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[Q] Sould I return my RAZR i?

Hey guys, in desperate need of some advice.
Just to give you a little back story, I've been using a Nexus 4, rooted with Cyanogenmod CFW on it, and loved it. However I recently decided to sell it as it is just too big to be used comfortably in one hand (with the bumper case on).
Yesterday I went into a 3 store and signed up for their £15/month One Plan. I also picked up a Motorola RAZR i XT890 as it was the smallest, decent-looking handset I could find in any of the 5 phone shops I searched.
I got home, un-boxed the phone and connected it up to my pc, getting ready to root it and put on CFW. However, after some research I seem to be at the conclusion that, because of the Intel processor that the RAZR utilizes, there is little to no CFW available for it, least of all Cyanogenmod.
Is my thinking correct? Because if it is, I may have to return the phone, as much as I love it's size and looks.
Any help greatly appreciated!

jjl5590 said:
...there is little to no CFW available for it, least of all Cyanogenmod.
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Yep you are right. At the moment there are available just 3 custom roms based on 4.1.2 - pi-lama, infinity and omar's rom. I used to be CM user as well but it all depends on you preferences if you gonna miss some features or not. Personaly I love the look of the i (size of display contra physical size most) and excelent battery life which is more important for me then ability to flash CM. I'm on Omar's M7 and have to say it satisfies me.

dara85 said:
Yep you are right. At the moment there are available just 3 custom roms based on 4.1.2 - pi-lama, infinity and omar's rom. I used to be CM user as well but it all depends on you preferences if you gonna miss some features or not. Personaly I love the look of the i (size of display contra physical size most) and excelent battery life which is more important for me then ability to flash CM. I'm on Omar's M7 and have to say it satisfies me.
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Thanks for the reply. I love the phone, it's just the customizability on it is next to non-existant, which is the point of android

jjl5590 said:
Thanks for the reply. I love the phone, it's just the customizability on it is next to non-existant, which is the point of android
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There ist a 4th rom (JellyAOSP) and since a few days xposed available. So enough to do with customising
Also there are many mods so you can have some CM-feeling like SMS with CM-emoticons

jjl5590 said:
Thanks for the reply. I love the phone, it's just the customizability on it is next to non-existant, which is the point of android
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Not really. Customizability is still there, just up to you yo learn it and improve it, the only thing that's not there is people doing it for you. Plus xposed came out a few days ago, and cm and other roms will eventually be ported...

anerik said:
Not really. Customizability is still there, just up to you yo learn it and improve it, the only thing that's not there is people doing it for you. Plus xposed came out a few days ago, and cm and other roms will eventually be ported...
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But I won't be able to get Cyanogenmod. I am no developer

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But I won't be able to get Cyanogenmod. I am no developer
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Well he didnt say you must port cyano, he say that the personalization and customization of the phone its with another tecnics, like xposed, cidya, power toggles, its everything like cm
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jjl5590 said:
But I won't be able to get Cyanogenmod. I am no developer
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You could learn. Everybody's gotta start at some point. That's what i'm saying, it's not like it cant be customized. And it shouldn't be returned for that reason

ICuaI said:
There ist a 4th rom (JellyAOSP) and since a few days xposed available. So enough to do with customising
Also there are many mods so you can have some CM-feeling like SMS with CM-emoticons
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Do you have a link to the xposed for x86? its main thread states its only for arm processors.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46002463
In post 4050 is the beta attached
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appoluth have
Well I took the phone back for a refund today, I am now looking at the RAZR m, it looks like the same phone except no intel processor and 4G capability. Would I be able to put CM on there? Some say it is not possible to unlock the bootloader?

Now you are in the wrong section
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jjl5590 said:
Well I took the phone back for a refund today, I am now looking at the RAZR m, it looks like the same phone except no intel processor and 4G capability. Would I be able to put CM on there? Some say it is not possible to unlock the bootloader?
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Razr M is designed for US market only so you would have to import it as there is no official distributor for EU markets.
I am not sure how it works with M in terms of bootloader being unlockable but there is special developer edition which is unlockable for sure.

