to post in guys...

Leaked Release Date for 4.3

According to this article on Android Police, AT&T is scheduled to officially release 4.3 for the S4 Active on Christmas Eve (12/24). This is just a leaked schedule so take that with a grain of salt, it could be sooner but more than likely it will be later. If you would like to try out a leaked pre-release of 4.3 for the S4 Active you can download it from this thread. Just remember that if you flash the leaked version of 4.3 you probably won't be able to get updates when 4.3 is officially released as has happened in the past.

Devo7v said:
According to this article on Android Police, AT&T is scheduled to officially release 4.3 for the S4 Active on Christmas Eve (12/24). This is just a leaked schedule so take that with a grain of salt, it could be sooner but more than likely it will be later. If you would like to try out a leaked pre-release of 4.3 for the S4 Active you can download it from this thread. Just remember that if you flash the leaked version of 4.3 you probably won't be able to get updates when 4.3 is officially released as has happened in the past.
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Lol 12/24 is 2 months out.... I been sitting on the AOSP thinking I only had to wait till the end of October to get on the official release..... Looks like I will be running the 4.3 leak now.... By the time 4.3 is official on the S4 Active it will be obsolete.... Sweet. Thanks

I'm normally not patient, but 4.3 Doesn't have anything that I have been chomping at the bit for, so I will call it a Christmas Present. Yay!

APeter001 said:
I'm normally not patient, but 4.3 Doesn't have anything that I have been chomping at the bit for, so I will call it a Christmas Present. Yay!
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I'm not seeing anything on 4.3 that makes me want to upgrade either. I would be wary of the official update though because I'm almost positive there are going to be issues rooting it which would cause problems with SafeStrap. If SafeStrap ever gets kexec working I doubt I will ever accept an official update.
I'm not sure where exactly this guy got his information, but his post seems to suggest that taking the new 4.3 update will make rooting exponentially harder.

Devo7v said:
I'm not seeing anything on 4.3 that makes me want to upgrade either. I would be wary of the official update though because I'm almost positive there are going to be issues rooting it which would cause problems with SafeStrap. If SafeStrap ever gets kexec working I doubt I will ever accept an official update.
I'm not sure where exactly this guy got his information, but his post seems to suggest that taking the new 4.3 update will make rooting exponentially harder.
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Yeah I have automatic updates disabled since I rooted the phone and will wait until some other rooted beta tester makes sure it works and doesn't break root.

November 12th is the official release date
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myofrost said:
November 12th is the official release date
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Do you have a link to that? I can't seem to find that date anywhere. The closest thing I've been able to find is that the regular AT&T S4 is getting the 4.3 update on November 13th.

Devo7v said:
Do you have a link to that? I can't seem to find that date anywhere. The closest thing I've been able to find is that the regular AT&T S4 is getting the 4.3 update on November 13th.
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Yep, people are confusing the S4 with the S4 Active again.

Release date
What is the release date?

mnaumanali said:
What is the release date?
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You need to search and read. It's one of the basic principles of XDA and you'll find people saying that over and over.
For example if you start reading this thread from the beginning you might find your answer.

Well not to be an ass, but this thread mentions three different dates. So the question may have been for clarification purposes.
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4.4.3 changelog posted on AOSP

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...osp-with-every-modification-since-kitkat-4-4/

OMG yes!
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Yeaah babbyy! I guess the everyday updates of Google Apps is not just a coincidence?
Well, let's hope for the best!

So does the time of release of an update correlate to posting a changelog to AOSP? Like in the past how long has passed between changelog and update hitting 100% of phones? I am still assuming they are using IO to announce the release for some reason.

vin4yak said:
Yeaah babbyy! I guess the everyday updates of Google Apps is not just a coincidence?
Well, let's hope for the best!
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Probably is coincidence since they've been updating each Google app multiple times for the past few weeks. Remember there's a tablet going to be released soon so that probably is why we've had so many app updates too.
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This looks interesting...

FuMMoD said:
Probably is coincidence since they've been updating each Google app multiple times for the past few weeks. Remember there's a tablet going to be released soon so that probably is why we've had so many app updates too.
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You had to spoil the party, didn't you? (pun intended)
Well, you could be right here though! All we can do is wait :fingers-crossed:

I is excite.

