[Q] Z3C just rooted and Titanium Backup issue - Xperia Z3 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello there, I just rooted my Z3C 5803 phone with the exploit founded yesterday (.93 FW) and first thing I did was to install Titanium Backup because there were a lot of programs I wanted to remove for good from this device and also wanted to integrate newer versions into the Rom. Whenever I try to integrate, for example, a newer YouTube, Google Chrome, Google Play Store version into the Rom, TB seems to keep trying and trying forever.
Checking into the TB FAQ i found this:
"14. I tried to integrate system app updates or to convert user apps to system apps but it didn’t work. Why?
These features require a NAND unlocked ("S-OFF") device, in order to write to the ROM.
Depending on the software, some S-ON devices may "remember" modifications made to /system for a while, or until the next reboot. That is not enough for our purpose.
Please search the Internet for information on how to make your particular device S-OFF."
.......but, of course, for me that is Chinese. Doesn´t mean that if I´m root, I can anything I want to the Rom? If not, what do I need to make the phone S-OFF?
Hope someone could help this noob!
Thanks in advance.
Alx

... never mind - didn't see you posted in another section, too.

You can't make the backup because the sony ric protection dissable write access to /system.
You can dissable ric using this tool http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=57043230
[4.4.4] Sony RIC KILLER to gain write access in system
Yust run the. bat file and let it run.
After that you can make any titanium backup
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REQ: App to make backup and restore all application in one step

Hi guys
i want an application to make a backup from my Application but i want when i want to make a restore operation to install all application without any help or touch from me in other word ( automatic ) is there any program to help me to do that
Sry for my English and thanx for anyone will help me
Titanium Backup...but you need the paid version to do what you are describing.
Titanium Backup is about the best but don't expect it to work perfect..I have paid version on mine and partners phone and on both Titanium Backup often just closes and you have to restart and continue from where it stopped... As yet I have NOT found a good solution for backing up and restoring on Android...
This is one of the reasons my WinMo is still my primary Phone and Android is simply a TOY....
Give Titanium Backup a try may be ok for you...But you will need to paid for it to have the so called on click solution...
thanx guys i will try the paid version and comment about it here soon
Astro has a nice Backup/Restore feature too and its free. For me it always worked perfekly as it creates APKs from your apps (but it does not resore APPdata) and it does not do it in one step because you have to always install the apps separately.
I just threw this in here^^
Titanium Backup is the best for this. It has batch backup and install. So you can install all your backed up files at once, not clicking through each one like all the other programs (Astro, AppBrain). Also it will backup your layout as well so you get the apps right back where they were on your homescreens.
Like mentioned above though it can sometimes be buggy but it is well worth it. Knocked off about 3-4 hours of work each time I flashed a new ROM as I didn't spend all that time messing with apps and layout etc.
Titanium Backup when restore will it ask for each app to give access or not??? as i am using app backup and restore for that it does ask me for each app to install or not.
You need the paid version for it not to keep asking

[HowTo] Remove preinstalled apps - no need to flash custom roms or gold card root!

