Hi,
Now that several custom Roms are out with init.d support does anyone know of a script that can be used with script manager to swap internal and external at boot?
I have a 512 GB SD card rigged inside of my 10000 MAH battery on my phone. Just need to swap the two so I can have unlimited space for games.
If you have a working script and share I will give you $50
Where did you get a 512 GB micro SD I thought they only went up to 128 gb
SD, not micro SD... Hadn't thought of trying something like that! Kudos.
jhax01 said:
SD, not micro SD... Hadn't thought of trying something like that! Kudos.
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Yes I bought one from Sandisk full sized SD. Then you buy a SD to micro SD adapter off Ebay and you can use it.
https://www.google.com/search?q=SD+...%2Fsdmicro-to-sd-card-adapter%2F11922;800;600
That is the one I use
Combined with a flexible extended battery case it actually fits in nice and snug. Basically a god mode phone
512 GBs works like a charm.
Just need a good script to install all my apps there.
I have used folder mount in the past but even when using folder mount your internal memory slowly fills up...and eventually even with moving all files possible you run into an issue where you have 0 space on internal memory and tons on the SD.
I really wish they would not restrict Android this way
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SD, not micro SD... Hadn't thought of trying something like that! Kudos.
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I've seen a few how tos with the SD card and ribbon cable. Quite simple yet ingenious really!
Trev186 said:
Yes I bought one from Sandisk full sized SD. Then you buy a SD to micro SD adapter off Ebay and you can use it.
https://www.google.com/search?q=SD+...%2Fsdmicro-to-sd-card-adapter%2F11922;800;600
That is the one I use
Combined with a flexible extended battery case it actually fits in nice and snug. Basically a god mode phone
512 GBs works like a charm.
Just need a good script to install all my apps there.
I have used folder mount in the past but even when using folder mount your internal memory slowly fills up...and eventually even with moving all files possible you run into an issue where you have 0 space on internal memory and tons on the SD.
I really wish they would not restrict Android this way
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Yeah I know how you feel... I use the Xposed module called XInternalSD on mine. I used to use a init.d script that did it on my Note 2 with 4.12 but got lazy and grabbed the Xposed module on this phone. But wow! A 512 GB SD card is crazy! I thought I had alot of crap and am planning on grabbing a 128. Your setup and the whole ribbon deal I had completely forgot about. Might end up reconsidering :good: I wonder if a Init.d script would still work since KitKat and changing the storage writing etc. I'll look further into this tonight. No need for money although that is very generous though. Not sure how I feel about developing and donations. I kinda feel like we do this stuff for fun and not profit but oh well. I'm not against it but personally don't think I could do that personally. Of course, I've never done anything to extravagant here anyways. Modded some roms, themes, hacks, etc. but nothing too fancy. I'll post back here if I find anything worth mentioning. XInternalSD works nicely though. The path is to internal card should be /storage/extSdCard on the settings part of the app. The init.d script should look something like this:
sleep 10
mount -o remount,rw /
mount -t vfat -o umask=0000 /dev/block/vold/179:49 /storage/sdcard0
sleep 30
mount -o bind /data/media /storage/extSdCard
chmod 777 /mnt/extSdCard
sleep 10
chown 1023:1023 /storage/extSdCard
chown 1000:1000 /storage/sdcard0
That's from my old one. Please don't use that lol! I just got to find the new value for the Note 4. It's either 179:64 or 179:65.... Hmmm... Not sure if anything else is needed since KitKat is different. [email protected] lol!
sino8r said:
I've seen a few how tos with the SD card and ribbon cable. Quite simple yet ingenious really!
Yeah I know how you feel... I use the Xposed module called XInternalSD on mine. I used to use a init.d script that did it but got lazy and grabbed the Xposed module on this phone. But wow! A 512 GB SD card is crazy! I thought I had alot of crap and am planning on grabbing a 128. Your setup and the whole ribbon deal I had completely forgot about. Might need up reconsidering :good:
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how does xinternalSD work?
If I already have apps installed will it move everything to the SD that is already on the phone?
If I set it to do all apps will it run stay persistent through restarts so the phone always looks there or is a script needed?
I am not fond of foldermount it is clunky and as i said before it is possible to move all the apps off the SD card and still have the internal memory fill up. Plus there is the issue of internal memory filling up with non app stuff and then the phone refusing to let u install anything new from play store due to the apps not having enough space on the phone supposedly.
there must be a way to do a swap....
Trev186 said:
how does xinternalSD work?
If I already have apps installed will it move everything to the SD that is already on the phone?
If I set it to do all apps will it run stay persistent through restarts so the phone always looks there or is a script needed?
I am not fond of foldermount it is clunky and as i said before it is possible to move all the apps off the SD card and still have the internal memory fill up. Plus there is the issue of internal memory filling up with non app stuff and then the phone refusing to let u install anything new from play store due to the apps not having enough space on the phone supposedly.
there must be a way to do a swap....
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I think it's just a fancy app to emulate that script storage swap. You should just try those two values I gave ya. I'm sure one of them will work. As far as some space on internal being eaten up... It seems unavoidable but it(the module or script) does help alot. I just got my device a couple of weeks ago and have been weeding through my old apps and what I want to keep etc. I'm an app hoarder apparently like yourself Anyways, so far the module seems to be keeping internal clean. It's worth a shot especially seeing all the work you put into making a giant storage space for yourself. I have to say I'm a bit jealous. Might have to get myself an early Christmas gift lol!
