Is it possible to change your user status to root status temporarily like revert to normal after reboot? Like on linux you can get super user rights for a short time. But what I want is to not change the system and not trip knox.
What I'm thinking is that somewhere in the android/linux system there must be a way to officially get root like for maintenance. That's how SE-Linux usually works, there should be a way to change your 'role' from user to administrator.
So is there a way without messing with the bootloader or the system partition?
That would allow for people to backup with like Titanium without loosing official status.
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I have a Samsung Galaxy tablet 7'' and I installed Application Protection. Well I forgot the password and now I can't access any of the settings or most of the apps. I really don't want to hard reset it because I have alot of stuff that I will loose that is not on the sd card. I have used adb before on my droid x but unfortunately usb debugging is not enabled on my tab to access it. I can't enable it in the os. The only unrestricted access I have to my knowledge is the recovery console, which allows me to factory reset(last resort) or update.zip. I have been playing with an update.zip creator script and was wondering is there a way to enable usb debugging with an update.zip or more likely remove the application protection app with an update.zip.
Is it possible to delete this app with an update.zip. I believe this app is stored in data/app/com.ruimaninfo.approtect-1.apk
I would appreciate any help...
Brian
Can I create an update.zip to remove an app on my phone?
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Can you uninstall the app or do you not have access to the Market?
if you are rooted , just go through data and then find your app name , or just search by root explorer with your app name and then after root explorer find it delete it
or if you have the androidSDK and you are not rooted just download the software called QtADB_0.8.0_windows_with_libs
and then use it to brows your files at least to take them all out
Unfortunately I have basically no access on my tab because I lost the password to Application Protection and it has everything restricted. I also don't have root access or I would be able to remove the app very easily. I also can't use adb unless I can figure away to enable usb debugging, but can't access the settings due to Application Protection app. I know exactly where the app is stored on the phone but can't get into the directory because I don't have root access.
The only thing that I can use to my knowledge is update.zip in recovery and again I don't have root so I just have the basic recovery menu. I tried making an update.zip to install an app but couldn't get it to work.
What I really want is to make an update.zip to delete data/app/com.ruimaninfo.approtect-1.apk
It's definately a challenge and I will keep working on a way to remove it.
I did find that I have ANDFTP with unrestricted access that does allow me to delete any files in the system but again doesn't show anything under data/app folder because I don't have root access. Maybe the data for the app is stored elsewhere?
Power and volume up key takes you to recovery. Then you can do a factory reset, which wipes all installed apps and user data.
Thanks, but I know how to do a factory reset. I am trying to fix this without loosing everything.
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Can you use adb to make your back up? Then reset?
JBrian420 said:
Thanks, but I know how to do a factory reset. I am trying to fix this without loosing everything.
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Woww...you guys blown my mind away. Nice, keep up the discussion and I would like to know more from those genius people here
why you don't ask the dev of the app ? sure he got (secret password)
or just download the software i mentioned above and you'll solve it in seconds
here is what i found
Keep your private app/data in secure before allow other people use your phone
Application Protection help to protect applications and data in case other people or child get your phone to:
* install some app or malware you don't want to
* see your private info you don't want to share
* change setting of your phone by accident
(Note: lock behavior can be changed in setting to save effort to unlock)
* send email to configured email box after input wrong code 10 times
(IMPORTANT: Default setting is to send email to [email protected] in case of user lost the code. Strongly recommend user to set your email box in setting)
read it , its in the app info
Tried that too but unfortunately didn't set a email either and developer isn't returning any of my emails either.
Update.zip has gotta be my only chance without reseting my phone.
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So, did it work? Because I have a similar problem: I'm locket out of a Lifetab from a friend of my brother. The only difference is, I know the password, but the Android keyboard kept force closing, so I disabled it. Then without thinking I rebooted.
Is there a way to enable that app again trough adb, or did you succeed in making an update.zip that resets the password?
I was wondering if it's possible to root, install a custom recovery, ROM and kernel, and then unroot with that setup? I would like the performance improvements that come with a custom ROM and kernel, but need to be unrooted to run some apps (one being an app for work). Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I was wondering if it's possible to root, install a custom recovery, ROM and kernel, and then unroot with that setup? I would like the performance improvements that come with a custom ROM and kernel, but need to be unrooted to run some apps (one being an app for work). Any help is greatly appreciated.
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I believe that you could use the SuperSU application to disable root.
If that doesn't work, OTArootkeeper will actually allow you to make a backup of your root and then delete the regular root. When you need root again you just restore the backup.
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I believe that you could use the SuperSU application to disable root.
If that doesn't work, OTArootkeeper will actually allow you to make a backup of your root and then delete the regular root. When you need root again you just restore the backup.
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So disable root with SuperuserSU, then I could uninstall SuperuserSU? I believe the app for work will detect if Superuser or SuperuserSU are installed.