I know there are some people like myself who actually like Sense and doing a 'full' root can be daunting, especailly if all you want to do is remove the crud that Vodafone or your Telco install on your branded Legend. But there is no reason this can't be used to remove apps that are in a custom ROM - as far as I am aware! If someone with a custom ROM could confirm this, that would be great!
Righto, as per usual here is the disclaimer - doing this is risky and you do so at your own peril! Don't come crying to me or Paul @ MoDaCo if it bricks your phone (it shouldn't but this is just a warning)
Enough of that you get the idea Now for the fun bit!
First if you are not you'll need VISIONary+ from MoDaCo, at the time of this writing r13 is the latest and is available on page 7.
Please read and check the original post as there may be an updated version. If you are rooted skip to the next step.
This is Paul's guide he done quickly on his G2, it's more of a pictorial guide (same rules apply to the Legend as G2 in this case).
Once installed use the Temproot option, this can take 15 seconds or so to complete, use a Terminal Emulator and type su then return/enter and your $ should change to a # - this means you have temproot.
Go to the market and install SuperUser, Titanium Backup, BusyBox.
Open Titanium Backup allowing it root access when prompted, go to Backup/Restore and scroll to find one of the preinstalled bloatware apps, I chose the Vodafone Music app and the Vodafone Web app.
Long hold on the app you want to remove and scroll down a bit and choose the option "Force remove app (by recovery exploit)"
This will reboot your phone TWICE, you will get the recovery screen up - LET IT RUN IT's COURSE! DO NOT INTERRUPT THIS.
Once it boots back into your normal check that the app is no longer in your App drawer
Repeat for all the Apps that came preinstalled that you don't want, just be careful you don't remove anything that may still be needed!
A huge thanks to Paul at MoDaCo for this ingenious hack and the Titanium Backup, BusyBox and SuperUser developers for their hard work in writing their apps which also allow us to easy do this
Oh and you can use the Temproot on boot to have a sortof but not fully permaroot
Great work. I'll try on CM 6.1 RC1. One thing though...If I'm rooted I presume I need only the Titanium backup not VISIONary or other tools, right?
Yes you need the other apps, but you can remove them afterwards if you want. You'll need SuperUser to be able to grant Titanium Backup access, and Titanium Backup requires BusyBox to be installed - Titanium Backup gives you the option to install BusyBox if you press the 'Problems?' button under the Overview tab.
PS: you can use the free version of Titanium Backup for this exercise.
Yes, thank you. I knew about busybox and the option to install it from Titanium. SuperUser I have it already since I'm using CyanogenMod RC1 and it is included in the ROM (I think it is OK like this). So only Titanium (+busybox) needs to be installed.
I'll give it a try and let you know the results. I'll try to remove a rather large application (for ex Google Maps) and I'll install it afterward on the sdcard (since it is system appl, it cannot be moved directly to sdcard)
Later edit: IT WORKS! So I've tried to (and succeeded) remove 2 "system" applications: Google Maps and Calculator. Both were removed and the free space is now available (before 80 Mb free, after 91.2 Mb free).
There was only one issue with Maps, the icon still showed up in the application drawer and it was working (even after going through all above). After several checks I found the reason. The Maps were installed twice...the version included in the CM ROM (that was deleted by this procedure) AND the updated Maps (it once asked for upgrading the application from the market and I did that). After removing the "system installed" version of Google Maps, the "updates" remained. I went to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications and I found Maps there. I've uninstalled the updates then rebooted the phone. After that the icon was gone completely.
To conclude, for CM ROMS (or for all phones that are already rooted and have already the SU application), the steps to be performed for removing a system appl are:
1. Install Titanium Backup
2. Press (as instructed) "Problems" button. This will install a working version of busybox.
3. Check if the application you want to remove, has also updates (from Market or some other places) installed. If YES, go to Settings-Applications-Manage Applications and uninstall all the updates.
4. Start Titanium Backup and perform the steps indicated in the first post by TheLegendaryJay.
So it is working on custom ROM's as well and you don't need VISIONary or other application/tools.
All credits go to Paul, CM team and this whole community, the ones which made such things possible for our phones. TheLegendaryJay, thank you also for sharing this with us. Perhaps for rooted phones it is easier to remove applications with adb commands, but some are maybe not so technical to install the SDK or know how to use it (I can be counted as one of them), or they just might want to remove an application when they don't have a pc with SDK nearby.
yap, can confirm this. works great on cm 6.1 rc1. thanks for the hint
For you guys who are rooted - why not just flash the overlay filesystem patch, enable it, and then use any file explorer and go to /system/app/ and delete the apps you dont want? just a tip, it's much easier.. (and takes less time)
Because one of the reasons for which I wanted to rip out an application from the ROM is to gain some more space... By using overlay system, as I understood, you're practically duplicate the whole system to make it accessible for writing so I don't know if you gain some more space. Eventually you'll have less. Or, if that space is on the sdcard, that does not suit me also cause as I know, is working slower from there. Anyhow, I don't want to detail this here cause we'll be off-topic.
Rapier said:
Because one of the reasons for which I wanted to rip out an application from the ROM is to gain some more space... By using overlay system, as I understood, you're practically duplicate the whole system to make it accessible for writing so I don't know if you gain some more space. Eventually you'll have less. Or, if that space is on the sdcard, that does not suit me also cause as I know, is working slower from there. Anyhow, I don't want to detail this here cause we'll be off-topic.
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As I understand it, the system folder is only linked so the phone believes it's on the SD-card. This should mean, no extra space is taken (except for the few kB that makes this possible). i could be wrong, but I use system overlay and I see no whatsoever decrease in performance. Not in benchmarks nor in usage.
If you are rooted - and dont want system overlay, I still think there is a better wway - ADB! just mount system, cd to system/app, ls it and rm whatever apps ypu dont want.. no need for multiple reboots - quick and effective