Oh I'm sorry. I forgot one part. Apparently if I remember correctly you don't want to have internal fill up too much or apps won't install like you said. Android internal requires 10% of available storage space to available or sh!t won't sync or install etc. So I totally understand. The problem is that now that storage is larger these days... 10% could be several GBs worth of space which is really stupid. If I were you... I'd try the Xposed module first and see if anything is moved. I kind of doubt it. You could move it manually with one of those apps you mentioned. There are quite a few up there if you don't like your current clunky one. I'll probably fiddle with those values on the init.d script soon if I get some more free time. I gotta do some more research and what exactly was changed with KitKat. I had been using 4.1.2 until very recently lol!
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I think it's just a fancy app to emulate that script storage swap. You should just try those two values I gave ya. I'm sure one of them will work. As far as some space on internal being eaten up... It seems unavoidable but it(the module or script) does help alot. I just got my device a couple of weeks ago and have been weeding through my old apps and what I want to keep etc. I'm an app hoarder apparently like yourself Anyways, so far the module seems to be keeping internal clean. It's worth a shot especially seeing all the work you put into making a giant storage space for yourself. I have to say I'm a bit jealous. Might have to get myself an early Christmas gift lol!
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yeah once i am done with the 4 hour transfeer of the contents of my card to PC so I can safely screw around with it & not wipe it I will try a few things out with the scripts and modules.
I dont understand why Google makes it so hard to do this. They obviously took away the loop holes a lot of people used to do use to prevent it.
Hell I think they are insane for trying to kill off SD cards. The rate this industry has updated the internal storage vs the demands of game apps which come out is stupid...
The best phones are mainly for games, Highest downloaded apps games, apps people spend on most game...
games need memory. I could wipe out this 32 GB of storage with 10 games if I were selective. In this day and age that is just dumb.
Jack the price of the phone up...I paid $800 for my 512 GB SD card....obviously there is a demand for it. Hell a 128 Gb or 64 GB internal memory in the states would sell better then these 4 GB budget phones the industry spits out
majority of people i know who use smartphones use them for facebook, instgram, the camera and a few other social apps and maybe angry birds....
For these people to need these beefy processors and ram and it is overkill.
Trev186 said:
yeah once i am done with the 4 hour transfeer of the contents of my card to PC so I can safely screw around with it & not wipe it I will try a few things out with the scripts and modules.
I dont understand why Google makes it so hard to do this. They obviously took away the loop holes a lot of people used to do use to prevent it.
Hell I think they are insane for trying to kill off SD cards. The rate this industry has updated the internal storage vs the demands of game apps which come out is stupid...
The best phones are mainly for games, Highest downloaded apps games, apps people spend on most game...
games need memory. I could wipe out this 32 GB of storage with 10 games if I were selective. In this day and age that is just dumb.
Jack the price of the phone up...I paid $800 for my 512 GB SD card....obviously there is a demand for it. Hell a 128 Gb or 64 GB internal memory in the states would sell better then these 4 GB budget phones the industry spits out
majority of people i know who use smartphones use them for facebook, instgram, the camera and a few other social apps and maybe angry birds....
For these people to need these beefy processors and ram and it is overkill.
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Exactly... I think since Google is pushing certain criteria on their own phones that they want to do so on the rest. In turn they have really stunted their own Nexus devices with lack of removable battery and storage. It's insane. And the beefier cpu/gpu/ram doesn't help if you don't have the Storage to run those games, apps, etc. Very happy Samsung hasn't done away with it yet... I think they realize they have the edge on all other phones because of this. The solutions are so simple it just blows my mind that few others get it. I think they are just trying to monetize on the whole situation by forcing us to buy the phones with larger storage. It's just wrong though. Screw over folks too much and you'll lose customers. Some don't get it until it's too late. Keep us filled in with how it goes. I'll check back here once I play with the script some.
sino8r said:
I've seen a few how tos with the SD card and ribbon cable. Quite simple yet ingenious really!
Yeah I know how you feel... I use the Xposed module called XInternalSD on mine. I used to use a init.d script that did it on my Note 2 with 4.12 but got lazy and grabbed the Xposed module on this phone. But wow! A 512 GB SD card is crazy! I thought I had alot of crap and am planning on grabbing a 128. Your setup and the whole ribbon deal I had completely forgot about. Might end up reconsidering :good: I wonder if a Init.d script would still work since KitKat and changing the storage writing etc. I'll look further into this tonight. No need for money although that is very generous though. Not sure how I feel about developing and donations. I kinda feel like we do this stuff for fun and not profit but oh well. I'm not against it but personally don't think I could do that personally. Of course, I've never done anything to extravagant here anyways. Modded some roms, themes, hacks, etc. but nothing too fancy. I'll post back here if I find anything worth mentioning. XInternalSD works nicely though. The path is to internal card should be /storage/extSdCard on the settings part of the app. The init.d script should look something like this:
sleep 10
mount -o remount,rw /
mount -t vfat -o umask=0000 /dev/block/vold/179:49 /storage/sdcard0
sleep 30
mount -o bind /data/media /storage/extSdCard
chmod 777 /mnt/extSdCard
sleep 10
chown 1023:1023 /storage/extSdCard
chown 1000:1000 /storage/sdcard0
That's from my old one. Please don't use that lol! I just got to find the new value for the Note 4. It's either 179:64 or 179:65.... Hmmm... Not sure if anything else is needed since KitKat is different. [email protected] lol!
