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Are you waiting for the Google edition/Developer edition?

Also, wth would the difference be at this point if they would both retain moto x features lol. I believe that is what I'm doing especially at&t and they're bootloader locking stuff. Just not sure which version and which one comes out first.

SysAdmNj said:
Also, wth would the difference be at this point if they would both retain moto x features lol. I believe that is what I'm doing especially at&t and they're bootloader locking stuff. Just not sure which version and which one comes out first.
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i might be waiting. I'll be considering the phone but am going to have to pay full price off contract. So if I'm going to do that, I might as well get the developer edition. However, I would really like to order the phone on opening day, so I'm hoping the Developer edition comes out same day.

dwd3885 said:
i might be waiting. I'll be considering the phone but am going to have to pay full price off contract. So if I'm going to do that, I might as well get the developer edition. However, I would really like to order the phone on opening day, so I'm hoping the Developer edition comes out same day.
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I hear you, same with me. I'd have to buy off contract either way and dont feel at&t needs more of my money. But you say developer edition which would most likely be on the Motorola website? What about the Google edition version that is rumored to come out? Aren't these the same companies, why make it so confusing lol.

It would be nice to have some idea of how long we have to wait......

I defently waiting. Want my unlocked bootloader...I dont want to wait to see if someone can unlock the regular bootloader. I am on Verizon...so I also need to pay full price to keep my unlimited data
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Price is what will decide it for me.

I am considering the purchase of a Developer Edition phone only because of the price of it. I am thinking it would be cheaper to purchase it from Google than it would be to buy it off contract from the carrier. But if it is the same price then I will just get it from my carrier. The colour designing of it isnt important to me.

News should come out in a few days about dev edition availability. I'm not getting the at&t one I don't think. I'm already hearing all the complaints about their annoying phone book software, and their locked BL.

SysAdmNj said:
News should come out in a few days about dev edition availability. I'm not getting the at&t one I don't think. I'm already hearing all the complaints about their annoying phone book software, and their locked BL.
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The address book software doesn't get in the way. Usually it pops up on phones like the One, but on the X, I haven't seen it yet.
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I'm definitely waiting for a developer unlocked edition. Don't want carrier bloat and waiting for bootloader unlock and random issues.

I'll likely return mine that I bought at AT&T when a dev edition is out or news of one. I forget how much I HATE the carrier having more control over my device than me.

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Developer Edition
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Motorolas-own-website-outs-the-32GB-Motorola-Moto-X-Developer-Edition_id46737

I hope that White back is only a rumour and there will be an option of black back
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DarkVasyaK said:
I hope that White back is only a rumour and there will be an option of black back
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Yeah...if not I'm just gonna go with the Motomaker version and unlock the bootloader another way which probably has been done already.

So what's the chance of Verizon getting an unlocked developers edition?
What was the last phone Verizon allowed unlocked out of the box on their network?

compatibility with theoretical future unlocked stock?
Question: Let's say in the future some brilliant dev-type finds a root & bootloader unlock exploit for the non-dev edition of the VZW Moto X. Would ROMs developed for that phone (the rooted/unlocked VZW stock Moto X) be compatible with the Dev Edition? Does anyone know how this has worked with previous Dev Editions?
I'm just wondering in the situation described above, whether the people who shelled out for Dev Edition early on could find themselves with a much smaller mod/dev community to draw upon than people who wait around for a potential (but maybe never coming) future unlock of the device. Would the two VZW versions of the Moto X (Dev and stock) be essentially the same device aside from bootloader, and therefore have compatibility?
I know this is all conjecture until we see an actual Dev Edition on VZW (which might not happen) but I'd be interested in thoughts.

Roms would work on both developer and regular version. One plus would be 32 GB . im hoping Verizon will get developer with the extra storage.
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Well with current rumors pegging it at around $500+, I sense this phone failing commercially.
It's just too much money.
I get Moto wants this to be their "iPhone" but if you wanted to massively pull the rug out from under their feet, you would stick this thing's non contract price around the rumors for the 5C price, which is $300-$400.

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Moto X Dev edition shipping to Canada?

Has anyone managed to get a Moto X dev. ed. shipped to Canada?

