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[Q] Thoughts about Captivate Lock Key

Hello,
I just got a Captivate from AT&T, quickly I found that i need to press the lock key tens of times a day as I set display off at 30 sec.
Unblocking the phone does not bother me but I am concern if this sooner than later will break the lock button, so I would like to hear your comments with the 15 days I have to return the phone.
Also, is there any app that let me turn off the screen and re-activate the phone just touching the screen.
Thanks

Maybe try an application called Screebl?
It won't activate the screen when you touch it, but it will keep it alive while you're holding you're phone. So you can set your screen timeout to 15 seconds, but while your phone is tilted a certain way, it'll keep the screen on. It'll at least save you the need to push the power button to turn the screen back on while you're using it.
You might also be able to use Tasker to wake up the screen when the phone detects motion or held a certain way (but i'm not too sure about this)

aletsm said:
Hello,
I just got a Captivate from AT&T, quickly I found that i need to press the lock key tens of times a day as I set display off at 30 sec.
Unblocking the phone does not bother me but I am concern if this sooner than later will break the lock button, so I would like to hear your comments with the 15 days I have to return the phone.
Also, is there any app that let me turn off the screen and re-activate the phone just touching the screen.
Thanks
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I had an iphone for 2 years and pressed the home key for everything... on and home - so I am not to worried about the captivate.

Thanks for the comments

"no lock" on the market can disable the lock screen so that you can unlock with just the button. There is also a setting for the time before the screen turns off, I find one minute much better than thirty seconds.
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I may be missing it but was hoping for a way that you could set the phone's screen to go off after X amount of time (say 1 minute) but still be able to just press the lock button to turn it back on), but for it to turn off and also passcode lock after Y amount of time (maybe 5 minutes) so that you don't have to either have the passcode lock off completely or on completely, but set on a certain amount of time...
I probably just made no sense, lol

Brynn85 said:
I may be missing it but was hoping for a way that you could set the phone's screen to go off after X amount of time (say 1 minute) but still be able to just press the lock button to turn it back on), but for it to turn off and also passcode lock after Y amount of time (maybe 5 minutes) so that you don't have to either have the passcode lock off completely or on completely, but set on a certain amount of time...
I probably just made no sense, lol
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you mean just like the iphone where passcode doesn't kick in till after the phone's screen has been off for a certain period of time (that you pick in settings).

n19htmare said:
you mean just like the iphone where passcode doesn't kick in till after the phone's screen has been off for a certain period of time (that you pick in settings).
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Ummm yep, that's pretty much what I mean

If possible this would be great!

There is an app called lock delay in the market that will do what you are looking for.
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Ooh, any idea how it interacts with no lock? I think I'll try it and see.
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There is an even better app, that does EXACTLY what you are talking about. It's called Pattern Control, it's free from the Market as well. I use it now after trying about 6 different apps. Only problem is, it will NOT work on FroYo.

miztaken1312 said:
There is an even better app, that does EXACTLY what you are talking about. It's called Pattern Control, it's free from the Market as well. I use it now after trying about 6 different apps. Only problem is, it will NOT work on FroYo.
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Well, I tried Pattern Control, and it does NOT do what I think is being said. On mine it said that since no pattern is set up, it can't do anything.
First we are not talking about the time before the screen dims and goes black. We are talking about the time before the screen goes into lock and requires a swipe (assuming there is no lock code on the phone) to get back to usable screen. Screen indeed may be black, and touch on power button brings up the "Phone locked" screen.
We want to be able to set the time before THAT lock happens to be longer. Ok if screen goes to black as set in Settings>Sound and Display>Screen Timeout, but we want it to still be unlocked (until the lock time we set is reached) so that when brought back to life before the lock time expires, no swipe is needed.

