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[Q] Installing TWRP will stop me from getting OTA updates?

Hello
I bought the Note 4 from T-mobile and i'm running stock rom.
I just root the device with chainfire tool and I'm thinking to change the recovery from stock to TWRP.
I'm wondering if by doing that i will lose the ability to get OTA updates from Samsung / T-mobile.
I did a search on the forum for this question, most of the threads are a year old so i just want to make sure that the answer is the same for our new device.
Please answer just if you know for sure, Thanks

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NirAndroid said:
Hello
I bought the Note 4 from T-mobile and i'm running stock rom.
I just root the device with chainfire tool and I'm thinking to change the recovery from stock to TWRP.
I'm wondering if by doing that i will lose the ability to get OTA updates from Samsung / T-mobile.
I did a search on the forum for this question, most of the threads are a year old so i just want to make sure that the answer is the same for our new device.
Please answer just if you know for sure, Thanks
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You already lost the ability to receive OTA updates by rooting
the phone. If you want to get OTA updates the phone cannot be
rooted or have custom recovery like twrp.
The whole and main idea behind having twrp custom recovery
is to be able to flash custom zip file roms and mods.
With stock rooted firmware you will not be able to successfully
flash any custom roms or mods.
If you do flash any custom zip file roms using twrp
you will also loose the ability to have OTA updates.
Good luck!

First, thank you for the quick reply,
Second, are you sure about it? every place I looked people saying that root doesn't have anything to do with OTA updates.
It also say that I can put TWRP or CWM and still getting the OTA updates, all I have to do for this to happen is to be with stock rom (which is what i'm currently using)
Misterjunky said:
You already lost the ability to receive OTA updates by rooting
the phone. If you want to get OTA updates the phone cannot be
rooted or have custom recovery like twrp.
The whole and main idea behind having twrp custom recovery
is to be able to flash custom zip file roms and mods.
With stock rooted firmware you will not be able to successfully
flash any custom roms or mods.
If you do flash any custom zip file roms using twrp
you will also loose the ability to have OTA updates too.
Good luck!
Good luck!
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NirAndroid said:
First, thank you for the quick reply,
Second, are you sure about it? every place I looked people saying that root doesn't have anything to do with OTA updates.
It also say that I can put TWRP or CWM and still getting the OTA updates, all I have to do for this to happen is to be with stock rom (which is what i'm currently using)
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If you check the OTA option and find an update, the updater
will tell you that it cannot install the update due to an unofficial
operating system or something to that effect, I forgot the exact
wording of the message. (if you're rooted)
There is a way to unroot the phone but in my opinion it's just not worth the
hassle to re-root it because as I said being rooted and having twrp recovery
will not help you much at all since you will not be able to flash any custom
roms or mods with out loosing your official stock status which needs to
remain intact in order to be able to get future ota updates.
Good luck!

NirAndroid said:
First, thank you for the quick reply,
Second, are you sure about it? every place I looked people saying that root doesn't have anything to do with OTA updates.
It also say that I can put TWRP or CWM and still getting the OTA updates, all I have to do for this to happen is to be with stock rom (which is what i'm currently using)
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Mr. Junky is correct. But why would you even want an OTA update? Even if you could it would unroot your device. If there is/was a software update it will be on here or SamMobile about the same time & you can install it manually.

NirAndroid said:
First, thank you for the quick reply,
Second, are you sure about it? every place I looked people saying that root doesn't have anything to do with OTA updates.
It also say that I can put TWRP or CWM and still getting the OTA updates, all I have to do for this to happen is to be with stock rom (which is what i'm currently using)
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You have only 2 posts on XDA and you are second guessing our replies on your question? Either believe what we answer or stick to google and don't waste our time.

NirAndroid said:
Hello
I bought the Note 4 from T-mobile and i'm running stock rom.
I just root the device with chainfire tool and I'm thinking to change the recovery from stock to TWRP.
I'm wondering if by doing that i will lose the ability to get OTA updates from Samsung / T-mobile.
I did a search on the forum for this question, most of the threads are a year old so i just want to make sure that the answer is the same for our new device.
Please answer just if you know for sure, Thanks
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Well OTA is out of the question. But I was successful with the last update by using Kies 3.
I just had to root again afterwards using the same method.