Finally, never been on stock that long. Just see press 50 times a day software update.

Evo_Shift said:
So does the time of release of an update correlate to posting a changelog to AOSP? Like in the past how long has passed between changelog and update hitting 100% of phones? I am still assuming they are using IO to announce the release for some reason.
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I think this KitKat update is coming before Google I/O conference in June. Remember, back in March, Android 4.4.3 was first rumored for mid-April. U.S carrier Sprint even jumped the gun and posted 4.4.3 OTA update promise "now" in mid-April, then sheepishly had to remove it from their public pages a week later. Of course we are now well into the month of May... Not sure why the delay, but I still think it's coming before I/O.
But I think 4.4.3 is minor bug squasher KitKat update that will come before the NEXT Android release with the Nexus 8 tablet announcement at the I/O conference in LATE June (June 25 - 26). Remember product "announcement" does not mean "release". Nexus 8 tablet and next version of Android will be announced at END of June, then will probably be released sometime in July.
Whatever is announced at end of June I/O will NOT show up before July. I just can't see this 4.4.3 waiting until JULY.

It's getting close to I/O ,the 4.4.3 ota is still not released....
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AidenLee1228 said:
It's getting close to I/O ,the 4.4.3 ota is still not released....
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Yes, but 4.4.3 will still probably come before then (I/O is June 25) -- because whatever is ANNOUNCED at I/O will not be RELEASED until July. We are now in the first week of May. 4.4.3 could still be released next week as bug squasher update.
Then in late June at I/O, Nexus 8 tablet and next version of Android ANNOUNCED. Then in July Nexus 8 tablet ships with NEW version of Android, the one AFTER 4.4.3.
I just can't see Google waiting TWO MORE MONTHS to release a basic bug fix update. So far from the changelog, that's all 4.4.3 is. Surely with Nexus 8 tablet they will want at least a couple new features as selling points.
Also U.S. Sprint wouldn't have posted the 4.4.3 announcement page back in mid-April if the release wasn't imminent. Sure they jumped the gun, but they were apparently led to believe it was coming then. I still think it's coming before May is over, due to flurry of Google app updates.

Evo_Shift said:
So does the time of release of an update correlate to posting a changelog to AOSP?
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No, because Google never posted a changelog to AOSP before. While it is exciting, the changelog was posted 3 weeks ago and hardly means anything is imminent. Plus, the changelog is very flawed in that it shows all changes since 4.4 not the last release. It seems the posting to AOSP was an accident I would imagine.

AidenLee1228 said:
It's getting close to I/O ,the 4.4.3 ota is still not released....
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You say

As post here. If you dig into the code as someone else did, sheds some light on possible future phone and tablets.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ed-molly-appears-android-4-4-3-changelog.html
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Duffmantp said:
As post here. If you dig into the code as someone else did, sheds some light on possible future phone and tablets.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ed-molly-appears-android-4-4-3-changelog.html
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Not what I wanted to post. I want to delete that post.

So the build that will supposedly be the release build was built on March 11? Dayum Google! 9 weeks of testing and counting for a freaking point release? You need to hire more QA people Google. What, are like 2 dudes responsible for testing the entire OS? The f...

ChazzMatt said:
Also U.S. Sprint wouldn't have posted the 4.4.3 announcement page back in mid-April if the release wasn't imminent. Sure they jumped the gun, but they were apparently led to believe it was coming then. I still think it's coming before May is over, due to flurry of Google app updates.
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When has sprint ever released anything on time or been a reliable source??
I'm sure most of us remember when the galaxy s3 came out waaayyy before their LTE/4g was ready. Just throwing that out there.
As for 4.4.3. All we can do is wait. Because it'll be dropped when we stop caring. Haha.
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travisd4est said:
When has sprint ever released anything on time or been a reliable source??
I'm sure most of us remember when the galaxy s3 came out waaayyy before their LTE/4g was ready. Just throwing that out there.
As for 4.4.3. All we can do is wait. Because it'll be dropped when we stop caring. Haha.
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Oh I don't know. It's not like Sprint RF engineers and testers have Spark enabled Nexus 5 running around for months which is explicitly included in the 4.4.3 update..
Fact is Google have to coordinate the rollout of 4.4.3 with their partners (carriers) to make sure the phone doesn't screw up anyones network. Google told the carriers (Sprint) that their update was ready and they're about the push it.
Sprint is notified and have confirmed that the update that is relevant for them (activation of band 26 / 41) is completed so they put the change log up. Google or one of the partners finds a problem and halts the rollout before it begin.
So now we all wait.

