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Lockable/Unlockable Bootloader

Motorola has listened to the voice of it's consumers!
They stated they were going to implement lockable/unlockable bootloaders into their phones. Basically the same technology that's in the Xoom.
That could be one of the reasons the Bionic has been delayed til this Summer. If that's what it is, then the Bionic will be the "IT" phone for Verizon. That's going to set the benchmark pretty high. Motorola won't be on my **** list anymore lol

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its a cop out....theyre saying its up to the carriers if the phone is unlocked...and no carrier (save maybe tmo) would agree to that voluntarily
this phone will be locked and worthless

nitsuj17 said:
its a cop out....theyre saying its up to the carriers if the phone is unlocked...and no carrier (save maybe tmo) would agree to that voluntarily
this phone will be locked and worthless
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honestly Sprint seems to be the only carrier that honestly DOESNT care what you do with your phone...

heldunder said:
honestly Sprint seems to be the only carrier that honestly DOESNT care what you do with your phone...
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Pretty sure you mean "Tmobile." They gave Cyanogen a g2x, and gtab if I remember correctly to see what he could do with them...

nitsuj17 said:
its a cop out....theyre saying its up to the carriers if the phone is unlocked...and no carrier (save maybe tmo) would agree to that voluntarily
this phone will be locked and worthless
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Honestly I couldn't care less if its locked or not. I agree, lock the thing it makes carriers feel good about themselves. Just don't encrypt it or make it so it can't be unlocked.
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I know Sprint doesn't care because I turned my EVO 4G for a 150 dollar credit towards the EVO 3D and my phone was rooted, custom ROM installed and custom kernel and they said nothing.. I rooted and installed a custom ROM on a Droid X for a friend and they returned it because they didn't like it and Verizon would not take it. Sprint is cool with their customers doing what they want with their phones, I have no idea how t-mobile feels...
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Locked up
If the D3 is any indicator, it will be locked just as the D3 is.

they always lock the phone

yeap it is locked... at least it is rooted..

Meeehh... I just traded in my Charge rooted, and everything. Custom ROM, custom kernel. Not even a peep. Hell, the dude who took the phone had his Charge in his hand when he took it.
Verizon took my first Incredible with a cracked screen, and bricked with no insurance. Only thing they asked was "Do you have a phone you can switch to in the process? No? We'll overnight your new one. Have a good day."
It just depends on who takes it, and their mood.

Dev Edition Worth Waiting?

Struggling with getting the Dev edition and just getting the Verizon version when motomaker hits Verizon. There's the obvious plus with getting the Dev edition but I'm not crazy about the color scheme. Thoughts?

I am so glad I went with importing a Rodgers one and not going with a moto maker one. I have unlocked and rooted and xposedmoto has meant I can get rid of the WiFi gap, network icon etc.
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GR36 said:
I am so glad I went with importing a Rodgers one and not going with a moto maker one. I have unlocked and rooted and xposedmoto has meant I can get rid of the WiFi gap, network icon etc.
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What part of the ATT bands does the Roger device support?

As far as I know they are one and the same device just with an unlockable boot loader
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GR36 said:
I am so glad I went with importing a Rodgers one and not going with a moto maker one. I have unlocked and rooted and xposedmoto has meant I can get rid of the WiFi gap, network icon etc.
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Could you post a screenshot of the fixed WiFi gap?
Where did you import from? EBay?
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I imported from a friend of a friend.. But they are on eBay yeah. Factor in VAT if you importing as I got hit with £95 bill

If you can live with 16GB of storage, just import the Rogers version (for the unlockable bootloader).

ms0chez said:
Struggling with getting the Dev edition and just getting the Verizon version when motomaker hits Verizon. There's the obvious plus with getting the Dev edition but I'm not crazy about the color scheme. Thoughts?
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I hope so!