Brava27 said:
You have only 2 posts on XDA and you are second guessing our replies on your question? Either believe what we answer or stick to google and don't waste our time.
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No body asked you to spend your time in my thread, you are more then welcome to move a long because its clearly that you have nothing smart to say beside rasing your post counter.
For all the others, thank you for your help.
The reason that i would like to keep the OTA updates is because i love the stock rom and i dont want to check every timr on the internet if a new build has came out.
its much more easier with OTA too keep being update. But i guess my needs to be root are biger and i will need to flash the updates manually.
Once again, thank you.

I get Ota updates on mine rooted.Only thing u can't install if u have twrp will put u in a boot loop it needs the stock android recovery.You have to wait for a rom with the update

...........As long as I can remember, you root a device you lose carrier OTA updates. ..why is this so difficult for people to comprehend o_0 every new device every year it's the same questions. .......you have the capacity to root......yet you question if you'll lose OTA -_-, & most root methods have disclaimers saying you lose this x we are not responsible for brick etc. ........
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[Q] Migration to Android 5.0

Hi,
I have a Motorola Moto G XT1068 - Dualsim, german version. I unlocked the bootloader and installed CWM PhilZ. OTA update does not work so I just skipped it until Android 5.0 is out now.
Questions:
1) I am using Titanium Backup Root for backing up my Apps, SMS, phone lists etc. I did not get any support from them if and how it will work on Android 5.0 due to the rumors that root is harder to enable. Any other update strategies, which programs do you use? ADB?
2) Which Rom (Fullrom?) do i have to flash in order to get Android 5.0 via OTA?
Thx for your answers

AFAIK no flashing of ROM is necessary as long as you're on stock. What you need is a stock recovery. I reckon you flash that ASAP.
Also, you might need to look into your system apps and make sure that you haven't deleted/disabled or converted to user apps.
Besides these steps, you'll be fine and will be able to update.

Androphilius said:
Hi,
I have a Motorola Moto G XT1068 - Dualsim, german version. I unlocked the bootloader and installed CWM PhilZ. OTA update does not work so I just skipped it until Android 5.0 is out now.
Questions:
1) I am using Titanium Backup Root for backing up my Apps, SMS, phone lists etc. I did not get any support from them if and how it will work on Android 5.0 due to the rumors that root is harder to enable. Any other update strategies, which programs do you use? ADB?
2) Which Rom (Fullrom?) do i have to flash in order to get Android 5.0 via OTA?
Thx for your answers
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You have to install stock firmware and re-lock your bootloader. The guide to install stock firmware is on the general sub-forum and should be here.
I suggest using SMS Backup & Restore to backup your SMS. However, I recommend waiting until root is out to flash Android L. Then you can use Titanium Backup to restore your user apps & data.
I'm running L myself so I have to patiently wait for root. Good news though! The Moto X got a root solution by chainfire for Android L already. This means we could get root soon for Moto G.

Thank you for your answers so far.
I downloaded stock rom yesterday and planning to migrate today, due to the fact that a solution for rooting XT1068 comes near.
I just hope i got the right Stock Rom Version for german version and - always a bit worried that someone has put malware in the roms posted on fileshares.
Now I have to find out the right steps with ADB.
Full wipe, wipe cache, wipe dalvik and restore partition required as I am used to do with Samsung crap due to other mounting of sd card? Always did it with CWM the times before and never had to relock bootloader. But I have also read that locking is not required for flashing 5.0.
Okay, lazy saturday, I am going to find it out myself

Androphilius said:
Thank you for your answers so far.
I downloaded stock rom yesterday and planning to migrate today, due to the fact that a solution for rooting XT1068 comes near.
I just hope i got the right Stock Rom Version for german version and - always a bit worried that someone has put malware in the roms posted on fileshares.
Now I have to find out the right steps with ADB.
Full wipe, wipe cache, wipe dalvik and restore partition required as I am used to do with Samsung crap due to other mounting of sd card? Always did it with CWM the times before and never had to relock bootloader. But I have also read that locking is not required for flashing 5.0.
Okay, lazy saturday, I am going to find it out myself
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Nope, no re locking required. Just do the samsung needful. I had one of its ****ty mobile too. So hi5 there.
Anyways, I don't understand why are doing this stuff. Most probably a flashable zip would be uploaded on XDA the same day or max the next day. Just chillax and wait for the good news to arrive, which I hope is any day now
P.S Oh and also make sure that you don't lock your bootloader at all. Because then you wouldn't be able to unlock it, at least not right now, hence you wouldn't be able to root.

