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Obsidian beta released

Here it is, but be careful it doesn'tplay nice with Koush's Bootstrap Recovery.
Camera, video and GPS don't work.
Have fun!
Sorry can't make this a hot link:
wiki.ccroms.net/obsidian/releases/2.0.0

Doesn't just not play nice with Bootstrap - Bootstrap can't be used at all! If you want to get into Clockwork you have to do it from the power menu it seems. I'm going to let the rom hackers play with this for a while, see if they can fix the issues before I jump in.
http://wiki.ccroms.net/obsidian/releases/2.0.0

so what's the big deal about this ROM vs other ROMs out there?

davidukfl said:
so what's the big deal about this ROM vs other ROMs out there?
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Word...?
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Where's the dl?
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davidukfl said:
so what's the big deal about this ROM vs other ROMs out there?
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It's 100% AOSP at the system level. No Blur hooks at all. Still a Motorola kernel though, can't much help that.
Link is listed in the first post! Hot link in the second post

How come every other ROM has the GPS, Camera, and Camcorder working while this one has been in development the longest and doesn't have them working?

pCarson92 said:
How come every other ROM has the GPS, Camera, and Camcorder working while this one has been in development the longest and doesn't have them working?
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those three things are the hardest to get working when making aosp and cm work with android. i saw that in the droid and it happened all the time with the eris. Give it about 2 weeks and the gps should be working and shortly after that the camera will work. that is usually the norm.
Has a camera app from the market been tried yet? we use to use cameramajic for the eris. until the camera was fixed.

This rom is completely compiled and built from source . Its all AOSP at the system level, meaning it is not a blur rom with aosp apps and an aosp theme. Its the real deal aside from the stock moto kernel which could be causing some of the issues with gps etc.
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so what practical reasons would there be to switch to this (when fully finished) from my currently installed Apex 1.3.1?

borgey420 said:
This is pretty much a ****in' score. Basically all the ROMs out for the X are trash. Sounds like this is going to pave the way for some good ROMs. Good work guys
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You might consider rewording this post.

I have waited for this for so long; Thank you!!!!!!!!

Anyone running this yet and can compare speed, functionality, etc. compared to other popular roms?
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Granted there haven't been any full 100% aosp builds but I think the "trash"comment is a bit harsh. When in fact team defuse, fab, kejar,drod,ultimatedroid, lexusbrian, birdman and so on have given us some good solid alternatives to the stock blur fiasco. We have an encrypted/ locked boot loader with a proprietary UI woven throughout our device. So I think alot of these devs have done an amaving job working around these massive roadblocks. So be grateful or crack the encrypted boot loader.
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This is pretty much a ****in' score. Basically all the ROMs out for the X are trash. Sounds like this is going to pave the way for some good ROMs. Good work guys
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davidukfl said:
so what practical reasons would there be to switch to this (when fully finished) from my currently installed Apex 1.3.1?
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Apex is still pretty set into Blur. You have to look at Fission, GummyJAR, or other AOSP-like roms to see what you would gain. It's mostly losing the Motorola/Verizon installed junk, freeing up memory and getting a nicer base to install apps on. For example: the Facebook app doesn't let you sync contacts on the stock software on the Droid X/2/2G/Pro because Blur has its own Facebook implementation. AOSP builds let the app do its thing.

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Granted there haven't been any full 100% aosp builds but I think the "trash"comment is a bit harsh. When in fact team defuse, fab, kejar,drod,ultimatedroid, lexusbrian, birdman and so on have given us some good solid alternatives to the stock blur fiasco. We have an encrypted/ locked boot loader with a proprietary UI woven throughout our device. So I think alot of these devs have done an amaving job working around these massive roadblocks. So be grateful or crack the encrypted boot loader.
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+1 agreed. The devs for the X in my opinion should recieve more respect qnd thanks due to obstacles they have to work around! This is awesome, and I'm stoked to see continued development it!
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sunder74 said:
Granted there haven't been any full 100% aosp builds but I think the "trash"comment is a bit harsh. When in fact team defuse, fab, kejar,drod,ultimatedroid, lexusbrian, birdman and so on have given us some good solid alternatives to the stock blur fiasco. We have an encrypted/ locked boot loader with a proprietary UI woven throughout our device. So I think alot of these devs have done an amaving job working around these massive roadblocks. So be grateful or crack the encrypted boot loader.
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+1. "Trash" is really not cool. It's a slap in the face to all the hard work our devs put in.