Did Google just take down the 4.4.3 changelog page? What the hell does that mean?
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CM-PRo said:
Did Google just take down the 4.4.3 changelog page? What the hell does that mean?
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Yup I get the error 404

4.4.3 is last update..??

Will Google ends support for 2 year old nexus 7..??
Can we see next major android version (4.5/5.0) for our grouper..??
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Official will probably stop when the last revision of KitKat is released. However no one really knows but Google. Worst case in a week after 4.5 or 5.0 is released (if those are to be believed) source will be pushed to AOSP and everyone here will be building ROMs.
I mean even my old Kindle Fire (otter) runs Pac-Man 4.4.2...
While my Nexus 5 and 7 (2012 grouper) are both running 4.4.3
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Bit dubious about post-Google updates myself. NVidia has no track record of being friendly to supporting the development community when they aren't forced to. Once Google stops providing binary blob updates, you can bet NVidia will forget that this tablet ever existed and developers will have nothing to work with to support future hardware upgrades.
Either that, or I'm still just a bit bitter over the Tegra 2 G2X.

lotherius said:
Bit dubious about post-Google updates myself. NVidia has no track record of being friendly to supporting the development community when they aren't forced to. Once Google stops providing binary blob updates, you can bet NVidia will forget that this tablet ever existed and developers will have nothing to work with to support future hardware upgrades.
Either that, or I'm still just a bit bitter over the Tegra 2 G2X.
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I hear you there
But I have hope
Our Nexus 7 will prevail through it all!

Maybe then we will have some brave soul working on Nvidia 3.4.35 kernel for tegra3
This can be a good starting point

this is the last update.....

Very likely the last update, though people don't have the same upgrade path for tablets that they do for phones, you won't necessarily change it as regularly.
It's not like your contract is up after 2 years and you get another one.
I'm not planning on getting another tablet any time soon, so longer support would be great, though I doubt it'll happen.
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Nexus 7 never received a useful update anyway.
Every single update made the tablet slower and more buggy.
So it is a good thing not to have updates anymore. Nothing to worry about there.

calyxim said:
Nexus 7 never received a useful update anyway.
Every single update made the tablet slower and more buggy.
So it is a good thing not to have updates anymore. Nothing to worry about there.
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I'd disagree as the 4.3 update was good adding TRIM which sped things up for my Nexus

JoshR8 said:
I'd disagree as the 4.3 update was good adding TRIM which sped things up for my Nexus
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:highfive: 4.3 was a very solid version. When I put my Nexus 4 back in daily driver service for a short while, 4.4 had been out for some time, but I went to 4.3 due to the reliability and smooth feel...

The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?

pharpe said:
The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?
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pharpe said:
The Nexus 7 is still in production. How can they stop supporting a device still in production?
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nexus 7 2013 is in production, not the 2012.

lotherius said:
nexus 7 2013 is in production, not the 2012.
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correct me if I'm wrong but you can still buy it in the Google Play Store
The Nexus 7 2012

USBhost said:
correct me if I'm wrong but you can still buy it in the Google Play Store
The Nexus 7 2012
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You're wrong.

You can still find Nexus 7 2012 for sale... not at Google Play, however.
IMHO - the last KitKat update will be the end of service life for Nexus 7 2012. N7 2013 will get through the L named release.