I'm really getting tired of waiting... I saw Sprint and US Cellular have been added to the list of unlock codes posted by Motorola, no word on Verizon that I've heard. I did hear Dev Editions are about 2 weeks out, but I haven't seen that confirmed. I don't really care about picking my own color, it'd be nice but... I don't mind the color scheme of the Dev Edition or just getting friggin' a black one. I just would like Verizon to say when Dev Editions will be available or Motorola or Verizon to say if the codes will be coming out ever. I really want to get one the beginning of this week but don't know which way to go myself...

dubyajaysmith said:
I'm really getting tired of waiting... I saw Sprint and US Cellular have been added to the list of unlock codes posted by Motorola, no word on Verizon that I've heard.
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Oops - I somehow missed that you're on Verizon. Both AT&T and Verizon have made their stance on unlocked bootloaders pretty clear.

GR36 said:
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I imported from a friend of a friend.. But they are on eBay yeah. Factor in VAT if you importing as I got hit with £95 bill
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So beautiful without the AT&T logo and the stupid WiFi gap.
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thedosbox said:
Oops - I somehow missed that you're on Verizon. Both AT&T and Verizon have made their stance on unlocked bootloaders pretty clear.
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Yeah that is true. I don't quite understand the difference of offering me a code or selling me a dev edition but I rarely understand them. If anything they'd have a bit of proof of me voiding my warranty. I'll keep my cracked G nexus for a bit longer I suppose, see what time tells.

The Dev edition wont be available direct from at and t or verison. It is just able to be used on the network if bought from moto/best buy etc
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GR36 said:
The Dev edition wont be available direct from at and t or verison. It is just able to be used on the network if bought from moto/best buy etc
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Really... Any word on when bestbuy will sell or if you're still able to use an upgrade / subsidized price with them? I guess either way that tips the scale in my scenario though. Ordering by 3PM will get it in my hands Wednesday, probably doing that.
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Yeah. I know if I get the Dev edition I'd have to go through moto which I rather do cause I rather moto profit from my $600 something than VZW. But I think I'm more leaning towards moto maker when it hits VZW and the only reason I'm okay with this is because I think I could live with the moto x without being a crack flasher.

Looks like Dev edition only available in black or white oof contract from moto. T-Mobile is now and only available direct also
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I'm holding out on getting the developer edition although I'm getting a little impatient since not much has been announced. I've been spoiled by my G-nex's unlockable bootloader

I own the black moto x on verizon and im in love with the phone. Ill most likely sell this phone on swappa and pay a few extra bucks and get the DEV edition when its out. I feel like a solid black or white phone would be easier to resell.

Bootloaders?

Will AT&T and others have locked down bootloaders?

NightHawkUndead said:
Will AT&T and others have locked down bootloaders?
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If it's carrier subsidised potentially, however, whole idea of a Nexus isn't to be locked down.

radicalisto said:
If it's carrier subsidised potentially, however, whole idea of a Nexus isn't to be locked down.
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No nexus device has ever had a locked bootloader.
adb oem unlock

JustusIV said:
No nexus device has ever had a locked bootloader.
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Maybe because no nexus device has ever made it to AT&T??

daraj said:
Maybe because no nexus device has ever made it to AT&T??
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well there has been on one Verizon before and they are the ones that invited this whole bootloader locking bullcrap.

Despite it's enormous size, the ability to unlock the bootloader on Verizon will most likely lead me to purchase the Nexus 6 over the Droid Turbo.
Really gonna feel weird carrying around this beast.

blueblazer22x said:
Despite it's enormous size, the ability to unlock the bootloader on Verizon will most likely lead me to purchase the Nexus 6 over the Droid Turbo.
Really gonna feel weird carrying around this beast.
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ill be standing in line right with you brother!

blueblazer22x said:
Despite it's enormous size, the ability to unlock the bootloader on Verizon will most likely lead me to purchase the Nexus 6 over the Droid Turbo.
Really gonna feel weird carrying around this beast.
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As a former Note 3 owner its only a tiny bit bigger so not big deal.

daraj said:
Maybe because no nexus device has ever made it to AT&T??
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The Nexus S would like to speak to you!