[Q] Any interest in slightly modified stock roms for SafeStrap?

Just like the topic says, thinking of doing something like this if there is any interest. I own a xt1060 (Verizon non-dev edition) so that would be the base.
Discuss?
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I think that would be great. What modifications do you plan to make?

Absolutely. Though would it work on the AT&T XT1058?
Since kernels cannot be flashed, I believe optimizations arent possible? Just visual changes?

I would like to see a debloated blur ROM with more toggle options in the notification pulldown and status bar tweaks.
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stanislavshulgin said:
I think that would be great. What modifications do you plan to make?
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De-bloat, replace some of the apps with more "functional" source built counterparts if/when they are available (MMS/Dialer/etc.), possibly some slight modifications to the framework images to make it look a bit more unified across all X variants.
anirudh412 said:
Absolutely. Though would it work on the AT&T XT1058?
Since kernels cannot be flashed, I believe optimizations arent possible? Just visual changes?
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As per AT&T, that would be dependent on having testers readily available who aren't afraid of taking a trip to RSDville should something go sideways.
Optimizations are always possible, however slight they may be
tango41 said:
I would like to see a debloated blur ROM with more toggle options in the notification pulldown and status bar tweaks.
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Pretty sure we would have to build from source to completely modify those areas, in the meantime I would just stick with GravityBox to take care of those options.
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Liking the discussion so far, please continue

remicks said:
As per AT&T, that would be dependent on having testers readily available who aren't afraid of taking a trip to RSDville should something go sideways.
Optimizations are always possible, however slight they may be
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Optimizations are always welcome, however slight they may be :cyclops:
This is the my first motorola phone, and certainly the first with a locked bootloader. I am not well versed with RSD, but am gonna read up. You got one tester here :good:

anirudh412 said:
Optimizations are always welcome, however slight they may be :cyclops:
This is the my first motorola phone, and certainly the first with a locked bootloader. I am not well versed with RSD, but am gonna read up. You got one tester here :good:
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Sweet, I always appreciate any help I can get!
Keep in mind also guys that this will be done in my spare time (which I don't have a large amount of) and no ETAs will be given on anything. This is gonna require quite a bit of research and testing on my own device before I even start grabbing testers for it, I personally do NOT want to be responsible for bricking someone elses X... that would be a tragedy of epic proportions.

remicks said:
Sweet, I always appreciate any help I can get!
Keep in mind also guys that this will be done in my spare time (which I don't have a large amount of) and no ETAs will be given on anything. This is gonna require quite a bit of research and testing on my own device before I even start grabbing testers for it, I personally do NOT want to be responsible for bricking someone elses X... that would be a tragedy of epic proportions.
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ETAs if asked, will be done nicely
I kid, i kid. Take your time. Its better to have a late released good ROM that a quick release buggy one
And BTW, whats the ETA for the first release? :angel:

Will your work be for 4.4?
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tango41 said:
Will your work be for 4.4?
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Yes, and possibly 4.2 as well for those who prefer jb.
Sent from a White Moto Xposed

Definitely interested in testing this. Freezing bloat on my Dev Ed really boosts the battery life into well over the 2 day range. Thanks OP

Yeah, I'll act as a tester with great pleasure. I've got some experience in modding and don't get scared of anything

Awesome, looks like there's a decent amount of interest in this. OK then, research commencing now.
Time to call the other boys into action as well I suppose
Sent from a White Moto Xposed

Remicks,
A) Yes I am interested!
B) Would you be willing to throw a little education our way? How does one make a Rom safestrap compatible? I am currently using a rooted 4.4 safestrap Rom, with OTA bootloader / safetrap installed. Here is the link http://rootzwiki.com/topic/108826-romsafestrapxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-140455-kitkat/
I was under the impression that using safestrap one could not flash new Kernel, though it seems that is one of the steps for the above link? Is it because it is a digitally signed kernel? Any information would be awesome about how to do this, perhaps I could even help!