adb way might be quicker but it might prove to be ineffective (at least for me it was). In order to remove an application, you must check its filename (with ls command). I've tried to remove Facebook and Twitter applications using adb remove and guess what...they're still there. I admit I might have done something wrong, what I'm saying is that through this new method described above, someone is able to remove an appl by chosing it from a list. For the ones that don't feel so confortable using adb, this is an alternative
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Rapier said:
adb way might be quicker but it might prove to be ineffective (at least for me it was). In order to remove an application, you must check its filename (with ls command). I've tried to remove Facebook and Twitter applications using adb remove and guess what...they're still there. I admit I might have done something wrong, what I'm saying is that through this new method described above, someone is able to remove an appl by chosing it from a list. For the ones that don't feel so confortable using adb, this is an alternative
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When it comes to ADB, you must write the filename exactly as it is, if you want to remove Facebook.apk you must rm Facebook.apk, not facebook.apk or just rm Facebook*
What I do, I ls all files, copy the filenames I want to remove into into a txt file. ex. "rm facebook.apk Torch.apk voiceDialer.apk AndroidTerm.apk" and so on. When I flash a new rom, i just copy that file string and remove em all with that one command ofc. I ls it after and check if there is anything new I want to remove, but I get rid of most of it in a few seconds. (good tip!)
I understood that. Now I've checked again and I know what happened...the same thing I said above. The appl was removed also with adb command but the updates of that appl were not. I've removed the updates from Settings and after that the whole appl was gone (Facebook in this case). So both metods work, everyone can choose what he likes more
Anyway this was much more to test if it's working on custom ROMs as was asked by TheLegendaryJay and less as of providing an alternate way for rooted owners.
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You both are wrong. Overlay is just an overlay... it uses several file systems or parts of file systems (directories, files), merge them and show them to us as one new merged file system. The principle is such that if U have one read-only and one read-write file system merged together, all writes are then performed to that read-write one. If you'd like to delete one file from read-only portion, that action is noted on read-write portion and your system doesn't t see that file again through merged file system whereas it is in fact still there...
BlaY0 said:
You both are wrong. Overlay is just an overlay... it uses several file systems or parts of file systems (directories, files), merge them and show them to us as one new merged file system. The principle is such that if U have one read-only and one read-write file system merged together, all writes are then performed to that read-write one. If you'd like to delete one file from read-only portion, that action is noted on read-write portion and your system doesn't t see that file again through merged file system whereas it is in fact still there...
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thanks for this, great info. Now I'm glad I use adb and not file overlay for removing files
Why's that? Overlay is really handy thing for testing... U can make the system think that the file is not there but in fact is. If something goes wrong (boot loop) because of that, U just disable overlay and U R back on with origial state. After U are satisfied with changes, U can merge those changes into read-only file system via recovery mode.
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BlaY0, you're totally right. Overlay is a great thing for testing (and by the way many thanks you for what you did). But if you're not a tester, just an enthusiast who look for new stuff for his phone, overlay could be much more than he needs.
I'm looking for example to have as much free space in memory as possible. REAL free space. If I'm using overlay, that will not be gained right? The read only files will still be there, only the overlay will show them "deleted". So...what I'm doing instead is that I'm flashing one of the existing ROMs (as per my preferences - CM 6.1 RC1 for ex.) that will not "brick" my phone, I customize it with widgets and applications as I like, than I start deleting what I don't need. For sure I can use overlay for that, but I can do it also without it. This topic presented an alternative for doing that, to the known adb commands. Also from what I've understood, the method in this topic is more aimed to the ones that are not (or don't want to be) rooted. And for those, the adb method doesn't work
You sure are totally right, but then again if you deleted some apk from /system/app that is needed for some other apk and U didn't know about that, you could end up with a so called boot loop. And if this is done by some noob, the simplest way for him to restore would be to wipe and reflash the original ROM. Overay can prevent such accidents. Actually even with overlay you can save space especially where is needed the most, that's on data partition - there's no need for dex in dalvik-cache any more etc. and surely you get more free ram as that app isn't loading any more. For the system partition it actually doesn't matter if it is full in fact why it shouldn't be full. When we get our S-OFF the first thing I will do is to rearange mtd partitions shrinking system and extending data coz now I have like nearly 50 MB free on system partition that I can not use wisely.
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Thanks, VF music and web app not banished from my Legend
Okay, I must be doing something wrong, but I have no idea what. I have the same ROM as Rapier on my Desire, I have Titanium Backup and I did everything he said above. The pre-installed apps are uninstalled with TB (Car app, News and Weather, Facebook, Twitter, Google Voice, Maps, Quickoffice 2.0 which I have no idea what really is), I clear the Dalvik cache and many mega are freed. Then if I reboot, they're back. Like nothing happened.
Do you have any idea or should I give more details? Thanks for the help, guys.
Have you checked also if those applications you're removing do not have some updates installed? Because if they do, you'll get them back on the phone. First remove the updates from each application (from normal "Application" management), then remove the application residing in system with TB.
PS. QuickOffice is a suite program similar with MS Office, that allows you to read (and in the paid version also to write) office documents (.doc, .xls, .ppt...etc)
Thank you for your quick reply.
Yes, I have checked and uninstalled all updates. They are all with the basic version.
About Quickoffice, I know what it is It's just that the one that came with CM 6.1.0 RC1 cannot be accessed, it can only be used to open supported file formats (I just found out after posting here ). I'd prefer the normal Quickoffice with which I can access my dropbox and Google docs too, that's why I wanted to uninstall this in the first place.