Was the download pulled? It just says "Coming soon" next to download.

milan616 said:
Apex is still pretty set into Blur. You have to look at Fission, GummyJAR, or other AOSP-like roms to see what you would gain. It's mostly losing the Motorola/Verizon installed junk, freeing up memory and getting a nicer base to install apps on. For example: the Facebook app doesn't let you sync contacts on the stock software on the Droid X/2/2G/Pro because Blur has its own Facebook implementation. AOSP builds let the app do its thing.
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Fission does the facebook sync
Once everything is built so the missing features are working you have basically built up a clean OEM ROM...

borgey420 said:
This is pretty much a ****in' score. Basically all the ROMs out for the X are trash. Sounds like this is going to pave the way for some good ROMs. Good work guys
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And what ROM are you running? I'll bet it's not stock. Putting down all these devs' hard work should be grounds for a permanent ban from xda account of your total lack of appreciation for the countless hours of work put into the GREAT ROMS that have been made with what they have been given to work with.
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Worth posting a no-phone edition of Sense4 port?

Sense4 is released here
my youtube recording of it here

Is this a ROM or just a theme? I mean, is it possible for us without 4X developer edition to get this aswell?

rimatox said:
Is this a ROM or just a theme? I mean, is it possible for us without 4X developer edition to get this aswell?
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did you watch the youtube? does it look like a theme?, all widgets looks accurate?
this is Sense4 for OneX i used. and yes, its possible, OneX and o4x is hardware wise pretty similar on cpu/gfx chipset. rest is different but can be fixed i believe.

Sounds great. Just thought the locked bootloader could be a problem for this but you've just made a flashable launcher, am I right? And btw I would very much appreciate if you released this.

rimatox said:
Sounds great. Just thought the locked bootloader could be a problem for this but you've just made a flashable launcher, am I right? And btw I would very much appreciate if you released this.
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Sense4 is not a flashable launcher, but the complete rom, since Sense is integrated into all the framework of ICS and android, so you cannot run widgets or apps without having the sense core framework and native libraries associated.
but i will make it a flashable zip through CWM, if decision is to do it.

Sounds like a great idea. Yes, I think this would be highly helpful as then we have a base to work with. How much work in your opinion would it be to get it to work with phone?

Noooooooo, please don't quit with this phone. I am losing my faith that we will ever have anything else than the stock rom

XperiaPlayer said:
Sounds like a great idea. Yes, I think this would be highly helpful as then we have a base to work with. How much work in your opinion would it be to get it to work with phone?
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personally i believe its a though one. functionality in the framework (telephony) needs to be ported into the htc framework, or vice versa if possible.
but the radio someone seems similar , but honestly i am not technical radio expert, but they share the 6260 radio name on htc as well, maybe a nvidia radio compatibility thing.

Its not a case of putting the LG ril files in the HTC framework is it?

Good Job Dexter_nlb!!!!
You bring light in this phone.Never leave the work in this phone please.Thanks!!!
This community is little, and you have experience in roms.

XperiaPlayer said:
Its not a case of putting the LG ril files in the HTC framework is it?
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i was told it was that simple on the GSIII port, which seemed to die, although they claimed to have phone working
but here its not that simple. i try to follow the logs with "logcat -b radio" and you do see its being setup with lge-ril.so , but then telephony framework seems to identify it as cdma and other calls to framework fails.
i believe some lge services are required to utilize the functions fully.

Hmm, I will deffianetly have a look if and when you release it

Well it definitely seems smmother running on O4X thatn it does on the HOX. So dear friend, can you share with us the zip and see what we can do with it?

Maybe kholk could continue this when he unlock the bootloader?
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reas0n said:
Maybe kholk could continue this when he unlock the bootloader?
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unlocking bootloader does not resolve the modem driver needed to be compiled and Integrated without the security checks they put into it, and that the driver needs to handle the modem different from previous models.
but the backup got lost since the device was delivered to another person with the sdcard erased and backup was on it
i do not believe another pc backup exists, sorry.

Dexter_nlb said:
unlocking bootloader does not resolve the modem driver needed to be compiled and Integrated without the security checks they put into it, and that the driver needs to handle the modem different from previous models.
but the backup got lost since the device was delivered to another person with the sdcard erased and backup was on it
i do not believe another pc backup exists, sorry.
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So you left the O4X scene mate? Little as it is?