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If it helps I think the external SD is 179:65 since while messing around with another app it claimed that 179:65 appeared to be formatted as exfat which is the format of my SD card. I think the internal storage is formatted differently.
I know with the Note 2 there was a script you could run and set it for boot every-time that would swap the two.
http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-n...sd-card-with-rooted-galaxy-note-2-app2sd-mod/
If someone can go ahead and make it possible for the note 4 that'd be great.
XxLostSoulxX said:
I know with the Note 2 there was a script you could run and set it for boot every-time that would swap the two.
http://galaxynote2root.com/galaxy-n...sd-card-with-rooted-galaxy-note-2-app2sd-mod/
If someone can go ahead and make it possible for the note 4 that'd be great.
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Yeah that's basically it what I posted. I've just got to place around with it first.
I've been playing around with values and haven't quite figured it out yet. The mounts are different, vold, and chown. I've changed a few different things here & there but no luck yet. I'll post it here or a redirect if I get it working.
sino8r said:
Yeah that's basically it what I posted. I've just got to place around with it first.
I've been playing around with values and haven't quite figured it out yet. The mounts are different, vold, and chown. I've changed a few different things here & there but no luck yet. I'll post it here or a redirect if I get it working.
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Any luck? I have tried but no avail.
I did manage to get the ext storage to disappear a few times though lol.
Trev186 said:
Any luck? I have tried but no avail.
I did manage to get the ext storage to disappear a few times though lol.
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Yeah I basically gave up. Keep getting FCing even with the correct settings. Did you try the Xposed module? It works nicely. Plus, I noticed they brought back move app to SD function which I might end up using on my larger apps. Not sure what else I can do. I may do some searching in the S5 threads. There's one particular mod I'd like to look at as well. It's a version of the download Booster that works with HSPA and lower MB threshold. That would be VERY HANDY to have working on our device!
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Yeah I basically gave up. Keep getting FCing even with the correct settings. Did you try the Xposed module? It works nicely. Plus, I noticed they brought back move app to SD function which I might end up using on my larger apps. Not sure what else I can do. I may do some searching in the S5 threads. There's one particular mod I'd like to look at as well. It's a version of the download Booster that works with HSPA and lower MB threshold. That would be VERY HANDY to have working on our device!
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I read that one way to do it in kitkat is to get into your actual kernel image and edit it in there.
A little out of my exp but I may give it a try.
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Yeah I basically gave up. Keep getting FCing even with the correct settings. Did you try the Xposed module? It works nicely. Plus, I noticed they brought back move app to SD function which I might end up using on my larger apps. Not sure what else I can do. I may do some searching in the S5 threads. There's one particular mod I'd like to look at as well. It's a version of the download Booster that works with HSPA and lower MB threshold. That would be VERY HANDY to have working on our device!
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This guy here can get it to work on Kit Kat. He says he is also planning to get a Note 4 this year:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468596&page=43
Hopefully he does soon and he creates the mod for Note 4
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This guy here can get it to work on Kit Kat. He says he is also planning to get a Note 4 this year:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2468596&page=43
Hopefully he does soon and he creates the mod for Note 4
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Mattiadj is a beast at this true, but you guys are also awesome for even attempting this mod for our note 4's. I've been rocking his mods since the note 2 and can't live without them now, one of the reasons I can't give up my note 3 because of his very useful mod lol
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Is it possible to run google maps from sd? Running out of internal memory, and have moved everything else possible to sd.
Nexus one 4ever
Clean out your phone, you have too much stuff. Really you need to unload some stuff.
Root and install Apps2EXT.
Jack, why do you prefer apps2ext over apps2sd (darktremor)? I'm trying to decide which way to go...
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Jack, why do you prefer apps2ext over apps2sd (darktremor)? I'm trying to decide which way to go...
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You're confused. Apps2Ext is linking the apps directory to an ext partition on the SD card, ie: what darktremor does. Saying Apps2Ext is a way to differentiate between Froyo (Apps2SD) and ext (Apps2Ext).
And why do it? EVERY app safely lives on the SD card, no worries about widgets or stuff that runs all the time or apps which really don't want to move to the SD card.
Probably am confused - wouldn't be the first time...
I though darktremor was one of a few different methods. I move apps to the SD with Froyo, but I still have to keep an eye on internal storage, because only part of the app gets moved...
Trying to find a better way...
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I think I recall Google saying that was in development. T-Mobile doesn't really work anywhere and especially near and outside of major city limits. So when you really need a map tmobile doesnt work, having maps available on sd would be incredible. God I hate T-Mobile, I just hate them so damn much. They told me to write down all the places my phone doesn't work so I can tell them. Apparently I can't just be a customer, if I want decent service I have to actually work for T-Mobile for free. Just a useless, God awful carrier.
DMaverick50 said:
I think I recall Google saying that was in development. T-Mobile doesn't really work anywhere and especially near and outside of major city limits. So when you really need a map tmobile doesnt work, having maps available on sd would be incredible.
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Maybe have a look at this thread. I've used it before, but never messed with caching the tiles to the SD card, which is apparently supported.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630887
I burned it to my SD card, botted the NC with it inside and all I get is a clock and a message asking for a password to decrypt the drive. Anyone know what the password is? I can't find any posts anywhere with a password mentioned and I have to ask here because I don't have enough posts to actually ask in the development thread where this likely belongs.