[Q] Min reqs for app install

I have recently purchased the GT-P1000 in Kuwait. It's unlocked but I don't have admin rights to it. Initially, there was no Android Market but I found the fix for that in another post.
My current dilemma now is I can't seem to get apps to install. The downloads will pause themselves and never install the application. I've had this happen to Angry Birds and Robo Defense.
As of now, I have no desire to flash this device. AFAIK, it's 3g voice/data straight out of the box and I don't want to risk losing those features.
Now, the question is, what's the bare minimum I need to do so I can install apps from Android Market and remove unwanted apps?
So I feel like an idiot now. For some reason, I can now get the apps to download and install: Angry Birds, Robo Defense, ES File Explorer, and Dropbox have installed successfully.
I still would like to remove some apps and install some that will need root access. Can someone confirm that if I root the phone that it won't affect the 3G data/voice capabilities?
ROOTING only gives you su (superuser admin) rights to your phone. It doesnt affect your phone or device functions (unless you mess around somewhere). Rooting gives you ability to access files or functions that vendor has it locked out from you. Sort of like jailbreaking the iphone.
Flashing roms is another thing. Some roms have no support to some functions But since you already own an unbranded non carrier GSM and Not CDMA tab. You shouldnt really worry.
all samsung tabs are different...so in lots oof countries they made some differnces in possibilties.
Try out by going to my weblog and after registering to download thje apks you find in the download section.
Best is to download this on another laptop..and copy the apk to the micro sd card in a folder with your name
then withe a file manager clck on the apk to see if they install
not working.....then you need to root your samsung to make it work
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weblog rcs on samson-dimov in nl
Read this : http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...top-5-benefits-of-rooting-your-android-phone/
thanks for the info. I didn't think rooting would break anything but my paranoia got the best of me.
I rooted my phone yesterday and was able to install and run apps that need SU rights. I'm still havin trouble removing the apps that came with the Tab. Thoughts anyone?
FYI, I can uninstall apps that I've downloaded from the market.
PepsiBlue said:
I rooted my phone yesterday and was able to install and run apps that need SU rights. I'm still havin trouble removing the apps that came with the Tab. Thoughts anyone?
FYI, I can uninstall apps that I've downloaded from the market.
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Oho. stock apps cannot be uninstalled. Simplest way to uninstall stock apps is to use Titanium Backup Pro. Before you do that, be sure you backup the app in case you need it again later.