Feregorn said:
So you left the O4X scene mate? Little as it is?
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yes, that happened already when my GnoteII arrived, i really prefer that one over o4x, coming from HTC flyer with scribe functions as well and the 5.5" display i like soo much now

^I can understand you mate. GNote2 is a great device and right open for experimentation from the get-go...I was considering it but the sheer size of it, is simply beyond my willingness to suffer carrying it in a handbag! I always demand for my devices to fit in my pocket no matter the slimness and that's the final deciding factor for me.

i might get a chance to rebuild my htc build (4.0.4 edition), it seems camera+wifi+bt works , but audio is now an issue.
ill keep this thread updated, if i get more progress. I probably need to return the o4x soon.
and no, HTC JB 4.1.2 is not possible , as we havent got any updated camera,audio,wifi libs to support the changes, so porting is impossible.

That's way better than nothing, mate. Thanks for your efforts, I'm interested in trying it out.
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I want the Moto X, but....

I'm coming from a Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I was going to wait for the Nexus 5--but everything points to it not being available on Verizon. So...
I enjoy ROM hackery and all that. I don't like the idea of safe strapping specifically because I have to lose available data space. Not even that, but I've heard safestrapping in general is tricky. My brother used to have a Bionic. He safestrapped--he said it was awful the hoops and hurdles he had to get through to use a custom ROM. Luckily, I plan on using the Stock software while using Xposed Framework to be able to customize the things I need. I plan on rooting.
However, I'm going to miss some stuff. To my knowledge, you can't have custom kernels on safestrapped devices (feel free to correct me). I like that since the GNexus had custom kernels and tweaks out the wazzoo, I was able to change the gamma values for the screen to make it look even nicer. I like the GNexus screen. However, I went to the Verizon store today and played around with the MotoX--I enjoy the screen, I love the feel of the phone, it looks great--super fast also. I don't know what to do. I'm looking for some opinions, even if they are biased. Maybe that's what I need.
So.... what do?

natezire71 said:
I'm coming from a Verizon Galaxy Nexus. I was going to wait for the Nexus 5--but everything points to it not being available on Verizon. So...
I enjoy ROM hackery and all that. I don't like the idea of safe strapping specifically because I have to lose available data space. Not even that, but I've heard safestrapping in general is tricky. My brother used to have a Bionic. He safestrapped--he said it was awful the hoops and hurdles he had to get through to use a custom ROM. Luckily, I plan on using the Stock software while using Xposed Framework to be able to customize the things I need. I plan on rooting.
However, I'm going to miss some stuff. To my knowledge, you can't have custom kernels on safestrapped devices (feel free to correct me). I like that since the GNexus had custom kernels and tweaks out the wazzoo, I was able to change the gamma values for the screen to make it look even nicer. I like the GNexus screen. However, I went to the Verizon store today and played around with the MotoX--I enjoy the screen, I love the feel of the phone, it looks great--super fast also. I don't know what to do. I'm looking for some opinions, even if they are biased. Maybe that's what I need.
So.... what do?
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If you get the Dev edition you can unlock the boot loader and flash when things become available. If you get the vzw version there is a chance you'll get it before the ota and you can root. If its updated, root isn't available.
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rmead01 said:
If you get the Dev edition you can unlock the boot loader and flash when things become available. If you get the vzw version there is a chance you'll get it before the ota and you can root. If its updated, root isn't available.
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But the dev edition is crazy expensive.

kernels are for the most part a no go, on that note once safestrap gets better it is quite easy to use and looks like there will be decent development soon. it wont be anything like the nexus line but even stock with xposed framework mods you can totally customize an already great phone !

shane1 said:
kernels are for the most part a no go, on that note once safestrap gets better it is quite easy to use and looks like there will be decent development soon. it wont be anything like the nexus line but even stock with xposed framework mods you can totally customize an already great phone !
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Will we ever be able to adjust kernel parameters though? Maybe? If I got a dev edition would kernels be plausible?

you can play with the kernel play with speeds and change governor and shceduler probly more im not sure. anything is plausable on a developer edition as long as someone develops for it.

shane1 said:
you can play with the kernel play with speeds and change governor and shceduler probly more im not sure. anything is plausable on a developer edition as long as someone develops for it.
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But what about the non-dev version? Would we be able to change kernel stuff too? I can't afford the Dev edition unfortunately.