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Has anyone managed to get a Moto X dev. ed. shipped to Canada?
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We really don't need it as our boot loader is unlockable, if you want the 32 GB unit, yap your going to have import one, eBay is probably your best bet
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flashallthetime said:
We really don't need it as our boot loader is unlockable
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Thanks, didn't know that. That's the Rogers phone?
I do kinda want 32 GB. How much free space on the 16GB model?

mrbuddy said:
Thanks, didn't know that. That's the Rogers phone?
I do kinda want 32 GB. How much free space on the 16GB model?
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Fresh phone roughly 11 GB free space, yes Rogers moto can he unlocked through Motorola, the only downside is you lose your warranty. I tool Tue plunge right away and don't regret it for a moment
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flashallthetime said:
We really don't need it as our boot loader is unlockable, if you want the 32 GB unit, yap your going to have import one, eBay is probably your best bet
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Er, I heard the Rogers version doesn't support AWS, is that true? The whole point of the Dev Edition to me is the lack of branding and pentaband 3G/HSPA as I will be on Wind Mobile (no LTE available). So I kinda of DO need the Dev Edition.

zAlbee said:
Er, I heard the Rogers version doesn't support AWS, is that true? The whole point of the Dev Edition to me is the lack of branding and pentaband 3G/HSPA as I will be on Wind Mobile (no LTE available). So I kinda of DO need the Dev Edition.
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The Rogers version does support AWS with LTE, but not HSPA(which is what you want for Wind) You need the dev edition or tmobile/retail edition if you want to use it with Wind.

Steve-x said:
The Rogers version does support AWS with LTE, but not HSPA(which is what you want for Wind) You need the dev edition or tmobile/retail edition if you want to use it with Wind.
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Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Both of those are only available in the US...

zAlbee said:
Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Both of those are only available in the US...
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You can always flash the tmobile sbf firmware with there modems and you're good to go but you need to unlock your bootloader
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zAlbee said:
Thanks, that's what I was afraid of. Both of those are only available in the US...
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Hi! Sorry for digging up an old thread but I'd like to know If you ended up purchasing the developer edition and if it truly is compatible with Wind Mobile. I'm currently in the same situation you were and I can't believe how much confusion there is over the different variants of Moto X available. All the data I've seen suggests the T-mobile and GSM Developer Edition are essentially the same phones with the same pentaband support but every social board I've come across has someone claiming they are not. I trusted my research however and recently jumped on an opportunity to purchase a brand new unopened Developer Edition Moto X for a great deal off ebay only to come across yet another contradicting post but this time on a Canadian board with respect to Wind specifically and now I'm very worried. Can you please confirm the Moto X GSM Developer Edition's compatibility with Wind Mobile?
Thanks
Also, FYI the model number on the box reads 00337NADEV which is what's listed on Motorola's specs sheet for AT&T/T-mobile's GSM Developer Edition while the FCC ID is IHDT56PA2 which corresponds to the XT1053 variant so hopefully everything works out (fingers crossed)

mikey-89 said:
Hi! Sorry for digging up an old thread but I'd like to know If you ended up purchasing the developer edition and if it truly is compatible with Wind Mobile.
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Yes I did, and yes it is! I've had it (XT1053 GSM Dev Edition) for 7 months now, and I use Wind data daily. It works very well. I can even get data at certain spots in the subway (near entrances and at above-ground stations).
mikey-89 said:
I'm currently in the same situation you were and I can't believe how much confusion there is over the different variants of Moto X available. All the data I've seen suggests the T-mobile and GSM Developer Edition are essentially the same phones with the same pentaband support but every social board I've come across has someone claiming they are not. I trusted my research however and recently jumped on an opportunity to purchase a brand new unopened Developer Edition Moto X for a great deal off ebay only to come across yet another contradicting post but this time on a Canadian board with respect to Wind specifically and now I'm very worried. Can you please confirm the Moto X GSM Developer Edition's compatibility with Wind Mobile?
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I know what you mean. I was in the same situation 7 months ago and I probably even read that same board. I bet that whoever said data didn't work forgot to configure the APN settings. I was without data for almost the entire first day with my X until I realized I had to input the APN settings myself.
I can't confirm or deny the numbers on the box (I lost the box), but it sounds like you did your research well. Unless the eBay seller was deliberately lying to you, you should be good. Congrats on your purchase and don't forget to get a nano SIM! (I got mine for $10 from a Wind retailer.)