You did it wrong. Try downloading, extracting and burning again. Mine is running great.
Yeah, you did something wrong. I booted it up and it looks sweet. Not a daily driver, but a very, very nice proof of concept.
I just got mine running, after giving up on it last night. I was having problems where initially winimage wouldn't even see my sd card. Then I tried in Ubuntu following the directions on the dev link, and I must have been doing something wrong, it didn't work. Tried again with winimage today and it worked this time. If you have a problem still, leave a description of your method here. It seems like this can be a finicky process for us noobs.
Doesn't it figure, right after I get this working they release an update to the .img.
I'm pretty sure it's the sd card. I'm using a 32gig class 10. I went to switch it with the 16 gig card in my vibrant and I can't even get it to work right in the phone.
Honeycomb assumes that if it fails to mount the partition for /data that the partition must be encrypted, and therefore it should prompt for a password.
So, you have a partition that won't mount, possibly due to an error writing the image to the sdcard. Either redo the image or if you have a linux machine, reformat the partition.
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I'm pretty sure it's the sd card. I'm using a 32gig class 10. I went to switch it with the 16 gig card in my vibrant and I can't even get it to work right in the phone.
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If you placed a disk image on the card then it probably is in a format that your phone doesn't like now. You'll need to reformat it, which I find the easiest way to do this is to start your nookcolor up on the stock os, then insert the card and wait for it to prompt you to format it. That should make your 32Gb card play nice with the phone again.
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If you placed a disk image on the card then it probably is in a format that your phone doesn't like now. You'll need to reformat it, which I find the easiest way to do this is to start your nookcolor up on the stock os, then insert the card and wait for it to prompt you to format it. That should make your 32Gb card play nice with the phone again.
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No, I did reformat it before I put it in. Turns out the Vibrant only supports SD cards up to 16 gig in size. It was definitely an issue with the SD card. Ran over to Best Buy on my way home from work and picked up an 8gig class 4 card (for a ridiculous price, Best Buys my ass) and was able to get Honeycomb up and running in less than 15 minutes. Would have preferred the faster card, but I guess I'll just have to send the 32 gig card back.
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No, I did reformat it before I put it in. Turns out the Vibrant only supports SD cards up to 16 gig in size. It was definitely an issue with the SD card. Ran over to Best Buy on my way home from work and picked up an 8gig class 4 card (for a ridiculous price, Best Buys my ass) and was able to get Honeycomb up and running in less than 15 minutes. Would have preferred the faster card, but I guess I'll just have to send the 32 gig card back.
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Ok, I was completely unaware that the Vibrant didn't take sd>16Gb. My G2 takes up to 32, so I didn't consider it. But that doesn't mean your 32Gb card is bad. The nookcolor can use a card of that size. How did you reformat it? If you're using windows and you went to format it from the file explorer,that may not have done it, that never works for me.
Just to clarify things, when you guys refer to "SD card," you're talking about a Micro SD card, right?
I want to make sure I buy the right thing for when I purchase my NC.
Yeah, definitely microsd
Mine's running just fine running on a class 4 4gb card. I used my mac to just dd the image onto the card and it fit without a problem, so maybe if you format in linux (download and burn a live cd of gparted if you have to) you can get something that will work best. Also, don't forget to get the newest version of windiskimager (it seems like it's the only thing that works on windows so far).
It's not quite usable for everyday, but once things get worked out it's definitely worth dedicating to eMMC =D
can some one help me out with the process of installing honeybunches
is this just a preview of honeycomb?
can i just put it on my nook to look around play with, THEN go back my usual set up?
if so how?
Download the zip file from the post in the Dev section, then write it to a uSD card that is AT LEAST 4gb (using either dd in linux/mac terminal or the latest win32diskimager). Shut off your NC and load in the card. When you turn it back on it will run the Honeycomb image from the card - no changes made to your NC!
When you want to go back, just turn off, take out card, then reboot. Right now there aren't many things working on it (you have to install the market yourself, and then most apps don't work). But it is a beautiful proof of concept. You can play around in it a bit to familiarise yourself with the new stuff without hurting your NC (theoretically, don't hold me to it if something does go wrong).
Good luck!
Got a NC a few weeks ago, rooted, and running well, but clearly not optimal.
Saw the google presentation of honeycomb today, and clearly this is what tablets need.
Do you all (those who do development) believe that the current NC is a candidate for a real version of honeycomb once it it fully released, and that it can be ported, or is the HW not adequate for it. In other words, should I be thinking my NC can be my tablet in June, or am I going to have to purchase another 'real' tablet that officially has honeycomb?
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Got a NC a few weeks ago, rooted, and running well, but clearly not optimal.
Saw the google presentation of honeycomb today, and clearly this is what tablets need.
Do you all (those who do development) believe that the current NC is a candidate for a real version of honeycomb once it it fully released, and that it can be ported, or is the HW not adequate for it. In other words, should I be thinking my NC can be my tablet in June, or am I going to have to purchase another 'real' tablet that officially has honeycomb?
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The mere fact that Honeycomb runs in it's current state is proof enough. And, it does run well for being literaly a ported code preview, also I'm sure all of the hardware acceleration and what nots are driverless and drunk. TBH it's really only going to go up from here. As soon as CWM and nookie froyo play nice everyone and their brother will be putting out custom images. Then we'll have finished honeycomb ports to look forward to.