So help me, if AT&T locks theirs..
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With the N5, even the Carrier versions are completely unbranded. I don't think we'll see any locked bootloaders on the N6, even if AT&T get it. But it's all conjecture at this point.

JustusIV said:
No nexus device has ever had a locked bootloader.
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Hence me saying about it being a Nexus and them not being locked down.. However, with carriers you never ever know.

It's been said by quite a few on here that Verizon N6 can't have a locked bootloader... And that would go against everything Nexus stands for, but Verizon's stance on bootloaders is a pretty serious one that they don't bend on.
I would most likely get the N6 once I hop on here and read that it's 110% unlocked.
What do you guys think?

It won't have a locked bootloader regardless of carry for two reasons. 1. The law passed on Aug or September 1st that carries have to unlock phones to be used on any carrier if the consumer has fulfilled their contractual obligations. Before you say unlocked and bootloaders are two different things, here me out. 2. There's only 1 model of the Nexus 6 and it supports all US carriers and radios, if Verizon attempts to lock the bootloader, you can purchase a t-mobile version with an unlocked bootloader, and by law Verizon has to allow you to use it on their network.

2swizzle said:
It won't have a locked bootloader regardless of carry for two reasons. 1. The law passed on Aug or September 1st that carries have to unlock phones to be used on any carrier if the consumer has fulfilled their contractual obligations. Before you say unlocked and bootloaders are two different things, here me out. 2. There's only 1 model of the Nexus 6 and it supports all US carriers and radios, if Verizon attempts to lock the bootloader, you can purchase a t-mobile version with an unlocked bootloader, and by law Verizon has to allow you to use it on their network.
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Well said my friend and I agree with you totally. I suppose I'm just accustom to Verizon being such a pain that in the very back of my mind I can see something like a warehouse full of Verizon employees just ripping open N6 boxes.... Quickly locking the bootloader, then shipping them off!!
But since there are only the 2 models, clearly what you stated can be done.
I'm in!

Kernel Sanders said:
So help me, if AT&T locks theirs..
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I feel the same about Verizon. This would be the last straw for me if they do.
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2swizzle said:
It won't have a locked bootloader regardless of carry for two reasons. 1. The law passed on Aug or September 1st that carries have to unlock phones to be used on any carrier if the consumer has fulfilled their contractual obligations. Before you say unlocked and bootloaders are two different things, here me out. 2. There's only 1 model of the Nexus 6 and it supports all US carriers and radios, if Verizon attempts to lock the bootloader, you can purchase a t-mobile version with an unlocked bootloader, and by law Verizon has to allow you to use it on their network.
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I'm actually getting a t mobile on my personal account and using it on my Verizon account I get from work ( I work at a electronics retailer). But legally they'd have to allow me to use it? Why is that?

JustusIV said:
No nexus device has ever had a locked bootloader.
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IF you have to type a command to UNLOCK it then it is locked by default.
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2swizzle said:
It won't have a locked bootloader regardless of carry for two reasons. 1. The law passed on Aug or September 1st that carries have to unlock phones to be used on any carrier if the consumer has fulfilled their contractual obligations. Before you say unlocked and bootloaders are two different things, here me out. 2. There's only 1 model of the Nexus 6 and it supports all US carriers and radios, if Verizon attempts to lock the bootloader, you can purchase a t-mobile version with an unlocked bootloader, and by law Verizon has to allow you to use it on their network.
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NO they do not. They don't have to import the IMEI if they choose not to. There is nothing in the law that requires carriers to accept devices on their network if they don't want it regardless if it's unlocked or not. There's a difference.

All u.s nexus 6 will be the same and have all the u.s radios included in the phones which cuts down cost for google hence save money versus making each carrier a different version. Also i hope there completely easy to switch from one carrier to the other and if so i see a trend starting.