How To: Note 4 "OK Google" Working With Screen Off

No root, no need to download or install anything.
This work for other devices as well as the Note 4. This enables the Google now "Ok Google" Feature where you can active Google now while the screen is off. This is something like the Moto X feature.
How To:
1) Open Google Now
2) Go to Google Now Settings
3) Click on "Voice"
4) Enable "Audio History"
5) Click "Ok Google Detection"
6)Click "Always on" and follow the remaining directions.
You Can also watch this How To Video if you want:
If you device is unsupported or it just wont work, then there is an app called "Open Mic+ for Google Now" which does this for you.
This also works on the Lg G3, Nexus 5, and Galaxy S5, from what I know. Please feel free to try other devices and let me know if they work as well.

The question is, will this murder your battery and leave it on the side of the road? :laugh:

I am just going to use S Voice and program whatever saying I want to wake up the Note 4. Easy peasy.

EP2008 said:
The question is, will this murder your battery and leave it on the side of the road? :laugh:
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I woke up today to find out my phone was still on with 1%. I went to sleep with it at 2%. I also had it on all day and it does nothing to the battery at all. Try it out let me know if you get the same results.

followed the instruction but when i turn the screen off and say "ok google" the beep sound come on but the screen doesn't turn on nor listen to my command but it rather stop listening and just show "say ok google, or tap mic button"

blackout720 said:
I woke up today to find out my phone was still on with 1%. I went to sleep with it at 2%. I also had it on all day and it does nothing to the battery at all. Try it out let me know if you get the same results.
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Video says this will only work without a secure lockscreen, so I'll have to pass

i found that "ok google" works with a lock screen if you have the phone plugged in and charging. It doesn't work with a lock screen if the phone is unplugged. for me at least.

randpost said:
i found that "ok google" works with a lock screen if you have the phone plugged in and charging. It doesn't work with a lock screen if the phone is unplugged. for me at least.
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I didn't try that, interesting. Now do you mean it by passes the lock screen or does it tell you while its still locked?

blackout720 said:
I didn't try that, interesting. Now do you mean it by passes the lock screen or does it tell you while its still locked?
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It doesn't unlock the screen. Google now pops up while locked.

Noticed any battery drain? I still have no issues.

randpost said:
i found that "ok google" works with a lock screen if you have the phone plugged in and charging. It doesn't work with a lock screen if the phone is unplugged. for me at least.
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There is a checkbox for wakeup with screen locked

I used this feature last night while sleeping. I tend to wake up a few times in the night affraid i am late for work.
"Ok Google, what time is it?"
Worked like a charm but the wife hated it. I did not notice any battery drain to be honest.

Would be nice to have your own phrase,

s.morris said:
Would be nice to have your own phrase,
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s voice does the same with your own custom phrase:good:

ant78 said:
s voice does the same with your own custom phrase:good:
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Ok google when screen is off, is a real hit or miss situation. I've tried saying the phrase 5 times over and nothing. If I'm on the screen app thats google with the microphone greyed out and say OK google it does it everytime but with the screen off, not that much, kind of a waste. I hope maybe with an update from google or samsung this gets better recognition.

abacus0101 said:
Ok google when screen is off, is a real hit or miss situation. I've tried saying the phrase 5 times over and nothing. If I'm on the screen app thats google with the microphone greyed out and say OK google it does it everytime but with the screen off, not that much, kind of a waste. I hope maybe with an update from google or samsung this gets better recognition.
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I have experienced this as well but only when I haven't used it for a long period.

Works every time for me. I even have a noisy environment with a 2yr girl running about and the television on. Take about 2-3secs to turn screen on though. I was worried about security as I have screen lock with fingerprint and the fact that you can get to Internet search and ask Google to open an app on the phone but it seems to go back to lock screen if you try anything like that but I bet that this is a short hop to being able to gain access to part of a locked phone that you think is secure unless it just makes the G-Now features simply an overlay on the lockscreen. I will be turning this off for time being.

Hello. It's working only in english langage not in French.
Envoyé de mon SM-N910F en utilisant Tapatalk

Good. The french could use some more english in their diet .