Poll: Is it worth going to Lollipop knowing that xposed and gravitybox don't work?

Also what are your thoughts on this?
MJ-12

Will wait and see what happens to xposed. My favorite rom (omni) isn't ready, so no problem for me. Time will show. Happy with 4.4.4.

Completely up to you, no one can decide your specific use case for you.

Rusty! said:
Completely up to you, no one can decide your specific use case for you.
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Thanks for your reply, but it is not about me.
This is more to see how the lack of xposed is affecting peoples choice as to whether it is worth it or not to upgrade.
MJ-12

I only need xposed for one module now. still keeps me dual booting kitkat & lollipop. Great way to keep xposed alive.

MJ-12 said:
Thanks for your reply, but it is not about me.
This is more to see how the lack of xposed is affecting peoples choice as to whether it is worth it or not to upgrade.
MJ-12
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Not losing any sleep over the death of xposed on art.

I went forward no looking back I like having the features exposed brings but not willing to wait on them to get up to date been running 5.0 since release very pleased

Depends if you can stay without your modules.
I upgraded and do not regret it.

MJ-12 said:
Thanks for your reply, but it is not about me.
This is more to see how the lack of xposed is affecting peoples choice as to whether it is worth it or not to upgrade.
MJ-12
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It only affects you if you rely on xposed.

I will stick to 4.4.4 simply because of my favorite module "amplify" saves so many resources from google. I've used aosp 5.0 and it uses so much more resources. Even with mini or micro gapps.

fire6water said:
I will stick to 4.4.4 simply because of my favorite module "amplify" saves so many resources from google. I've used aosp 5.0 and it uses so much more resources. Even with mini or micro gapps.
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can you explain this more? I enabled amplify once and had nothing but problems.
I use MightyText, which keeps data active and wakes the phone regularly to upload/download/send new messages. I figure Amplify would interfere with MightyText

The developer has not mentioned a port to ART / Lollipop. So for those running Kitkat, may want to consider moving forward.

You can try an custom ROM, that have some of xposed features. I'm using simpleAOPSP and in linking. But the wifi bug remains and its really boring.

feered said:
The developer has not mentioned a port to ART / Lollipop. So for those running Kitkat, may want to consider moving forward.
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He sure has, as a matter of fact. I believe there's even mention of it in the Xposed framework thread OP. Do some searching. You will find what the dev has said about Xposed & Lollipop.

I've enjoyed the migration to lollipop. I do greatly miss slimkats features (always used slim instead of xposed), but that Dev team is full of wizards who will get SlimLP stable soon enough. I don't mind stock LP though either. I don't suffer from the memory leak that many others seem to have.

I moved forward to lollipop and I like it and am not going to move backwards. However, if I had to do it over again knowing the bugs I have now with lollipop I would have stayed with 4.4 for a bit longer. There are a tone of modules I'm missing, but like I said not going backwards now. I actually really like the way the new app switcher works even thorough a lot of people complain about it, except it still lags once in a while when I click on it. I wish i could dedicate resources to a couple things on m phone to keep them always super snappy. The home screen, app switcher, and hangouts would be great. I used to be able to do this with a module.

Nope, Lollipop is NOT worth losing Xposed at all. Both my Moto X and N5 are sticking to KitKat and Xposed. I have a Lollipop ROM on my N5 and I really don't see what all the fuss is about. KitKat is much better.

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Nope, Lollipop is NOT worth losing Xposed at all. Both my Moto X and N5 are sticking to KitKat and Xposed. I have a Lollipop ROM on my N5 and I really don't see what all the fuss is about. KitKat is much better.
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KK is better as far as functionality goes... Especially with something like slimkat to completely customize it, but lollipop is sexier imo

Ahimsa310 said:
KK is better as far as functionality goes... Especially with something like slimkat to completely customize it, but lollipop is sexier imo
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Lollipop feels like an OEM skin to me, like TouchWiz. Google seems like they are going for more mainstream appeal with Lollipop, and the road they are taking with it just isn't my cup of tea. I almost vomited when I saw all the pink in the Messenger app. I prefer the more subdued look that KitKat has. In fact, I prefer everything about KitKat.