Sorry, can't help. Ended up buying Nexus 5. I wish I was in Wind's service area but am not so never looked into that.

zAlbee said:
Yes I did, and yes it is! I've had it (XT1053 GSM Dev Edition) for 7 months now, and I use Wind data daily. It works very well. I can even get data at certain spots in the subway (near entrances and at above-ground stations).
I know what you mean. I was in the same situation 7 months ago and I probably even read that same board. I bet that whoever said data didn't work forgot to configure the APN settings. I was without data for almost the entire first day with my X until I realized I had to input the APN settings myself.
I can't confirm or deny the numbers on the box (I lost the box), but it sounds like you did your research well. Unless the eBay seller was deliberately lying to you, you should be good. Congrats on your purchase and don't forget to get a nano SIM! (I got mine for $10 from a Wind retailer.)
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That's great news! Thanks I'll be sure to check the APN settings also. Hopefully this thread clears up the situation for anyone else. I've been eyeing this device for a long time very excited to finally have one. How are the data speeds on Wind? I read they just recently finished upgrading all their towers to the HSPA+ standard and are now working on rolling out dual carrier HSPA+ also . Will be interesting to see how it fairs against Rogers 3G network once I get the phone and how well the Moto X's antenna can pick up Wind's signals
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mrbuddy said:
Sorry, can't help. Ended up buying Nexus 5. I wish I was in Wind's service area but am not so never looked into that.
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Bummer. The nexus 5 seems like a great device though was seriously considering it but touchless control and active display features of the moto x won me over.

Don't expect LTE speeds obviously, but they are fast enough for everything I do and I never worry about speeds. That includes streaming YouTube and music on my commute.
Anyway, i just did 5 speed tests standing in the same spot. The server was a bigger factor than the network I found. From top to bottom: Start, Teksavvy, Vmedia, Zero fail, Zero fail. All servers were listed as 14km away in "Toronto". I'm pretty sure this app is just computing the distance to downtown and not the actual server...
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Moto X personal pickup

Now that the awesome Moto X is available on T Mobile, I plan to buy one and get it unlocked to use internationally. However, I would like to know if there is any way I could pick one up from a brick and mortar TMo store or the only option I have is to order online and have it shipped to me?

anirudh412 said:
Now that the awesome Moto X is available on T Mobile, I plan to buy one and get it unlocked to use internationally. However, I would like to know if there is any way I could pick one up from a brick and mortar TMo store or the only option I have is to order online and have it shipped to me?
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I believe you can pick up the non-Moto Maker one at a corporate store (if they're anything like Verizon), but if you want Moto Maker, you have to get it shipped to you. The non-Moto Maker only comes in either Black front, Black weave back or White front, White weave back. If you want any of the customization you have to get it shipped to you.

meant2live218 said:
I believe you can pick up the non-Moto Maker one at a corporate store (if they're anything like Verizon), but if you want Moto Maker, you have to get it shipped to you. The non-Moto Maker only comes in either Black front, Black weave back or White front, White weave back. If you want any of the customization you have to get it shipped to you.
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Yeah, dont really care about the moto maker stuff (even though its really cool). I much prefer having a base black to which I can add skins, so that I can peel them away when I get bored.
Can someone confirm if Moto Xs are available in T-Mo stores?

anirudh412 said:
Yeah, dont really care about the moto maker stuff (even though its really cool). I much prefer having a base black to which I can add skins, so that I can peel them away when I get bored.
Can someone confirm if Moto Xs are available in T-Mo stores?
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Why not just call your local store and ask.
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anirudh412 said:
Yeah, dont really care about the moto maker stuff (even though its really cool). I much prefer having a base black to which I can add skins, so that I can peel them away when I get bored.
Can someone confirm if Moto Xs are available in T-Mo stores?
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No, unfortunately T-Mobile is the only carrier that isn't carrying the Moto X in store.
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linuxgator said:
Why not just call your local store and ask.
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Out of country right now

they aren't carrying them in store.
i don tthink t-mobile really is "selling" this phone per se. like they sell the nexus 5 in store. but this phone is more like. well you can get sim cards at t-mobile and it will support the bands and thats it.
as far as t-mobile corporate cares this phone is probaby the same as you buying a european or asian market GSM phone.
when i go into "my tmobile" it cant even detect what phone it is, as they dont even have the IMEI list just like any foreign phone.