I completely agree with woot1524, cyanogenmod won't work on this demo version of honeycomb, but once the release is official they'll whip up a rom that makes this a legit tablet. Personally I'll wait until that happens before I flash anything onto the device. I'd rather have 3.0 on my nook than 2.2 or 2.3, just for the fact that it's geared toward tablets, but there is a lot of chatter about CM7 coming to the nook sooner than later.
"Honeybunches", a custom version of deeper-blue's work, has a 2GB image.I'm currently running it off of a 2GB Class 2 microSD and it's pretty darn speedy.
Has anyone noticed any performance issues with different class SD Cards?
Is there a significant difference in speed between a class 6 (I have) and a class 10 (I do not have)?
Is there any difference in performance using any class card - 2,4,6 or 10?
Also, Has anyone been able to DL and run the B&N Nook App without causing a FC?
-NJ
Hi everyone!
do anyone of you know if the Optimus Speed Supports SDXC? (or any Bigger memory cards than 32 Gigs?) Officially, LG said, i believe, it Supports only 32Gigs, however, i`ve read somewhere, that the only Difference between SDHC and SDXC is that SDXC uses the "exFAT" Filesystem! Hardware-wise, even a "old" SD 1.0 reader should be able to read both, SDHC and SDXC its just the right drivers u need... so do anyone of you know, if Android supports the exFAT Filesystem? if android Supports it, i believe so, Android should be able to read/write the Big Cards?
sorry for my horrible english by the way ...
Does really nobody know something Memory is a really important thing for me...
Sorrow1994 said:
Does really nobody know something Memory is a really important thing for me...
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Are you know, where we can buy microSDXC 64GB????
Sorrow1994 said:
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I would also like to know if anyone could try out a 64 GB sdxc card in a o2x.
I have the phone on order, and this would be a serious plus, especially since the phone otherwise will only accept up to 40 gb (8gb + 32gb sdhc card ;-o )
Gnuig said:
I would also like to know if anyone could try out a 64 GB sdxc card in a o2x.
I have the phone on order, and this would be a serious plus, especially since the phone otherwise will only accept up to 40 gb (8gb + 32gb sdhc card ;-o )
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your wrong lol
the Phone does accept 40 Gigs, However, u can unly use like 35 Gigs or sumthing for your own Data, wich is... hmmm not that much! (5,5GB internal SD+32GB SDHC <-- 30 GB useable!)
EDIT: what would i do with so much space? well, currently the 35 gigs that the Phone offers WOULD BE ENOUGH BY FAR for me! but if im going to buy this Phone, i think im gonna own it for like 3 Years or Something! ...and after some time i might need more Space! (my Music Collection is growing all the time!) and a little bit of... hm how you call it? "Future Proofness"... maybe? anyway, that wouldnt be bad...
EDIT Nr.2: @ altemirx no, i don't lol ... as i said previously, i want... how i should call it? "Future Proofness"
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your wrong lol
the Phone does accept 40 Gigs, However, u can unly use like 35 Gigs or sumthing for your own Data, wich is... hmmm not that much! (5,5GB internal SD+32GB SDHC <-- 30 GB useable!)
EDIT: what would i do with so much space? well, currently the 35 gigs that the Phone offers WOULD BE ENOUGH BY FAR for me! but if im going to buy this Phone, i think im gonna own it for like 3 Years or Something! ...and after some time i might need more Space! (my Music Collection is growing all the time!) and a little bit of... hm how you call it? "Future Proofness"... maybe? anyway, that wouldnt be bad...
EDIT Nr.2: @ altemirx no, i don't lol ... as i said previously, i want... how i should call it? "Future Proofness"
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If you shoot alot of video or want movie files on your phone they can eat up memory quick especially if you record at 1080p.
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If you shoot alot of video or want movie files on your phone they can eat up memory quick especially if you record at 1080p.
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Yeah that's exactly what i mean! and im very heavy Multi Media user, too
so 64 gigs plus would be extremly nice
Sorrow1994 said:
Yeah that's exactly what i mean! and im very heavy Multi Media user, too
so 64 gigs plus would be extremly nice
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Just... by the way... Does any1 has any idea when the First Micro SDXC Cards are going to be avialable?
EDIT: Bull****, Sorry 4 Double Post!
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EDIT: what would i do with so much space? well, currently the 35 gigs that the Phone offers WOULD BE ENOUGH BY FAR for me!
but if im going to buy this Phone, i think im gonna own it for like 3 Years or Something! ...and after some time i might need more Space! (my Music Collection is growing all the time!) and a little bit of... hm how you call it? "Future Proofness"...
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35 Gigs of usable memory is ok, but i could easily fill that with pics, music and a few videos... Times are a changing... ;-o
Also, if I get the o2x, i doubt it will last me more that 1 1/2 - 2 years max... Unlike my good old nokia 9500 communicator... I miss the full querty on it... RIP!
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These cards are confirmed working in several Android's now:
http://www.androidnz.net/2011/09/sandisk-64gb-micro-sdxc-cards-confirmed.html
Am guessing that all that is needed for using an SDXC card, is just a driver. As simple as that.
I remember like 5-6 years ago i used to have a pocked pc and it was when SDHC standards arrived, and by just installing a 2kb file or smthn, they were completely usable on any old Device. So am guessing the same thing applies here...