Is it safe to do a system update

I have a Droid Turbo that is currently on version 5.1 (23.21.44) and I just recently unfroze the system update notifications for my phone because of the news of MM. I am currently rooted and have an unlocked bootloader but I don't have TWRP installed and would rather not install it for now if I don't have to.
The system update that it is trying to push to my phone isn't MM, instead it is version 23.21.49.en.US. Is it safe to just take this update while being rooted and with an unlocked bootloader? I'm also not sure how many updates I'll have to make my way through before reaching the MM update, but if there are other updates, should it also be safe to go ahead with those as well? I know I could install TWRP and flash the MM ROM that way but I would prefer to do the updates officially if it is not risking a bricked phone.
Thanks for any advice.
EDIT: I forgot to finish the title of the thread...

AirJordanTS said:
I have a Droid Turbo that is currently on version 5.1 (23.21.44) and I just recently unfroze the system update notifications for my phone because of the news of MM. I am currently rooted and have an unlocked bootloader but I don't have TWRP installed and would rather not install it for now if I don't have to.
The system update that it is trying to push to my phone isn't MM, instead it is version 23.21.49.en.US. Is it safe to just take this update while being rooted and with an unlocked bootloader? I'm also not sure how many updates I'll have to make my way through before reaching the MM update, but if there are other updates, should it also be safe to go ahead with those as well? I know I could install TWRP and flash the MM ROM that way but I would prefer to do the updates officially if it is not risking a bricked phone.
Thanks for any advice.
EDIT: I forgot to finish the title of the thread...
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It's safe, but it will be unsuccessful until you unroot your phone and undo any other system modifications that you've done (xposed, for example). There's a huge part of the update script that checks every single file in your system partition to make sure nothing has been modified.

Ok great, thanks.
The only other modification I can think that I've made is enabling mobile Hotspot through editing a setting somewhere. Do you know if that would be affected or would need changed back?

AirJordanTS said:
Ok great, thanks.
The only other modification I can think that I've made is enabling mobile Hotspot through editing a setting somewhere. Do you know if that would be affected or would need changed back?
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You did that by modifying /system/build.prop. That change might be okay, but I would change it back if I were you just to be safe. The change is going to be overwritten anyway once the OTA is done.

AirJordanTS said:
Ok great, thanks.
The only other modification I can think that I've made is enabling mobile Hotspot through editing a setting somewhere. Do you know if that would be affected or would need changed back?
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It's possible it may miss overlooking that. The worst that could happen was the update just doesn't take. It fails and nothing is changed. There is a pure MM official version that you can Flash in TWRP. It will update everything, radios and all, but will not relock the bootloader. I recommend you download Titanium Backup and backup all of your apps and their data to be restored after the update. A factory reset is recommended after the update. Also, don't forget to back up all of your photos, documents, music, etc. 24.81.5 is MM. Your update was a prep for MM.

Thanks for the advice guys.
I didn't realize it but I had TWRP installed so I decided to flash a stock ROM and proceed with the OTA updates from there. The problem currently is that I'm being locked out of my phone because of the Google "verify your account" page. I reset my account password on that page and now I'm not able to log in.

question about maintaining root

So far I've been running my OP3T with stock rom with TWRP recovery and SuperSU to have root. This was mostly because I wanted the Adaway and titanium backup to work. I undid everything so I could update to the latest OxygenOS version, and now I'm on the stock recovery too, but with bootloader still unlocked I believe. I no longer have root after doing the upgrade as far as I can tell, still a bit new to all this flashing, haha. The last time I did this was when the nexus 4 came out
What is the best option for maintaining root while still being able to upgrade smoothly? I'm not against using one of the custom ROMs if that will help, but I do kinda like the stock rom so far!
thanks!

bluesrph said:
So far I've been running my OP3T with stock rom with TWRP recovery and SuperSU to have root. This was mostly because I wanted the Adaway and titanium backup to work. I undid everything so I could update to the latest OxygenOS version, and now I'm on the stock recovery too, but with bootloader still unlocked I believe. I no longer have root after doing the upgrade as far as I can tell, still a bit new to all this flashing, haha. The last time I did this was when the nexus 4 came out
What is the best option for maintaining root while still being able to upgrade smoothly? I'm not against using one of the custom ROMs if that will help, but I do kinda like the stock rom so far!
thanks!
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This thread should answer all your questions and doubts
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...-or-custom-recovery-without-data-loss.479265/