Which stores (apart from TMo) carry them? Just looking to get a black one

anirudh412 said:
Which stores (apart from TMo) carry them? Just looking to get a black one
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You can get it from ATT local store which is also gsm carrier and then get it unlocked to use it abroad. Also it will have the ugly carrier logo on the back of the device.
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kirdroid said:
You can get it from ATT local store which is also gsm carrier and then get it unlocked to use it abroad. Also it will have the ugly carrier logo on the back of the device.
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How do I get it unlocked? There are people on local craigslist selling their AT&T phones for around 380. Can I buy that and use an unlock service? Has any one tried one before?
As far as the carrier logo goes, I plan to use a skin anyway. The only thing I would be sacrificing would be the locked BL.
TIA

anirudh412 said:
How do I get it unlocked? There are people on local craigslist selling their AT&T phones for around 380. Can I buy that and use an unlock service? Has any one tried one before?
As far as the carrier logo goes, I plan to use a skin anyway. The only thing I would be sacrificing would be the locked BL.
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Lots of places online sell unlock codes so that is fine.
Carrier logo can rub off with rubbing alcohol. Friend of mine did it and looks perfect

Tmobile version is Sim unlock .
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Indian here. Planning on getting a 32GB Moto X. Need to know if it'll work in India.

Hi. I'm based in Bangalore, India. I plan to get a 32GB Moto X with a Bamboo back from a friend in the States. I have a few questions about it, if anybody would be kind to help that'd be awesome.
1) Is there an unlocked version of the device and will it work in India?
2) How much would the device cost me including tax? I know tax laws are different according to state but I'd like to know the price range it would fall in.
3) More general questions about the phone: Is it of a durable build quality? How's the camera? I've read a ton of reviews but I want to know some real life comments. Also, I don't want to accidentally crack my screen from the smallest drop and get into the trouble of having to send the phone overseas back to the USA for customer support.

Pm me I'll tell u in detailed
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It should work in india. I sent an att moto x and my friend is using it from 3 months. Normal moto x from motomaker would cost you 399+tax. Not sure about the wooden ones. Camera is bad other than that everything is great in this phone

Camera ain't bad better than most of phones
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zeabagsfull said:
Hi. I'm based in Bangalore, India. I plan to get a 32GB Moto X with a Bamboo back from a friend in the States. I have a few questions about it, if anybody would be kind to help that'd be awesome.
1) Is there an unlocked version of the device and will it work in India?
2) How much would the device cost me including tax? I know tax laws are different according to state but I'd like to know the price range it would fall in.
3) More general questions about the phone: Is it of a durable build quality? How's the camera? I've read a ton of reviews but I want to know some real life comments. Also, I don't want to accidentally crack my screen from the smallest drop and get into the trouble of having to send the phone overseas back to the USA for customer support.
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Works perfectly man, but obviously we dont have 4G but everything else just works fine!! I am on Vodafone... Bangalore!

But don't get Verizon or att customized version of the Verizon or att doesn't work on gsm
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L7iharsha said:
But don't get Verizon or att customized version of the Verizon or att doesn't work on gsm
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Wat. I think you mean Sprint. AT&T is a GSM network...

Sprint cdma doesn't work with Indian gsm carriers and Att customized not unlockable and recently I got Customized Verizon one I can't use gsm reason Verizon blocked gsm only I can use cdma
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If you use gsm and want a moto maker one with bamboo, etc, your best option is the t mobile version. Its the same hardware as the gsm Dev edition, is factory Sim unlocked, and carries the most freq bands.
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Actually I'm getting signal but only few minutes and immediately it showing emergency only or no service but one weird thing is I can access internet whatever 3G or 2G
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I have ordered Moto x 16GB unlocked which cost me 423$ --> 24$ tax for Pennsylvania

Sorry for hijacking this thread. I thought it better to post in this one than start a new one since my query is similar.
My question is which edition of Moto X is being sold in India? It is definitely an unlocked gsm phone as far as I know.
I would be moving to California for a little while and was wondering if I could use my Indian Moto X there on a prepaid gsm network like T-Mobile.
Any help would be appreciated.
Can't post the link to the Indian Moto x here due to new member restrictions. But it's being sold exclusively on flipkart.com

[Q] will vzw nexus 6 have locked bootloader?