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psousa781 said:
So disable root with SuperuserSU, then I could uninstall SuperuserSU? I believe the app for work will detect if Superuser or SuperuserSU are installed.
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I kinda doubt it would notice. If root is disabled than it shouldn't be able to access whether or not other apps are installed. But you probably want to wait for a second opinion on that. I'm knowledgeable but I'm not a guru.
Thanks man, I appreciate the help.
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You mentioned "custom kernel".
As near as I can tell some kernel devs have been shipping just a bare kernel (zImage, etc), and others provide flashable boot images - that is, kernel + ramdisk.
If the "kernels" which include a ramdisk do something typical like set "ro.secure = 0" as a convenience for adb users (in /default.prop et cetera), and your app which "checks for root" inspects this property, then even though you removed SuperSU/Superuser and their corresponding "su" binaries this (as a single example) might cause the root check to still fail.
I guess the point is that you would need to know what exactly the app in question is checking for to know whether your efforts will succeed. It could be one or more of any of these things:
- bootloader lock state (only if it is detectable from the OS, not sure if this can be done)
- presence of a /system/xbin/su or /system/bin/su file
- presence of SuperSU.apk or Superuser.apk in /system/app
- ro.secure value (or others properties such as adb settings etc)
- relative timestamp checks on certain /system directories.
- TiBu installed as an app?
- other ?
I think that it is feasible to detect a non-stock recovery or boot kernel but not very easily with a non-root app - so you can probably get away with having a custom recovery and an unlocked bootloader too.
No way to know in advance though.
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I kinda doubt it would notice. If root is disabled than it shouldn't be able to access whether or not other apps are installed. But you probably want to wait for a second opinion on that. I'm knowledgeable but I'm not a guru.
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This maybe stupid but I had the same issue with my xoom and a few apps not working while rooted. The solution was to go into system then apps and rename the superuser to something else and that fooled the program and it didn't sect root. Maybe try that?
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Hello there, I just rooted my Z3C 5803 phone with the exploit founded yesterday (.93 FW) and first thing I did was to install Titanium Backup because there were a lot of programs I wanted to remove for good from this device and also wanted to integrate newer versions into the Rom. Whenever I try to integrate, for example, a newer YouTube, Google Chrome, Google Play Store version into the Rom, TB seems to keep trying and trying forever.
Checking into the TB FAQ i found this:
"14. I tried to integrate system app updates or to convert user apps to system apps but it didn’t work. Why?
These features require a NAND unlocked ("S-OFF") device, in order to write to the ROM.
Depending on the software, some S-ON devices may "remember" modifications made to /system for a while, or until the next reboot. That is not enough for our purpose.
Please search the Internet for information on how to make your particular device S-OFF."
.......but, of course, for me that is Chinese. Doesn´t mean that if I´m root, I can anything I want to the Rom? If not, what do I need to make the phone S-OFF?
Hope someone could help this noob!
Thanks in advance.
Alx
... never mind - didn't see you posted in another section, too.
You can't make the backup because the sony ric protection dissable write access to /system.
You can dissable ric using this tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57043230
[4.4.4] Sony RIC KILLER to gain write access in system
Yust run the. bat file and let it run.
After that you can make any titanium backup
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i want to use use an app that requires an encrypted phone. the reason is OK but i would rather not encrypt my phone.
is there something like root cloak or no device check that will make a specific app think the phone IS encrypted.
Hello guys! I've been an android user since 2011. I have experience in rooting and unrooting some of my devices but with this phone, P10, I don't want to have root for personal reasons.
There are some personal apps that I need to convert as a system app though.
So does anybody know how to convert a user app to a system app without root? Or root -> convert apps to system app -> unroot.
Most of the guides here about unrooting seems to be flashing to stock.
I have also seen (through searching) threads about moving user apps to system apps and those actually don't answer my question.
If anyone could help me, I would be very grateful!
Thanks!
You could convert most applications to system using Titanium Backup with ease, you will need root, there is no way to write to system without it. You could unroot after it, and uninstall TiB, still, I don't get why you would want to do that, but it's doable.
Floodland said:
You could convert most applications to system using Titanium Backup with ease, you will need root, there is no way to write to system without it. You could unroot after it, and uninstall TiB, still, I don't get why you would want to do that, but it's doable.
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I'd like some apps to be installed as a system app but I don't want root as some bank apps don't play well with them.
So which method of root should I use so that I can unroot and still have my apps as a system app?
Magisk released version 16 specifically to support Huawei devices and our issues. You can pass safety net with it and hide su to damaged applications with it.
On the other hand, not sure if I would trust an Bank which puts the security on the client side as prerequisite to operate.
Do Banks require to their Windows clients not to have administrator user? No, right? (in fact, Windows OS needs a local admin account to operate). As clients we should request equal treatment. Administrator in Windows is as dangerous as root in Linux, so Banks should be honest and stop bothering clients, instead of us having to hide from them...