Looking very much like 4.4.3 will be the last 'official' update, based on the below news...
4.4.3 is running well on my N7, so can't complain too much, plus there are plenty of custom ROMs and mods to play with. Just wonder how this will affect future custom ROMs/ports as they will be created to run with ART and so possibly a no-go... :crying:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/breaking-next-major-version-of-android-to-finally-remove-dalvik-and-set-art-as-default/

I think we may get the 4.4.4
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images

USBhost said:
I think we may get the 4.4.4
https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
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We already got 4.4.4, the update is in that link . OTA is just a method to update, and it will come eventually

RusherDude said:
We already got 4.4.4, the update is in that link . OTA is just a method to update, and it will come eventually
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We only had the 4.4.3 only for a few weeks

nexus 6 - please help

i got today a new nexus 6
the software is android 5.0 build lnx09m
there is no update to 5.1 or 6.0
i tried to do hard reset and even now the is no update
i cant update manually beacuse i cant understant how to do it
please help me

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lidor578 said:
i got today a new nexus 6
the software is android 5.0 build lnx09m
there is no update to 5.1 or 6.0
i tried to do hard reset and even now the is no update
i cant update manually beacuse i cant understant how to do it
please help me
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To get the builds go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/ref-nexus-6-stock-ota-urls-t2906493
Your build is at the very bottom, if you are wanting to do the OTA updates.
You will need to follow the path up on the builds so
LRX21O from LNX07M
LRX22C from LRX21O
LMY47D from LRX22C
and so on...
But the key to this is how to apply the updates...
Goto https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfDSZsr6230 and watch that video. You will need the Nexus Root toolkit from wugfresh.com
It shows you how to sideload the files one by one. I was also stuck with no OTAs from verizon.

So I may have already goofed. I bought a Project Fi Nexus 6 and want to use it on Verizon now. I don't remember what build I was originally on but last night when tooling around, I have gone to LRX22C from whatever I had before. I thought I would be able to get OTAs on my unrooted/relocked phone but everytime I check for one - nothing happens, it says my phone is up to date but clearly it isn't as LRX22C isn't even 5.1.
Do I have to follow the path using WUGfresh or can I just jump clear up to the universal Marshmallow build and be okay?

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So I may have already goofed. I bought a Project Fi Nexus 6 and want to use it on Verizon now. I don't remember what build I was originally on but last night when tooling around, I have gone to LRX22C from whatever I had before. I thought I would be able to get OTAs on my unrooted/relocked phone but everytime I check for one - nothing happens, it says my phone is up to date but clearly it isn't as LRX22C isn't even 5.1.
Do I have to follow the path using WUGfresh or can I just jump clear up to the universal Marshmallow build and be okay?
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If you are on verizon, I could not get any OTA's to work and I was on LMY47E.
If you want to go to MRA58K then I would follow the chain. Else you will probably have to wipe all data on you phone.
LRX22C is One step below LMY47E for Verizon.
I did a whole post on how I got it up to MRA58K over here
jdice

Skip the OTAs. Download MRA58K, extract all files, flash all imgs except for userdata. Voila! You're on Marshmallow with all of your data saved.
Learn how to do things manually and magic like this can happen.

Well, no one told me that I had to do all those shananigans to cover for Googles crap...
Ill probably just return the damn phone and get an iphone... at least the updates there are really like they should, not this crap, this false advertising Nexus devices are updated fast and automatically...
Also, let me talk to my clients, the ones that also bought nexus 6 from the store where I work, some of them with 50, 60+ years, and tell them they have to Download MRA58K, extract all files, flash all imgs except for userdata... I guess they aill all be thrilled at how easy the process is when compared to other phones...
Really guys, get a grip for god sake, not everyone wants to be bothered by such things.
Also, this posts are here to bring attention to a situation happening to alot of people, which is updates not available as OTA on phones, even old updates. If any of us wanted to sideload it or flash it we would have done it already since there 10000's of posts explaning it right... I wouldnt actually need for "nhizzat" to explain it to me!