Here my experience.
I came from an sgs3, before that I had the sgs2, HTC vivid and infuse... With each one I was a flashaholic, I enjoyed tweaking with the phones, rooting, flashing custom roms, building my own... Both stock based and cm.
I was a little concerned about the locked bl on the moto x. But, I quickly came to realize that this phone was damn near perfect right out of the box, basically what I have tried to achieve on all my other devices, yet failing to do so. Yes, there are a few things I miss, but it pales in comparison to having a phone that I trust to "just simply work" but it doesn't "just simply work" it "fu**ing works brilliantly"
I can now say that I do not miss flashing Roms and kernels, I don't miss backing up and restoring data through nandroids every other day, I don't miss soft bricks and bootloops, I don't miss flashing cm/aosp and breaking functionality... Simply put, i don't miss feeling like I need to consistently flash to have an enjoyable experience. I have found a new enjoyment... Having a phone that is innovative, reliably and comfortable, that works as intended... The battery life is amazing, I don't think I could live without active notifications now and always listening and the accuracy of voice recognition makes hands free use actually enjoyable and practical, every other past phone just made hands free a headache and stress inducing.
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Sry the first part of that statement was about the consumer edition lol. You can change some stuff with the kernel but I usually don't mess with that to much. The phone is smooth as hell and just needs minor visual tweeks IMO.

theraffman said:
Here my experience.
I came from an sgs3, before that I had the sgs2, HTC vivid and infuse... With each one I was a flashaholic, I enjoyed tweaking with the phones, rooting, flashing custom roms, building my own... Both stock based and cm.
I was a little concerned about the locked bl on the moto x. But, I quickly came to realize that this phone was damn near perfect right out of the box, basically what I have tried to achieve on all my other devices, yet failing to do so. Yes, there are a few things I miss, but it pales in comparison to having a phone that I trust to "just simply work" but it doesn't "just simply work" it "fu**ing works brilliantly"
I can now say that I do not miss flashing Roms and kernels, I don't miss backing up and restoring data through nandroids every other day, I don't miss soft bricks and bootloops, I don't miss flashing cm/aosp and breaking functionality... Simply put, i don't miss feeling like I need to consistently flash to have an enjoyable experience. I have found a new enjoyment... Having a phone that is innovative, reliably and comfortable, that works as intended... The battery life is amazing, I don't think I could live without active notifications now and always listening and the accuracy of voice recognition makes hands free use actually enjoyable and practical, every other past phone just made hands free a headache and stress inducing.
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shane1 said:
Sry the first part of that statement was about the consumer edition lol. You can change some stuff with the kernel but I usually don't mess with that to much. The phone is smooth as hell and just needs minor visual tweeks IMO.
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I figured it was.
That's what I've heard. It sounds incredible. The only thing I'm going to need to change is the Quick Settings. I also really need quick replies from the SMS app--I don't think there is anyway to get those. :|

I was in the same situation and I decided to switch to AT&T for the moto x. If the Nexus 5 is sweet i can just sell the moto x and buy it off contract...
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yes in safestrap..hashcode has kexec tools built in. but the kernel will have to have kexec patches to boot with Safestrap. i know Hashcode is planning on working on that for the consumer version
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What I'd do if I were you is buy a 5s with my upgrade . sell it and get Dev edition
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natezire71 said:
I figured it was.
That's what I've heard. It sounds incredible. The only thing I'm going to need to change is the Quick Settings. I also really need quick replies from the SMS app--I don't think there is anyway to get those. :|
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Slide messaging can do it unrooted
Rooted you can replace stock messaging with cyanogen messaging

sleepyguy007 said:
What I'd do if I were you is buy a 5s with my upgrade . sell it and get Dev edition
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Oh **** that's smart. That's REALLY smart. I was thinking maybe get a G2 and sell it.

tw1tch175 said:
Rooted you can replace stock messaging with cyanogen messaging
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Oh yeah. Duh... Lol.

natezire71 said:
Oh **** that's smart. That's REALLY smart. I was thinking maybe get a G2 and sell it.
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yeah if you are trying to effectively sell your upgrade, its almost always best to get an apple product.
i mean if you got a gold one right now who knows you could probably do pretty well.

sleepyguy007 said:
yeah if you are trying to effectively sell your upgrade, its almost always best to get an apple product.
i mean if you got a gold one right now who knows you could probably do pretty well.
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The thing is, I didn't want to spend $200 or whatever the 5s costs. I wanted to spend $100 on Amazon for the upgrade to the Moto X. However, if I paid $20 more, I could get a G2.

natezire71 said:
The thing is, I didn't want to spend $200 or whatever the 5s costs. I wanted to spend $100 on Amazon for the upgrade to the Moto X. However, if I paid $20 more, I could get a G2.
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valid point.
but i think you'll get more for a iphone.
and i think the market for itis bigger . i mean if the G2 costs $80 less, but someone pays you $100 more for the iphone.. i tend to like doign the iphone route, just because theres so many "THE HOTTEST ANDROID" phone that they drop in price fast. with the iphone if you are slow to sell it, you arent gonna immediately lose value.
if you can upgrade using verizonwireless.com you acn do the VERIZON30 code on say the note 3 and get 30% off. dont know if that works on iphone. and then sell the note 3 possibly is another idea.

sleepyguy007 said:
yeah if you are trying to effectively sell your upgrade, its almost always best to get an apple product.
i mean if you got a gold one right now who knows you could probably do pretty well.
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This and also do everything you can to keep them from even opening the box the phone it in, with the plastic still on it it's worth more

XT1060 and Custom Lollipop ROMs and Motorola Apps

Hey guys,
I installed Nexus Experience ROM on my Verizon Dev Edition and it is based on CM12 AOSP. Is there a way to get Motorola Apps to work with it? I miss touchless control and moto connect primarily. Thanks!