saurabh40629 said:
This thread should answer all your questions and doubts
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/...-or-custom-recovery-without-data-loss.479265/
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Thank you, I have seen that post. I'm guessing any route I go I'll have to flash updates then? I was hoping to find a way to be able to use OTA updates.
I've also never been able to get rid of the dm-verity error, even after going back to stock and locking the bootloader. Is there anything I need to worry about with that or is it just an annoyance?
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bluesrph said:
Thank you, I have seen that post. I'm guessing any route I go I'll have to flash updates then? I was hoping to find a way to be able to use OTA updates.
I've also never been able to get rid of the dm-verity error, even after going back to stock and locking the bootloader. Is there anything I need to worry about with that or is it just an annoyance?
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Dm-verity u can bypass but bootloader one, you can not. Look at the apps, mods section.

bluesrph said:
Thank you, I have seen that post. I'm guessing any route I go I'll have to flash updates then? I was hoping to find a way to be able to use OTA updates.
I've also never been able to get rid of the dm-verity error, even after going back to stock and locking the bootloader. Is there anything I need to worry about with that or is it just an annoyance?
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You shouldn't try to flash the partial OTAs while you are rooted and have a custom recovery installed. The partial zip will try to make specific changes in the restricted partitions (/system, /boot, /recovery, etc.) related to the update and prior modifications to these files may cause the update to fail and the phone to brick. You can still use the "Update" tab in the Settings menu to download the update though as OOS will detect root and download the full zip of the update for you. Simply flash the full zip in TWRP, wipe cache/dalvik, then flash SuperSU and you're good to go the next time an update rolls out. Updating by this method (rooting immedately after flashing update) will also prevent OOS from replacing TWRP with the stock recovery again. When you download the update, you'll know if it's the full zip if the file is >1 GB (they're usually ~1.4 GB,, whereas the partial zips are a few hundred MB).
Unlocked bootloader warning screen is cannot be removed without relocked and fully resetting (wiping) the phone. DM-verity warning screen can be removed by following this guide. Make sure that you are flashing the correct firmware for you current version of OOS though, flashing the wrong version can brick you phone.

Unroot/Relock/revert to stock

Hey everyone,
I'm over rooting. Had an issue today where a backup refused to restore and in trying to fix it, I've deleted my OS. Yes, I'm bad at this. No big deal, I have backups of all my photos and other important stuff.
I don't really want to do the rooting/flashing thing anymore and just want to get my phone back to normal/out of the box as possible so that it will receive regular OTA updates etc. I just want to simplify things.
TWRP is installed. Is it as simple as flashing the latest official update? Or do I need to relock the phone somehow too?
I was going to follow: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/guide-to-revert-oneplus-3t-to-stock-t3676210 but wanted to be sure that it would work even though I don't currently have an OS installed.
Thanks!

Southrncomfortjm said:
I'm over rooting. Had an issue today where a backup refused to restore and in trying to fix it, I've deleted my OS.
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That isn't root. That is your lack of knowledge of the functions of custom recovery, and what the results will be. Better learning and knowledge, and a little more care could have easily prevented it from happening. You wiped the selections in the "Advanced" wipe section of TWRP. And the fact it's called "Advanced" should have been a good clue to not mess with it, unless you know exactly what you are doing.
It's also an easy condition to recover from.
Southrncomfortjm said:
I don't really want to do the rooting/flashing thing anymore and just want to get my phone back to normal/out of the box as possible so that it will receive regular OTA updates etc. I just want to simplify things.
TWRP is installed. Is it as simple as flashing the latest official update? Or do I need to relock the phone somehow too?
I was going to follow: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/guide-to-revert-oneplus-3t-to-stock-t3676210 but wanted to be sure that it would work even though I don't currently have an OS installed.
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That guide is needlessly complicated. Just download the flash the "full" update zip using TWRP, from here: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3t/how-to/official-oxygenos-5-0-1-android-8-0-t3728119
Make sure you are using a version of TWRP which supports Oreo (if you were on Oreo when you wiped OS, it should be okay). And that is all there is to it. You will be fully restored to stock, and after rebooting, stock recovery will replace TWRP.
You don't need to lock the bootloader to do this, and you don't need it for future OTAs. But a locked bootloader is arguably more secure, if you really don't need custom recovery or root.
On the other hand, if you still want to give root/phone mods a shot; the way to restore, and still have root is the same (flash full update zip). But just flash Magisk or SuperSU before rebooting, and you will be rooted, and still have TWRP.