_MetalHead_ said:
Lollipop feels like an OEM skin to me, like TouchWiz. Google seems like they are going for more mainstream appeal with Lollipop, and the road they are taking with it just isn't my cup of tea. I almost vomited when I saw all the pink in the Messenger app. I prefer the more subdued look that KitKat has. In fact, I prefer everything about KitKat.
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I can understand it's like an OEM... But NOT touchwiz... There is absolutely no lag, the settings menu (granted it's ugly white) is organized nicely like aosp, no OEM bloat, etc. I do like the look of 4.4 better though. 5.0 does have it's perks as well. I like the status bar, but wish you could customize the quick settings arrangement (KK couldn't either without a custom ROM or xposed), I like the messenger, especially after the update, I love the material design of the apps, flappy droid obviously is a win, etc... I just hope an update drops to somewhat fix the battery a little bit. I miss my 4h SOT and u like others suggest, I'm not going to disable everything that makes my device a smartphone lol

[Q] Not liking lollipop?

Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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maritimesbob said:
Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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I too am enjoying the material design 'overhaul' and to be honest have been spending so long with 'feature rich' ROMs it's nice to go back to the basics. I'm missing some of my favourite staples like the traffic monitor and lock screen targets but overall I'm really enjoying Lolipop.
Features I'm loving:
- Location based security
- Built in 'quiet hours'
- Built in battery analysis
- Recent apps overhaul (just now getting used to not closing all open apps)

maritimesbob said:
Anyone not liking Lollipop or not impressed with the first releases of L for our M7 devices? I see plenty who are praising the product. I myself really like the sleak Material design, but it might be my imagination but L doesn't seem quite as smooth as 4.4.2 and a few apps hang up here and there, the capacitive key light is a problem (as we all know).
Just wondered if anyone else has gone back to KitkKat, whether that be aosp, gpe or Sense and for what reason?
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I have long ago gone back to 4.4.4. Not only am I not a fan of the new temp Material remake but the issues with over all volume decrease and other issues are not worth it. Not to mention the really stupid in call screen. Not sure what they were thinking there.

Did you go back to stock GPE Zelendel?
Glad to hear there are a few not happy with L.

maritimesbob said:
Did you go back to stock GPE Zelendel?
Glad to hear there are a few not happy with L.
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No I went back to DU as it was my daily driver. Gpe is to bland for me with not enough options.

Also went back from lollipop to Sense 4.4.3
I prefer Sense UI and I'm not a huge fan of the new lollipop design. Some changes are great and some others I don't like at all.
Xposed framework incompatibility with ART is probably the main reason why I reverted back to Kitkat.

alray said:
Also went back from lollipop to Sense 4.4.3
I prefer Sense UI and I'm not a huge fan of the new lollipop design. Some changes are great and some others I don't like at all.
Xposed framework incompatibility with ART is probably the main reason why I reverted back to Kitkat.
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That may be a lasting issue. From some to not I have heard he is hardly working on it and is not really motivated to finish it as the direction Google is going is locking the system down for things like xposed.

I used Lollipop for few days because I had that mute call bug and only thing I liked is recent apps. Everything else is just not to my liking. I was so happy when I found out about mute call fix zip ?

I wonder if Lollipop roms will be less customisable than previous google releases?
Yeah I can see me switching back to KK at some point. We can always have the Material look with a theme engine. I miss the customisation that comes with KK and even Jellybean roms.
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zelendel said:
No I went back to DU as it was my daily driver. Gpe is to bland for me with not enough options.
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What is the DU rom you mentioned? Thanks.
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maritimesbob said:
I wonder if Lollipop roms will be less customisable than previous google releases?
Yeah I can see me switching back to KK at some point. We can always have the Material look with a theme engine. I miss the customisation that comes with KK and even Jellybean roms.
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Many are working on bringing the features to 5.0. Some are doing it wrong and just trying to port them over instead of redoing them to work properly but the features are coming. I wouldnt want to rush it mainly with google pushing so many updates on a daily basis. I mean we are already up to what 5.0.2r7 with 5.1 rumored to be out next month. The material design is just like the whole Holo deal. IT will pass. Google is even changing the color pallet after many complaints. So That is not a big deal really. Well unless your an app developer that made your app in the material design then come 6.0 or 7 they will have to redo it again to match what ever google decides to do then.