[Q] Titanum + bricking

Since I read in some threads, that Titanum has a high bricking-risk after upgrading form GB to ICS (resp. CM9) I am curious about more details. For system-apps I understand it to some extend that an GB-version might get in conflict with the ICS-version and then stops. Resp. Titanum overwrites the ICS-system app and therefore ... With regular apps I do not really understand, cause for e.g. games they shouldn't influence the system. And last but not least, Samsung provides as well a migration path, from which I guess that the apps are kept.
But with all of this, I still do not understand, why a reboot into CWM is impossible resp. a restore not. How could Titanum influence that part of the system? Or are there some specific apps which shouldn't be restored? (My restore of Swype in CM9-nightly went well and was reusable - resp. didn't see much effects.) Are there more details about the risks? I curios, cause the generic attention-warnings are little bit toooo generic....
Roland_SGN said:
Since I read in some threads, that Titanum has a high bricking-risk after upgrading form GB to ICS (resp. CM9) I am curious about more details. For system-apps I understand it to some extend that an GB-version might get in conflict with the ICS-version and then stops. Resp. Titanum overwrites the ICS-system app and therefore ... With regular apps I do not really understand, cause for e.g. games they shouldn't influence the system. And last but not least, Samsung provides as well a migration path, from which I guess that the apps are kept.
But with all of this, I still do not understand, why a reboot into CWM is impossible resp. a restore not. How could Titanum influence that part of the system? Or are there some specific apps which shouldn't be restored? (My restore of Swype in CM9-nightly went well and was reusable - resp. didn't see much effects.) Are there more details about the risks? I curios, cause the generic attention-warnings are little bit toooo generic....
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I've been wondering the same thing.. What I did was deleting all backups after flashin cm9(paranoidandroid) then I backed up again only the apps that I manually installed on my new rom so that stock apps for example wouldn't be restored. Now I've restored these apps two times without any problems.
Might be lucky but please if someone here knows if my method is safe please reply!
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I restored my apps with data using titanium, no problems. Just do not restore system apps.
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5+ rom for G800F that doesn't have apps installed in separate folders

Hello,
I came to the point 4.4 needs to be upgraded.
Is there any 5+ rom for G800F that doesn't have apps installed in separate folders?
Regards,
Alen
nobody?
background - why do i need it... titaniumbackup nandroid functionality does not work, preventing play store and play services update is impossible
OK... from lack of replies I suppose there isn't any rom with such properties newer than KK.
So, I would like to ask you how do you deal with selective restores from nandroid backup?
Also, how do you prevent Google Play and Google Play Services being updated automatically?
What's the problem with separated folders for apps, may I ask? It's how it works from Android 5.0 and above, all ROMs...
If you sign the app with test-key it won't update, but I've never used it with a Google app to see it there are side effects... There is a free app that can do it (replace the original key to a test one).
the main problem is, as i already mentioned, titanium backup, that detects only data in twrp nandroid backup. also, inability to prevent automatic updates by creating "fake" folders.
what do you have in mind for resigning? zipsigner? never thought of that, but might be a dirty workaround. probably the attempt to update will still happen and fail. also, when decided to update the procedure will be more complicated. hoping there are no side effect. will try and report.
Yes, the app I mentioned is ZipSigner, I've used it with ES File Explorer for keeping and old adware free version...
As for TiB, it's weird... Probably they need to update the app, since Android 5.0 that apss are stored in folders... Or you can use another backup utility, ES File Explorer for instance can save apps and their data (needs root of course).
resigning does not work... play store stops working by saying "authentication required. you need to sign into your google account."
you got me wrong about titanium backup. it otherwise works, it just does not detect apps in nandroid backups - it shows only data. important here is nandroid backup. i'm quite surprised they forgot about this aspect since 5 already.
and btw... deducing from the thread about preventing update with "fake" folder... it seems some stock 5+ roms still install apps in an old way - it depends on package installer.

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