With big red's habit of keeping their users from actually customizing their devices, would it be safe to assume that they are going to lock the bootloader on the nexus 6 just like they did with my gorgeous - but bone stock - GS5? (SM-G900V)
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~illushinz

To be honest, I am scared of Verizons evil deeds, but I can see Google putting up a fight for too much carrier customization. At worst, maybe sim locked and a Verizon logo. Same thing as ATT did, but that's why u get the unlocked version from the Play store, Motorola, Sprint, or T-Mobile.

but that's why u get the unlocked version from the Play store, Motorola, Sprint, or T-Mobile.
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- TRUE
Of course, I'm on a federal vzw plan at work, which means unlimited data, (which i ain't about to give up) and means vzw retail devices, straight from big red..... Doh!

Bone stock galaxy s5? A bit of an oxymoron.
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illushinz said:
With big red's habit of keeping their users from actually customizing their devices, would it be safe to assume that they are going to lock the bootloader on the nexus 6 just like they did with my gorgeous - but bone stock - GS5? (SM-G900V)
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No. If the bootloader couldn't easily be unlocked, it wouldn't be a Nexus. It would be a Droid Turdo.

illushinz said:
With big red's habit of keeping their users from actually customizing their devices, would it be safe to assume that they are going to lock the bootloader on the nexus 6 just like they did with my gorgeous - but bone stock - GS5? (SM-G900V)
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But there has been no word that they will really get one...and if so not soon

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Bone stock galaxy s5? A bit of an oxymoron.
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Lol, quite true
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I too am beginning to wonder if they are going to even get it.

illushinz said:
With big red's habit of keeping their users from actually customizing their devices, would it be safe to assume that they are going to lock the bootloader on the nexus 6 just like they did with my gorgeous - but bone stock - GS5? (SM-G900V)
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Yes, they most certainly will lock the bootloader

mikaeldalc said:
To be honest, I am scared of Verizons evil deeds, but I can see Google putting up a fight for too much carrier customization. At worst, maybe sim locked and a Verizon logo. Same thing as ATT did, but that's why u get the unlocked version from the Play store, Motorola, Sprint, or T-Mobile.
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VZW doesn't SIM lock devices anymore.
They will, however, encrypt bootloaders.

Not a snowball's chance in hell that the bootloader will be locked.
Mark this post and come back and thank it when you see I'm right. I'll donate money to charity if I'm wrong.

aes512 said:
Yes, they most certainly will lock the bootloader
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But it will be unlockable easily.

Ordered from moto. Popped in Sim from Verizon. Unlocked and rooted. F big red

bmwh0r3 said:
Ordered from moto. Popped in Sim from Verizon. Unlocked and rooted. F big red
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Got mine from best buy. Same thing - Sim in and away I went.
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Man I wish I wasn't locked into big red......
~illushinz
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It's hopeless
Mark MY words and come back to it and if I'm wrong I will donate to charity. The Nexus 6 will NOT be coming to Verizon. They will release a very very similar phone all marked up with Verizon labels with some type of "Droid" branding called the super duper turbo that will indeed have a locked bootloader and all sorts of bloat ware crap strung throughout the Motorola skinned app drawer... sorry I'm just a bitter Verizon customer stuck in a harsh reality!

If you can afford it, buy from google or Motorola. Slap in a nano Sim card from Verizon. It works. Got my nexus Thursday and swapped the Sim out of my moto x. Been using it since. Sold my moto x along with my note 3. Downloaded youmail and unsubscribed from Verizon visual voicemail.

I don't see why it would be locked. The Galaxy Nexus wasn't. I'm so glad my Galaxy Nexus SIM card works on the nsix. Lol with a serious trimming down...

illushinz said:
Man I wish I wasn't locked into big red......
~illushinz
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you can't buy it on your own from moto or play? i did and dropped my VZW sim from the moto x in it and it works great !

illushinz said:
Man I wish I wasn't locked into big red......
~illushinz
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I got my N6 directly from Moto and popped in my VZW sim without a hitch.
I'll say this... I used my OnePlus on TMobile for 6 months and their network is TRASH in comparison. This was after a summer of traveling around the U.S., traveling for work, and a few driving getaways. If TMo works in your neighborhood and you never leave it, then more power to you. If not, I'm here to tell you, VZW may be a-holes when it comes to devices but their network is no joke. Don't suffer from "the grass-is-greener" syndrome.