Nope. Only on stock firmware.

crazyxzer0 said:
Hey guys,
I installed Nexus Experience ROM on my Verizon Dev Edition and it is based on CM12 AOSP. Is there a way to get Motorola Apps to work with it? I miss touchless control and moto connect primarily. Thanks!
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no you cannot unfortunately.. i miss them too

Thanks guys for the help.

Asking out of ignorance- is there really any reason to get CM12 over stock+Xposed besides their cyanogenmod account stuff?

domenci said:
Asking out of ignorance- is there really any reason to get CM12 over stock+Xposed besides their cyanogenmod account stuff?
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Mainly CM12 is lollipop while stock + Xposed is kitkat.
But a lot of people just like CM, its light and sleek and has some nice features/options.

scryan said:
Mainly CM12 is lollipop while stock + Xposed is kitkat.
But a lot of people just like CM, its light and sleek and has some nice features/options.
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D'oh I guess I forgot about the whole lollipop of it all! That would certainly be a good reason.
For clarification, which features/options does it have that you can't get with xposed?
I'm just gonna wait for the official release, add Xposed, and freeze unneeded crapola but still interested in keeping up. cheers

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D'oh I guess I forgot about the whole lollipop of it all! That would certainly be a good reason. I'm just gonna wait for the official release, add Xposed, and freeze unneeded crapola. cheers
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As of now, there is no xposed for lollipop. It only runs on Dalvik, not ART and the developer does not know when/if he will make it work with art, or if it even can be made to work the same.
I'm thinking its pretty likely something will happen eventually but it doesn't look like he is even thinking about doing much until development of lollipop slows down as he has said for now its "a bit of a moving target"
So it may be a while/never.

Huh, of this I was not aware. I might hold off to see how this pans out.
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Hey guys my phone is Mortola XT1060
I found some issues working with it one of them is there are no The font that uses in My country included to that, Hence I have to face kind of matters over and over How could I fix it which means how can I add my fonts to my phone

Android 6 ready for prime time?

What is the general consensus? Is it to early to jump to Marshmallow? Is it robust and functional? Do most apps still run? If I'm not happy can I easily revert to LP? Thanks for any advice.

almahix said:
What is the general consensus? Is it to early to jump to Marshmallow? Is it robust and functional? Do most apps still run? If I'm not happy can I easily revert to LP? Thanks for any advice.
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to answer your title.. youre a bit late, it was ready last year :silly:
aaaaannnnnndddd marshmellow rocks

Yep, better late than never... And it's Awesome!

simms22 said:
to answer your title.. youre a bit late, it was ready last year :silly:
aaaaannnnnndddd marshmellow rocks
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I appreciate your enthusiasm, but I was more interested in whether the dev community has had it long enough to customize and enhance it as they typically do. I made the jump to L very early and for a while I was without many of the add-ons that came later. I look forward to M but I don't want the same situation as L. Thanks for your comments.
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almahix said:
I appreciate your enthusiasm, but I was more interested in whether the dev community has had it long enough to customize and enhance it as they typically do. I made the jump to L very early and for a while I was without many of the add-ons that came later. I look forward to M but I don't want the same situation as L. Thanks for your comments.
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That is a completely different set of questions than you asked.
If custom ROMs are important to you, then you probably will want to wait a bit for Marshmallow ROMs to get close to the functionality of Lollipop. They are basically stock at this point. I think the feature port will start happening soon, but I wouldn't be surprised if it would be some time before it gets close to the functionality of Lollipop.
Xposed also doesn't work if that is important to you.

I would wait if I were you. The biggest thing I notice on M is the speed and battery increases. The downside is that there is many many things missing that we all have become accustom to. I mean you cant even get the LED working for notifications unless you use a 3rd party app or a hacked zip! lol You really aren't missing much....the hyperbole around the release is amazing.

I think Marshmallow sucks. Video and audio random freezing, can't root. Honestly I can't see the advantage to upgrading. At least nothing that overcomes these two huge shortcomings.