There is no battery drain and it does work properly with screen off, but you should register your voice in the process (say ok google louder, quiters, faster, slower) and it will recognize it good.

[Q] unlocking without fingerprint?

Somehow my phone unlocks itself in my pocket without my finger print. I have all those recognized devices setting disabled.
It's done it 3 times or so now. Today it just set up like 6 new home screens, turned on NFC, and it always calls or texts my little sister, never anyone else. The phone was just in my pocket while I was sitting here using the computer, I hadn't touched it physically in an hour.
I have the lock screen setup using fingerprint or passcode. Fingerprint scanner seems to work fine otherwise.
Stock rooted MM, not even debloated.
Any ideas? I'd get rid of it but there really isn't anything out I am interested in currently.

Do you have any trusted devices associated with it? Sounds like that may be the problem, or nfc tags if you have any
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I have my house as a trusted zone, but it is not enabled in the settings. I disabled it due to it not being very trustworthy. I keep BT and NFC turned off all the time as I don't use them.. There shouldn't be any way for this phone to unlock in my pocket, as far as i can tell.
I'm wondering if it's a 6.0 upgrade glitch, I've noticed a few oddities, such as the "safe volume" resetting itself after days of use, randomly. It should only ask you if you're sure after restarting the phone, but sometimes it will just kick in, lower the volume below the threshold, and the warning box will come back up. I listen to my phone ~8 hrs a day at work.

OK Google, working fine from screen off , but

I have tested OK Google to respond to my commands , from sleep, for the past few days. with positive results.
Ok Google, responds when screen is off /sleep mode.
If your data is on, it will return a result eg Weather report, time eg.
I have tested it with lock screen.
Fingerprint, Pin working fine.
Also no lockscreen, working fine.
However it cannot turn screen on
As Google, is enabled in my Edge Lighting settings
when i say Ok Google, my Edge Lighting "lights up " and Ok Google will respond to my command.
( See screenshot.)
On my previous handsets Ok Google only worked
when screen was on.Never from sleep /screen off.
Any alternative info, results ?

but what ?
this is good news.

Ok Google works, but....
if screen can turn on, it would be 100 %
Best scenario will be to try youself and see what your results is.?
Same or otherwise?
As in past,
Xda members using Samsung devices
eg Note 5 or S8 etc could not get Ok to wake from
sleep /off. Samsung restricted ?
I posted OK Google results as there's
been a few threads on older to current devices
try to get Ok Google to wake/respond, from sleep.

Odd. My Note 8 screen will turn on and unlock when I say "OK Google". I've only tested this at home though, and I have Smart Lock keep my phone bypass fingerprint/PIN at home. Will try later somewhere else.
Wait, I just noticed on Smart Lock setting that there's a section for "OK Google detection". Maybe you have yours turned off? Say "Smart Lock" to Bixby or go to Settings>Lock Screen and Security>Smart Lock>Trusted Voice>OK Google detection and turn on the two options there ("say 'OK Google' at any time" and "Trusted Voice")

I've been using Bixby and everything seems to work OK and if she has a hiccup I help her with it (trying to build my pay points lol) but yeah try with Bixby and see if there is a difference

willcor said:
I have tested OK Google to respond to my commands , from sleep, for the past few days. with positive results.
Ok Google, responds when screen is off /sleep mode.
If your data is on, it will return a result eg Weather report, time eg.
I have tested it with lock screen.
Fingerprint, Pin working fine.
Also no lockscreen, working fine.
However it cannot turn screen on
As Google, is enabled in my Edge Lighting settings
when i say Ok Google, my Edge Lighting "lights up " and Ok Google will respond to my command.
( See screenshot.)
On my previous handsets Ok Google only worked
when screen was on.Never from sleep /screen off.
Any alternative info, results ?
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is this with the stock launcher?