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All u.s nexus 6 will be the same and have all the u.s radios included in the phones which cuts down cost for google hence save money versus making each carrier a different version. Also i hope there completely easy to switch from one carrier to the other and if so i see a trend starting.
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If thats true that there is one model for all carriers, then how will OTAs be managed and pushed? Also, T-mobile announced the Wifi Calling will be pushed to Nexus in the near future! Does that mean all devices on the other carriers will receive this update??
Something is not adding up. I think there will be different device models for each carrier. For example, Nexus US-Model#-A (att) ; Nexus US-Model#-T(tmo)..... and there will also be Nexus-Global model.
My 2 cents.

Nexus 6 from Verizon store

V is tight on information regarding availability at its stores. Arrrggg...
Anyone have an ideal time frame?

verizon hasnt announced it yet, so nobody knows.

Latest rumor is Verizon will not be carrying the Nexus 6. They wanted their own version. Like any other phone. Bloated apps that can't be removed, maybe even a locked bootloader. Google said NO and now maybe it won't be offered on Verizon.
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flyaway718 said:
V is tight on information regarding availability at its stores. Arrrggg...
Anyone have an ideal time frame?
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It's supposedly the 13th of December, a few sites on the web are announcing this now.

rebretz000 said:
Latest rumor is Verizon will not be carrying the Nexus 6. They wanted their own version. Like any other phone. Bloated apps that can't be removed, maybe even a locked bootloader. Google said NO and now maybe it won't be offered on Verizon.
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That doesn't hold weight, google mostly allowed it to at&t . . carrier locked, custom boot animation, carrier specific bloat, even at&t branding on the device.
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hlxanthus said:
That doesn't hold weight, google mostly allowed it to at&t . . carrier locked, custom boot animation, carrier specific bloat, even at&t branding on the device.
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The AT&T version is only carrier locked until you pay it off.
That's what I've heard from someone who seems to be in the know and right a lot.

http://androidspin.com/2014/12/02/r...us-6-become-available-saturday-december-13th/
I hope this is true.
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Even if this is not true.... I do feel like we're edging closer. I spoke to rep at my local store yesterday and she said that it was def coming.... Just no date. In the past we got no information whatsoever.

I hope they do come soon. I need a new Nano SIM for mine.

I'm going to love when they finally get it. As long as Verizon doesn't pull the same **** the did with the m8, and try to lock the boot loader, idc what kind of bloat it has as I'll immediately be putting a custom ROM on it. And as long as they don't brand it with that ugly vzw logo.

Sometime mid to late December. At least that's what the rumors are saying.

Which Nexus 6 to buy for Verizon?

Quick Q
If I want to activate a Nexus 6 on Verizon, do I buy the Sprint Nexus 6 or can I buy any carrier model. Thanks in advance!

badboyg200 said:
Quick Q
If I want to activate a Nexus 6 on Verizon, do I buy the Sprint Nexus 6 or can I buy any carrier model. Thanks in advance!
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any US nexus 6 is the exact same model, no matter where you buy it. the only thing is that the att version comes sim locked.

So which one is the best to buy if I want to activate it on Verizon (in terms of feasibility of bootloader unlock, rooting, etc)? Which would you recommend?

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So which one is the best to buy if I want to activate it on Verizon (in terms of feasibility, etc etc)? Which would you recommend?
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best options are google play or motorola. then the other best option would be tmobile. but if you buy it through google play, they will replace the device one time if you break your screen.