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What is the DU rom you mentioned? Thanks.
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It is Dirty unicorns, I also use Slim. I did use AICP for a while but have moved away from roms that use CM as a base.

Thanks for the info, I better be careful this doesn't turn into a roms comparison thread!
I am sure Lollipop roms will get better and better once devs get their heads around the software, start adding features. I am sure it's a very small percentage of phone users who even have 5.0 on their phones, a good portion are probably still Jellybean.
Myself, going back to a KK rom for now until the L roms mature a little more.

Anyone finding the aosp (inc cm) Lollipop roms better than GPE for stability, battery longevity etc?

I myself am liking the taste of the lollipop myself, tastes like strawberries runs much smoother than KK, battery life is great, all my apps are working, no faults with it what so ever.
The few issues I think many people are having with it and a lot seem to be complaining about, is HTC themselves haven't listened to anyone, the issues are with sense that HTC bang on top of Google's Android, the widgets are still to small and don't come right down, however there is a mod to fix this, cant stand the ugly white and black background on the clock and weather widget, im using Chronus for my clock and weather at the moment, I do miss xposed but not enough to revert back, there are for now alternatives for what I used xposed for, they just take a bit of hunting down.
The sense version of Lollipop is still a baby at the moment and Dev's are working on their apps already for Lollipop including xposed, it will come.
You have to remember that the ROM which LabFooter posted a few days ago is still very much in beta stage. its a leak and still in testing, any issues found can still be fixed yet.

Anyone else tried Lollipop and gone back to Kitkat or even Jellybean, and why? Just trying to keep the conversation going on this one as it's early days with Lollipop and all that. Figured there are many who like or dislike the operating system.

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Anyone else tried Lollipop and gone back to Kitkat or even Jellybean, and why? Just trying to keep the conversation going on this one as it's early days with Lollipop and all that. Figured there are many who like or dislike the operating system.
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I did. Lollipop is nice to look at, but IMO it's just that. It's still too buggy for me to use it. Back to good old KK and enjoying every minute

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I did. Lollipop is nice to look at, but IMO it's just that. It's still too buggy for me to use it. Back to good old KK and enjoying every minute
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Took the words right out of my mouth, lollipop looks and feels real nice. But the poor functionality due to all the bugs it's just not usable as an every day Rom :good:

Dont' fix if ain't broken.
Besides not so many new functions I could use in Lolipop.
I prefer trustworthy KK over buggy loli.
Mike

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Dont' fix if ain't broken.
Besides not so many new functions I could use in Lolipop.
I prefer trustworthy KK over buggy loli.
Mike
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Exactly!!! [emoji106]

Rom Development

Hi All!
Just wondering if there is much call for ROM development over here?
I started playing with the latest Urbane build this week & the chances of me doing some work (however limited) is highly likely...

I'd love to see some custom ROMS for GWR!

finalbillybong said:
I'd love to see some custom ROMS for GWR!
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Already got an 80% working urbane port running.. just need to fix audio input and gesture controls.. once done I will post it in the dev section ?

ROM posted...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/g-w...edroid-r-urbane-port-v1-0-0-june-6th-t3128850

What can you really do with wear? It seems to be so locked down. Are you basically going to improve stock as much as you can? Possibly a leedroid wear tweaks app?

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What can you really do with wear? It seems to be so locked down. Are you basically going to improve stock as much as you can? Possibly a leedroid wear tweaks app?
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Undecided at present but already started de-compiling and playing around