I could be wrong of course : )
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Am guessing that all that is needed for using an SDXC card, is just a driver. As simple as that.
I remember like 5-6 years ago i used to have a pocked pc and it was when SDHC standards arrived, and by just installing a 2kb file or smthn, they were completely usable on any old Device. So am guessing the same thing applies here...
I could be wrong of course : )
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This is true. There is technically no difference between between the SDHC and SDXC-cards, just the size. You need a file-system which supports >32GB-cards. (I have a transformer, which has built-in support for NTFS, and will happily accept SDXC-cards larger than 32GB provided it's formatted with NTFS.)
I haven't tested if any ROM for the O2X can mount SD-cards with anything else than FAT, but it's easy enough to test I guess. Just format a(ny) card with ext2/3 and insert it. If it's recognized it should be possible to use cards >32GB.
Did neither of you guys see my post? These are working in Android devices, no special drivers needed. I don't think anyone has tried in a 2x specifically, but I would be surprised if they didn't work.
Using cm7, I find many issues stem from apps trying to read from SD. is there a way to resize emmc to a smaller size and increase the size of internal storage? or are they on a seperate physical storage?
Thanks
If I understand correctly, what you are asking is it is possible to have CM see the WHOLE 5 GB as internal storage, rather than .998 GB and a mount point at /mnt/emmc?
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deadbot1 said:
If I understand correctly, what you are asking is it is possible to have CM see the WHOLE 5 GB as internal storage, rather than .998 TB and a mount point at /mnt/emmc?
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well i would like to know that.
Agreed. This would make a lot of things work nicer, if not better. The Nook app comes to mind first off. Lots of apps can't t see that mount point at /mnt/emmc.
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Agreed. This would make a lot of things work nicer, if not better. The Nook app comes to mind first off. Lots of apps can't t see that mount point at /mnt/emmc.
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Could it be that the apps are written to store data to the mount point /sdcard?
There is a app in the developers area to swap /mnt/emmc and /sdcard. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034939
I have not tried it so can not tell you how it works.
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Could it be that the apps are written to store data to the mount point /sdcard?
There is a app in the developers area to swap /mnt/emmc and /sdcard. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1034939
I have not tried it so can not tell you how it works.
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Yep, already looked at that...defeats the purpose of the idea...to get access to the FULL capacity...of BOTH the internal and SD card.
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Yep, already looked at that...defeats the purpose of the idea...to get access to the FULL capacity...of BOTH the internal and SD card.
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Let me get this right, you want to join the capacity of the emmc and the sdcard as one mount point. Like a strip set?
I do not think that it would wise or even possible.
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Let me get this right, you want to join the capacity of the emmc and the sdcard as one mount point. Like a strip set?
I do not think that it would wise or even possible.
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i would like to know if its possible to use all the 5 gigs for apps and stuff.
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Let me get this right, you want to join the capacity of the emmc and the sdcard as one mount point. Like a strip set?
I do not think that it would wise or even possible.
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No, no. If you look at the way that CM7 uses the EMMC card on board it "splits" it into storage(the way a phone sees it in android) and a mount point that is like an SD card. The problem with this is that some apps are poorly written and can't see that mount point at /mnt/emmc. So you end up with certain apps not being able to access roughly 4 gigs of onboard storage.
The sdcard is seperate and handled correctly.
What the idea is here is to get the "phone storage" size to be the whole emmc and not just.92Gb(some limitation of android/CM7?). So you would end up when you look at the storage option in CM with Internal storage reading something like 4.9 gig instead of .92 gig and have no mount point at /mnt/emmc. All apps should be able to see the full capacity of the EMMC card and the external SD card this way.
Edit: sorry if I seem to ave threadjacked you electrikjesus. You just asked a VERY good question.
I would be happy even if there was a nice way to mount the emmc as /sdcard and then mount the actual external sd card as /sdcard/external_sd, similar to how my Captivate handles is. This would at least allow both to be access by all applications, and not just those few that will allow you to access parts of the filesystem besides /sdcard. Is there any reason fstab couldn't be modified to this?
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No, no. If you look at the way that CM7 uses the EMMC card on board it "splits" it into storage(the way a phone sees it in android) and a mount point that is like an SD card. The problem with this is that some apps are poorly written and can't see that mount point at /mnt/emmc. So you end up with certain apps not being able to access roughly 4 gigs of onboard storage.
The sdcard is seperate and handled correctly.
What the idea is here is to get the "phone storage" size to be the whole emmc and not just.92Gb(some limitation of android/CM7?). So you would end up when you look at the storage option in CM with Internal storage reading something like 4.9 gig instead of .92 gig and have no mount point at /mnt/emmc. All apps should be able to see the full capacity of the EMMC card and the external SD card this way.
Edit: sorry if I seem to ave threadjacked you electrikjesus. You just asked a VERY good question.
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I figured that you all would pretty much take it from here You know exactly what I was asking. Currently EMMC is a huge waste of usable space even if I resize it for DualBoot, I still have a good 2gb left over that could be used to increase the internal storage of my Daily CM7. I use the DB for honeycomb tests.
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Yep, I understand it perfectly...just never would have thought of actually asking about it
anywho...heres hoping that one of the devs or someone with some knowledge of the subject will chime in.
bump bumpty bump. Did we get lost in the 1.2 flood or what?