danon.brown said:
is this with the stock launcher?
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I'm using Nova Prime.
However, i switched over to stock launcher, TouchWiz /Samsung Experience, and it was working fine.
As stated in previous threads (in past) you could not
wake device with Ok Google.
Yes with the Note 4 or previously you could.
With Note 5 etc it was suddenly not possible.
(Samsung ?)

harveydent said:
Odd. My Note 8 screen will turn on and unlock when I say "OK Google". I've only tested this at home though, and I have Smart Lock keep my phone bypass fingerprint/PIN at home. Will try later somewhere else.
Wait, I just noticed on Smart Lock setting that there's a section for "OK Google detection". Maybe you have yours turned off? Say "Smart Lock" to Bixby or go to Settings>Lock Screen and Security>Smart Lock>Trusted Voice>OK Google detection and turn on the two options there ("say 'OK Google' at any time" and "Trusted Voice")
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Yes , when i tested it Smart Lock was off/not enabled ,but configured .
I don't use lockscreen ,
as phone is in a case .So Smart Lock won't work
OK Google wake up ,
works overall without lock screen or lock screen with Smart lock enable or not .
Point is ,
that you could not wake OK Google from sleep ( Samsung restricted ?)
Question is ,
what did Samsung do ,that Ok Google works .?
or did Samsung "slip up "/ bug ,that it works.?
and this( not turning screen on ) is the reason why it works fine , but does not/.cannot,turn screen on ?
Maybe later Samsung restricts it again .?

willcor said:
Yes , when i tested it Smart Lock was off/not enabled ,but configured .
I don't use lockscreen ,
as phone is in a case .So Smart Lock won't work
OK Google wake up ,
works overall without lock screen or lock screen with Smart lock enable or not .
Point is ,
that you could not wake OK Google from sleep ( Samsung restricted ?)
Question is ,
what did Samsung do ,that Ok Google works .?
or did Samsung "slip up "/ bug ,that it works.?
and this( not turning screen on ) is the reason why it works fine , but does not/.cannot,turn screen on ?
Maybe later Samsung restricts it again .?
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there is an option in the Google settings "Say ok Google anytime"

danon.brown said:
there is an option in the Google settings "Say ok Google anytime"
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Yes, all my settings are correct.
The option you refer to, I'm aware of, it's enable.
My take on Ok Google waking screen, (which
it had never over past years done) , is Samsung
restricted it in favour of S voice and now with Bixby.
However somewhere they let it "slip" and Ok Google
wakes up from sleep.
My take on this us if Samsung realizes
it, they will again restict Ok Google wake up.
Even though on other handset brands, Ok
Google wakeup works fine.
Just on Samsung phones i believe it's a issue.?
Otherwise my Ok Google and Google Assistant and Bixby is working 100 %.
No other issues with them.

I don't understand what your problem is. You're saying it is waking up but not waking up in some circumstances? Samsung hasn't restricted anything on this phone (Note 8) as far as I can tell. I'm able to get my screen to unlock from sleep by saying "Okay Google." The phone unlocks and the screen turns on and goes to the Assistant app as expected.
What exactly is wrong on your end?

This is also on my s7,s8. I don't think it's note 8 specific.
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When I say Ok Google...all I get is a buzz...then a buzz after my command...but no other results.

SiNJiN76 said:
When I say Ok Google...all I get is a buzz...then a buzz after my command...but no other results.
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You may have to clear cache of the Google app and set it up again. I had to do that after I installed Nova and turned on the hotword button.
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danon.brown said:
You may have to clear cache of the Google app and set it up again. I had to do that after I installed Nova and turned on the hotword button.
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Nice! That worked. Prior to it...I guess if I unlocked the phone real quick, it would give me the answer. But now it just does it with the screen off. Thanks. :good: Now is there a way to get a chime instead of a buzz?

After setting up voice and resetting data. Google assistant was reset and setup. Now the Screen turns on when I say OK Google. Ok. Worked Once.