tryklon said:
Well, no one told me that I had to do all those shananigans to cover for Googles crap...
Ill probably just return the damn phone and get an iphone... at least the updates there are really like they should, not this crap, this false advertising Nexus devices are updated fast and automatically...
Also, let me talk to my clients, the ones that also bought nexus 6 from the store where I work, some of them with 50, 60+ years, and tell them they have to Download MRA58K, extract all files, flash all imgs except for userdata... I guess they aill all be thrilled at how easy the process is when compared to other phones...
Really guys, get a grip for god sake, not everyone wants to be bothered by such things.
Also, this posts are here to bring attention to a situation happening to alot of people, which is updates not available as OTA on phones, even old updates. If any of us wanted to sideload it or flash it we would have done it already since there 10000's of posts explaning it right... I wouldnt actually need for "nhizzat" to explain it to me!
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That's not something you have to do, it's an option. It's also one of the reasons we buy a Nexus, to be able to update manually instead of waiting.
If it's not something you're interested in doing, keep waiting. Or return the phone and enjoy your iPhone. I, for one, don't care if you do nor if you convince your 50+ clients to do the same.

I thought you've bought a more than a year old phone because it was cheap, but still had good specs. Amiright?
So if it sat on a shelf for more than a year, why should it have the latest software? Also why should anybody care that it's not the month old Marshmallow on it? Go and complain on iPhone-not-developers that you can't install iOS9 on a 3G.
This is XDA developers and not the Google support hotline. Here people give you solutions for free, too bad that it's above your skills to try it yourself, but then at least don't be rude to those who try to help.
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You could at least read the damn thread no? The OP said its not getting the old 5.1. update... he mentioned 6.0 but he said he is still on 5.0
I know for a fact that update 5.1.1 is more than available but he is stuck on 5.0.... get it?

tryklon said:
You could at least read the damn thread no? The OP said its not getting the old 5.1. update... he mentioned 6.0 but he said he is still on 5.0
I know for a fact that update 5.1.1 is more than available but he is stuck on 5.0.... get it?
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I did read it. And I didn't understand your anger then, I don't get it now either.
To a 50, 60+ user as you said it, it really doesn't matter if it's 5.0 or 5.1 or 6.0. It matters to you. And if you can't flash it yourself, then take it to a GSM shop, they'll do it for you. Perhaps they'll look at you funny if you say you read about it here.
As for the OTAs, instead of ranting here, you should ask Google support if it's something wrong with their servers.
Edit: I've bought mine cca two montha ago, and itcame with 5.1, and I've got an OTA immediately. Maybe there's something wrong with the updates from 5.0. A lot of people have bought N6s now because of the great price, maybe they'll notice the bug and fix it.
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tryklon said:
Well, no one told me that I had to do all those shananigans to cover for Googles crap...
Ill probably just return the damn phone and get an iphone... at least the updates there are really like they should, not this crap, this false advertising Nexus devices are updated fast and automatically...
Also, let me talk to my clients, the ones that also bought nexus 6 from the store where I work, some of them with 50, 60+ years, and tell them they have to Download MRA58K, extract all files, flash all imgs except for userdata... I guess they aill all be thrilled at how easy the process is when compared to other phones...
Really guys, get a grip for god sake, not everyone wants to be bothered by such things.
Also, this posts are here to bring attention to a situation happening to alot of people, which is updates not available as OTA on phones, even old updates. If any of us wanted to sideload it or flash it we would have done it already since there 10000's of posts explaning it right... I wouldnt actually need for "nhizzat" to explain it to me!
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Yes, you seem like an iPhone type person. Psychologically speaking.

Let me guess, one of the 30% of new iPhone users they have been advertising as Android deserters? Not yet, maybe next year, but maybe this actually shows something, and why people go to them... reliability

tryklon said:
Let me guess, one of the 30% of new iPhone users they have been advertising as Android deserters? Not yet, maybe next year, but maybe this actually shows something, and why people go to them... reliability
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Great, you found your new love. Bye.
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So I've used Googled a bit (pun intended), and found out that there was some hickups with the n6 and n9 OTAs to 5.1.1, so probably if your device doesn't show updates it's intentional.
OTAs only want to install if your device only has genuine factory contents. So the the update checks everything from recovery to system, and if all checksums match they apply the update. However, sometimes the update died mid update, and from then on either the phone didn't start, or it did, but remained mostly unchanged, but since some files were replaced refused to update.
So I say patience, it's possible the OTAs will be available when they fix this. But for those who came here to XDA to learn, it's easy to do it manually.