Really would like to see this happen as well, as it's kind of silly to have such a low amt of space for Apps and then a bunch of space kind of hidden that some may never even know about.
couldnt agree more - bumping my apps to the sdcard is a pain - Id like to have that unwasted /emmc 5 gig slice for something..
I have been looking everywhere to find an answer to this very question. Would love that extra space for apps and what not.
I use emmc to store all my music. Then point my music app to that partition. PowerAmp sees it just fine and I have the rest of my partitions freed up for more important things. Call me silly but I thought that is what it was for, to store data.
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I use emmc to store all my music. Then point my music app to that partition. PowerAmp sees it just fine and I have the rest of my partitions freed up for more important things. Call me silly but I thought that is what it was for, to store data.
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12paq, this is exactly how I want to roll....I want my music on the 5Gb EMMC partition. I have PowerAmp already loaded. What is the best way to transfer my music from my PC to the EMCC of my NC?
EDIT: Nvm....figured it out...easier than I originally thought.
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I use emmc to store all my music. Then point my music app to that partition. PowerAmp sees it just fine and I have the rest of my partitions freed up for more important things. Call me silly but I thought that is what it was for, to store data.
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Nope..you are both getting and missing the point. What if I want to store epubs there and my reader app of choice can't see anything but the "internal" storage or SD card. That's roughly 4 gigs of unusable space for me then. It would seem to me that from a compatability standpoint, getting all this to be seen as "internal storage" would be optimal.
Some apps just can't see that mount point, mostly those that were designed with typical phone setups in mind.
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I understand what you're saying... maybe we could start a bounty for resizing emmc for more app storage?
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Based on what I was reading in the Barnes and Nobles Nook HD forums, setting up a Hybrid system SD card as primary storage is NOT a task for the light hearted. I found a way that's easy to do and works great. I have 32gb G.Skill class 10 Sd and a Barnes and Noble Nook HD
(Not Plus, Haven't tried this on Plus). (Seems long but it really only took me 30 mins from the very beginning)
- First and foremost you have to set up your SD card and get CWM (Clockworkmod) active. I just followed Diogenes5 instructions that are posted on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37578234 . I just followed up to Step 7
- I then booted up to Cyanogen and once I got to the lock screen I just held the power buttom to shut down.
- Now pop out the SD, and hook it up to the computer
- I used a program called Mini Tool Partition Wizard
- This will dislplay all the Partition on your SD card (Should be split in 4 parts)
- Now Delete (Format) the larger part ot the Sd card which should be all the way to the right (Fat 32)
- Also Delete The Ext 4 partition and now you will have 1 larger empty space.
- Partition the Unallocated space into 2 any way you like. The left half should be partitioned Ext 4 (Primary) this will be your actual system space.
- The right half of the partition will be fat 32 and Cyanogen will see this as an SD partition. I prefer to make the system partition larger.
With my own set up I have the system partition as 21 gigs and the secondary Sd partition as 8 gigs.
Downloaded the Newest Rom at the time which is cm-10.1-20130425-UNOFFICIAL-hummingbird *** NEWEST
good luck and let me know how you did
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Based on what I was reading in the Barnes and Nobles Nook HD forums, setting up a Hybrid system SD card as primary storage is NOT a task for the light hearted. I found a way that's easy to do and works great. I have 32gb G.Skill class 10 Sd and a Barnes and Noble Nook HD
(Not Plus, Haven't tried this on Plus). (Seems long but it really only took me 30 mins from the very beginning)
- First and foremost you have to set up your SD card and get CWM (Clockworkmod) active. I just followed Diogenes5 instructions that are posted on http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=37578234 . I just followed up to Step 7
- I then booted up to Cyanogen and once I got to the lock screen I just held the power buttom to shut down.
- Now pop out the SD, and hook it up to the computer
- I used a program called Mini Tool Partition Wizard
- This will dislplay all the Partition on your SD card (Should be split in 4 parts)
- Now Delete (Format) the larger part ot the Sd card which should be all the way to the right (Fat 32)
- Also Delete The Ext 4 partition and now you will have 1 larger empty space.
- Partition the Unallocated space into 2 any way you like. The left half should be partitioned Ext 4 (Primary) this will be your actual system space.
- The right half of the partition will be fat 32 and Cyanogen will see this as an SD partition. I prefer to make the system partition larger.
With my own set up I have the system partition as 21 gigs and the secondary Sd partition as 8 gigs.
Downloaded the Newest Rom at the time which is cm-10.1-20130425-UNOFFICIAL-hummingbird *** NEWEST
good luck and let me know how you did
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Why is this a break through? Having your /system at 21GB is a complete waste of SD space. You cannot use it for anything. CM10.1 only uses about .5GB of that and the rest is wasted.
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leapinlar said:
Why is this a break through? Having your /system at 21GB is a complete waste of SD space. You cannot use it for anything. CM10.1 only uses about .5GB of that and the rest is wasted.
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This is why its a break through friend. I am able to use all of it not just 5gb. Did you actually read the first post?
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This is why its a break through friend. I am able to use all of it not just 5gb. Did you actually read the first post?
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I did read it. What 5GB are you talking about. All I saw was you repartitioned the card so that /system is 21GB and CM10SDCARD is reduced to 8GB. What am I missing?
Edit: Did you read my post? I said 1/2 GB, not 5 GB.
Edit2: And if you are talking about using the 21GB for something besides the /system ROM, it is not usable. That is why we made it so small in the first place.