I am thinking about trading my unopened Verizon Note 4 for one. Due to the lack of ROM support and a locked bootloader/non-rootability, the note 4 is virtually worthless to me at this point.

badboyg200 said:
I am thinking about trading my unopened Verizon Note 4 for one. Due to the lack of ROM support and a locked bootloader/non-rootability, the note 4 is virtually worthless to me at this point.
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well, the note 4 is rootable, the verizon version though might not be. i own a sgs4, verizon version, and i rooted it using towelroot. but 50% of the time, it wont boot. i get a message that its running unofficial verizon software, and to take it into a verizon.

simms22 said:
well, the note 4 is rootable, the verizon version though might not be. i own a sgs4, verizon version, and i rooted it using towelroot. but 50% of the time, it wont boot. i get a message that its running unofficial verizon software, and to take it into a verizon.
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There is a bounty for both root and bootloader on Verizon Note 4. But you are correct in that other carrier models of Note 4 are already rooted, unfortunately I have waited too long for this phone and need to move on.

badboyg200 said:
There is a bounty for both root and bootloader on Verizon Note 4. But you are correct in that other carrier models of Note 4 are already rooted, unfortunately I have waited too long for this phone and need to move on.
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The bootloader isn't getting unlocked on Note 4
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badboyg200 said:
I am thinking about trading my unopened Verizon Note 4 for one. Due to the lack of ROM support and a locked bootloader/non-rootability, the note 4 is virtually worthless to me at this point.
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Good luck, the VZW Note 4 unopened can barely fetch $600 on swappa. You'd have to settle for a used Nexus 6 I would think with current values. You might have better luck on Craigslist but it's going to be hard getting a straight trade.

It's not worth getting a carrier version N6 until you verify it's been fully bought. And I thought the N6 users on Verizon were having data issues?

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And I thought the N6 users on Verizon were having data issues?
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I'm not, but I am stock other than unlocked and rooted with a few roms.

fraser.dk said:
It's not worth getting a carrier version N6 until you verify it's been fully bought. And I thought the N6 users on Verizon were having data issues?
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Nope, works perfectly fine. Have to jump through a few hoops to get the SIM working (VZW doesn't recognize the Nexus 6 IMEI as compatible) but after that it's great. In the beginning certain ROMs weren't working natively with Verizon, then a simple text edit fixed it, and now I think it's fixed out of the box for all custom ROMs.

I have a google play store N6 running perfectly on Verizon. Had to cut down my micro sim card to nano, popped it in, unlocked bootloader and on custom ROM number 3 so far. No data issues or any operational issues at this point.

darbylonia said:
I have a google play store N6 running perfectly on Verizon. Had to cut down my micro sim card to nano, popped it in, unlocked bootloader and on custom ROM number 3 so far. No data issues or any operational issues at this point.
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Do you have to call and get it activated or do you literaly just pop in the Sim and is good to go?

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Do you have to call and get it activated or do you literaly just pop in the Sim and is good to go?
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Just pop in the sim and go. Might take a few minutes to get the Verizon signal on the initial boot, but afterwards, everything should be good to go.

Diocat said:
Just pop in the sim and go. Might take a few minutes to get the Verizon signal on the initial boot, but afterwards, everything should be good to go.
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Yup, it was that easy. I read a ton before I made my decision. I bought the Aerb sim cutter from amazon, unboxed my GPS N6, cut my micro sim and had to sandpaper it a little bit to fit, popped it in, 5-10 minutes later I was up and running with zero issues. Happy customer, love this device!

A problem people have had is the IMEI of a device not purchased from Google, Motorola or Verizon will not be in Verizon's database if you have to activate a new SIM card. An already activated SIM will work.

Which device?
A Sprint employee told me to get the Tmobile Nexus since Sprint customers were having pretty bad issues with the nexus 6 on the sprint network. Does carrier specific Nexus 6's have better or worse service on the VZW network? I thought all the phones were the same more or less with the same hardware.

badboyg200 said:
A Sprint employee told me to get the Tmobile Nexus since Sprint customers were having pretty bad issues with the nexus 6 on the sprint network. Does carrier specific Nexus 6's have better or worse service on the VZW network? I thought all the phones were the same more or less with the same hardware.
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all US versions are exactly the same device. google play, tmobile, sprint, etc.. they are the exactly the same device.