I just wish it would by pass my pin and or fingerprint but I understand anyone that may sound like me could say ok Google and get into my phone....but it would be dope if I say ok Google and it bypasses locks because it knows my voice specifically

peacey8 said:
I don't understand what your problem is. You're saying it is waking up but not waking up in some circumstances? Samsung hasn't restricted anything on this phone (Note 8) as far as I can tell. I'm able to get my screen to unlock from sleep by saying "Okay Google." The phone unlocks and the screen turns on and goes to the Assistant app as expected.
What exactly is wrong on your end?
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I'm not just talking about Note 8.
The past few years, on on previous Samsung
devices, you could not wake Ok Google from
sleep.
There were quite a few threads (over the years) discussing this issue and how to "fix" issues.
It was obvious from previous thread discussions that Samsung had something to do with phone not able to wake from sleep. (Restricted?)
Otherwise Ok Google worked fine.
I can recall the last Samsung device, that could do this
eg. waking from sleep and responding to commands, was my Note 4.
In my case with Note 8, Ok Google works fine, waking from sleep and responding to commands..
However my screen lights up, but does not turn screen on.
Screen stays black, but Ok Google working fine.
I'm looking to see if other members have a similar
issue /experience, with Ok Google waking etc, but not turning screen on.?
On your side,
it seems like you got no issues with
Ok Google turning screen on.

danon.brown said:
This is also on my s7,s8. I don't think it's note 8 specific.
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Yes i agree.
It's not just Note 8.
I had this issues since Note 5 days.
This is why i maintain Samsung
had something to do with it (over the years)
Maybe as result of Knox and security issues.,who knows?
But now on Note 8,
Ok Google is able to wake from sleep again.

willcor said:
I'm not just talking about Note 8.
The past few years, on on previous Samsung
devices, you could not wake Ok Google from
sleep.
There were quite a few threads (over the years) discussing this issue and how to "fix" issues.
It was obvious from previous thread discussions that Samsung had something to do with phone not able to wake from sleep. (Restricted?)
Otherwise Ok Google worked fine.
I can recall the last Samsung device, that could do this
eg. waking from sleep and responding to commands, was my Note 4.
In my case with Note 8, Ok Google works fine, waking from sleep and responding to commands..
However my screen lights up, but does not turn screen on.
Screen stays black, but Ok Google working fine.
I'm looking to see if other members have a similar
issue /experience, with Ok Google waking etc, but not turning screen on.?
On your side,
it seems like you got no issues with
Ok Google turning screen on.
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Try clearing the cache of the Google app and setting it up again.
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Question Lock after screen timeout for the lockscreen is completely gone

Also called "lock timer" under secure lock settings. I can't find it anywhere in the settings! This has been a feature for years. I refuse to use face unlock or fingerprint unlock. This feature temporarily disabled the pattern or PIN unlock for a certain amount of time you set it. For example, you would only have to unlock your device every 2 minutes if you set it this way but during those 2 minutes you could turn your phone on and off without it asking for a password.

StarbuxMcCloud said:
Also called "lock timer" under secure lock settings. I can't find it anywhere in the settings! This has been a feature for years. I refuse to use face unlock or fingerprint unlock. This feature temporarily disabled the pattern or PIN unlock for a certain amount of time you set it. For example, you would only have to unlock your device every 2 minutes if you set it this way but during those 2 minutes you could turn your phone on and off without it asking for a password.
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Yes! We need that feature again! What if your phone gets stolen in that period of time? People can unlock it no problem! I too searched everywhere without any luck!

Same d*mn thing on my OnePlus Nord. I need the screen to time out to save battery, but I want to manage security separately from battery - under most of my operational conditions, it's fine for the device to be able to be awakened withOUT having to re(-re(-re(-re...))))enter the PIN every few minutes just because the screen turned off to save energy.
It's completely wrong to take away the OPTION for us to choose this combination. Everyone has different security needs; we mustn't be shoved into one too-simplistic bucket!