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I did read it. What 5GB are you talking about. All I saw was you repartitioned the card so that /system is 21GB and CM10SDCARD is reduced to 8GB. What am I missing?
Edit: Did you read my post? I said 1/2 GB, not 5 GB.
Edit2: And if you are talking about using the 21GB for something besides the /system ROM, it is not usable. That is why we made it so small in the first place.
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Either I didn't explain it properly or your not getting it. I check the forums and no where did I see a tutorial on how to do what I just explained. Send me a link if you find it.... Thanks
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Either I didn't explain it properly or your not getting it. I check the forums and no where did I see a tutorial on how to do what I just explained. Send me a link if you find it.... Thanks
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You are right about one thing, there is no other thread with a tutorial about how to change the Hybrid's partitions. But what you are not explaining well and I am not getting is, why would anyone want to do this?
Are you under the impression that making the /system partition larger is somehow useful? If so, tell me how you are going to use that extra /system space. Maybe that will help me understand.
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You are right about one thing, there is no other thread with a tutorial about how to change the Hybrid's partitions. But what you are not explaining well and I am not getting is, why would anyone want to do this?
Are you under the impression that making the /system partition larger is somehow useful? If so, tell me how you are going to use that extra /system space. Maybe that will help me understand.
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Well what I found Is that 5gb is not enough for me personally. I am really trying to turn this thing into a media player which I'm assuming everyone else is trying to do as well, so < 5gb is not cutting it... At all. There is a dramatic difference between 5 and 20gb; you have a lot more freedom and flexability. Also please keep in mind that formatting the wrong partitions can brick/corrupt your Nook HD so please don't speak of it so lightly because you might mislead others who may think its harmless.
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Well what I found Is that 5gb is not enough for me personally. I am really trying to turn this thing into a media player which I'm assuming everyone else is trying to do as well, so < 5gb is not cutting it... At all. There is a dramatic difference between 5 and 20gb; you have a lot more freedom and flexability. Also please keep in mind that formatting the wrong partitions can brick/corrupt your Nook HD so please don't speak of it so lightly because you might mislead others who may think its harmless.
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Lol. This is a good read if only for the amusing factor. You don't realize that you just lost 20Gb of usable space because the /system partition Is used for system files and ONLY system files. And that's why it's so small, because the system only needs .5 gigs. The rest (in partition 4) which you significantly reduced, is where the media and data is kept.
Leapinlar has tried 3 times to make this point. He is a very patient man but I think you are stretching him pretty thin. Please re read the entire thread carefully and hopefully you will see why he's saying that the process you are describing is not beneficial.
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Lol. This is a good read if only for the amusing factor. You don't realize that you just lost 20Gb of usable space because the /system partition Is used for system files and ONLY system files. And that's why it's so small, because the system only needs .5 gigs. The rest (in partition 4) which you significantly reduced, is where the media and data is kept.
Leapinlar has tried 3 times to make this point. He is a very patient man but I think you are stretching him pretty thin. Please re read the entire thread carefully and hopefully you will see why he's saying that the process you are describing is not beneficial.
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There is no reasoning with him.
I think I understand now what he is saying about the 5GB. The stock 8GB Nook HD has only 5GB of internal media space for storing media files. But what he is not getting is his mod does not help that situation. Somehow he is thinking increasing the SD /system will help. Like you also tried to point out, he just took 20GB of his SD media space away that he could have been using for media files and allocated it to useless /system space.
I really don't care what he does with his own device, I just don't want him influencing others to do the same thing with theirs. Thanks for the support.
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There is no reasoning with him.
I think I understand now what he is saying about the 5GB. The stock 8GB Nook HD has only 5GB of internal media space for storing media files. But what he is not getting is his mod does not help that situation. Somehow he is thinking increasing the SD /system will help. Like you also tried to point out, he just took 20GB of his SD media space away that he could have been using for media files and allocated it to useless /system space.
I really don't care what he does with his own device, I just don't want him influencing others to do the same thing with theirs. Thanks for the support.
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LOL! "Leapinlar has tried 3 times to make this point. He is a very patient man but I think you are stretching him pretty thin" What's going to happen is Leapinlar going to give me a scolding??!! Wow! . Just for the record both partitions have OVER 5gb of content and I have no problems what so ever with the space being used. In my first post I made a mistake of saying that the Ext 4 is the system partition which I guess is wrong thanks to **** and dock who were so PROUD to correct me. Use common sense, I guess its obvious that I didn't touch the system partition because If I did format it I would have a bricked system. Thanks for the information and I see the error in my explanation but please don't be so condesending with your little comments. I made a mistake with the terminology which caused you and your cheerleader to not sleep at night.... Sorry!!!
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LOL! "Leapinlar has tried 3 times to make this point. He is a very patient man but I think you are stretching him pretty thin" What's going to happen is Leapinlar going to give me a scolding??!! Wow! . Just for the record both partitions have OVER 5gb of content and I have no problems what so ever with the space being used. In my first post I made a mistake of saying that the Ext 4 is the system partition which I guess is wrong thanks to **** and dock who were so PROUD to correct me. Use common sense, I guess its obvious that I didn't touch the system partition because If I did format it I would have a bricked system. Thanks for the information and I see the error in my explanation but please don't be so condesending with your little comments. I made a mistake with the terminology which caused you and your cheerleader to not sleep at night.... Sorry!!!
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Apology accepted.